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This is Darkseid before the reboot vs Gorr. Who's taking This? No bfr.

Darkseid was never rebooted, explained by Highfather himself during his war with the lantern corps. The newgods existed through the reboot and were unaffected by it.

The Darkseid that was from the days of PC is the same Darkseid of present day, the only difference is that his true for has rarely been seen. IE when Constantine saw Darkseid's true hand emerge and it was the size of a galaxy, of which it then proceeded to destroy that segment of reality.

Ok. Anyone else have an opinion on this fight?

Darkseid.

Easily.

There is only one true darkseid. He wins.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Darkseid was never rebooted, explained by Highfather himself during his war with the lantern corps. The newgods existed through the reboot and were unaffected by it.

The Darkseid that was from the days of PC is the same Darkseid of present day, the only difference is that his true for has rarely been seen. IE when Constantine saw Darkseid's true hand emerge and it was the size of a galaxy, of which it then proceeded to destroy that segment of reality.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/550/727/7f1.gif

Darkseid is Darkseid.

Sin, what are you basing that off of?

Originally posted by carver9
Sin, what are you basing that off of?

https://media.tenor.com/images/1a344b45b97ac46cf0f23610392899ac/tenor.gif


Originally posted by Board Walker
Darkseid was never rebooted, explained by Highfather himself during his war with the lantern corps. The newgods existed through the reboot and were unaffected by it.

The Darkseid that was from the days of PC is the same Darkseid of present day, the only difference is that his true for has rarely been seen. IE when Constantine saw Darkseid's true hand emerge and it was the size of a galaxy, of which it then proceeded to destroy that segment of reality.

Darkseid has multiple emanations/avatars in the Multiverse, the same as all the New Gods.

The true form is rarely seen .

All the emanations come from a higher dimension where they live. The New Gods themselves have experienced all the Crisis events.

Good idea for a fight!

Originally posted by Board Walker
Darkseid was never rebooted, explained by Highfather himself during his war with the lantern corps. The newgods existed through the reboot and were unaffected by it.

The Darkseid that was from the days of PC is the same Darkseid of present day, the only difference is that his true for has rarely been seen. IE when Constantine saw Darkseid's true hand emerge and it was the size of a galaxy, of which it then proceeded to destroy that segment of reality.



For Carver:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f9/Multiversity_New_Gods.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160920160340

Darkseid easily.

Darkseid.

Darksieds true form wins easily, one of his avatars that we usually see would be dominated though.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Darksieds true form wins easily, one of his avatars that we usually see would be dominated though.

We are not using a Darkseid we rarely see. We are using the average Darkseid.

I don't know how to judge Darkseid. Is it the one who gets beat up by Superman from time to time or the one who can wreck the universe by fighting Anti Monitor?

Originally posted by Damborgson
I don't know how to judge Darkseid. Is it the one who gets beat up by Superman from time to time or the one who can wreck the universe by fighting Anti Monitor?
Is there any difference in that? You're acting like Superman can't do that when he is doing it for decades. Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Darksieds true form wins easily, one of his avatars that we usually see would be dominated though.
And the reason for that? Darkseid can beat someone with the power of entire race of new gods. Gorr is nothing compared to that.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Darksieds true form wins easily, one of his avatars that we usually see would be dominated though.
Best answer in the thread.

Originally posted by carver9
We are not using a Darkseid we rarely see. We are using the average Darkseid.

What exactly is an average Darkseid?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What exactly is an average Darkseid?

The Darkseid we see, not the one that dwarf planets. There is a difference, right? Unless you think the one that almost destroying everything by falling is the normal Darkseid?. Come on Sin, you're trying to hard. You don't do this for Marvel characters.

Carver, are you using classic version/true size Darkseid?

Darkseid avatars are as powerful as Darkseid wants them to be, your attempt to depower Darkseid by trying to create some fictitious average isnt very accurate.

Pre-Crisis Darkseid, the Darkseid that fought the Source, etc. We're all avatars of Darkseid. So if you want to use an average of Darkseid''s avatars and entirely ignore Abstract Darkseid's omniversal power, than you are still dealing with a universal+ avatar on average.

