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Now that the President has condemned KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists. When will the democrats condemn antifa?

Really?

^Triggered

how many murders did antifa commit? i forget.


oh no, there goes bashar again, splitting hairs over petty meaningless details like "fisticuffs vs terrorism and murder".

They have killed 2 people.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
how many murders did antifa commit? i forget.


I think zero is the correct answer Bash!

Most ludicrous thread ever?

2 murders, eh? source?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I think zero is the correct answer Bash!

Most ludicrous thread ever?

A bernie fascist killed two girls on a train.

2k0SmqbBIpQ

Originally posted by Sable
A bernie fascist killed two girls on a train.

we're talking about antifa, as your own topic dictates. so no antifa murders then? okay.

So you don't want to recognize he murdered two people?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we're talking about antifa, as your own topic dictates. so no antifa murders then? okay.

but...but...but Antifa wear masks so who knows how many people they've killed. For all we know their ranks are composed of all murders and probably rapist.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
how many murders did antifa commit? i forget.


oh no, there goes bashar again, splitting hairs over petty meaningless details like "fisticuffs vs terrorism and murder".

Please stick to OP, this has nothing to do with murder, violence can be condemned regardless.

Originally posted by Robtard
but...but...but Antifa wear masks so who knows how many people they've killed. For all we know their ranks are composed of all murders and probably rapist.

john wayne gacy could have been antifa for all we know.

how do we know for sure that he didn't just take his black mask off and put on some clown makeup?

that, plus my feefees, forces me to conclude that john wayne gacy was antifa.

Has any democrat, or liberal progressive here condemned antics for their violence, rioting and hurting other people?

Jeremy Joseph Christian was not a member of Antifa. He's a mentally unstable ranter who attended an Alt-right rally, gave Nazi salutes and then murdered two people right after insulting them for being Muslim.

Originally posted by Robtard
Jeremy Joseph Christian was not a member of Antifa. He's a mentally unstable ranter who attended an Alt-right rally, gave Nazi salutes and then murdered two people right after insulting them for being Muslim.

Jeremy Joseph Christian was a liberal progressive Bernie Bro who believed in fascism. And he committed "mass murder" in the name of his cause and killed two muslim girls.

Antifa can still be denounced outside of his wrong doings.

So "liberal progressives" now join in on Alt-right freedom rallies and give Nazi salutes. Cool

Originally posted by Robtard
So "liberal progressives" now join in on Alt-right freedom rallies and give Nazi salutes. Cool

The two terms are not necessarily exclusive to one cause.

A 'Liberal progressive Alt-right Nazi'? Sounds fascinating.

I bet his alignment would be "Chaotic-Neutral"

Originally posted by Robtard
A 'Liberal progressive Alt-right Nazi'? Sounds fascinating.

I bet his alignment would be "Chaotic-Neutral"
Originally posted by Robtard
So "liberal progressives" now join in on Alt-right freedom rallies and give Nazi salutes. Cool
why isnt the media reporting this?

Originally posted by Robtard
A 'Liberal progressive Alt-right Nazi'? Sounds fascinating.

I bet his alignment would be "Chaotic-Neutral"

Nazis were socialist progressives. Democrats and the south primarily endorsed racism hence the civil war. Dixiecrats founded the KKK. Progressives have more ties to the Clan then Republicans.

robtard, you'll need to add " nazis are actually leftists" to that " choose your coping mechanism" list.

This is why the KKK, Neo-Nazis/Nazis and the Alt-Right all endorsed Trump, because they're all Democrats.

Sable, serious question, are you feeling off today?

Originally posted by Sable
Jeremy Joseph Christian was a liberal progressive Bernie Bro who believed in fascism. And he committed "mass murder" in the name of his cause and killed two muslim girls.

Antifa can still be denounced outside of his wrong doings. you're mental

Originally posted by Robtard
This is why the KKK, Neo-Nazis/Nazis and the Alt-Right all endorsed Trump, because they're all Democrats.

Sable, serious question, are you feeling off today?

I'm sick of the finger pointing and the downfall of the country.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
you're mental

Says the guy with puppets in his sig

The title of this thread should be changed to "Triggered by the President Condemning White Nationalism."

The OP is literally complaining that Trump was forced to condemn a group he ostensibly supports, so he wants to force a similar condemnation from Democrats on a message board to help his fee fees.

Nevermind that Anti-Fa is not supported by the DNC, or most Democrats for that matter.

That's not what the OP says, poop. But glad to see you got triggered by it.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The title of this thread should be changed to "Triggered by the President Condemning White Nationalism."

The OP is literally complaining that Trump was forced to condemn a group he ostensibly supports, so he wants to force a similar condemnation from Democrats on a message board to help his fee fees.

