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Who wins

She obviously can't replicate Thor's tactic, but I still think she'd win.

Diana pretty easily

The Destroyer was weak offensively

Originally posted by carthage
Diana pretty easily

The Destroyer was weak offensively

The Destroyer disintegrated Frost Giants, but thanks for proving your massive bias.

Wonder Woman, I guess. The Destroyer didn't have any really impressive feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Destroyer disintegrated Frost Giants, but thanks for proving your massive bias.

Featless frost giants.

Frost Giants >>> Doomsday/Ares

If you think otherwise you're a DC fanboy

Lol

Originally posted by carthage
Frost Giants >>> Doomsday/Ares

If you think otherwise you're a DC fanboy

Strawman. nice try though, at least you got TI's sock account to laugh.

What feats do those Frost Giants have, fee fee?

Wondy

Originally posted by Silent Master
Strawman. nice try though, at least you got TI's sock account to laugh. It's not really a strawman when the Frost Giants would have to be somewhat comparable to what Diana has dealt with to even warrant their mention. If they are so far below what she's dealt with, why did you bring them up?

You should give this one up. You just look really stupid.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not really a strawman when the Frost Giants would have to be somewhat comparable to what Diana has dealt with to even warrant their mention. If they are so far below what she's dealt with, why did you bring them up?

You should give this one up. You just look really stupid.

I already said that WW wins, I brought the Frost Giants up to counter the idea that the Destroyer was weak offensively.

Originally posted by NemeBro


You should give this one up. You just look really stupid.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I already said that WW wins, I brought the Frost Giants up to counter the idea that the Destroyer was weak offensively. It is weak offensively, compared to Diana and the foes she's fought. Diana slashing something with her sword by feats is far more impressive than anything the Destroyer has shown, based on her cutting Doomsday's arm off. It is similarly below Ares and Doomsday.

So what exactly are you comparing it to? Normal unarmed human beings? mmm

I don't think anyone (or more importantly, carthage) would dispute that, if that is what you are comparing its offensive output to. "Weak" is a subjective term, inherently relative to a baseline. Using Diana and friends as the baseline, the Destroyer's offensive power is certainly weak. Using a human being, it's not, but no one in this thread would do that. That would be dumb.

So what were you using as your arbitrary baseline in an attempt to #gottem carthage?

Bunch of points here:

1. Diana did not take on Doomsday alone. Did not defeat him on her own. To be honest, they probably wouldn't have defeated Doomsday had it not been for the kryptonite spear.

2. Diana is supposedly built specifically to kill Ares. I don't know exactly what that entails, but we can't assume she's as effective against other superpowers as she was against Ares.

3. She struggled against Ares.


In comparison:

4. Frost Giants are roughly as tough as Asgardians, maybe more. This is considering that Loki, a frost giant runt, has never been discovered to be anything more than Asgardian and has numerous durability feats like taking gunshots to the face and others.

5. The Destroyer disintegrated frost giants with absolute ease.




Now I'm not saying the Destroyer armor wins, but disintegrating those Frost giants shouldn't be something that's to be dismissed lightly. Destroyer definitely has more offensive output than Diana. What he lacks is feats, which is why it's hard to say if he can win this match or not.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It is weak offensively, compared to Diana and the foes she's fought. Diana slashing something with her sword by feats is far more impressive than anything the Destroyer has shown, based on her cutting Doomsday's arm off. It is similarly below Ares and Doomsday.

So what exactly are you comparing it to? Normal unarmed human beings? mmm

I don't think anyone (or more importantly, carthage) would dispute that, if that is what you are comparing its offensive output to. "Weak" is a subjective term, inherently relative to a baseline. Using Diana and friends as the baseline, the Destroyer's offensive power is certainly weak. Using a human being, it's not, but no one in this thread would do that. That would be dumb.

So what were you using as your arbitrary baseline in an attempt to #gottem carthage?

He didn't say anything about "in comparison" in the post I responded to. Also, A nuke might be weak compared to a supernova, but only a biased moron would call a nuke weak.

Who wins?

Wonderwoman wins. Good thing I can say my "W's".

Unless Diana can disintegrate the Destroyer like Thor did (doubtful) then I don't see how she'd win.

