Arcann runs the Sheev's Sith Gauntlet

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Sinious
Full heal after each round.

Warmup: Rebels Maul
R1: Ventress
R2: Savage
R3: SoD Maul
R4: Count Dooku
R5: TFU Vader
Boss: Knightfall Anakin

Where does he stop?

Ursumeles
Splits at Dooku, or loses barely there.

TenebrousWay
I have Dooku above TFU Vader.

Arcann either stops at Dooku (I agree at a 50/50 with Urs), or stops at Hackakin.

Sinious
I agree that Dooku is a great challenge for Arcann, but I am confident that he wins more than he loses. Ragdolling HoT is more impressive than anything Dooku has done, barring the delusion of him being anywhere near Yoda.

nfactor1995
I have Arcann right around Dooku level. Not sure if he wins a majority, splits, or wins a minority at this point. Leaning towards splitting or a slight majority atm.

TenebrousWay
I've never been that impressed by Arcann, to be honest.

Ursumeles
Well, I'd need to look at the circumstances of the ragdolling. Anyway, I'd say ragdolling Obi-Wan, and the Dreadnought showing, as well as scaling from the likes of Yaddle and Yarael, at least comes close to Arcann's showings.

That being said, as Dooku as of TPM was already -bar Mace and Yoda- the most skilled Jedi in history, and later destroying Ventress, as well as beating Obi-Wan and GG, I'd put him above Arcann in the dueling department, which could be a more decisive advandtadge than Arcann's possible Force Advandtadge.

Sinious

NewGuy01
Probably 4.

TenebrousWay
Unlikely. Deceived Malgus defeated Zallow rather quickly and decisively plus his force signature alone distorted the signature of Zallow plus the dozen Jedi knights that escorted the Jedi Master to meet Malgus. Aryn Leener upon watching the fight in Deceived notes that Malgus completely controlled the fight.

Also, considering Act III HoT needed help to defeat Malgus in the end game, it's pretty difficult to imagine that Act I HoT is more powerful than Deceived Malgus, who by his part, is far above his Return incarnation, who's factually one of the best warriors of the Empire already.

KotET Outlander is factually above Arcann as he managed to tank Vailyn Maelstrom while Arcann was immediately ragdolled by the Force Wave.

Sinious
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Unlikely. Deceived Malgus defeated Zallow rather quickly and decisively plus his force signature alone distorted the signature of Zallow plus the dozen Jedi knights that escorted the Jedi Master to meet Malgus. Aryn Leener upon watching the fight in Deceived notes that Malgus completely controlled the fight. Except Orgus doesn't restrict his comment to Jedi. So, you don't need Zallow-Malgus comparisons. If Orgus saw Malgus, that applies to him as well, which he probably did. Hence the use of the "potentially" in my earlier post.


Which would only prove that KOTET Outlander is a lot more powerful than his KOTFE self. Nothing more.


Hmm, so you're suggesting that FE Malgus >>> Deceived Malgus. Interesting. smile

(I agree that it doesn't make sense, but we don't need Malgus to be included here anyway)

NewGuy01
And TPM Anakin was stronger with the Force than in anyone Qui-Gon Jinn had met in his entire life. That doesn't mean he could lay out Yoda.





Actually, if I recall correctly he killed a number of them, but that's hardly a big deal. The Tusken Raiders also hunted Krayt Dragons regularly, and I don't see anyone hyping up AotC Anakin for slaughtering them.




Yeah, but who is he better than by that point who's worth their salt, exactly?




Pretty sure that has more to do with him being the only Jedi with the experience to deal with Vitiate's mental domination than it does with him being too uber for his fellow Jedi companeros to properly support him. His showings prior to and following his confrontation with the Emperor don't support that interpretation at all.




It doesn't really mean that at all.




The ****?




--overwhelming him with a Force-based attack is super awesomesauce? :P

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
you're a real shitcan

NewGuy01
srry i ruined ur plan to advance the tor flag now that all the smart people r gone

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It's fine since I know if Sinny responds you'll just give up

NewGuy01
prolly

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by Sinious
Except Orgus doesn't restrict his comment to Jedi. So, you don't need Zallow-Malgus comparisons. If Orgus saw Malgus, that applies to him as well, which he probably did. Hence the use of the "potentially" in my earlier post.

I view it more like a question of potential rather than available power. NewGuy explained my sentiment above.



I typed that because your following phrase: "I can see Dooku taking Kotet HoTlander, but not the guy who ragdolled him." doesn't make sense.



I'm not suggesting. He factually is:





False Emperor Malgus >/>>End of Deceived Malgus >> Deceived Malgus

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by NewGuy01
prolly

:iwin:

carthage
Probably Dooku

If he can use his force abiltiies he can probably take Ventress, Maul obviously gets destroyed

MythLord
He ain't getting past Dooku, if he even makes it that far.

Azronger
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Well, I'd need to look at the circumstances of the ragdolling. Anyway, I'd say ragdolling Obi-Wan, and the Dreadnought showing, as well as scaling from the likes of Yaddle and Yarael, at least comes close to Arcann's showings.

That being said, as Dooku as of TPM was already -bar Mace and Yoda- the most skilled Jedi in history, and later destroying Ventress, as well as beating Obi-Wan and GG, I'd put him above Arcann in the dueling department, which could be a more decisive advandtadge than Arcann's possible Force Advandtadge.

If you subscribe to that scaling, then he one-shots like five Arcanns at once lmao.

Sinious

Sinious
Originally posted by NewGuy01
srry i ruined ur plan to advance the tor flag now that all the smart people r gone nah skillz and I do this like once a year cause the SWTOR wanking urge gets too strong after months of suppression. sad

It usually fades within a couple days tho

Sinious
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
I typed that because your following phrase: "I can see Dooku taking Kotet HoTlander, but not the guy who ragdolled him." doesn't make sense. I meant to say KOTFE of course.

UCanShootMyNova
Stops at 1. Lmao.

Rockydonovang
stops hard at warmup

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