Nevermind that Anti-Fa is not supported by the DNC, or most Democrats for that matter. Brilliant post!

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Brilliant post!

Triggered

Originally posted by Sable
Triggered

Mental

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Mental

Says the puppet guy.

Originally posted by Sable
Says the puppet guy. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/6f/1c/066f1c3fc6c04fdbdcf0bc33187b6902--brighton-england-east-sussex.jpg

But not really

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/6f/1c/066f1c3fc6c04fdbdcf0bc33187b6902--brighton-england-east-sussex.jpg

But not really

Triggered

Originally posted by Sable
Triggered

Mental

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Mental

Triggered again

Originally posted by Sable
Now that the President has condemned KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists. When will the democrats condemn antifa?

They haven't murdered anyone yet, so do not deserve condemnation.

Like, if a nazi had plowed his car into people and only injured them? Nobody would be asking Trump to denounce the white supremacists.

Originally posted by Surtur
They haven't murdered anyone yet, so do not deserve condemnation.

Like, if a nazi had plowed his car into people and only injured them? Nobody would be asking Trump to denounce the white supremacists.

Interesting. Has Antifa plowed a car into a group of people; only injuring them?

Originally posted by Robtard
Interesting. Has Antifa plowed a car into a group of people; only injuring them?

Lol but wait, you're flipping now. Before it was "they didn't murder!!!!!!". Now it's about the specific method of violence?

Originally posted by Robtard
Interesting. Has Antifa plowed a car into a group of people; only injuring them?

No they just destroyed Berkeley and assaulted Trump supporters, rioted through D.C. Etc, etc.

Originally posted by Sable
No they just destroyed Berkeley and assaulted Trump supporters, rioted through D.C. Etc, etc.

Cracked skulls with bike locks, tossed molotov cocktails, chased and beat down people, burned shit down...yeah.

So now even if there had been zero deaths it is quite obvious they STILL would have a problem with both sides being condemned and would try to paint one side as worse. Even after all that bullshit about "they murdered and Antifa didn't!".

I'd thank Rob, but I'm doubting he truly realized the implications of his answer. This wasn't about murder, it never was.

Oh they also assaulted Trump supporters at the deploraball the night of the 20th. But that doesn't count since no one was killed. Violence only matters when some died, if not, no biggie.

Originally posted by Sable
Oh they also assaulted Trump supporters at the deploraball the night of the 20th. But that doesn't count since no one was killed. Violence only matters when some died, if not, no biggie.

And hell it goes beyond Antifa, from last year:

Police Officer Suffers Fractured Spine After Enraged Protester Drops Concrete Block On His Head

You see the cop didn't technically die so who gives a shit?

And do they associate themselves with Democrats? Can you name a Democrat, hopefully President, that has emboldened them?

What's also most curious, where is that "both sides were fighting, so it's all the same" mindset that was slung around endlessly just recently in regards to White Supremacist murdering? Can either of you tell me that?

edit: at Surtur posting Infowars. Despite his claims that he wasn't a Jones-er, knew it was just a matter of time before he exposed himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
And do they associate themselves with Democrats? Can you name a Democrat, hopefully President, that has emboldened them?

What's also most curious, where is that "both sides were fighting, so it's all the same" mindset that was slung around endlessly just recently in regards to White Supremacist murdering? Can either of you tell me that?

edit: at Surtur posting Infowars. Despite his claims that he wasn't a Jones-er, knew it was just a matter of time before he exposed himself.

So again you keep moving the goalposts lol. But I assume most of the folk at CNN are Dems, don't you?

Can you name any Dems that have specifically denounced Antifa?

Lol and I literally googled the cop brick story, but you can pretend it was a "gotcha" if you need to.

Originally posted by Robtard
And do they associate themselves with Democrats? Can you name a Democrat, hopefully President, that has emboldened them?

What's also most curious, where is that "both sides were fighting, so it's all the same" mindset that was slung around endlessly just recently in regards to White Supremacist murdering?

it's also very difficult to get a politicians' opinions on antifa, since their deplorable tactics at least had the virtue of not getting anyone killed (that i know of with any valid citation). apart from deep-4chan rumors of moldylocks putting lighted m-80's inside her bottles, there really doesnt seem to be instances of even attempted murder.

point is you generally don't get politicians to talk about tedious stuff like anarchist groups (and neonazis) unless people are being killed.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's also very difficult to get a politicians' opinions on antifa, since their deplorable tactics at least had the virtue of not getting anyone killed (that i know of with any valid citation). apart from deep-4chan rumors of moldylocks putting lighted m-80's inside her bottles, there really doesnt seem to be instances of even attempted murder.

point is you generally don't get politicians to talk about stuff about tedious stuff like anarchist groups unless people are being killed.