By cutting his head off

Diana doesn't have the offensive output of Thor. She's faster, more agile, seemingly stronger... but she doesn't have his offensive output. How is she supposed to destroy the destroyer? By stabbing it to death?

Cutting his head off.

point can be made that she could at the very least deflect Destroyers blasts with her bracers. She absorbed Ares' output which is similar to Thors but that may have been specific to Ares so its hard to say if she could absorb and utilize its energy output.

Diana loses

Thing is, I can see Diana running around Destroyer being unhittable, all the while giving the Destroyer hell. But in the end, I can't see how Diana takes out the Destroyer.

The Destroyer seems invulnerable to physical attacks, which leaves Diana's bracelet AOE... which I'm not sure packs enough punch to take out the Destroyer.

Diana could possibly deflect the beam back at Destroyer.
Or was it also the impact from falling that did Destroyer in?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thing is, I can see Diana running around Destroyer being unhittable, all the while giving the Destroyer hell. But in the end, I can't see how Diana takes out the Destroyer.

The Destroyer seems invulnerable to physical attacks, which leaves Diana's bracelet AOE... which I'm not sure packs enough punch to take out the Destroyer.

It was temporarily shut down by physical attacks. Its like you lie on purpose.

Originally posted by FrothByte
How is she supposed to destroy the destroyer? By stabbing it to death?

Why not? Does the Destroyer have any durability feats? Remember that Diana's sword was able to cut DD even when a nuke couldn't hurt him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Diana could possibly deflect the beam back at Destroyer.
Or was it also the impact from falling that did Destroyer in?

She has no way of blocking his visor like Thor did with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Silent Master
She has no way of blocking his visor like Thor did with Mjolnir.

You mean deflecting it back at Destroyer? She can definitely block it though.
Deflection is iffy. The only evidence is her fight with Ares. Maybe she can absorb it and then reflect it back.

Originally posted by h1a8
You mean deflecting it back at Destroyer? She can definitely block it though.
Deflection is iffy. The only evidence is her fight with Ares. Maybe she can absorb it and then reflect it back.

No, I mean he basically put Mjolnir inside the Destroyer's open visor, WW can't do that with her bracers.

Yes she can. If a hammer fit. So will her arms.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Why not? Does the Destroyer have any durability feats? Remember that Diana's sword was able to cut DD even when a nuke couldn't hurt him.

And this is what I was saying, the Destroyer is disadvantaged because of lack of feats. But we do know that Sif and the Warriors 3 seemed at a loss of how to go about defeating it, and so far none of the physical attacks were able to take out the Destroyer.

Maybe Diana can cut it's head off, but it also might just rearrange its body around the blow if it lodges in it's neck. Or it might continue functioning even without a head.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I mean he basically put Mjolnir inside the Destroyer's open visor, WW can't do that with her bracers.

Why not?

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I mean he basically put Mjolnir inside the Destroyer's open visor, WW can't do that with her bracers. He didn't necessarily put it in his visor. We can't tell fully. He rather blocked the opening of the visor with Mjolnir so that the beam can be deflected back inside. It was Destroyer's beam that damaged it, not Mjolnir.

If WW can absorb the beams like she absorbed Ares energy attack then she can unleash it back within the opening of visor from a small distance away.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And this is what I was saying, the Destroyer is disadvantaged because of lack of feats. But we do know that Sif and the Warriors 3 seemed at a loss of how to go about defeating it, and so far none of the physical attacks were able to take out the Destroyer.

Maybe Diana can cut it's head off, but it also might just rearrange its body around the blow if it lodges in it's neck. Or it might continue functioning even without a head.

Wonder Woman is >>>>>>>> Sif and the Warriors Three, though I remember that she did manage to impale it with her spear, which took the armor out for a few seconds.

Or she could just chop it to pieces. Or use the lasso on it. If it held DD it can hold the Destroyer.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Wonder Woman is >>>>>>>> Sif and the Warriors Three, though I remember that she did manage to impale it with her spear, which took the armor out for a few seconds.

Or she could just chop it to pieces. Or use the lasso on it. If it held DD it can hold the Destroyer.


I wouldn't say Wonder Woman is that far above them. She's way faster yes, but Asgardians are more durable than her and their strength is not really that far off. Asgardian steel and weaponry is also nothing to be scoffed at and we can assume that the Destroyer is at least as durable as the average Asgardian sword. After all, why would Odin have made their ultimate weapon with weaker material than their average material?

