Oan power vs Power Cosmic vs Odinpower

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abhilegend
Rank the following in well, power.

1. Oan power
2. Power Cosmic
3. Odin power

Philosophía
Raw-output depends on the user, so I'm not sure how to rank them besides versatility.

abhilegend
At their best.

Philosophía
Ion > Galactus > Odin

abhilegend
In versatility?

leonidas
the right users can all do essentially the same things. all can control time and space. not sure there is any versatility differences at the highest levels of each. easier to rank them on pure output. /shrug

SithLantern93
Oan power. As seen in Zero Hour and Green Lantern: Willworld, the totality of it allows those who tap on it to create universes.

Photon-2
Blank thread ...

Philosophía
Originally posted by abhilegend
In versatility? I think the use of constructs put green lanterns over heralds in terms of versatility. All of the other feats are interchangeable against one another. Not to mention that they can also tell the ring to do stuff - automatic tracking, defending, attacking etc.

Kind of like John can make the ring attack everybody over the speed of sound, without him having to even think:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/122143/3319654-john+ring+auto+blast.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by abhilegend
At their best. Oan power, then.

Sin I AM
Marvel really hasnt done anything with the PC lately have they? I cant stomach Dawn

zopzop

Board Walker
Any of the emotional entity hosts > Galactus > Odin

vansonbee
Originally posted by Board Walker
Any of the emotional entity hosts > Galactus > Odin I'm more incline to believe the white and black entity can beats Galactus, but not the rest.

Anyways, Oan power is the greatest out of the three and PC > Odin.

Horrificus
High-end Oan-based feats please? Just to make sure i'm up to date with that lore.
Not really seeing the same things u guys r seeing. And also thinking of some PC and Odin feats that can't possibly b getting taken into account, if they r being dismissed so casually.
We ARE talking about high-end feats, correct?
For the Marvel sources, versatility is obviously a big player, but potential raw power r both monstrous.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Horrificus
High-end Oan-based feats please? Just to make sure i'm up to date with that lore.
Not really seeing the same things u guys r seeing. And also thinking of some PC and Odin feats that can't possibly b getting taken into account, if they r being dismissed so casually.
We ARE talking about high-end feats, correct?
For the Marvel sources, versatility is obviously a big player, but potential raw power r both monstrous.
You can go in the below link. It's not complete.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t643993.html

Sin I AM
Originally posted by abhilegend
You can go in the below link. It's not complete.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t643993.html

Props so oan power in entirety is what....universal?

Horrificus
Originally posted by abhilegend
You can go in the below link. It's not complete.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t643993.html thanks.
Checking it out.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Props so oan power in entirety is what....universal?
Yeah, it is depicted as universal consistently.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it is depicted as universal consistently.

Thats what i gathered just double checking...great thread abhi, didnt think you had it in you. Makes me curious how they stack against other power sources particularly magic

DarkSaint85
Didn't the Oans fear magic? Hence the Starheart?

abhilegend
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Thats what i gathered just double checking...great thread abhi, didnt think you had it in you. Makes me curious how they stack against other power sources particularly magic
The guardians waged war on magic and banished most of magic eons ago.

And I made the thread to dispel the notion that Guardians are somehow weak despite decades of history saying otherwise. Honestly, their showings makes characters like Odin and Galactus look weak.

abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't the Oans fear magic? Hence the Starheart?
Fear? No. They banished the magic for an orderly universe.

abhilegend
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abhilegend
Here is another comparison. King Thor tries to resurrect a dead girl and fails to bring her soul back.

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Final Night Parallax (Explicitly weaker than a guardian) bring Ollie back to life and only resurrected without his soul as per his request.

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Ganthet resurrected Hal after his soul is called to heaven.

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abhilegend
Bump

gauntlet o doom
Originally posted by vansonbee
I'm more incline to believe the white and black entity can beats Galactus, but not the rest.

Anyways, Oan power is the greatest out of the three and PC > Odin.

Only Galactus uses the power cosmic?

Senor Cage
Oan force wins.

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abhilegend

Damborgson
That would be the only part of the retort you pick on.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Damborgson
That would be the only part of the retort you pick on.
That was my first post.

Also Thor's blood making Earth fertile again doesn't means he can resurrect dead humans outright.

One Big Mob

quanchi112

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Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where else has Odin resurrected a human?

Lol, what an idiotic clown. I hope everyone reads this thread to point and laugh at the retard.

Odin, as you KNOW, very-well, has done plenty of things similar to what you are asking. Here Odin (An AVATAR/M-BODY of his no less) resurrects all of Paris casually:
https://i.postimg.cc/HJ4MxZwJ/RCO007-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/BLm15jw4/RCO008-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/WtfkhJk7/RCO010-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G8LysFKX/RCO011-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G4v877SM/RCO016-w-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ykM3T4ng/RCO017-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/sG1GT3tS/RCO018-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7bLzHNf6/RCO019-w-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1fnN6501/RCO020-1462334997.jpg

*sigh*

Anyways, you're a clown. You pick the weakest, most inexperienced OF wielder, who specifically was mentally limiting himself, to cherry-pick a comparison.