Originally posted by Zack M
Carver, are you using classic version/true size Darkseid?

The Darkseid that was assisting in battling Imperiex. The Darkseid that Superman thought killed Supergirl. The Darkseid that fought Black Mary. The Darkseid that took control of Supergirl. The list is long.

So, the avatars of Darkseid?

Originally posted by carver9
The Darkseid we see, not the one that dwarf planets. There is a difference, right? Unless you think the one that almost destroying everything by falling is the normal Darkseid?. Come on Sin, you're trying to hard. You don't do this for Marvel characters.

Darkseid is Darkseid guy. If you have a specific version use it. Stop acting like you joined yesterday. BoardWalker already broke down Darkseids history. You like to gimp characters to force an outcome. So unless you can prove Gorr is a threat stfu. Thread starters shouldnt have anything to say past the op thats biased unless this is yet again another bait thread.

I highly doubt thats what hr wanted. If Darkseids true form is allowed to be used, it becomes obvious spite. Yet thats obviously not the form that shows up more than the one who fights Superman.

From what I can tell, he's just avoiding a spite thread.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I highly doubt thats what hr wanted. If Darkseids true form is allowed to be used, it becomes obvious spite. Yet thats obviously not the form that shows up more than the one who fights Superman.

From what I can tell, he's just avoiding a spite thread.

smart man. Sin is wrapped up on making marvel characters look bad that she's blind to the obvious. Why would I make a Galaxy sized Darkseid fight Gorr when the outcome is freaking obvious.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I highly doubt thats what hr wanted. If Darkseids true form is allowed to be used, it becomes obvious spite. Yet thats obviously not the form that shows up more than the one who fights Superman.

From what I can tell, he's just avoiding a spite thread.

If Gor fought a fraction of Darkeid's true power, it would be spite in favor of Gor.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Darkseid is Darkseid guy. If you have a specific version use it. Stop acting like you joined yesterday. BoardWalker already broke down Darkseids history. You like to gimp characters to force an outcome. So unless you can prove Gorr is a threat stfu. Thread starters shouldnt have anything to say past the op thats biased unless this is yet again another bait thread.

Yeah...how about you go and make a spite thread. I think standard Darkseid is enough to give Gorr fits. SMDH.

Originally posted by Zack M
If Gor fought a fraction of Darkeid's true power, it would be spite in favor of Gor.

So, the Darkseid we usually see spite stomps Gorr?

Originally posted by carver9
So, the Darkseid we usually see spite stomps Gorr?

Depends on which Darkseid. True DS stomps.

Originally posted by carver9
So, the Darkseid we usually see spite stomps Gorr?

Originally posted by Damborgson
I highly doubt thats what hr wanted. If Darkseids true form is allowed to be used, it becomes obvious spite. Yet thats obviously not the form that shows up more than the one who fights Superman.

From what I can tell, he's just avoiding a spite thread.

Youre white knighting today Damgorg?

Im aware. I know he wasnt referring to the multiversal DS that can wreck universes. He should have been clearer tho...if he wanted Gorr to fight an avatar just pick one. Certain ones are a threat to Gorr certain ones arent. For him to say " average Darkseid" is disingenous.


Originally posted by carver9
smart man. Sin is wrapped up on making marvel characters look bad that she's blind to the obvious. Why would I make a Galaxy sized Darkseid fight Gorr when the outcome is freaking obvious.

I dont create suspect threads or have a biased outlook. You generally can tell by lookin at the thread title even before clicking the link who can win a fight.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Youre white knighting today Damgorg?

Im aware. I know he wasnt referring to the multiversal DS that can wreck universes. He should have been clearer tho...if he wanted Gorr to fight an avatar just pick one. Certain ones are a threat to Gorr certain ones arent. For him to say " average Darkseid" is disingenous.




I dont create suspect threads or have a biased outlook. You generally can tell by lookin at the thread title even before clicking the link who can win a fight.

