Ultron vs. Nam-Ek

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carthage
Vibranium Ultron vs. Kryptonian Beast

Who wins

Psychotron
Well, it took the combined power of IM, Thor, and Vision to hurt Ultron's final form, so him, I guess.

h1a8
Vibranium Ultron is the non-movie version right?
Ultron wouldn't be able to harm Nam at all.
Vibranium never tanked forces of the level of what Nam can generate.
Also
Nam can possibly eventually learn HV and cook Ultron. Vibranium is not immune to heat.

KingD19
Originally posted by h1a8
Vibranium Ultron is the non-movie version right?
Ultron wouldn't be able to harm Nam at all.
Vibranium never tanked forces of the level of what Nam can generate.
Also
Nam can possibly eventually learn HV and cook Ultron. Vibranium is not immune to heat.

No. It's the version that fought all the Avengers at the end. He used the remaining Vibranium to build his most powerful body aside from Vision.

Ultron was punching around Thor, Vision, and Hulk. Ultron took a beating from them as well and was still functioning pretty good.

It's not immune to heat, but it certainly took far more damage than Namek's non-existent heat vision can put out. But yeah he doesn't have HV so that's a no go.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by KingD19
No. It's the version that fought all the Avengers at the end. He used the remaining Vibranium to build his most powerful body aside from Vision.

Ultron was punching around Thor, Vision, and Hulk. Ultron took a beating from them as well and was still functioning pretty good.

It's not immune to heat, but it certainly took far more damage than Namek's non-existent heat vision can put out. But yeah he doesn't have HV so that's a no go.

Well, the phrase used was "vibranium cocktail". But yeah, at one point Ultron took a full on hit from Vision, wielding Mjolnir, which sent him sailing completely away from that area of the battlefield, and wasn't even scratched by it.

And beyond the fact that Nam-Ek never showed heat vision, he never even showed the ability to fight without his helmet. Zod was the only invading Kryptonian who managed to overcome the sensory overload.

KingD19
Yeah he said cocktail, but it was clearly his most powerful form and probably had as much Vibranium as couldn't be stuffed in the triggering mechanism.

h1a8
Originally posted by KingD19
No. It's the version that fought all the Avengers at the end. He used the remaining Vibranium to build his most powerful body aside from Vision.

Ultron was punching around Thor, Vision, and Hulk. Ultron took a beating from them as well and was still functioning pretty good.

It's not immune to heat, but it certainly took far more damage than Namek's non-existent heat vision can put out. But yeah he doesn't have HV so that's a no go. No he didn't. He had 0 vibranium. Who are you trying to fool?

Someone with super strength can punch Thor and Hulk around with a steel sledgehammer. Doesn't make Ultron more durable than steel. What beating did Ultron final form take? It got decimated when they shot energy blasts at it.
Nam is significantly stronger than any of those guys anyway.

Kryptonians eventually would learn to use HV. It's a matter of time. But Nam would just scrap metal Ultron with physical attacks.

h1a8
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, the phrase used was "vibranium cocktail". But yeah, at one point Ultron took a full on hit from Vision, wielding Mjolnir, which sent him sailing completely away from that area of the battlefield, and wasn't even scratched by it.

And beyond the fact that Nam-Ek never showed heat vision, he never even showed the ability to fight without his helmet. Zod was the only invading Kryptonian who managed to overcome the sensory overload.
I don't recall. Care to post the scene?
Vision hitting Ultron with Mjolnir is significantly weaker than the force Nam can hit with. They are not comparable.

Ultron can't harm Nam at all. If Nam's helmet comes off then he won't be koed. It's just a matter of time to get used to it. In the meantime, Ultron would not register at all.

KingD19
Originally posted by h1a8
No he didn't. He had 0 vibranium. Who are you trying to fool?

Someone with super strength can punch Thor and Hulk around with a steel sledgehammer. Doesn't make Ultron more durable than steel. What beating did Ultron final form take? It got decimated when they shot energy blasts at it.
Nam is significantly stronger than any of those guys anyway.