I could fill a dozen pages using your method of the Guardian's utterly and completely failing to do something Odin would casually accomplish under particular writers.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, what an idiotic clown. I hope everyone reads this thread to point and laugh at the retard.

Odin, as you KNOW, very-well, has restored entire civilizations. Here Odin resurrects all of Paris casually:
https://i.postimg.cc/HJ4MxZwJ/RCO007-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/BLm15jw4/RCO008-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/WtfkhJk7/RCO010-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G8LysFKX/RCO011-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G4v877SM/RCO016-w-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ykM3T4ng/RCO017-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/sG1GT3tS/RCO018-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7bLzHNf6/RCO019-w-1462334997.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1fnN6501/RCO020-1462334997.jpg

That's not resurrecting people of Paris. Grey Gorgoyle only transmutes people in stone, they aren't actually dead.

That was after he had the pep talk from Odin and hadn't had his mental blocks.

So can I for Odin and inverse them for Guardians.

abhilegend
Anyway cute feat. Guardians have done better.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Guardians battle and stalemate Nekron, stop galaxies from destruction, defeat Krona after Nekron is distracted by Hal, seal the rift between universes and return the whole universe to its original state when it was near destruction. Beastly feats.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not resurrecting people of Paris. Grey Gorgoyle only transmutes people in stone, they aren't actually dead.

I understand ignorance, but I know you've read Fear Itself, including the relevant Grey Gargoyle issues, which is why I'll just keep pointing and laughing at the retard:
https://i.postimg.cc/bStGbmXf/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/NL92WjKC/RCO012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/dLGkVNm8/RCO015.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JtfHmCJr/RCO016.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/NyCLz3Bw/RCO017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/CZxzJhyN/RCO018.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mPRcz38K/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/v4z4W1KT/RCO020.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/R63q5gZJ/RCO021.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JD901js6/RCO022.jpg

Grey Gargoyle's powers aside from being different and turning people/objects/animals into actual stone, instead of a temporarily transmutation as the Worthy, literally shattered, and stacked their corpses multi-stories high.

Invincible Iron Man #504 for those who are interested.

But ya, the millions of people turned into jigsaw pieces, and Iron Man having PTSD and pointing out that the Grey Gargoyle committed the worst War Crime in human history was because no one died.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I understand ignorance, but I know you've read Fear Itself, including the relevant Grey Gargoyle issues, which is why I'll just keep pointing and laughing at the retard:
https://i.postimg.cc/bStGbmXf/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/NL92WjKC/RCO012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/dLGkVNm8/RCO015.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JtfHmCJr/RCO016.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/NyCLz3Bw/RCO017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/CZxzJhyN/RCO018.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mPRcz38K/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/v4z4W1KT/RCO020.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/R63q5gZJ/RCO021.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JD901js6/RCO022.jpg

Grey Gargoyle's powers aside from being different and turning people/objects/animals into actual stone, instead of a temporarily transmutation as the Worthy, literally shattered, and stacked their corpses multi-stories high.

Invincible Iron Man #504 for those who are interested.

But ya, the millions of people turned into jigsaw pieces, and Iron Man having PTSD and pointing out that the Grey Gargoyle committed the worst War Crime in human history was because no one died.
Hey numbnuts, the worthy grey gargoyle could turn his victims to stone permanently but it didn't kill them.

Thor girl was shattered just like that by Gargoyle and she was still alive.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-1998/Issue-46?id=8297

Your desperation for a scrap of feat for Odin is amusing.

DarkSaint85
Tbf, how do you guys differentiate between resurrecting someone and transmuting someone,? They're both uber.

Odin did resurrect GR Frank...

abhilegend
Yeah, that's a good feat.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey numbnuts, the worthy grey gargoyle could turn his victims to stone permanently but it didn't kill them.

Thor girl was shattered just like that by Gargoyle and she was still alive.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-1998/Issue-46?id=8297

Your desperation for a scrap of feat for Odin is amusing.

Just so everyone understands what is happening here, Tarene, the Designate herself, was turned to Stone by the regular Grey Gargoyle, and shattered. She was assumed dead, and Desak (Her creation), senses but smallest spark of life inside of her:
https://i.postimg.cc/FY8zj7XX/RCO008.jpg

Thor #48.

This is what Abhiligend is using as evidence that a mortal turned into stone, then shattered into pieces is alive. laughing out loud

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf, how do you guys differentiate between resurrecting someone and transmuting someone,? They're both uber.

