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This was a fight my son was playing out with his toys.


Who wins?

She-Hulk.

DT wins this pretty convincingly

What??? Jen is several weight classes above Slade. One hit would jack him the ef up. Even an indirect hit would jack him up. SH can move massive amounts of weight. She's actually very fast as well, due to her massive strength to body weight ratio.

Jen would literally tear his head off.

Current Slade would win. Ikon suit is badass

https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aZm69KV_700b.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aZm69KV_700b.jpg

Gotta stop wanking that suit

Superman was losing. I would imagine She Hulk would too. Or she could just punch him, oh, maybe in the head.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gotta stop wanking that suit

Suits are for guys what lingerie is for girls, babe.

@meep: it's a force field. It expands over the person.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Suits are for guys what lingerie is for girls, babe.


Spoken like a gentleman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aZm69KV_700b.jpg I like Superman's multipliers.

His first punch was x force.

His second punch was 4*x.

His third punch jumped all the way to 100*x.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Suits are for guys what lingerie is for girls, babe.

@meep: it's a force field. It expands over the person.

Not saying you're wrong but has it been tried before? A head shot?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Suits are for guys what lingerie is for girls, babe.

@meep: it's a force field. It expands over the person.

That suit is overhyped and wouldnt hold imo to continued abuse. This no limit fallacy is gettin outta hand. Its not like he cant be ripped apart

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aZm69KV_700b.jpg


How long can he maintain that ff? If it's indefinitely then there would be no other option than to bfr. That blast to the face wouldn't put Jen down.

Originally posted by Stoic
How long can he maintain that ff? If it's indefinitely then there would be no other option than to bfr. That blast to the face wouldn't put Jen down.

His sword cut Superman also. It's a special type of promethium that absorbs kinetic energy.

https://s26.postimg.org/bu8kq7khl/deathstroke_sword.jpg

Originally posted by Vanguard
His sword cut Superman also. It's a special type of promethium that absorbs kinetic energy.

But those are Superman's self imposed limitations. He could have easily gotten rid of Slade if he used his abilities.

Why wouldn't She Hulk, be able to roll him up with the street that they were standing on? She's been capable of doing things like that in the past.

We should all be able to admit that Superman fought DS like a rank amateur. It was as if he forgot his incredible speed advantage, his vast strength advantage, and just about every other thing that may come to mind.

Jen has years of training, and a vast unaided physical advantage. This isn't just some average untrained newb that DS is going to walk in on.

I'm not ignoring DS's sword. It's just that SH has some pretty awesome tools coming into this as well.

Originally posted by Vanguard
His sword cut Superman also. It's a special type of promethium that absorbs kinetic energy.

Kinetic energy? It just looked as if it were designed to absorb energy. His entire getup seems to have been designed to resist Krptonians to a certain extent. If they decided to bury him under a few tons of debris, he'd be done for.

Originally posted by Stoic
Kinetic energy? It just looked as if it were designed to absorb energy. His entire getup seems to have been designed to resist Krptonians to a certain extent. If they decided to bury him under a few tons of debris, he'd be done for.

I misspoke on the kinetic energy.

He's already been buried under a few tons of debris and survived.

That's a rare showing for Superman to be cut by something that's not magic. It's not magic is it?

Originally posted by Stoic
What??? Jen is several weight classes above Slade. One hit would jack him the ef up. Even an indirect hit would jack him up. SH can move massive amounts of weight. She's actually very fast as well, due to her massive strength to body weight ratio. DT is considerably faster than SH, add his skill edge, experience edge, weapons, gadgets and tactical edge and it's a near curbstomp. Spiderman might be able to take on DT, but SH brings nothing to the table DT hasn't faced before.

Originally posted by Vanguard
I misspoke on the kinetic energy.

He's already been buried under a few tons of debris and survived.

But was he trapped long enough to be considered pinned? Jen could literally pin him by rolling him up in the road. Getting him off his feet wouldn't be all that hard either tbh. Jen's stomps are like earthquakes which would pop a guy of his weight up into the air, and again Jen isn't that slow not to take advantage of her first assault. I can see how DS can win with the sword, but it never had to get to that. Superman just enjoys making the bad guy think that they can't hurt him. he often gets caught blindsided for doing this, which is his own self imposed limitations. Jen doesn't think like Kal.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That's a rare showing for Superman to be cut by something that's not magic. It's not magic is it?