So just to be clear, democratic politicians have only given opinions on right wing stuff when it results in death?

There's no need to pretend, it's there, you little Jones-er you.

Originally posted by Robtard
There's no need to pretend, it's there, you little Jones-er you.

Lol, can't tell if you're trolling so I'm not sure if I should even bother, but okay: google "cop gets brick dropped on him". Here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cop+gets+brick+dropped+on+him&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

For me, the #1 result is:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-milwaukee-cop-sylville-smith-trial-20170611-story.html

That's not the story I wanted. What is the 2nd link? It's the very first link that is the story I was looking for. But hey no you got me.

Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear, democratic politicians have only given opinions on right wing stuff when it results in death?

i said "generally" not "always" can you please learn to read. JFC

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i said "generally" not "always" can you please learn to read. JFC

So most of the time they only chime in when a death happens then?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's also very difficult to get a politicians' opinions on antifa, since their deplorable tactics at least had the virtue of not getting anyone killed (that i know of with any valid citation). apart from deep-4chan rumors of moldylocks putting lighted m-80's inside her bottles, there really doesnt seem to be instances of even attempted murder.

point is you generally don't get politicians to talk about tedious stuff like anarchist groups (and neonazis) unless people are being killed.

If only Surtur showed 1/3 the fuming rage towards White Supremacist murderers as he did that 98lbs vicious criminal...

Originally posted by Sable
Now that the President has condemned KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists. When will the democrats condemn antifa?

As much as I think AntiFa are in general a bunch of scumbags, why on Earth would anyone try to divert attention away from what happened over the last few days?

Screaming "but what about them?" seems almost... In bad taste, imo.

Originally posted by Robtard
If only Surtur showed 1/3 the fuming rage towards White Supremacist murderers as he did that 98lbs vicious criminal...

It's weird how you always try to misrepresent things. Your legendary memory should, in theory, prevent this. But if you recall, my biggest beef was that was that she was getting portrayed as an innocent victim. She was not an innocent victim. It seems when the media doesn't ignore Antifa they make them out to be victims.

Does the media often present white supremacists as innocent?

Originally posted by -Pr-
almost...

frankly sir, i'm offended.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
frankly sir, i'm offended.

I couldn't think of a better word. It was on the tip of my tongue but it eluded me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
As much as I think AntiFa are in general a bunch of scumbags, why on Earth would anyone try to divert attention away from what happened over the last few days?

Screaming "but what about them?" seems almost... In bad taste, imo.

^ This.

This is what I've been saying all night.

Originally posted by -Pr-
As much as I think AntiFa are in general a bunch of scumbags, why on Earth would anyone try to divert attention away from what happened over the last few days?

Screaming "but what about them?" seems almost... In bad taste, imo.

I respectfully disagree. A lot of the criticism directed at Trump for not naming this white supremacy was that it would "embolden" the white supremacists.

I can't figure out how the same wouldn't apply to Antifa being called out, or rather not being called out. Brutal acts of violence have been committed by them in the past. Who is to say this won't embolden them to actually go one step further?

who did antifa kill again? oh right nobody. good luck bro-shielding nazis by deflecting from their murders to some aspie anarchist group . you're a good person.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
^ This.

This is what I've been saying all night.

So you reject the claims by the left that Trump not calling out white supremacy would embolden them?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
who did antifa kill again? oh right nobody. good luck bro-shielding nazis by deflecting from their murders to some aspie anarchist group . you're a good person.

Whenever a valid point is made you just keep repeating this

Originally posted by -Pr-
As much as I think AntiFa are in general a bunch of scumbags, why on Earth would anyone try to divert attention away from what happened over the last few days?

Screaming "but what about them?" seems almost... In bad taste, imo.

https://www.bingoirish.com/content/images/small_logo.png

Originally posted by Surtur
I respectfully disagree. A lot of the criticism directed at Trump for not naming this white supremacy was that it would "embolden" the white supremacists.

I can't figure out how the same wouldn't apply to Antifa being called out, or rather not being called out. Brutal acts of violence have been committed by them in the past. Who is to say this won't embolden them to actually go one step further?

Oh, I fully expect there to be escalation because of the divide between people that exists right now. I just don't see how diverting attention away from the "Nazis" is going to somehow make the situation better.

If I'm missing your point, please, enlighten me.

Originally posted by Robtard
https://www.bingoirish.com/content/images/small_logo.png

I feel like I should be insulted, but it's such a pretty logo.

Originally posted by Surtur
So you reject the claims by the left that Trump not calling out white supremacy would embolden them?

