Darth Vader vs. Dread Masters

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Geistalt
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Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?

Azronger
Vader stomps

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?
Nothing.

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?
The same thing that both strike teams of randoms that took down the Dread Masters had.

slayne
Dread Masters obliterate him.

thesithmaster
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
What does vader have in terms of telepathy/willpower?

Vader did will himself to live at one point. That's pretty potent willpower.

For telepathy, he broke the telepathic defenses of ROTJ Luke, an extremely powerful Jedi who has some telepathic feats shortly after ROTJ (see Nova's Respect Thread). That's his impressive feat. He has some others but to my knowledge nothing over the top amazing.

carthage
Vader revives himself by sheer will from the point of death, resists the Visions in his quest to transform his light saber, and through sheer will power brings his armor/life support systems back after Cyclo shuts them down

Pretty sure he has better willpower/TP resistance than fodder TOR characters

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by carthage
Vader revives himself by sheer will from the point of death, resists the Visions in his quest to transform his light saber, and through sheer will power brings his armor/life support systems back after Cyclo shuts them down

Pretty sure he has better willpower/TP resistance than fodder TOR characters
Oh, we're doing Canon?

Deronn_solo
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nothing.


What? Off the top of my head, Vader has,

- kept himself alive via sheer willpower
- disspeled Pavan's illusions
- taught Kharys the ability to conjure doubt and mentally vitiate opponents -during combat - as evident in her fight against neophyte Luke
- forcefully pulled info from Luke's mind
- telepathically sensed Starkiller's thoughts while being lightyears away

nfactor1995
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The same thing that both strike teams of randoms that took down the Dread Masters had.

Yeah, the protags are just a bunch of "randoms" I guess

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Dread Masters.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Yeah, the protags are just a bunch of "randoms" I guess
Compared to Vader? That's what they are

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What? Off the top of my head, Vader has,
- telepathically sensed Starkiller's thoughts while being lightyears away
Mind posting?

Azronger
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What? Off the top of my head, Vader has,

- kept himself alive via sheer willpower
- disspeled Pavan's illusions
- taught Kharys the ability to conjure doubt and mentally vitiate opponents -during combat - as evident in her fight against neophyte Luke
- forcefully pulled info from Luke's mind
- telepathically sensed Starkiller's thoughts while being lightyears away

He has also been able to project his thoughts across the galaxy to RotJ Luke, and almost mind dominated ESB Luke. In Canon, Ahsoka was overwhelmed by merely touching his mind, similar to how Scourge was when he touched Vitiate's.

Vader's got plenty of willpower. No clue what Ant is on.

SunRazer
Yeah, and even if it was only Legends, Vader doesn't have nothing. kek

MythLord
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Luke, an extremely powerful Jedi who has some telepathic feats shortly after ROTJ (see Nova's Respect Thread).

Mine is better. sad

And it shows a lot more telepathic abilities of Luke, even pre-ESB.

DarthAnt66
Telepathy and willpower aren't interchangeable.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Deronn_solo
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Telepathy and willpower aren't interchangeable.

The latter, clearly correlates with the former, to a very sizable extent.

DarthAnt66
Eh, I'd need some definitive proof for a correlation.

And I do hope there is some, given how beneficial that would be for Revan.

For DM vs Vader, the DM were downing the Hero from across the galaxy with TP.

Deronn_solo
I think you can have powerful willpower and not per-se be a powerful telepathy, but I don't think it's possible you can have good tp and not have good willpower, too.

Sources such Dark Journey directly correlated Kyp Durron's telepathic ability with that of his willpower.

As for the fight, Vader obvs loses.

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