...maybe you need to tell that to everyone in here then who seems to catch on to the obvious.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=635342&highlight="Darkseid+vs+Thanos"

You even posted in this one and didn't say what you are currently saying and the thread starter did the same thing I did.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622284&highlight="Darkseid+vs+Thanos"

Lol... this is something much more that you are trying to do here. Is it attention or a crowd you are trying to impress or did I mess with someone you felt like I shouldn't have messed with?. You have an obvious objective because you wouldn't have did this in anyone else's thread but mine.

I read between lines well, Sin.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Youre white knighting today Damgorg?

Im aware. I know he wasnt referring to the multiversal DS that can wreck universes. He should have been clearer tho...if he wanted Gorr to fight an avatar just pick one. Certain ones are a threat to Gorr certain ones arent. For him to say " average Darkseid" is disingenous.



-shrug-

Just didn't agree with the post lol.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Youre white knighting today Damgorg?

Im aware. I know he wasnt referring to the multiversal DS that can wreck universes. He should have been clearer tho...if he wanted Gorr to fight an avatar just pick one. Certain ones are a threat to Gorr certain ones arent. For him to say " average Darkseid" is disingenous.




I dont create suspect threads or have a biased outlook. You generally can tell by lookin at the thread title even before clicking the link who can win a fight.

Where is this multiversal Darkseid shown?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where is this multiversal Darkseid shown?

In Final Crisi it was established that every Darkseid that we've seen so far we're all avatars of the true Darkseid.

When the true Darkseid showed up, he was literally destroying the Multiverse itself.

In the New 52, High Father explained that th Mew Gods knows about the Crisis and we're immune to them.

In the New 52, Darkseid took notices of Constantine, and just his hand alone was big enough to cover a planet, it took all of Constantines magic to barely stopped Darkseid's hand from destroying the galaxy.

On Earth 2. The Green Lantern of that universe, Alan Scott fought Darkseid 1on1, and he specifically said he was accessing the Green, The Red, The Black and one more. He was using there powers to power himself up, and Darkseid still beat him. And he was accessing them on the Multiversal scale.

Originally posted by SquallX
In Final Crisi it was established that every Darkseid that we've seen so far we're all avatars of the true Darkseid.

When the true Darkseid showed up, he was literally destroying the Multiverse itself.

In the New 52, High Father explained that th Mew Gods knows about the Crisis and we're immune to them.

In the New 52, Darkseid took notices of Constantine, and just his hand alone was big enough to cover a planet, it took all of Constantines magic to barely stopped Darkseid's hand from destroying the galaxy.

On Earth 2. The Green Lantern of that universe, Alan Scott fought Darkseid 1on1, and he specifically said he was accessing the Green, The Red, The Black and one more. He was using there powers to power himself up, and Darkseid still beat him. And he was accessing them on the Multiversal scale.

Where specifically is this shown in Final Crisis? Quotes or scans?

Someone in this thread said that Darkseid's hand is galaxy sized.

https://i.imgur.com/RV81H2g_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

This scan indicates that the gravity is pulling in the people Constantine saved. Is there another scan where it is shown about to destroy a galaxy?

Darkseid's essence falls through time and this threatens reality. This after Orion kills him in battle and destroys his body. Doesn't time travel often threatened the multiverse?

Doesn't Scott KO Darkseid? Accessing the green, etc. from multiple Earths doesn't equate to multiversal power.

Would not the Darkseid who resides on Apokolips be the true Darkseid?

Hulkster...enjoy seeing you online buddy.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Would not the Darkseid who resides on Apokolips be the true Darkseid?

Pre 52 and multiversity, yes. Now there is a higher form. There are new gods in different universes but their aspects of one totality. Darkseid in multiversity was in the process of merging his forms back into one

Carver stipulated this was pre reboot so I assume he means pre 52 more his traditional protrayls

Originally posted by -K-M-
Now there is a higher form.

True Mungiseid, yes.

Pretty crazy when you think about it. Apokolips is just an extension of Darkypoo.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
True Mungiseid, yes.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l52CGyJ4LZPa0/200.gif

Darkseid

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Darksieds true form wins easily, one of his avatars that we usually see would be dominated though.