I'm saying that it did embolden them according to that tweet.

Never the less, that has nothing to do with what -Pr- said and I agreed with. Trump's endorsement or lack thereof, his condemnation or lackthereof has nothing to do with what was my actual point. I was angry with the right winging republicans here trying to scoop Antifa's antics as some sort of excuse to divert even a little attention from the facts of a tragedy in a place where it was not needed nor welcomed.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm saying that it did embolden them according to that tweet.

Never the less, that has nothing to do with what -Pr- said and I agreed with. Trump's endorsement or lack thereof, his condemnation or lackthereof has nothing to do with what was my actual point. I was angry with the right winging republicans here trying to scoop Antifa's antics as some sort of excuse to divert even a little attention from the facts of a tragedy in a place where it was not needed nor welcomed.

PR said it would be in bad taste to ask why they aren't being called out. But the logic of leftists is it emboldens them. So why won't Antifa be emboldened?

Originally posted by -Pr-



I feel like I should be insulted, but it's such a pretty logo.

Oh no, your point was on point; was noting that. I too find the whatboutary deflections to be crude and petty, Tom Petty. Someone was murdered, have a little class.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Oh, I fully expect there to be escalation because of the divide between people that exists right now. I just don't see how diverting attention away from the "Nazis" is going to somehow make the situation better.

If I'm missing your point, please, enlighten me.



I feel like I should be insulted, but it's such a pretty logo.

My point is you say asking what about them being denounced is in bad taste. But again: if not doing so emboldens them...what, we avoid it cuz some might find it in bad taste?

Then if they later kill someone, we can at the very least say we avoided saying something in bad taste.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh no, your point was on point; was noting that. I too find the whatboutary deflections to be crude and petty, Tom Petty. Someone was murdered, have a little class.

Lol no, you really don't find them crude or petty. You talking about how others should show class is hilarious too btw lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
PR said it would be in bad taste to ask why they aren't being called out. But the logic of leftists is it emboldens them. So why won't Antifa be emboldened?

Condemnation of riots happens all the goddamn time, Antifa gets in the shit constantly. But condemnation of Nazis for MURDER, that requires attention and condemnation from everyone regardless of political alignment. To compare the two is a false comparative, and you know it to be true.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Condemnation of riots happens all the goddamn time, Antifa gets in the shit constantly. But condemnation of Nazis for MURDER, that requires attention and condemnation from everyone regardless of political alignment. To compare the two is a false comparative, and you know it to be true.

Can you show Antifa specifically being called out by any Democrats?

You also are now spewing BS about false comparisons. I am merely asking why it is not okay to embolden one group, but the other one is fair game because they have committed no murder yet? Can you make that shit make sense?

So if 2 weeks from now Antifa murders someone, can I say they were emboldened by not being called out? I could, right?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol no, you really don't find them crude or petty. You talking about how others should show class is hilarious too btw lol.


Sorry, sport. But I indeed do find you to be crude and petty.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, sport. But I indeed do find you to be crude and petty.

But you didn't say you find Surtur crude and petty though, you described a certain set of behaviors you find petty. Except, you don't find them petty lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Can you show Antifa specifically being called out by any Democrats?

You also are now spewing BS about false comparisons. I am merely asking why it is not okay to embolden one group, but the other one is fair game because they have committed no murder yet? Can you make that shit make sense?

So if 2 weeks from now Antifa murders someone, can I say they were emboldened by not being called out? I could, right?

Can you show me ANYTHING to the contrary? I am really starting to believe that you don't give a shit about wether condemnations were handed out or not, or anything else to do with anything, and are just looking for anything you can use to say "told ya" to anyone on the other side of your opinion pieces.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Can you show me ANYTHING to the contrary? I am really starting to believe that you don't give a shit about wether condemnations were handed out or not, or anything else to do with anything, and are just looking for anything you can use to say "told ya" to anyone on the other side of your opinion pieces.

I asked you if any Democrats denounced Antifa. Can you show any? Riots getting denounced isn't enough lol. Just like condemning both sides wasn't apparently enough. We need specific shit.

You also still haven't explained why emboldening one side is okay, but the other is not?

Originally posted by Surtur
But you didn't say you find Surtur crude and petty though, you described a certain set of behaviors you find petty. Except, you don't find them petty lol.

Oh my, which crude and petty behavior you actively participated in for a few days until Trump abandoned you. This shouldn't be hard to follow, Surt. A child could do it.

Originally posted by Surtur
I asked you if any Democrats denounced Antifa. Can you show any? Riots getting denounced isn't enough lol. Just like condemning both sides wasn't apparently enough. We need specific shit.