It was absorbing his energy to make him vulnerable to be cut. Again, this never had to happen if Superman wasn't playing with his food.

Originally posted by shadowknight
DT is considerably faster than SH, add his skill edge, experience edge, weapons, gadgets and tactical edge and it's a near curbstomp. Spiderman might be able to take on DT, but SH brings nothing to the table DT hasn't faced before.


That makes no sense whatsoever. How can DS be faster than She Hulk when she is vastly stronger than him, and has even less drag than he does? Not possible in any universe logically speaking. She isn't muscle bound and held back by bulk in comparison to her strength to weight ration. Slade would be fighting an uphill battle here.

What do all of those weapons mean if he isn't able to close the distance before she creates a localized earthquake?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gotta stop wanking that suit
You should see him with Krypto.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That suit is overhyped and wouldnt hold imo to continued abuse. This no limit fallacy is gettin outta hand. Its not like he cant be ripped apart
Agree.
Agree.
Agree.

Reading the thread, it seems they've taken Slade and Black Panthered the hell out of him.
And the fans are eating it up apparently.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That's a rare showing for Superman to be cut by something that's not magic. It's not magic is it?
It was absorbing HV to do that as the writer explained.

Wondering about the head shots on the ikon suit...

Originally posted by Stoic
How long can he maintain that ff? If it's indefinitely then there would be no other option than to bfr. That blast to the face wouldn't put Jen down.

It said making funeral arrangements right on panel. Suit wasn't going to last much longer. Or maybe he was meaning for Superman. Hmmm

The Ikon suit wasn't absorbing the heat vision.

Originally posted by Stoic
How long can he maintain that ff? If it's indefinitely then there would be no other option than to bfr. That blast to the face wouldn't put Jen down.

It made Supes bleed. Nothing special, no Kryptonite etc...you see his nosebleed.

Originally posted by meep-meep
The Ikon suit wasn't absorbing the heat vision.

Because he needed to cut Supey. Without the energy provided by Supes, it wouldn't have cut him.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Wondering about the head shots on the ikon suit...

His suit has a helmet. He just didn't wear it in that scene:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D7mrGY946tE/WbAMeK_k8YI/AAAAAAABZPg/dKBC8eEF5mULGI2ZE0kNzdPOD9Cwxiv2wCLcBGAs/s1600/023_0006.jpg

If you are wondering why he got stabbed:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YOCb_6LOT4Q/WbAMfRz60vI/AAAAAAABZP0/LoUZyrM_HLIDRao1kav9z4hdILh76UZiwCLcBGAs/s1600/023_0010.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oterIzENGVY/WbAMfpCCNWI/AAAAAAABZP4/CtoXWwZL_fE0KIHHzXZ14ZAe3mt1ncR9wCLcBGAs/s1600/023_0011.jpg

Inertron is back in the DCnU, baby!

As for fists:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H-SoN-MTyhs/WOKAOsGe5AI/AAAAAAACutM/smZfhULWFRsc7aE-Y8XXa4_WE9vpPmJuACLcB/s1600/142_03.jpg

To Stoic, it's powered up by Slade himself:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P20E-yNI8Vw/WODoT6ICs1I/AAAAAAACpQg/752oMQ03YlQIJG2w9WRdwBOfy3GEi2yggCLcB/s1600/225_14.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2646.jpg

I was wrong, btw. Superman wasn't bleeding from that shot to the face. He was bleeding from his own punches:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k5VYZXxIkTU/WOKASHEETXI/AAAAAAACuuk/qB_SyunOCfgxbfjvmj-eFNwxZJgRACiEgCLcB/s1600/143_05.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9irnO53oWds/WOKASJwIxcI/AAAAAAACuuo/fjRJJLcYh1E7T3mJW8OHtEadgQ2sKZUUwCLcB/s1600/143_06.jpg

And then AFTER that, he still has a HF that is, if not Wolverine-esque, is certainly faster than we've seen pre-52, where it closes bullet wounds before your eyes:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ufTxOyP0nl8/WOKAGBIGJRI/AAAAAAACup8/Y29VgKX5FJ8PS2Q2c10Y1ih3REbKl-ajgCLcB/s1600/139_12.jpg

In summary: She-Hulk would be hurting herself with her punches, whilst charging DS up. IF she can manage to get past his Ikon suit, he DOES still have a nifty HF to help him.