Originally posted by zopzop
Best answer in the thread.

Agreed. Gorr with All Black had some impressive showings.

Used to like Gorr, until Iearned about this character:


https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/85552/6534359-knull_%28earth-616%29_from_venom_vol_4_3_001.jpg


You're telling me something as awesome as the Necrosword is related to this *******?


The King of the lamest Marvel creation ever, Symbionts?


Gedouttahere!

God of the Symbiotes.

Originally posted by Stoic
God of the Symbiotes.



Exactly.


Venom is just so LAME. Symbiotes, ugh.

Considering Darkseid's recent showing and feats ,Even non true Darkseid can defeat Gorr.

Originally posted by CatL18
Considering Darkseid's recent showing and feats ,Even non true Darkseid can defeat Gorr.

What recent showings?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What recent showings? bro just read the comics.

Originally posted by Diesldude
bro just read the comics.

What comics? There are thousands.

Thousands of recent comics featuring Darkseid? I doubt it

Hundreds? I'll take it that such "recent" showings don't exist. After Darkseid War, I haven't seen anything that impressive. Gorr stomps.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Hundreds? I'll take it that such "recent" showings don't exist. After Darkseid War, I haven't seen anything that impressive. Gorr stomps.

I don't think there are even hundreds of recent comics featuring Darkseid. But sure, if YOU think there are thousands/hundreds, go for it

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't think there are even hundreds of recent comics featuring Darkseid. But sure, if YOU think there are thousands/hundreds, go for it

There are thousands of comics out there to read. I can't read them all. So apparently many Darkeid's recent showings were missed. Just reference the showings.

I don't think Gorr can survive the OE. Darkseid.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
There are thousands of comics out there to read. I can't read them all. So apparently many Darkeid's recent showings were missed. Just reference the showings.
No one asked you to read the thousands of comics out there, lmao.

Unless you think Darkseid is multiversal, and shows up in Image, Marvel, Dark Horse, 2000AD comics etc? If you're entertaining that possibility, then.....the work is done, lol.

Even if you just limit it to DC, he's not showing up in EVERY issue of, say, Teen Titans Go to Camp!, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No one asked you to read the thousands of comics out there, lmao.

Unless you think Darkseid is multiversal, and shows up in Image, Marvel, Dark Horse, 2000AD comics etc? If you're entertaining that possibility, then.....the work is done, lol.

Even if you just limit it to DC, he's not showing up in EVERY issue of, say, Teen Titans Go to Camp!, lol.

Henceforth why I would NOT automatically have read all of his resent appearances. I'm amazed that you are missing that point and responding to a point not made. And why do you avoid posting these recent feats that put him above Gorr? Is it because they don't exist?

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I don't think Gorr can survive the OE. Darkseid.

Why not? Thor survived, Doomsday did as well.

Originally posted by Stoic
Why not? Thor survived, Doomsday did as well.

Gorr would survive.

https://m.imgur.com/enQDzKz

Originally posted by Stoic
Why not? Thor survived

when did that happen? dont tell me dc vs marvel...

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Gorr would survive.

https://m.imgur.com/enQDzKz

Not sure why a guy that could beat the brakes off of All Father Thor, and two other Thor's wouldn't be a match for a guy that is challenged by the JL? All Father Thor was able to hold his own against Galactus, and was written to be the most powerful Sky Father ever. Gorr was going to kill him.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Henceforth why I would NOT automatically have read all of his resent appearances. I'm amazed that you are missing that point and responding to a point not made. And why do you avoid posting these recent feats that put him above Gorr? Is it because they don't exist?

I'm just surprised you're pretty much convinced that DS is multiversal when earlier, you weren't.

Him being multiversal is the only way he can potentially have appeared in thousands of comics.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm just surprised you're pretty much convinced that DS is multiversal when earlier, you weren't.

Him being multiversal is the only way he can potentially have appeared in thousands of comics.

Concession accepted.

all father thor is around aquaman level

lol thorbags, bunch of clowns

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Concession accepted.
Not sure what I conceded? Was I defending a point?