Kryptonians eventually would learn to use HV. It's a matter of time. But Nam would just scrap metal Ultron with physical attacks.


Hahahah seriously? After all this time you still haven't watched the movie? He rips his old body apart with his new one. And is much more powerful. Tony even says, "Have you been juicing? Vibranium cocktail?" to point out how he was bigger, stronger, etc...

Get out of here with that bs man. You're not even good at lying and trolling.

Mjolnir is made of "steel" now? Not forged from the heart of a dying star and made of Uru? And it took Vision, Thor, and Tony pouring all of their energy into a combined attack to finally damage him. And even then he was still operational. Namek has not shown strength feats above Hulk.

Eventually. But not fast enough to learn it before he got killed, so he doesn't have it here.

h1a8
Originally posted by KingD19
Hahahah seriously? After all this time you still haven't watched the movie? He rips his old body apart with his new one. And is much more powerful. Tony even says, "Have you been juicing? Vibranium cocktail?" to point out how he was bigger, stronger, etc...

Get out of here with that bs man. You're not even good at lying and trolling.

Mjolnir is made of "steel" now? Not forged from the heart of a dying star and made of Uru? And it took Vision, Thor, and Tony pouring all of their energy into a combined attack to finally damage him. And even then he was still operational. Namek has not shown strength feats above Hulk.

Eventually. But not fast enough to learn it before he got killed, so he doesn't have it here.

Being bigger has no bearing on vibranium. Tony asking the question doesn't prove it also. There is no proof that Ultron was composed of vibranium.

If a weaker object can knock something around then a more durable object can too. The argument was that Ultron knocked Thor around.

Nam is as strong or stronger than Superman. He was shown physically superior to Clark at times. Superman is significantly stronger than Hulk.

Don't confuse movie Mjolnir with comic version.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by KingD19
Hahahah seriously? After all this time you still haven't watched the movie? He rips his old body apart with his new one. And is much more powerful. Tony even says, "Have you been juicing? Vibranium cocktail?" to point out how he was bigger, stronger, etc...

Yeah, and Tony's suit showed the ability to detect vibranium at other points as well. So, if anyone knows, it's him. And then there is also an interview Chris Hemsworth did with Screen Rant, where he hints at Ultron being made of vibranium (he specifically mentions it by name), when asked about how Ultron could actually hurt Thor in the film. So, it was both inferred in the film and mentioned by a cast member during an interview for the film.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by KingD19
Mjolnir is made of "steel" now? Not forged from the heart of a dying star and made of Uru?

Well, we know for a fact it was explicitly stated to have been forged in the heart of a dying star, onscreen, by Odin, during the first Thor film. But the only time it is mentioned as being made from Uru is during the Thor: The Dark World game, and not sure if info from the MCU-based games are usable in the MvF.

KingD19
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, we know for a fact it was explicitly stated to have been forged in the heart of a dying star, onscreen, by Odin, during the first Thor film. But the only time it is mentioned as being made from Uru is during the Thor: The Dark World game, and not sure if info from the MCU-based games are usable in the MvF.

If cartoons and other things are useable, shouldn't tie-in games part of the movie canon be usable as well? Even if not, name one thing made of regular steel forged from the heart of a dying star. Uru endorsement or not, calling Mjolnir "steel" is downplaying to an insane degree.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by KingD19
If cartoons and other things are useable, shouldn't tie-in games part of the movie canon be usable as well? Even if not, name one thing made of regular steel forged from the heart of a dying star. Uru endorsement or not, calling Mjolnir "steel" is downplaying to an insane degree.

Well, I personally think that they wouldn't have specifically said Uru without a reason, so that is in fact what the hammer is likely made of. However, after the whole thing about the tie-in comics, I am not sure where games fall in terms of usability.

John Murdoch
Ya, final form Ultron was part Vibranium, just not completely Vibranium.

I'll lean towards Nam-Ek: he can put big-time prolonged beating on Ultron, and Ultron shouldn't be capable of putting him down without a mask weakness exploitation.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Vibranium Ultron is the non-movie version right?
Ultron wouldn't be able to harm Nam at all.
Vibranium never tanked forces of the level of what Nam can generate.
Also
Nam can possibly eventually learn HV and cook Ultron. Vibranium is not immune to heat.