Whilst at the same time, he has the speed to block HV, and the weaponry to harm her.

I'd give good odds for Wolverine to take her down. DS would have those same odds.

Superman was only hurt from the punches because they were in a confined space.

Isn't the fight in a dome or something? And I'm assuming She Hulks supporters are going to argue that she is not going to hold back etc and go beyond what Superman showed in that scan....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't the fight in a dome or something? And I'm assuming She Hulks supporters are going to argue that she is not going to hold back etc and go beyond what Superman showed in that scan....

I think shed just grab him and rip him in half like she did vision

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think shed just grab him and rip him in half like she did vision

Surely she'd have to rip the sheath in half to do so?

Edit: Vision was also powered down, and half destroyed when she ripped him:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/15047/2372422-07___avengers_500.cbr___page_29.jpg

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think shed just grab him and rip him in half like she did vision That requires kinetic energy, which the shield absorbs.

Originally posted by Stoic
That makes no sense whatsoever. How can DS be faster than She Hulk when she is vastly stronger than him, and has even less drag than he does? Not possible in any universe logically speaking. She isn't muscle bound and held back by bulk in comparison to her strength to weight ration. Slade would be fighting an uphill battle here.

What do all of those weapons mean if he isn't able to close the distance before she creates a localized earthquake? Same way Spiderman is faster, Cap America is faster, Wolverine is faster and so on. DT has enhance speed & Dex what so hard to understand?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because he needed to cut Supey. Without the energy provided by Supes, it wouldn't have cut him.



His suit has a helmet. He just didn't wear it in that scene:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D7mrGY946tE/WbAMeK_k8YI/AAAAAAABZPg/dKBC8eEF5mULGI2ZE0kNzdPOD9Cwxiv2wCLcBGAs/s1600/023_0006.jpg

If you are wondering why he got stabbed:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YOCb_6LOT4Q/WbAMfRz60vI/AAAAAAABZP0/LoUZyrM_HLIDRao1kav9z4hdILh76UZiwCLcBGAs/s1600/023_0010.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oterIzENGVY/WbAMfpCCNWI/AAAAAAABZP4/CtoXWwZL_fE0KIHHzXZ14ZAe3mt1ncR9wCLcBGAs/s1600/023_0011.jpg

Inertron is back in the DCnU, baby!

As for fists:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H-SoN-MTyhs/WOKAOsGe5AI/AAAAAAACutM/smZfhULWFRsc7aE-Y8XXa4_WE9vpPmJuACLcB/s1600/142_03.jpg

To Stoic, it's powered up by Slade himself:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P20E-yNI8Vw/WODoT6ICs1I/AAAAAAACpQg/752oMQ03YlQIJG2w9WRdwBOfy3GEi2yggCLcB/s1600/225_14.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2646.jpg

I was wrong, btw. Superman wasn't bleeding from that shot to the face. He was bleeding from his own punches:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k5VYZXxIkTU/WOKASHEETXI/AAAAAAACuuk/qB_SyunOCfgxbfjvmj-eFNwxZJgRACiEgCLcB/s1600/143_05.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9irnO53oWds/WOKASJwIxcI/AAAAAAACuuo/fjRJJLcYh1E7T3mJW8OHtEadgQ2sKZUUwCLcB/s1600/143_06.jpg

And then AFTER that, he still has a HF that is, if not Wolverine-esque, is certainly faster than we've seen pre-52, where it closes bullet wounds before your eyes:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ufTxOyP0nl8/WOKAGBIGJRI/AAAAAAACup8/Y29VgKX5FJ8PS2Q2c10Y1ih3REbKl-ajgCLcB/s1600/139_12.jpg

In summary: She-Hulk would be hurting herself with her punches, whilst charging DS up. IF she can manage to get past his Ikon suit, he DOES still have a nifty HF to help him.

Whilst at the same time, he has the speed to block HV, and the weaponry to harm her.

I'd give good odds for Wolverine to take her down. DS would have those same odds.