Originally posted by MrMind
all father thor is around aquaman level

lol thorbags, bunch of clowns

Guys, always remember. Never feed trolls.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm just surprised you're pretty much convinced that DS is multiversal when earlier, you weren't.

Him being multiversal is the only way he can potentially have appeared in thousands of comics.

Multiversal Darkseid wins without a doubt. I thought that we were debating his Avatars?

Originally posted by Stoic
Multiversal Darkseid wins without a doubt. I thought that we were debating his Avatars?

He's trolling. Plus, the notion of some mystery true form Darkseid has been long discarded, except by fanboys.

marvel fanboys and their delusions

Originally posted by MrMind
when did that happen? dont tell me dc vs marvel...

It happens in one of the other crossovers they fought each other in.

are we using dc vs marvel as canon evidence now? in this case...spectre=living tribunal...

Originally posted by MrMind
are we using dc vs marvel as canon evidence now? in this case...spectre=living tribunal...

And Impossible Man = Mxy (they actually fight).

Originally posted by MrMind
marvel fanboys and their delusions

Seriously.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What recent showings?
Read Justice League odyssey.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He's trolling. Plus, the notion of some mystery true form Darkseid has been long discarded, except by fanboys. True form DS almost took down the multiverse has that been retconned?

Originally posted by Diesldude
True form DS almost took down the multiverse has that been retconned?

No, final crisis is very much in continuity

Originally posted by Diesldude
True form DS almost took down the multiverse has that been retconned?

Basically. It's been forgotten about and contradicted by subsequent writers. Not to mention exaggerations surrounding it.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Basically. It's been forgotten about and contradicted by subsequent writers. Not to mention exaggerations surrounding it.

quit spreading misinformation please

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He's trolling. Plus, the notion of some mystery true form Darkseid has been long discarded, except by fanboys.

How am I trolling for pointing out your exaggeration and contradiction?

Originally posted by MrMind
No, final crisis is very much in continuity

Agreed was only asking because of that guy under your post spreading misinformation.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Basically. It's been forgotten about and contradicted by subsequent writers. Not to mention exaggerations surrounding it. not that I don't believe you, I don't, do you have any proof? Ill change my stance if you can provide it.

Originally posted by Diesldude
not that I don't believe you, I don't, do you have any proof? Ill change my stance if you can provide it. Lol, He can't, Especially when the final crisis was mentioned again in Snyder's JL run
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League-2018/Issue-27?id=157550#7

Final Crisis is no more valid for DC, then Post Crisis is for Superman!

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, He can't, Especially when the final crisis was mentioned again in Snyder's JL run
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League-2018/Issue-27?id=157550#7

LOL, no one said that FC is no longer in continuity. The notion of an ethereal, all powerful true form Darkseid has not been applied since FC and has been contradicted. New 52 DS is not an avatar and is the basis for the Darkseid we see today.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
LOL, no one said that FC is no longer in continuity. The notion of an ethereal, all powerful true form Darkseid has not been applied since FC and has been contradicted. New 52 DS is not an avatar and is the basis for the Darkseid we see today. So you have no proof that Darkseid's true form that appearing in FC has been retconed, Got it

Originally posted by TheHulkster
LOL, no one said that FC is no longer in continuity. The notion of an ethereal, all powerful true form Darkseid has not been applied since FC and has been contradicted. New 52 DS is not an avatar and is the basis for the Darkseid we see today.

No one said you did?

He was merely asking you to prove that true form DS almost taking down the multiverse was 'basically' retconned.

Iow, to prove your statement.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No one said you did?

He was merely asking you to prove that true form DS almost taking down the multiverse was 'basically' retconned.

Iow, to prove your statement.

Read the books.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you have no proof that Darkseid's true form that appearing in FC has been retconed, Got it

Your strawman is obvious. I never said anything about a retcon. I said that it's contradicted by what's shown today as well as previously. I pointed out New 52.

That's not to mention the BS around what is claimed that FC DS does.

lol silly troll

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Read the books.

There are millions of books out there in the world.