Odin did resurrect GR Frank...

Odin simultaneously restored to life and transmuted back to human, the residents of Paris.

Rage.Of.Olympus
And just because, I want everyone to laugh at how utterly retarded Abhiligend is:
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey numbnuts, the worthy grey gargoyle could turn his victims to stone permanently but it didn't kill them.
https://i.postimg.cc/dkT88zx4/RCO005.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HjXwj15L/RCO006.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/q6V2Q1f0/RCO007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/tn3WcFy6/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/nCxvDSYG/RCO009.jpg

Invincible Iron-Man #505.

Originally posted by abhilegend
but it didn't kill them.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Grey Gorgoyle only transmutes people in stone, they aren't actually dead

"They're all dead. I'm floating on a sea of the dead."

"It's not a rock. Not a stone. It's a piece of somebody."

Keep in mind, Abhiligend has access to these comics and has read these issues.

quanchi112
laughing out loud

celeyhyga17
He restored the wrecked worlds after his fight with Infinity. That was like a good portion of the universe. It's heavily implied that lives that were lost were restored.

Senor Cage
Wasn't parallax universal already?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Wasn't parallax universal already? laughing out loud

Senor Cage
Universe>>Planets, though. wink

quanchi112
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Universe>>Planets, though. wink Horrendous logic. Cringeworthy.

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Senor Cage
Darky is a multiversal god. This has been going around for a while now.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Darky is a multiversal god. This has been going around for a while now.
Gotta agree with this

Nicely said

Senor Cage
Hell, even in Orlando's run on WW, Darkseid was pointed out that he exists across the Multiverse. This was also pointed out in Grant Morrison's Multiversity.

http://i.imgur.com/2sdrOsR.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just so everyone understands what is happening here, Tarene, the Designate herself, was turned to Stone by the regular Grey Gargoyle, and shattered. She was assumed dead, and Desak (Her creation), senses but smallest spark of life inside of her:
https://i.postimg.cc/FY8zj7XX/RCO008.jpg

Thor #48.

This is what Abhiligend is using as evidence that a mortal turned into stone, then shattered into pieces is alive. laughing out loud
She was alive clown. Desak was talking about future designate.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ytle2AVTubE/VntX4h07xHI/AAAAAAAAirA/nsIVgJI-Lkk/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg

It wasn't designate who was turned into stone anyway, Thor Girl had lost all that power so Desak couldn't sense that anyway.

Her true form was alive after all.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GqUn_trNGG4/VntYCiwWyeI/AAAAAAAAiug/RFM6Se1YKJ4/s1600-Ic42/RCO016.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CaapryxDGYw/VntYCn5rR0I/AAAAAAAAiug/m7gtVfITVRU/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg

Learn how to read.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And just because, I want everyone to laugh at how utterly retarded Abhiligend is:

https://i.postimg.cc/dkT88zx4/RCO005.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HjXwj15L/RCO006.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/q6V2Q1f0/RCO007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/tn3WcFy6/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/nCxvDSYG/RCO009.jpg

Invincible Iron-Man #505.




"They're all dead. I'm floating on a sea of the dead."

"It's not a rock. Not a stone. It's a piece of somebody."

Keep in mind, Abhiligend has access to these comics and has read these issues.
laughing out loud

That's your proof? Hey mongoloid, Tony weeping about the people turned into stone doesn't changes what Gorgoyle actually does.

The people got turned to stone, they didn't actually die.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He restored the wrecked worlds after his fight with Infinity. That was like a good portion of the universe. It's heavily implied that lives that were lost were restored.
The worlds were enveloped in shadow. Nothing more.

abhilegend

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
She was alive clown. Desak was talking about future designate.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ytle2AVTubE/VntX4h07xHI/AAAAAAAAirA/nsIVgJI-Lkk/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg

It wasn't designate who was turned into stone anyway, Thor Girl had lost all that power so Desak couldn't sense that anyway.

Her true form was alive after all.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GqUn_trNGG4/VntYCiwWyeI/AAAAAAAAiug/RFM6Se1YKJ4/s1600-Ic42/RCO016.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CaapryxDGYw/VntYCn5rR0I/AAAAAAAAiug/m7gtVfITVRU/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg

Learn how to read.

You....just made that up. He was referring to the faint echo of her in Tarene...Regardless. I was saving this scan until you REALLY REALLY committed to this idiotic line of thinking.

Grey Gargoyle on Tarene's state:
https://i.postimg.cc/w7JF8SSV/RCO004.jpg

Grey Gargoyle: "I killed her already. I smashed her into smithereens."

Thor #48.

mhmm

You're posting scans out of a comic you aren't even fully reading.

Originally posted by abhilegend


That's your proof? Hey mongoloid, Tony weeping about the people turned into stone doesn't changes what Gorgoyle actually does.

