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Yog Sothoth is in True Form

Who wins ?

Primal Monitor stomps the entire Lovecraft mythos. Spite thread.

Well I mean, Mandrakk falling into the Overvoid caused his entire story/concept/existence to be erased. Not sure how Yog can possibly win.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well I mean, Mandrakk falling into the Overvoid caused his entire story/concept/existence to be erased. Not sure how Yog can possibly win.

Yog is responsible for maintaining and organizing Lovecraft Omniverse. Because Azathoth is constantly sleeping, the whole mission and concept are gathering at Yog .

Can win with True Form .

Except...that's not true. At all. Prove that Yog maintains the concepts and organization of the Lovecraft Multiverse. Then prove how that puts Yog above the Overvoid.

Probably primal monitor . Great Darkness / Eternal return aka Great Evil Beast is some what a dark mirror to PM concept and he is said to predates all of infinite creations in the void existing beyond the concept of hypertime . PM should be stronger then him considering the fact morrison treats it as seperate entity

Yog Is more like an observer, no? Everything is availble for him to witness and grant witness of everything to lower beings.
I dont remember him having an active part in anything unless being summoned. And then, except for the case of the Whateley's, doesnt he offer knowledge and sight?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yog Is more like an observer, no? Everything is availble for him to witness and grant witness of everything to lower beings.
I dont remember him having an active part in anything unless being summoned. And then, except for the case of the Whateley's, doesnt he offer knowledge and sight?

Pretty much but due the scope of his existence u have tards like in vswiki vastly exagerrating his power/abilities in matchups

Vsbattles has Primal Monitor as a mere 1-A, while Lovecrafts astatoth whatever is apex tier 0.

Pretty much the same thing, but 1-A means there's a slight flaw/weakness while tier 0 is 100% invincible.

The logic for this ratings gap? The Primal Monitor didn't seem fully aware of the DCU Multiverse within it, so that counts as a weakness.

Uhh, Lovecrafts ultimate god is dreaming.. Everything just happens to spring from him, and to a point his dream self may have some awareness, but how is that really any different then the Primal Monitor literally embodying EVERYTHING?

It's just splittint hairs, they're BOTH the be all, end all of everything. Supreme beings are just an extension of them. Nothing can exist without them.

Vs battle is a shitty site that wanks anime characters above most of the comic characters with their bullshit scaling

Originally posted by cdtm
Vsbattles has Primal Monitor as a mere 1-A, while Lovecrafts astatoth whatever is apex tier 0.

Pretty much the same thing, but 1-A means there's a slight flaw/weakness while tier 0 is 100% invincible.

The logic for this ratings gap? The Primal Monitor didn't seem fully aware of the DCU Multiverse within it, so that counts as a weakness.

Uhh, Lovecrafts ultimate god is dreaming.. Everything just happens to spring from him, and to a point his dream self may have some awareness, but how is that really any different then the Primal Monitor literally embodying EVERYTHING?

It's just splittint hairs, they're BOTH the be all, end all of everything. Supreme beings are just an extension of them. Nothing can exist without them.

Methinks , Primal Monitor is mindless . Therefore he is not true op .

Originally posted by Photon-2
Methinks , Primal Monitor is mindless . Therefore he is not true op .

It did notice the aberations inside it, and sent probes to investigate, so it's not totally mindless.

Originally posted by Obsidian1
Vs battle is a shitty site that wanks anime characters above most of the comic characters with their bullshit scaling

That too.

They're the polar opposite of CBR. Instead of claiming Lady Shiva gets blitzed by Cassandra Cain because lack of feats, they'll say Goku is as fast as Superman despite lack of feats according to power scaling.

Originally posted by cdtm
It did notice the aberations inside it, and sent probes to investigate, so it's not totally mindless.

Yes, but his intelligence is still low.

Originally posted by cdtm
That too.

They're the polar opposite of CBR. Instead of claiming Lady Shiva gets blitzed by Cassandra Cain because lack of feats, they'll say Goku is as fast as Superman despite lack of feats according to power scaling.

There are few errors. A reliable site. (Relatively)

So did the Hulk. Doesn't mean he necessarily loses to Tho...oh yeah.

Originally posted by Photon-2
There are few errors. A reliable site. (Relatively)

As an archiving site, it's fine.

It's their method for board fights I disagree with (Which is definately more biased then CBR's method, as a high end feat war is a universal standard, while a "True averages" method would logically penalize decades running source material under many, many different authors. No question their style penalizes the crap out of "flagship title" comic books.)

In the case of Superman, someone posted a total of 24 universal grade feats for Post Crisis Superman. 24. And they dismissed them.

Of COURSE that won't be the vast majority of a multi decade old franchise.. That's simply not how comics run.

Originally posted by cdtm
As an archiving site, it's fine.

It's their method for board fights I disagree with (Which is definately more biased then CBR's method, as a high end feat war is a universal standard, while a "True averages" method would logically penalize decades running source material under many, many different authors. No question their style penalizes the crap out of "flagship title" comic books.)

In the case of Superman, someone posted a total of 24 universal grade feats for Post Crisis Superman. 24. And they dismissed them.

Of COURSE that won't be the vast majority of a multi decade old franchise.. That's simply not how comics run.

Post Crisis Supes and 24 universal grade feats ? What ?

Pre Crisis Supes even not completely universal ...

Maybe according to the wiki. A lot happens on the forums that never makes wiki's.

They rated a random anime character as nigh omniscient but still rated her as tier 0 so how is she considered as being omnipotent while being nigh omniscience .

Originally posted by cdtm
Maybe according to the wiki. A lot happens on the forums that never makes wiki's.

Also vs battles on the characters of the anime are a little inconsistent. For example, "Law of Identity" is omnipotent, although it is not entirely Omniscience.

http://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_(Outlier_Edition)

Wow.. They actually made a joke wiki for Supermans more "out there" feats.

Now think about it.. They accept Super Prime hurting Mxy, and reference it a bunch on other wiki's, yet alllll of these belong on a joke wiki.

Tastes salty...

vs wiki is terrible, yeah. It has The Glory at "possibly High 1-B." Despicable.

Some of their scans in that joke-Superman wiki link to Abhi's and Philo's photobucket.