It's Ultron's final form, you'd know this if you had watched the movie.
Your opinion is noted
When has Nam generated more force than a charged hammer strike
Pure speculation

Sable
Originally posted by KingD19
No. It's the version that fought all the Avengers at the end. He used the remaining Vibranium to build his most powerful body aside from Vision.

Ultron was punching around Thor, Vision, and Hulk. Ultron took a beating from them as well and was still functioning pretty good.

It's not immune to heat, but it certainly took far more damage than Namek's non-existent heat vision can put out. But yeah he doesn't have HV so that's a no go.

Can you post a clip of him punching Hulk around.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's Ultron's final form, you'd know this if you had watched the movie.
Your opinion is noted
When has Nam generated more force than a charged hammer strike
Pure speculation There's no proof in the movie.
Nam can generate the same forces Superman can.
Ultron melted under heat in the film.
Vibranium has no feats against great heat.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
There's no proof in the movie.
Nam can generate the same forces Superman can.
Ultron melted under heat in the film.
Vibranium has no feats against great heat.

Yes there is, this has already been explained to you.
Your opinion is noted
That didn't answer my question
Nam has no feats of generating "great heat".

KingD19
Tony being able to detect Vibranium + Ultron wanting a Vibranium body + Having a surplus of Vibranium + Tony saying Ultron is made of a Vibranium Cocktail = No proof he's Vibranium.

ANd yeah, until Nam-Ek shows Heat Vision, the only Kryptonians with Heat Vision are Clark and Zod/Doomsday.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes there is, this has already been explained to you.
Your opinion is noted
That didn't answer my question
Nam has no feats of generating "great heat".
No proof was given. No where in the movie did Ultron say he was made of vibranium. Tony speculated and asked, but how can a question be proof?

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
No proof was given. No where in the movie did Ultron say he was made of vibranium. Tony speculated and asked, but how can a question be proof?

Proof was given, this has already been explained to you.

Sable
I cant find a single video of Ultron knocking Hulk around.

KingD19
Originally posted by Sable
I cant find a single video of Ultron knocking Hulk around.

Silent is talking about something else. I was mistaken about Ultron fighting them which I have no problem admitting. Everything else I said is correct though.

Sable
Fair enough

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Proof was given, this has already been explained to you.

The only thing that was given was the words of posters. No clips or videos explaining or showing that Ultron is undoubtedly made of Vibranium.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
The only thing that was given was the words of posters. No clips or videos explaining or showing that Ultron is undoubtedly made of Vibranium.

This has already been explained to you.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
This has already been explained to you.

Spamming the thread with trolling again you are.

Tony asked Ultron (not stated) was he made of a vibranium cocktail.
Ultron didn't answer. This is not proof.

Stating what an actor (not writer) said in an interview IS NOT PROOF.
1. The poster could be lying or misinterpreting things. Post the clip as evidence.
2. Character interviews are inadmissible as evidence.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Spamming the thread with trolling again you are.

Tony asked Ultron (not stated) was he made of a vibranium cocktail.
Ultron didn't answer. This is not proof.

Stating what an actor (not writer) said in an interview IS NOT PROOF.
1. The poster could be lying or misinterpreting things. Post the clip as evidence.
2. Character interviews are inadmissible as evidence.

It's very interesting that you're ignoring the person that actually posted the evidence, is it because you know that he'll destroy you in a debate?

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's very interesting that you're ignoring the person that actually posted the evidence, is it because you know that he'll destroy you in a debate?

Ok so what I stated wasn't what the person you are referring to stated.
Tell who posted the evidence or what page is is located on or just quote them. I must have missed it.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Ok so what I stated wasn't what the person you are referring to stated.
Tell who posted the evidence or what page is is located on or just quote them. I must have missed it.

This thread only has 2 pages, find it yourself.

nfactor1995
Nam-Ek should win after awhile

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