The people got turned to stone, they didn't actually die.

Yes, dialogue, and character assessments are my proof. I know, weird.

Matt Fraction dedicated Tony's entire motivation throughout Fear Itself in reflection of Grey Gargoyle's atrocity...and no one was really dead? The people that were shattered into millions of pieces didn't die....because something-something Tarene? Lol.

Anyways, I posted the issue numbers so that anybody can read the story-line. To summarize: The Worthy Grey Gargoyle killed all of Paris, and Odin simultaneously restored the city, it's inhabits, while transmuting them to human.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You....just made that up. He was referring to the faint echo of her in Tarene...Regardless. I was saving this scan until you REALLY REALLY committed to this idiotic line of thinking.

Grey Gargoyle on Tarene's state:
https://i.postimg.cc/w7JF8SSV/RCO004.jpg

Grey Gargoyle: "I killed her already. I smashed her into smithereens."

Thor #48.

mhmm

Haha, seriously? Until the characters are reverted back to human form, they are alive under Gorgoyle's touch.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xojSVdSMby0/WVB4CEZekLI/AAAAAAAAHEs/YbkHVfIDSg85Y9P3m5kP4T-mHa7mHx0_gCHMYCw/s1600/RCO028.jpg

So until Thor Girl was in stone form, she wouldn't be dead. That's why Amora's mirror made her whole and not resurrected her.

And you can't understand those even after reading them. Surprise, surprise.

They were transformed into stone permanently. That's as good as being dead, but they weren't actually literally dead.

How hard is that for you to understand?

Heh, literally scrapping the bottom of the barrel for feats here.

You're literally like Thor now.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
. They were transformed into stone permanently. That's as good as being dead, but they weren't actually literally dead.

So....Odin resurrected an entire city full of people that are "as good as dead" iyo, were said to be dead by Tony Stark and the writer Matt Fraction btw...but they're not actually dead?

What a weird hill you've decided to die on.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, seriously? Until the characters are reverted back to human form, they are alive under Gorgoyle's touch.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xojSVdSMby0/WVB4CEZekLI/AAAAAAAAHEs/YbkHVfIDSg85Y9P3m5kP4T-mHa7mHx0_gCHMYCw/s1600/RCO028.jpg



And just to clarify, I've posted numerous scans of people transformed by Grey Gargoyle's powers being clarified as killed, including the Grey Gargoyle himself in a comic you referenced, and you hit me with a handbook scan?

laughing out loud Bro, you're getting desperate.

https://i.postimg.cc/w7JF8SSV/RCO004.jpg

Grey Gargoyle: "I killed her already. I smashed her into smithereens."

-Abhilgend 2018: Grey Gargoyle doesn't know how his powers work. No one does including Iron Man, Odin, or the writer Matt Fraction.

Btw, in the bio, it talks about his touch being a temporary transformation. Not his touch, and THEN being shattered into a million pieces. I was going to post more scans, but this really side-tracked the discussion....

DarkSaint85
Plus, the handbook isn't for Worthy Gargoyle, right?

I can't use Juggernaut entries for Kuurth......

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abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So....Odin resurrected an entire city full of people that are "as good as dead" iyo, were said to be dead by Tony Stark and the writer Matt Fraction btw...but they're not actually dead?

What a weird hill you've decided to die on.
Meh, it's a feat comparable to what Highfather did years back. Instead of stone, he reverted a city of people turned to animals.

https://s6.postimg.cc/maoweynht/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.20.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/e3wwndxf5/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.21.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/j1ah8hze9/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.22.jpg

Far complex than what Odin did.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And just to clarify, I've posted numerous scans of people transformed by Grey Gargoyle's powers being clarified as killed, including the Grey Gargoyle himself in a comic you referenced, and you hit me with a handbook scan?

laughing out loud Bro, you're getting desperate.

https://i.postimg.cc/w7JF8SSV/RCO004.jpg

Grey Gargoyle: "I killed her already. I smashed her into smithereens."

-Abhilgend 2018: Grey Gargoyle doesn't know how his powers work. No one does including Iron Man, Odin, or the writer Matt Fraction.

Btw, in the bio, it talks about his touch being a temporary transformation. Not his touch, and THEN being shattered into a million pieces. I was going to post more scans, but this really side-tracked the discussion....
So, Amora's mirror which turns people to their true forms actually resurrected Thor Girl? Is that what you're going with now?

Idiot.

abhilegend

DarkSaint85
Living stone or dead stone?

leonidas
i've missed abhi. i feel rage wasn't complete while abhi was away.

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celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
The worlds were enveloped in shadow. Nothing more.
facepalm

SquallX

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abhilegend
Bump

Stoic
I find myself agreeing with both of your perspectives.

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