Deja vu

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He's trolling. Plus, the notion of some mystery true form Darkseid has been long discarded, except by fanboys.

Sorry man. There is a true Darkseid, and he could hold his own against IG Thanos. It's the reason why COIE had no effect on his continuity. If anyone had a scan of the DC Multiverse, you would see that the New Gods actually live on a higher plane of existence, which was from my understanding unaffected by the COIE. The reason that he uses avatar forms is because his true self is actually too powerful to enter any if not most lower planes of existence. DC's cosmology is completely different than Marvel.

Anyway, why draw out an argument that pits Darkseid in avatar form vs Gorr?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There are millions of books out there in the world.

Well I'll let a guy who read 10,000 provide you with proof.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Darkseid-has-multiple-avatars-and-his-true-form-lies-beyond-the-DC-multiverse-Is-there-any-proof-to-this-How-powerful-is-he/answer/Ash-Cros%C3%A1il-1

Originally posted by Stoic
Sorry man. There is a true Darkseid, and he could hold his own against IG Thanos. It's the reason why COIE had no effect on his continuity. If anyone had a scan of the DC Multiverse, you would see that the New Gods actually live on a higher plane of existence, which was from my understanding unaffected by the COIE. The reason that he uses avatar forms is because his true self is actually too powerful to enter any if not most lower planes of existence. DC's cosmology is completely different than Marvel.

Anyway, why draw out an argument that pits Darkseid in avatar form vs Gorr?

But he is beaten up by Doomsday and Superman on Apokolios.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Your strawman is obvious. I never said anything about a retcon. I said that it's contradicted by what's shown today as well as previously. I pointed out New 52.

That's not to mention the BS around what is claimed that FC DS does. This is the original question Diesldude was asking
Originally posted by Diesldude
True form DS almost took down the multiverse has that been retconned?
And that is your reply, And it very much like a "yes" for me
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Basically. It's been forgotten about and contradicted by subsequent writers. Not to mention exaggerations surrounding it.
And, Speaking N52. The multiversity actually has a connection to it, Since it explained How did darkseid return from his death in FC
https://ibb.co/R7C6DfV
https://ibb.co/2tmmDzZ
https://ibb.co/mFKbBRP
https://ibb.co/WnBSvT0
https://ibb.co/tBdPDmv

Originally posted by -K-M-
Deja vu

Of course I was giving him the same response that he defended.

I wasn't defending that point.

I was attacking your assertion that you had to wade through "thousands" of comics to find Darkseids recent showings

New Gods just work on a much grander scale, compared to most Marvel gods.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And that is your reply, And it very much like a "yes" for me

That was meant to be one sentence.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
But he is beaten up by Doomsday and Superman on Apokolios.

Wasn't a retcon placed on that particular story though? I used to think the same BTW, but Squall said that Doomsday, and Superman have never actually gone up, or met Darkseid in his true form. Why would he lie? Why wouldn't Galan and a few others not jump in and correct him if he was wrong? Etc.

Again, this is one of his Avy's vs Gorr.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
But he is beaten up by Doomsday and Superman on Apokolios. Originally posted by TheHulkster
But he is beaten up by Doomsday and Superman on Apokolios. But later in FC Darkseid said this
https://ibb.co/NyT2Kzq
BTW, If you want using the Dan Jurgens tweet which inadmissible on this forum mind you
Didio also said this on an interview
https://www.newsarama.com/20984-dan-didio-talks-infinity-man-his-facebook-mistake-significance-of-march-april-2015.html

And it did have comic scans to support it
https://ibb.co/R9tKMRp
https://ibb.co/BjchBFM

So in summary, My point is: Yes, We regularly using the basis Darkseid(The N52 one) . But No, The true form Darkseid never has been retconned and FC is very much in continuity

Gorr wins. Spite thread.

