Padawan Anakin vs Youngling Maul

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Kurk

Zenwolf
Not really sure there is much for Maul at this point in time, he went to the assassin academy on Orsis for training, but before this he was struggling with his droid teacher TD-D9 who moved faster than he could keep up with. He only just discovered his power and started training.

At the academy he then had issues with a senior cadet, though eventually beating him.

Anakin I believe has the edge overall in both Force proficiency and fighting, he was overall better than his fellow peers at the time and as a Padawan he at least mastered Form 1 and has been on a few missions.

I mean Maul's ferocity can be an edge perhaps, but I'm not entirely sure with that given at this point in time where he is, it might not be enough.

ILS
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Not really sure there is much for Maul at this point in time, he went to the assassin academy on Orsis for training, but before this he was struggling with his droid teacher TD-D9 who moved faster than he could keep up with. He only just discovered his power and started training. That's when he was 3 years old. He's 10 in this thread.

Would need to brush up on my pre-TPM Maul for this thread, but growing up, he not only dominated a lot of the other students at Orsis, but was a champion gladiator accoladed with killing some of the deadliest individuals in the galaxy.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by ILS
That's when he was 3 years old. He's 10 in this thread.

Would need to brush up on my pre-TPM Maul for this thread, but growing up, he not only dominated a lot of the other students at Orsis, but was a champion gladiator accoladed with killing some of the deadliest individuals in the galaxy.

Yeah I know, I was just posting stuff prior to what he did to see where he stands, though think that stuff was post Orsis, 3 years later which wouldn't be applicable here since it's 10 year old Maul. When he arrived at the Academy he didn't do so hot.

ILS
If you equalised their ages (Anakin is 13 in this thread), Maul would be a master of about a dozen unarmed martial arts, would have learned everything he could have from the Orsis academy, and would have trained with a legendary Mandalorian. At 10, he would be 3 years into the 6 he spends getting to that point.

ILS
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yeah I know, I was just posting stuff prior to what he did to see where he stands, though think that stuff was post Orsis, 3 years later which wouldn't be applicable here since it's 10 year old Maul. When he arrived at the Academy he didn't do so hot. You think Maul's performances as a 3 year old even vaguely reflect his competence after being trained by Darth Sidious, everyday, for another 7 years? :/

Under your astute analysis, what has Anakin done by this point to suggest he'd do better?

Kurk
Adjust their ages as needed to make it a fair fight if you'd like. I guessed a bit on my part.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by ILS
If you equalised their ages (Anakin is 13 in this thread), Maul would be a master of about a dozen unarmed martial arts, would have learned everything he could have from the Orsis academy, and would have trained with a legendary Mandalorian. At 10, he would be 3 years into the 6 he spends getting to that point.

But he's 10 here, not 13. Didn't he arrive at the Academy at 10 years old?

Zenwolf
Originally posted by ILS
You think Maul's performances as a 3 year old even vaguely reflect his competence after being trained by Darth Sidious, everyday, for another 7 years? :/

Under your astute analysis, what has Anakin done by this point to suggest he'd do better?

Where are you getting his ages from?

ILS
Originally posted by Kurk
Adjust their ages as needed to make it a fair fight if you'd like. I guessed a bit on my part. 13 vs 13 then? That would make it a much better fight I think.Originally posted by Zenwolf
But he's 10 here, not 13. Didn't he arrive at the Academy at 10 years old? 7. He trained there for 6 years before mastering everything.

I'm gonna dig up some stuff. Would be cool if someone did the same for Anakin.

ILS
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Where are you getting his ages from? Took the dates in the OP and did the maths with their birth dates.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by ILS
13 vs 13 then? That would make it a much better fight I think. 7. He trained there for 6 years before mastering everything.

I'm gonna dig up some stuff. Would be cool if someone did the same for Anakin.

Well ok, since were now going with an even age gap here, then it might be more interesting. I wasn't counting any real post training, since from what I read, we next see Maul at 13 years, not 7.

I mean I can't remember everything, since I dunno he had got anything great at 10 so I wasn't wanna go speculating anything.

ILS
At the age of three Maul is able to pinpoint the vulnerabilities in the anatomy of nearly every species on Mustafar, which includes humanoids. So he already has extensive knowledge on the anatomy, and weak points, of near-human/human bodies.


As Zenwolf said, Maul didn't do so hot initially at the Orsis Academy, at the age of 7. The reason for this was, under Sidious' instruction, he was to challenge the largest cadet he could find. So he challenged a 6 foot 5 Abyssin who was much older and experienced than himself, and he was not to use the Force to win the fight.

Maul lets him throw the first blow, and gets the shit beaten out of him, though he does land one punch without doing any damage. Then he tricks the cadet into letting his guard down. Maul then bites his nose off, and smashes the nerve clusters in his shoulder, leaving him convulsing on the floor.


He fought as a gladiator on Orsis and other nearby worlds, from the age of 10, and became a champion by the age of 12. Presumably these were fights to the death unrestricted by age, experience or size, and as was Maul's imperative at the time, he was to remain anonymous as a Force user at all times - so he wouldn't have relied on augmentation here at all.


At the age of 13, Maul's considered a master of numerous martial arts.


Before his voice had deepened, he already had proficiency/mastery in Teras Kasi.


By the age of 13, Maul had mastered everything the Orsis instructors had to offer, despite being 2 years early for finishing his time there.


So now take all of these accomplishments, bear in mind any age discrepancies, and put a Force-using Maul in front of the first Jedi he's ever seen, let alone had the chance to kill.

What serious combat had Anakin seen by this point?

Rockydonovang
Maul has more impressive feats at this point.

Anakin doesn't surpass Maul till later. In fact you could argue he doesn't even surpass maul until season 6

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Maul has more impressive feats at this point.

Anakin doesn't surpass Maul till later. In fact you could argue he doesn't even surpass maul until season 6


Nah. He was a peer of Dooku as of S4.

And able to challenge him since TCW movie.

godemperortrump
Probably Maul

YousufKhan1212
Maul wins.

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