Appreciate the info Darksaint.

He was just lying on the ground, a husk, when Jen picked him up. She even screams at him to wake up:
https://abload.de/img/avengersdisassembled11uk4q.png

IOW, he wasn't exactly resisting. So you can't use Vision as some kind of benchmark; of course, you might not have been doing so.

It'll be equally valid had you said, she'd rip him apart like she did .

As for the reply to Phildo....wut?

Could go either way

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No thats potential energy I'm going to go ahead and assume that you're being sarcastic, and it's not a case of you not knowing elementary school physics.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
School me sifu In order to punch/grab/push/move you, my body transmits kinetic energy towards you. If you'd have a shield around you, which absorbs kinetic energy, you wouldn't move at all, since the energy transfer never takes place.

Potential energy is a completely different thing.

You can even look at their formulas, and deduce this.

Kinetic energy is the mass * speed squared * 1/2.

It's related to movement.

That energy is transferred when I make contact.

Potential energy is a whole different topic. It's formula is mass * g * distance.

You have potential energy when you're standing still at a height above the Earth, for example. Once you move, you generate kinetic energy.

The energy you generate when you move to make an action on an object has nothing to do with potential, and everything to do with kinetic.

Thus the name - potential.

Yeah in his base durability level it's not unbreakable. He actually has to manipulate his density to be more dense. It's not automatic

So ripping apart a deactivated vision isn't really crazy

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Interesting...so im curious. Is his durability somehow lowered if hes not resisting? Is he suddenly tissue paper?



Seriously?



School me sifu

It's shown his durability, his density etc, is controlled by his mind. It's a conscious decision, either he becomes as hard as diamond or not.

He decides what levels he's at.

So yeah, you have no way of knowing what his levels were at when he's not conscious.

So using him as a benchmark is faulty, because you can't use his high showings as proof that Jen managing to rip him apart is a good feat for her.

So basically we can conclude that She Hulk loses. She wouldn't go and automatically try to tear him apart, not that it would work anyway. Slade motherf*ckin wins.

He is the man. And if you don't know, you better ask somebody.

Ask somebody?
Not in THIS site.

Never said that.

I said there's no way you can use it as a benchmark, as you can't tell what level he's at.

Do you know what he's made from? Genuine question. All I could find was that he was made from the remains of the original Human Torch, who himself was just made from things like ceramic and steel etc.

But no, never said he was ethereal. I said he was depowered (and proved that) and said he was half destroyed (as you can see from his messed up husk face).

Why is it a feat for Jen? You brought it up in the first place, so it must be noteworthy. Is Vision particularly tough? Is his durability high or something IN THAT scan?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Never said that.

I said there's no way you can use it as a benchmark, as you can't tell what level he's at.

Do you know what he's made from? Genuine question. All I could find was that he was made from the remains of the original Human Torch, who himself was just made from things like ceramic and steel etc.

But no, never said he was ethereal. I said he was depowered (and proved that) and said he was half destroyed (as you can see from his messed up husk face).

Why is it a feat for Jen? You brought it up in the first place, so it must be noteworthy. Is Vision particularly tough? Is his durability high or something IN THAT scan?

Made from? No, id have to research it. Hes been damaged and rebuilt too many times by many different folks.

Its not a noteworthy feat. Its a tactic i could see her using. Is he tough? Thats what im asking you? You say hes a husk or weakened but to what degree is he when hes not conscious...

Well Superman was kinetically moving towards Slade, and was able to punch and make contact with him despite the shield that was interpreted falsely. Philo brought a great deal of clarity to a subject, not this subject but whatever. If that were the case, Superman wouldn't have been able to move either. Thus Jen would be able to move. Let's be serious here.

I can see how Slade can win, but I can also see the ways in which Jen could win. Trying to paint a seasoned Avenger that has been in wars, and trained by shield as some kind of flat footed rookie, is underestimating her combat ability as well as the amount of speed that she can generate in her leaps. She outclasses him in speed and strength. He has gear that would be useless in a mass of debris, because with the added speed, Jen would use her environment as weapons. This is the way that she has fought for decades. DS would be up to his neck in trees, boulders buildings cars, buses.

Vanguard, you claimed to have read DS muscling out of thousands of tons of debris? Can I see if possible, or an issue number would suffice.