You also still haven't explained why emboldening one side is okay, but the other is not?

Have you seen evidence of antifa being emboldened by anything bar their own internal rhetoric? Becuase that tweet proved that the Neo Nazis were emboldened by Trump's lack of condemnation at the time. That is the difference here, there's proof one way.

I'm not going to operate on a "what if" fear on this, if you can find examples of Antifa being emboldened in a similar fashion, then we'll cross this bridge.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
opinion pieces.

you compliment him. he rarely gives his stance on issues. just posts articles that make him mad and tells us about how 'amused' he is over it.

Originally posted by Surtur
I asked you if any Democrats denounced Antifa. Can you show any? Riots getting denounced isn't enough lol. Just like condemning both sides wasn't apparently enough. We need specific shit.

You also still haven't explained why emboldening one side is okay, but the other is not?

Once again, not all anti-fascist are part of these specific small groups of black masked idiots who run around and cause chaos. While all Nazis are Nazis. Do you really not understand?

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh no, your point was on point; was noting that. I too find the whatboutary deflections to be crude and petty, Tom Petty. Someone was murdered, have a little class.

Honestly I was just messing with you.

Originally posted by Surtur
My point is you say asking what about them being denounced is in bad taste. But again: if not doing so emboldens them...what, we avoid it cuz some might find it in bad taste?

Then if they later kill someone, we can at the very least say we avoided saying something in bad taste.

I'm not saying don't denounce them at all. I'm saying just not right now, as it's kind of shitty.

When they do something wrong though? Yes, denounce them. Just don't do it in some sort of weird "one side is worse than x" way.

Those people who show up to rallies in masks and attack people with bats and bricks are bad news, need to be locked up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Honestly I was just messing with you.



I'm not saying don't denounce them at all. I'm saying just not right now, as it's kind of shitty.

When they do something wrong though? Yes, denounce them. Just don't do it in some sort of weird "one side is worse than x" way.

Dude why not now? Why wait? They already pulled more shit at a really in Seattle now An hour away from the neo nazi rally leftists attacked and beat a dude just for filming their protest. Will the Dems and Repubs come out and say anything?

Originally posted by Surtur
Dude why not now? Why wait? They already pulled more shit at a really in Seattle now An hour away from the neo nazi rally leftists attacked and beat a dude just for filming their protest. Will the Dems and Repubs come out and say anything?

Why not now? Because it makes you look like you're excusing what the "Nazis" did, that's why. Even if you aren't, you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

The dude on the bike? Yeah, I saw that. Pretty shitty behaviour by this assholes.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

from the moment the story broke it was desperate and constant "BUT ANTIFA". it's almost like he needs to cease all discussion about the murdering nazi. weird.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why not now? Because it makes you look like you're excusing what the "Nazis" did, that's why. Even if you aren't, you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

The dude on the bike? Yeah, I saw that. Pretty shitty behaviour by this assholes.

Why does the convo have to be steered away? Condemn them and move on, then they can talk about the nazi stuff.

You wait to condemn them and they pull more bullshit. If Antifa kills someone, do we blame the Dems and Repubs for emboldening them by not denouncing them? That would happen, correct? But we both know it wouldn't.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
from the moment the story broke it was desperate and constant "BUT ANTIFA". it's almost like he needs to cease all discussion about the murdering nazi. weird.

Actually it was more from the moment dipshits tried to pull bullshit and act like one side wasn't guilty of anything nor was that side full of violent pieces of shit.

Originally posted by Surtur
Actually it was more from the moment dipshits tried to pull bullshit and act like one side wasn't guilty of anything nor was that side full of violent pieces of shit.

...he said, desperately deflecting from the topic that makes nazis look bad. weird.

#TryHard4Hitler
#Cucking4Nazis

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
...he said, desperately deflecting from the topic that makes nazis look bad. weird.

#TryHard4Hitler
#Cucking4Nazis

We do not need to deflect. We can discuss both pieces of shit. Just because Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean anything, their tactics lead to destruction, violence, and injuries.

But if you shout about nazi bro shields enough it will negate it, I promise.

If this makes me a nazi cuck, it would make you an antifa-cuck. And Nope, one is not better than the other lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
We do not need to deflect. We can discuss both pieces of shit. Just because Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean anything, their tactics lead to destruction, violence, and injuries.

But if you shout about nazi bro shields enough it will negate it, I promise.

If this makes me a nazi cuck, it would make you an antifa-cuck. And Nope, one is not better than the other lol.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/15/16144070/psychology-alt-right

Originally posted by Surtur
We do not need to deflect. We can discuss both pieces of shit. Just because Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean anything, their tactics lead to destruction, violence, and injuries.