And in the end, we really don't have any proof that Diana's sword can cut through Asgardian weaponry, which means we have no proof that she can cut through the Destroyer. And even if she does cut through it, then what? It doesn't have vital organs that she can injure. It can't bleed out. It doesn't feel pain. It doesn't have internal mechanical parts that she can destroy. It doesn't have a power source that she can incapacitate.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Why not? Does the Destroyer have any durability feats? Remember that Diana's sword was able to cut DD even when a nuke couldn't hurt him.

She could prob cut it, but it's a self repairing construct that feels no pain. Cutting it won't get her anywhere.

Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't necessarily put it in his visor. We can't tell fully. He rather blocked the opening of the visor with Mjolnir so that the beam can be deflected back inside. It was Destroyer's beam that damaged it, not Mjolnir.

If WW can absorb the beams like she absorbed Ares energy attack then she can unleash it back within the opening of visor from a small distance away.

For crying out loud xfBsH24DTaY

WW has no way to replicate this tactic.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Bunch of points here:

1. Diana did not take on Doomsday alone. Did not defeat him on her own. To be honest, they probably wouldn't have defeated Doomsday had it not been for the kryptonite spear.



What a load, Thor would have never defeated Mal without his girlfriend, see how that works?

Doomsday took a nuke, and she cut off his arm. She also somehow blocked his wide spreading heat vision with her bracers, then redirected it back at him. Not sure if she can beat the destroyer.

She cuts his head off. Or shoves her arms up his ahole.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
She could prob cut it, but it's a self repairing construct that feels no pain. Cutting it won't get her anywhere.

It sure repaired itself when Thor kicked its ass.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I wouldn't say Wonder Woman is that far above them. She's way faster yes, but Asgardians are more durable than her and their strength is not really that far off. Asgardian steel and weaponry is also nothing to be scoffed at and we can assume that the Destroyer is at least as durable as the average Asgardian sword. After all, why would Odin have made their ultimate weapon with weaker material than their average material?

And in the end, we really don't have any proof that Diana's sword can cut through Asgardian weaponry, which means we have no proof that she can cut through the Destroyer. And even if she does cut through it, then what? It doesn't have vital organs that she can injure. It can't bleed out. It doesn't feel pain. It doesn't have internal mechanical parts that she can destroy. It doesn't have a power source that she can incapacitate.

Based on what are they more durable? Diana took hits from DD. If Sif or any of the warriors got hit by Doomsday they'd get pasted. Now, I know you're gonna say they're bullet proof and that Wonder Woman had to block bullets, but she's taken far worse attacks and we've never seen what actually happens if she gets shot.

Her sword cut a a far more durable opponent (Doomsday) and Sif was able to damage the armor. She can just cut it to shreds. And what happens if Diana uses the lasso?

Originally posted by Psychotron
It sure repaired itself when Thor kicked its ass.



Based on what are they more durable? Diana took hits from DD. If Sif or any of the warriors got hit by Doomsday they'd get pasted. Now, I know you're gonna say they're bullet proof and that Wonder Woman had to block bullets, but she's taken far worse attacks and we've never seen what actually happens if she gets shot.

Her sword cut a a far more durable opponent (Doomsday) and Sif was able to damage the armor. She can just cut it to shreds. And what happens if Diana uses the lasso?

Dude, she got cut during a scuffle with WW1 soldiers. Asgardians have taken on bullets and tactical knives without a scratch.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude, she got cut during a scuffle with WW1 soldiers. Asgardians have taken on bullets and tactical knives without a scratch.

I must have missed that then. When did it happen? Either way, her blunt force and energy durability greatly exceed the Asgardians'.

Hes a bias marvel thorbag.

Check around 4:06 and you'll see the wound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkpDfQVGQo

Originally posted by Silent Master
Check around 4:06 and you'll see the wound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkpDfQVGQo

How is that possible when that clip isnt even close to 4 minutes long?

The clip is over 13 minutes long.

Ah, it skipped to next video for me. Anyways, didnt she get an upgrade post that showing?

I don't recall her getting hit with any slashing or piercing attacks after that, so it's impossible to say how well she'd stand up to them.

I don't think it matters, as the Destroyer doesn't really use slashing or piercing attacks.