I think SH has a decent shot.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Interesting...so im curious. Is his durability somehow lowered if hes not resisting? Is he suddenly tissue paper?

1) He was definitely severely damaged, as you said.

2) Shulkie was affected by Wanda's magic. If only putting her into rampage mode.

The whole scene can be posted, I'm sure everyone will agree.

You can even post the later part when Jen fights IM and says her magic messed her up. Do it. Vision was still a piece of shit and if one stat of her was allright, it was strength.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well Superman was kinetically moving towards Slade, and was able to punch and make contact with him despite the shield that was interpreted falsely. Philo brought a great deal of clarity to a subject, not this subject but whatever. If that were the case, Superman wouldn't have been able to move either. Thus Jen would be able to move. Let's be serious here.

I can see how Slade can win, but I can also see the ways in which Jen could win. Trying to paint a seasoned Avenger that has been in wars, and trained by shield as some kind of flat footed rookie, is underestimating her combat ability as well as the amount of speed that she can generate in her leaps. She outclasses him in speed and strength. He has gear that would be useless in a mass of debris, because with the added speed, Jen would use her environment as weapons. This is the way that she has fought for decades. DS would be up to his neck in trees, boulders buildings cars, buses.

Vanguard, you claimed to have read DS muscling out of thousands of tons of debris? Can I see if possible, or an issue number would suffice.

I think SH has a decent shot. Try reading DT comics he's beaten Aquaman, GL , Flash, Xmen and has fought the JL to a standstill. Who denied her Strength advantage over Slade so what? It at best be just 1 factor in the fight. DT has fought numerous stronger than him, how many opponents have Jen beaten who are equivalent to Slade?

Finally What does Jen leaping ability have to do with speed? Slade is faster and a better fighter period, her leaping ability is a non starter. As for being trained by Shield or being an Avenger it means less than diddly, it doesn't make you an A list MA.

Originally posted by Stoic


Vanguard, you claimed to have read DS muscling out of thousands of tons of debris? Can I see if possible, or an issue number would suffice.

I think SH has a decent shot.

https://s26.postimg.org/hal1gzv95/Deathstroke14.jpg

She-Hulk wins. The Ikon suit is weak against the color green. Just like the Green Lanterns uaed to be weak against yellow.

Originally posted by Zack M
She-Hulk wins. The Ikon suit is weak against the color green. Just like the Green Lanterns uaed to be weak against yellow.


https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jPt8EoGRMb0LKM/giphy.gif

Originally posted by Zack M
The Ikon suit is weak against the color green

Regardless of it being truth or not. This is why people don't bother to reply to you.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Regardless of it being truth or not. This is why people don't bother to reply to you.

You just did.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Made from? No, id have to research it. Hes been damaged and rebuilt too many times by many different folks.

Its not a noteworthy feat. Its a tactic i could see her using. Is he tough? Thats what im asking you? You say hes a husk or weakened but to what degree is he when hes not conscious...

Cool, so like I said, you might not have been using Vision as a benchmark.

That's fine.

So you think Jen, without her rage being amped, goes around ripping sentient flesh and blood beings in half, giving them the Ares treatment?

This has been a long meandering conversation, but i gotta ask.
Do you think being ripped apart is the only way Slade takes a loss now?

Originally posted by riv6672
This has been a long meandering conversation, but i gotta ask.
Do you think being ripped apart is the only way Slade takes a loss now?

Nope. I just don't think She-Hulk goes around ripping people apart as some kind of go-to tactic - I don't subscribe to the 'bloodlust' characters.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Wondering about the head shots on the ikon suit...

This is prob a better scan. DS took his helmet off:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-w_t5kieJMPk/WOKARjbbJyI/AAAAAAACuuc/zYvwzx_0rD4_sX6gcriz1JTXNF8LxVzQgCLcB/s1600/143_03.jpg

Originally posted by Stoic
Well Superman was kinetically moving towards Slade, and was able to punch and make contact with him despite the shield that was interpreted falsely. Philo brought a great deal of clarity to a subject, not this subject but whatever. If that were the case, Superman wouldn't have been able to move either. Thus Jen would be able to move. Let's be serious here.