But if you shout about nazi bro shields enough it will negate it, I promise.

If this makes me a nazi cuck, it would make you an antifa-cuck. And Nope, one is not better than the other lol.

You say this as if being a NAZI isn't as bad as being apart of a group of punks. Violent hippies are problematic and annoying sure. But the world decided last century in agreement that being a NAZI is bad. Its no longer up for debate or personal opinion. NAZI ideology is evil. Its not for me to decide or anyone else living. After 80 million people died and 1.9 billion people served in the military it became a fact that none of us have any right to dispute. To say otherwise is a spit in the face to people who actually have suffered and paid the ultimate price.

That sounds total and unreasonable and most often I'd be open to a more intellectual and colourful debate. But discussing if being a NAZI is bad, or if it is AS bad as being a typical criminal is something I refuse to do.

Antifa are radicals who believe that Hate Speech is not Free Speech and they believe in direct, sometimes criminal, action. Their end goal is tolerance and probably really annoying PC laws.

Being a NAZI starts with racism, delusions of being superoir and obsession of national security and ends in genocide and invasion.

For the more radical Antifa goons, the end goal is communism. Which ends in more or less the same way Nazism does: a mountain of corpses and untold human suffering.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
For the more radical Antifa goons, the end goal is communism.

You have proof of this?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You have proof of this?
Here is one example of a communist Antifa group: https://www.redneckrevolt.org/

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Here is one example of a communist Antifa group: https://www.redneckrevolt.org/ I'm not clicking anything called redneckrevolt, I don't want to be on the same watch list you are.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I'm not clicking anything called redneckrevolt, I don't want to be on the same watch list you are.
You should. They are communist, Antifa, and self-described 'rednecks'.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
You should. They are communist, Antifa, and self-described 'rednecks'. According to red neck revolt. Bwahaha are you really serious?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
According to red neck revolt. Bwahaha are you really serious?
I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying they are not honest about who they are?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why not now? Because it makes you look like you're excusing what the "Nazis" did, that's why. Even if you aren't, you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

The dude on the bike? Yeah, I saw that. Pretty shitty behaviour by this assholes. Yeah and they are still at it.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying they are not honest about who they are?

I'm curious about this as well. He asked you for proof and refuses to believe it once given.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm curious about this as well. He asked you for proof and refuses to believe it once given.
I guess he just doesn't want to believe that some of the more hardline Antifa are *gasp* communists or at least fellow travelers.

Antifa is fascism personified with an ideology grounded in Marxism and they constantly use fascist tactics to achieve their goals. They will (and have) used violence to shut down, intimidate, harass, and bloody their political opponents. Antifa has used such tactics at Berkely, Portland, Oakland, and Seattle to name a few. They have destroyed storefronts, slashed tires, burned parked cars, smashed windows, shut down public transit, and attacked police officers and civilizations. The Department of Homeland Security has already labeled Antifa's actions as domestic terrorism.

And meanwhile, the Left praises Antifa. From Esquire to Slate (who ran an approving article about a humorous piano ballad that glorified the assault) to the Nation.

Stop excusing evil and violence. Regardless of what side of the political aisle they may be on. White Supremacists, Neo Nazis, and the KKK are vile immoral repugnant monsters. The same goes for Antifa, BLM, and any other group that seeks to use violence and intimidation to shut down anyone who disagrees with them.

It's easy to be against both these groups.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why does the convo have to be steered away? Condemn them and move on, then they can talk about the nazi stuff.

You wait to condemn them and they pull more bullshit. If Antifa kills someone, do we blame the Dems and Repubs for emboldening them by not denouncing them? That would happen, correct? But we both know it wouldn't.

People were doing it IN the damn thread about what happened. It wasn't just wildly off-topic, it came across as really disingenuous.

I'm amazed that thread is still open, tbh.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I guess he just doesn't want to believe that some of the more hardline Antifa are *gasp* communists or at least fellow travelers.

Lol and it is still being ignored. That Redneck Revolt group was one of the groups involved in the violence, destruction, and disruption of a recent pro trump rally in Seattle.

Oh and protests over Google have had to be postponed because of threats of violence from leftist groups.

But hey nazis exist so we can't discuss it.

You said the Police were doing nothing.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You said the Police were doing nothing.

Retard!

Originally posted by Sable
Retard! Thank you for admitting you are a Retard, I find your situation funny too sparkles.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Thank you for admitting you are a Retard, I find your situation funny too sparkles.

Retard lol

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You said the Police were doing nothing.

I stand corrected, they are caving to violent leftist thugs.

Originally posted by Surtur
I stand corrected, they are caving to violent leftist thugs. You mean scared of the Neo nazi's so people had to defend themselves?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You mean scared of the Neo nazi's so people had to defend themselves?