Yea she seemes to shrug off energy based attacks.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I must have missed that then. When did it happen? Either way, her blunt force and energy durability greatly exceed the Asgardians'.

It's during the fight in the beach. I'm not denying that she has some pretty good blunt force durability... I don't recall her tanking a lot of energy attacks though.

In any case, I'm not saying Asgardians can defeat her. I'm just calling a tomato a tomato, and pointing out that Asgardians have so far shown better durability since she seems susceptible to bullets and blades.

I guess lightning isnt energy now. What a joke.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's during the fight in the beach. I'm not denying that she has some pretty good blunt force durability... I don't recall her getting hit by energy attacks though.

In any case, I'm not saying Asgardians can defeat her. I'm just calling a tomato a tomato, and pointing out that Asgardians have so far shown better durability since she seems susceptible to bullets and blades.

Even thought I think WW wins, I think that the Destroyer is being majorly low-balled here. I mean even after Thor caused it's disintegration beam to back-up and cause an internal explosion, the armor itself wasn't damaged. that and it casually backhanded a flying car. indicating that it's strength is well into the multi-ton range.

Also, the Destroyer isn't actually solid metal, Sif didn't pierce it with her spear, she stabbed it between the armor bands.

Originally posted by Silent Master
at least you got TI's sock account to laugh. Is that who that is?

lol

Originally posted by Silent Master
For crying out loud xfBsH24DTaY

WW has no way to replicate this tactic. The tactic of putting Mjolnir at the root of its visor? Sure. The tactic of sending its beam energy back inside its visor. Perhaps and debatable.

Originally posted by h1a8
The tactic of putting Mjolnir at the root of its visor? Sure. The tactic of sending its beam energy back inside its visor. Perhaps and debatable.

It's not debatable.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Check around 4:06 and you'll see the wound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkpDfQVGQo

Okay, I guess she has the same shit piercing durability as in the comics. I don't know how that helps the Destroyer, though.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's during the fight in the beach. I'm not denying that she has some pretty good blunt force durability... I don't recall her tanking a lot of energy attacks though.

In any case, I'm not saying Asgardians can defeat her. I'm just calling a tomato a tomato, and pointing out that Asgardians have so far shown better durability since she seems susceptible to bullets and blades.

I guess we can chalk that up to her being magic or whatever. I still say the warriors would get killed by Doomsday's hits.

Originally posted by Sable
Hes a bias marvel thorbag.


Think it's clear where the bias is from this comment.

No I love Thor, but the wank he gets is out of control. It makes the character worse by the wank. When its easy to just represent him as what he is.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's not debatable. She has shown the ability to absorb energy and to send it back. It's debatable that she can absorb the energy and get close enough and send it back inside the visor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude, she got cut during a scuffle with WW1 soldiers. Asgardians have taken on bullets and tactical knives without a scratch. All Asgardians are different. Different powers and abilities and different species. Loki is a frost giant for crying out loud.
IMO, Sif is not bulletproof or tactical knife proof. The writer portrayed this when her armor blocked the shotgun shot.

Even Thor got stabbed by a knife. There is no where in all the movies that points to Asgardians knifes being more durable than human knives. To say so is to make stuff up.

Originally posted by h1a8
She has shown the ability to absorb energy and to send it back. It's debatable that she can absorb the energy and get close enough and send it back inside the visor.

Let's start with the most obvious flaw, why would she even try?

Like I said, I believe she wins. I'm just not convinced she'll be able to cut it's head off. remember, The Destroyer isn't solid metal, Sif stabbed between the metal bands, not through them.

Originally posted by h1a8
All Asgardians are different. Different powers and abilities and different species. Loki is a frost giant for crying out loud.
IMO, Sif is not bulletproof or tactical knife proof. The writer portrayed this when her armor blocked the shotgun shot.

Even Thor got stabbed by a knife. There is no where in all the movies that points to Asgardians knifes being more durable than human knives. To say so is to make stuff up.

There's so much dumb stuff here to even reply to.

Most of your posts are like that tbh.

Originally posted by h1a8
Even Thor got stabbed by a knife. There is no where in all the movies that points to Asgardians knifes being more durable than human knives. To say so is to make stuff up.


I have to ask, are you retarded or just trolling?