I can see how Slade can win, but I can also see the ways in which Jen could win. Trying to paint a seasoned Avenger that has been in wars, and trained by shield as some kind of flat footed rookie, is underestimating her combat ability as well as the amount of speed that she can generate in her leaps. She outclasses him in speed and strength. He has gear that would be useless in a mass of debris, because with the added speed, Jen would use her environment as weapons. This is the way that she has fought for decades. DS would be up to his neck in trees, boulders buildings cars, buses.

Vanguard, you claimed to have read DS muscling out of thousands of tons of debris? Can I see if possible, or an issue number would suffice.

I think SH has a decent shot.

That scan that Vanguard posted was AFTER Slade had been next to a bomb, pretty much at point blank range. Though he had the Nth metal suit at the time.

How does she outclass him in speed? And she's a Hulk - sure, I'm not saying she's just 'JEN SMASH' like her cousin, but you're painting her to be some kind of tactical genius - when she's going up against DS. The guy who is so tactically aware of his surroundings, he practically has precog.
http://pm1.narvii.com/6327/6cb8e9f0f46cee1260069448df467a14a7a30616_hq.jpg


He has caught speedsters befre:
http://i.imgur.com/FWkGRM2.jpg

There's of course his 'someone threw a submarine at me' feat:
http://i.imgur.com/gxGKGQx.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nope. I just don't think She-Hulk goes around ripping people apart as some kind of go-to tactic - I don't subscribe to the 'bloodlust' characters.
Same here on subscription.
Its why i avoid CBR type threads.
I think the original point was lost (to me at least) somewhere Between pages 2 and 4, i honestly was getting a bit dizzy.
This has been a LOT of double triple talk.

Lol, I can see why.

I think the point Sin's trying to make was fine, striking him won't achieve much, so Jen will just pick Slade up and try and rip him apart.

Like she's done so with so many opponents.

Stoic is talking about her rolling him up in the ground, or burying him- again,the usual go to tactic for Jen.

As opposed to just...punching. Like she normally does.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, I can see why.

I think the point Sin's trying to make was fine, striking him won't achieve much, so Jen will just pick Slade up and try and rip him apart.

Like she's done so with so many opponents.

Stoic is talking about her rolling him up in the ground, or burying him- again,the usual go to tactic for Jen.

As opposed to just...punching. Like she normally does.

Just tossing out possible scenarios as opposed to the normal back and forth.

And no i dont think she"ll give him the ares treatment. I do think she could use her environment or think outside the box.

She could get wins that way, tbf. I'm in agreement.

I just don't think she would get the majority here. Same as with Logan, except Logan could get BFRd with a punch, whereas Slade would still be in range, with his sword.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Just tossing out possible scenarios as opposed to the normal back and forth.

And no i dont think she"ll give him the ares treatment. I do think she could use her environment or think outside the box.
She could just think outside the thread, break the 4th wall and stick Slade on the board's main page, to spend eternity with Colin Farrell, Michael Fassbender, and Rupert Grint.

that would def win her the majority.

Is Sin actually She Hulk?

Originally posted by Zack M
You just did.

Yes, but:

- I was drunk af

- you are my weakness

Stop drinking so much.

Originally posted by carver9
Stop drinking so much.

No.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b3773c45e21e90a2e5871fbdc062c6c2/tumblr_mkk2owRRln1rtln9oo1_500.gif

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, I can see why.

I think the point Sin's trying to make was fine, striking him won't achieve much, so Jen will just pick Slade up and try and rip him apart.

Like she's done so with so many opponents.

Stoic is talking about her rolling him up in the ground, or burying him- again,the usual go to tactic for Jen.

As opposed to just...punching. Like she normally does.

If punching didn't work, she'd resort to other methods. I also never said anything about her physically attacking as much as being able to be fast enough to use her environment against DS. I also never said anything about her being more tactically sound than he is. Just that she has enough power to put her tactics into action. Slade also isn't grabbing Jen out of the sky as if he were on her level of strength. He isn't/ Her travelling speed while jumping exceeds his by a lot, so making spce for herself to operate, wouldn't be outside of the question. She Hulk has used the environment in her fights many times. Most of the time she punches.

Are we to assume that SH is going into this without any knowledge of what this suit is capable of? If she has general knowledge of the suits capabilities, she isn't dumb enough to try punching him.