What a retarded question. Then again its you.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You mean scared of the Neo nazi's so people had to defend themselves?

apparently the left aren't allowed to defend themselves from terrorists.

Originally posted by Sable
What a retarded question. Then again its you. Sparkles, I have triggered your retarded brain. By the way, "it's" not "its". Night.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You mean scared of the Neo nazi's so people had to defend themselves?

This is a protest against google, it is not neo nazis.

EDIT: Okay, you meant the other thing, wait..really? It was a separate event lol. Nobody said the cops stand down literally all over the country no matter what all the time. Every time the cops do their jobs is that going to be held onto as a way to ignore the times they didn't?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Sparkles, I have triggered your retarded brain. By the way, "it's" not "its". Night.

I like how easy it is to take you off your path, retard.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
apparently the left aren't allowed to defend themselves from terrorists.

The leftists that get violent, like Antifa, are considered terrorists by you as well right?

Before you respond: nope, whether or not murder is committed does not define terrorism.

Originally posted by Surtur
The leftists that get violent, like Antifa, are considered terrorists by you as well right?

Before you respond: nope, whether or not murder is committed does not define terrorism.
Unless I'm mistaken Antifa has already been officially classified as a terrorist group. Which means in this particular case one terrorist group A attacked terrorist group N and terrorist group N ended up killing someone who arrived with terrorist group A.

So basically terrorist group N is guilty of murder, and terrorist group A is guilty of starting a fight that led to someone getting murdered.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Unless I'm mistaken Antifa has already been officially classified as a terrorist group. Which means in this particular case one terrorist group A attacked terrorist group N and terrorist group N ended up killing someone who arrived with terrorist group A.

So basically terrorist group N is guilty of murder, and terrorist group A is guilty of starting a fight that led to someone getting murdered.

Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.

The violent leftists like Antifa are indeed terrorists though, right?

Originally posted by Surtur
The violent leftists like Antifa are indeed terrorists though, right?

The federal government does not appear to categorize them as domestic terrorists.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.

Bingo.

Why the equalization is just sad and pathetic, it's bringing down the innocent victims to the same level of a terrorist. "Meh, they're all shit". No, only one is a shit, the terrorist.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The federal government does not appear to categorize them as domestic terrorists.

I didn't ask you how the government feels.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo.

Why the equalization is just sad and pathetic, it's bringing down the innocent victims to the same level of a terrorist. "Meh, they're all shit". No, only one is a shit, the terrorist.

and the snakes who force that equalization narrative

Originally posted by Surtur
I didn't ask you how the government feels.

It is the government that decides, so . . .

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.
There are reports that the Nazi's were pepper sprayed as they first entered the park

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The federal government does not appear to categorize them as domestic terrorists.
At least 1 state has, and there are currently petitions to have them declared as such on the federal level. Which makes sense since they frequently participate in terrorist tactics.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is the government that decides, so . . .

Lol okay man, I'll change the angle. All but one state lists them as terrorists(New Jersey is the state). If tomorrow that changed to 100% of states listing them, would it be a decision you agree with?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol okay man, I'll change the angle. All but one state lists them as terrorists(New Jersey is the state). If tomorrow that changed to 100% of states listing them, would it be a decision you agree with?

we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.
Antifa doesn't just target Nazis, they target republicans in general with violence.

Originally posted by darthgoober
There are reports that the Nazi's were pepper sprayed as they first entered the park

Are you dense? You are conflating the Unite the Right rally with the counter-demonstration that was held at a wholly separate location. I went to great lengths to explain this precisely to avoid this confusion.

These demonstrators were peaceful. They held their counter-demonstration at a different location downtown, because they did not want any violent confrontations with White Nationalists.

This means that for any White Nationalists to be present, they had to leave the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, and go downtown to the park where these protesters were holding their counter-demonstration.

Which is precisely what the perpetrator did. He left the Unite the Right rally, got in his car, and drove downtown to where the peaceful demonstrators were, and drove his car into the crowd. There were no pre-incident confrontations with this group.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.

Kinda weird that the same people who insist that Antifa is a terrorist group, even though on NJ recognizes them as such, are the same people who refuse to call White Supremacist terrorist, even though they're on the Federal watch list. It's almost like they have an agenda. Weird.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.

No you don't need a nazi rally. The shitheads got violent over Berkeley and then the Berkeley protests.

But I do love how you seem to be whining NJ dared to list these pieces of shit as a terrorist group lol. Triggered.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Are you dense? You are conflating the Unite the Right rally with the counter-demonstration that was held at a wholly separate location. I went to great lengths to explain this precisely to avoid this confusion.