Hey guys it looks like the Beyonders are going to be wrecking the Justice League. There's more to the Black Winter that wrecked Galactus than what you may believe.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But later in FC Darkseid said this
https://ibb.co/NyT2Kzq
BTW, If you want using the Dan Jurgens tweet which inadmissible on this forum mind you
Didio also said this on an interview
https://www.newsarama.com/20984-dan-didio-talks-infinity-man-his-facebook-mistake-significance-of-march-april-2015.html

And it did have comic scans to support it
https://ibb.co/R9tKMRp
https://ibb.co/BjchBFM

So in summary, My point is: Yes, We regularly using the basis Darkseid(The N52 one) . But No, The true form Darkseid never has been retconned and FC is very much in continuity

Gorr doesnt stand a chance.

Against an Avatar of Darkseid? Don't kid yourself.

Originally posted by carver9
This is Darkseid before the reboot vs Gorr. Who's taking This? No bfr.

Originally posted by carver9
We are not using a Darkseid we rarely see. We are using the average Darkseid.

For those still confused, Carver is obviously talking about a Darkseid Avatar, and not the true Darkseid.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hey guys it looks like the Beyonders are going to be wrecking the Justice League. There's more to the Black Winter that wrecked Galactus than what you may believe.

Was there something new announced or previewed?

Originally posted by Stoic
Hey guys it looks like the Beyonders are going to be wrecking the Justice League. There's more to the Black Winter that wrecked Galactus than what you may believe.

This?

https://i.postimg.cc/W4c71fPk/04.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This?

https://i.postimg.cc/W4c71fPk/04.jpg

Yep. Thanks again DS for posting the scan.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yep. Thanks again DS for posting the scan.

In that 'JLA' universe, it was Darkseid that destroyed their universe.

https://i.postimg.cc/R0nVXX3X/05.jpg

Who does that remind us of?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-89TAkWRokMc/TYwNnO34bTI/AAAAAAAAEvc/cuELwBswaH4/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/DARKSEID+IS+SPLASH+PAGE.jpg

And Big G is crapping his pants at facing this black Winter, and is going round trying to amp himself up with special planets.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In that 'JLA' universe, it was Darkseid that destroyed their universe.

https://i.postimg.cc/R0nVXX3X/05.jpg

Who does that remind us of?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-89TAkWRokMc/TYwNnO34bTI/AAAAAAAAEvc/cuELwBswaH4/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/DARKSEID+IS+SPLASH+PAGE.jpg

And Big G is crapping his pants at facing this black Winter, and is going round trying to amp himself up with special planets.

Of course, which is why he is presently prepairing himself in Thor. Remember, Galactus has variable levels of power.

Originally posted by Stoic
Of course, which is why he is presently prepairing himself in Thor. Remember, Galactus has variable levels of power.

Remember, as per Surfer, it is to amp Galactus to levels 'beyond imagining'

https://i.postimg.cc/90Dx7RgR/23.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember, as per Surfer, it is to amp Galactus to levels 'beyond imagining'

https://i.postimg.cc/90Dx7RgR/23.jpg

Yep, at least in normal space, less we forget how powerful he recently became when marooned in the Dark Dimension. If they do this i hope that they don't drop the ball like thet've done in past potentially epic stories.

stoic

Originally posted by Stoic
Yep, at least in normal space, less we forget how powerful he recently became when marooned in the Dark Dimension. If they do this i hope that they don't drop the ball like thet've done in past potentially epic stories.

Didn't he come into normal space AFTER that? He sure wasn't there the entire storyline..

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't he come into normal space AFTER that? He sure wasn't there the entire storyline..

I was refering to his variable power level potential. People always wondered what a full powered Galactus was. We saw it in that book.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sorry man. There is a true Darkseid, and he could hold his own against IG Thanos. It's the reason why COIE had no effect on his continuity. If anyone had a scan of the DC Multiverse, you would see that the New Gods actually live on a higher plane of existence, which was from my understanding unaffected by the COIE. The reason that he uses avatar forms is because his true self is actually too powerful to enter any if not most lower planes of existence. DC's cosmology is completely different than Marvel.

Anyway, why draw out an argument that pits Darkseid in avatar form vs Gorr?
Stoic, do you ever play favorites with marvel characters bro? This is as straight to the point unbiased post as any I've seen here.