SH is faster when it comes to traveling speeds. DS has the moves and veteran combat ability on his side, as well as his suit and weapons. He is not a flyer. SH has terrain advantage due to her ability to leap great distances beyond his ability to match.

Her lifting strength is far greater than his.


I'm saying that she has a decent chance of trapping and pinning him for the win.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She could get wins that way, tbf. I'm in agreement.

I just don't think she would get the majority here. Same as with Logan, except Logan could get BFRd with a punch, whereas Slade would still be in range, with his sword.

What? But She Hulk can use an oak tree like a baseball bat. Who has the long reach now buddy?

I'm pretty sure it's a featureless environment.....not sure where oak trees come in.

Standard knowledge is what the general populace of DC Earth knows.....if you think they all know about the Ikon suit, fair enough.

Oh man, we're at the 'general knowledge' stage. doh

Well, I didn't want to bring it up lol. But considering even amongst us comic fans, it's not general knowledge as to it's capabilities....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm pretty sure it's a featureless environment.....not sure where oak trees come in.

Standard knowledge is what the general populace of DC Earth knows.....if you think they all know about the Ikon suit, fair enough.

So in other words DS has all of these weapons and you'd imagine that SH in this case has none? In that case the IKon suit on DS wins in an empty environment, but not so much if there were actual weapons that SH could use. DS talks about his tech so it wouldn't be long before she caught on.

One thing that bugs me about forum matches comes down to the attempts at limiting characters that are being argued against. Something which you decided to do.

In a real comic book battle there would be an environment, Just like in a real everyday fight there would be an environment. To win this, SH would have to be robbed of one of her greatest weapons, which is using her environment as a weapon.

Wait what?

It's a standard forum rule. You're the one adding oak trees...why not assume it's in a desert? The Arctic? Middle of the ocean ? Why an oak not an Ash tree? What about a pine tree? How about a space station in geosynchronous orbit around Jupiter? France in 1457?

This is not a comic fight. It's a forum fight. I'm not attempting to limit anything. You're the one adding stuff, lol, to aid She Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait what?

It's a standard forum rule. You're the one adding oak trees...why not assume it's in a desert? The Arctic? Middle of the ocean ? Why an oak not an Ash tree? What about a pine tree? How about a space station in geosynchronous orbit around Jupiter? France in 1457?

This is not a comic fight. It's a forum fight. I'm not attempting to limit anything. You're the one adding stuff, lol, to aid She Hulk.

^^^Yeah, it took me awhile to catch on to forum rules here.

That said, they CAN be twisted by certain ppl to their advantage, which is why i made the 'common knowledge' comment.

And that's fair enough.

But as Stoic has actually come out and said it's Jen's biggest weapon in this fight (despite being a Hulk etc), that's speaks volumes.

I remember when Dark argued against me when I brought up the battle field being featureless. Asked me to look in the rules and find that.

Rules state they're on an equal playing field.

Jen having an advantage due to oak trees (lol) kinda...negates that

Keep trying

Edit: it's like coming into a Hydroman vs Sandman thread...and assuming it takes place in the Saharan desert.

Because reasons.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And that's fair enough.

But as Stoic has actually come out and said it's Jen's biggest weapon in this fight (despite being a Hulk etc), that's speaks volumes.
Ha, too true!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Rules state they're on an equal playing field.

Jen having an advantage due to oak trees (lol) kinda...negates that

Keep trying

Edit: it's like coming into a Hydroman vs Sandman thread...and assuming it takes place in the Saharan desert.

Because reasons.


What limits does the suit have? It appears woefully under represented for the hype.

Superman seemed to be testing it's limits, but then it was OK with going 9200% or whatever it was past it's limits,so I don't know how useful that is.

And how do you mean under represented? So far when it's used,Slade's been hurt by 30th C metal with exotic properties....that's it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

And how do you mean under represented? So far when it's used,Slade's been hurt by 30th C metal with exotic properties....that's it.

Under reprensented as in i havent seen alot of its capabilities other than the supes scene. But thats my fault, really dont keep up with Slade.

Oh yeah,it's only been 11 or so issues of DS,and he had lost it for a couple of issues (then got it back).