These demonstrators were peaceful. They held their counter-demonstration at a different location downtown, because they did not want any violent confrontations with White Nationalists.

This means that for any White Nationalists to be present, they had to leave the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, and go downtown to the park where these protesters were holding their counter-demonstration.

Which is precisely what the perpetrator did. He left the Unite the Right rally, got in his car, and drove downtown to where the peaceful demonstrators were, and drove his car into the crowd. There were no pre-incident confrontations with this group.
They had to leave the park because of the fighting, and they were getting attacked as they exited. Don't get me wrong the Nazi is a piece of shit, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to point out that there was another group of assholes who contributed to the whole thing.

not here. put a federal ban on both fascism in all it's rebranded forms, and anti-fascism as well to coddle the white supremacists, just like in nj. sure the antifa banning would be meaningless, but overall the problem is solved so screw it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
They had to leave the park because of the fighting, and they were getting attacked as they exited. Don't get me wrong the Nazi is a piece of shit, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to point out that there was another group of assholes who contributed to the whole thing.

Bingo.

Originally posted by Robtard
Kinda weird that the same people who insist that Antifa is a terrorist group, even though on NJ recognizes them as such, are the same people who refuse to call White Supremacist terrorist, even though they're on the Federal watch list. It's almost like they have an agenda. Weird.
Personally I don't have a problem in calling them terrorists, I'm just saying that they're one of multiple terrorist groups that need to be dealt with.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
not here. put a federal ban on both fascism in all it's rebranded forms, and anti-fascism as well to coddle the white supremacists, just like in nj. sure the antifa banning would be meaningless, but overall the problem is solved so screw it.

I like how the narrative is that the proper labeling of Antifa pieces of shit is just to coddle white supremacists lol.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Are you dense? You are conflating the Unite the Right rally with the counter-demonstration that was held at a wholly separate location. I went to great lengths to explain this precisely to avoid this confusion.

These demonstrators were peaceful. They held their counter-demonstration at a different location downtown, because they did not want any violent confrontations with White Nationalists.

This means that for any White Nationalists to be present, they had to leave the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, and go downtown to the park where these protesters were holding their counter-demonstration.

Which is precisely what the perpetrator did. He left the Unite the Right rally, got in his car, and drove downtown to where the peaceful demonstrators were, and drove his car into the crowd. There were no pre-incident confrontations with this group.

The whiny crybaby Neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell did that in the Vice video. He conflated the peaceful protestors who were rammed by a car as being the same as the anti-fascist fighters at the UtR rally. How he personally justified the murder.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
not here. put a federal ban on both fascism in all it's rebranded forms, and anti-fascism as well to coddle the white supremacists, just like in nj. sure the antifa banning would be meaningless, but overall the problem is solved so screw it.
Labeling Antifa isn't coddling white supremacists, it's acknowledging a group that promotes and utilizes terrorist tactics is a terrorist group.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Labeling Antifa isn't coddling white supremacists, it's acknowledging a group that promotes and utilizes terrorist tactics is a terrorist group.

I am truly interested to see people come up with reasons why this post is wrong.

Originally posted by Surtur
I like how the narrative is that the proper labeling of Antifa pieces of shit is just to coddle white supremacists lol.

we have no nazi rallies, and antifa never seemed to be a problem here either.

Originally posted by Surtur
Bingo.

Um, didn't you sort of say that the people who were mowed down by a car weren't Antifa? You should make up your mind and stick with one narrative. I know it's multiple threads, but be consistent. Kthx

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we have no nazi rallies, and antifa never seemed to be a problem here either.

This wasn't a Nazi rally...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_vX0tknJM

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we have no nazi rallies, and antifa never seemed to be a problem here either.

They were a problem at Berkeley. They were a problem at the Berkeley protests.

The Pro Trump rally in Seattle wasn't a neo nazi rally either.

The google protests were not neo nazi rallies. Yet they had to be postponed.

And don't forget the recent attack on the guy who was simply making a video of their rally

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we have no nazi rallies, and antifa never seemed to be a problem here either.

i'll reword it for you: in new jersey, antifa never really was an issue. i concluded that this is because new jersey does not allow nazi rallies. far out, huh?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol okay man, I'll change the angle. All but one state lists them as terrorists(New Jersey is the state). If tomorrow that changed to 100% of states listing them, would it be a decision you agree with?

Correction: Only one state lists them as such; New Jersey.

And unless or until the federal government designates them a domestic terrorist group, I do not know that it is proper to categorize them that way.

Perhaps the group in New Jersey is deserving of the designation, but when one of the chapters of Operation Rescue bombed an abortion clinic, the others were not immediately classified as terrorists.