Battle of the Five Armies (Lotr) vs. Game of Thrones (mainly season 7)

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quanchi112
I the one and only quanchi112 will command the forces of the Lord of the Ring versus the Game of Thrones forces commanded by Josh Alexander. We have a fictional basic map of the terrain in which this war takes place. Each side has three days prep time but we can't mass produce or increase our weaponry, forces, resources, etc. The goal is the domination, annihilation, or complete conquest of the opposition. In the next post Josh will post our basic fictional map which details where this battle takes place.


Lotr forces : Estimated strength of the Dwarves, Elves, and Men:

**10,000 Silvan Elves of Mirkwood
**7,000 Dwarves of the Iron Hills
**3,000 Lake-town Militia (including 1000-1500 Lake-town Civilians)
**10 Great Eagles
**2 Wizards
**1 Beorning
**1 Hobbit

Estimated strength of Azog's army:
**50,000 Guldur Orcs
**25,000 Gundabad Orcs
**40 Orc Berserkers
**100 Wargs
**900 Gundabad Bats
**100 Goblin Mercenaries
**30 Trolls and Olog-hai
**12 Ogres
**3 Were-worms

I also have all the other characters from the third Hobbit film not participating in the final battle such as Sauron, Galadriel, Smaug, Saruman, Elrond, etc. They are as they appear in the film. This also includes all the hobbits from the Shire at the end of the film.

GoT forces : GOT SEASON 7 COMBINED FORCES.

**65000 Shields main force (Stark and Lannister)
**25000 Shields as reserve (Minor Houses)

**2000 Archers on field (From House Tyrel, and in addition of other houses)

**220 Catapults
**400 Scorpions (Some equiped with Dragon Killer Arrows)

**500 Ships from the Greyjoy Armada (Each Equipped with their respective fire catapults as seen in the series. As well as 150 man in each boat. Archers and fighters)

Following Numbers don't take part of the main force:

**10000 Dothraki warriors
**5000 Unsullied
**3 dragons. 1 is dead.

**100K Undead
**15 Giants
**100 Wolves
**30 Mammoths
**15 Bears

**40 White Walkers.

All major characters of season seven of Game of Thrones will take part.

quanchi112
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Ship's Catapult distance should be able to reach up to the Forest area....And cover all the Flat lands if backed by evidence to cover such a distance.

Josh_Alexander
Everything seems about ready to go...

Now.

My buildings....

Casterly rock will have within it's walls.

50 Catapults
40 Scorpions (Some will have DK arrows)

My fort will have within its walls:

50 Catapults
70 Scorpions (Some will have DK arrows)

Each Building will have 300 of the 2K Archers for defence.


The rest of the troops will be assigned to the map as things progress


I SAY WE: GET READY FOR RUMMMMBLEEEEEEE!

Josh_Alexander
Create quick story why did the war commence in the first place so we can have a motive to KILL haahaha.

Josh_Alexander
Now people. We are gonna have 2 of the BEST Fictional Armies face each other. GOT (SEASON 7 ONLY) vs LoTR: Battle Of The 5 Armies movie forces.

Everything started when me Josh_Alexander aka The Living Tribunal laughing out loud Was Watching every reality of KMC forums. I noticed that a certain Watcher: Quanchi broke the cosmic balance by saying that LoTR would win. I completly disagreed and decided along with Quanchi to create a Battle Zone (Map shown above) to test this out!

On one side we got LoTR, which is looking to keep it's supremacy as one of the Mightiest Fictional Armies.

On the other side we got GOT. Which got its S7 war interupted by LoTR threat. They've decided to combine forces to defeat a COMMON enemy.

Who is gonna win? We will see that soon!

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Each side has three days prep


3 days. Quanchi. State what you will do in those three days.

quanchi112
Sauron sensed a threat to his lands. He quickly implores Azog the Defiler to mow these new foreign invaders down. The Night King senses new bodies for his forces. Each side has a grand council to determine what course of action to best take. A temporary alliance is struck between the enemies of Sauron and the Night King to deal with the Devils they know as opposed to the ones they don't.


Rivalries are put aside while both attempt to exterminate the others before resuming their long standing feuds. We begin where they left off. The councils are finished. Each side now has three days to prepare for the coming of the long night of the ring. What happens next is the story of the winter meeting the one ring to rule them all.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron sensed a threat to his lands. He quickly implores Azog the Defiler to mow these new foreign invaders down. The Night King senses new bodies for his forces. Each side has a grand council to determine what course of action to best take. A temporary alliance is struck between the enemies of Sauron and the Night King to deal with the Devils they know as opposed to the ones they don't.


Rivalries are put aside while both attempt to exterminate the others before resuming their long standing feuds. We begin where they left off. The councils are finished. Each side now has three days to prepare for the coming of the long night of the ring. What happens next is the story of the winter meeting the one ring to rule them all.

Can't Agree more. Good one. I also did my own version laughing out loud .

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
3 days. Quanchi. State what you will do in those three days.

Now what will your actions be in those 3 days of prep?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Now what will your actions be in those 3 days of prep? To create underground tunnels with the Were Worms for points of convenience and entry for my forces when the war begins.

quanchi112
Lonely Mountain: forces within

3,000 Lake-town Militia (including 1000-1500 Lake-town Civilians)
10 Great Eagles
Smaug
All hobbits
100 Goblin mercenaries
Sauron, Galadriel, Saruman, Elrond, Nazgul
500 dwarves of 7,000
500 of 10,000 Silvan Elves
3 Were Worms


Fort: forces within

Gandalf
1,500 dwarves(leaves 5,000 dwarves)
2,500 Elves ( leaves 7,000 Elves)
100 Gunbad bats (leaves 800)
25 percent of the dwarf war machines
Beorn (skinchanger)


Granted this is how things start out of the gate. I can obviously change pieces here as the war dictates.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
To create underground tunnels with the Were Worms for points of convenience and entry for my forces when the war begins.

Cercei and Tyrion got valuable intel of the Enemies' forts, Troops, and latest movements by Bran.

Bran is using several methods to spy on the enemies' armies and movements. (Animals and trees were warged. Bran Traveled to the past to have a better understanding of the different Races in LoTR and find weaknesses) All intel is being notified to Cercei and Tyrion.


Cercei and Tyrion have evaluated the terrain's and work on a strategy.

Jon and Jaime are preparing their soldiers.


The left Catapults and Scorpions were shared within the different armies. (the exact numbers will be given when the battle starts).

50 Scorpions were given to random ships of the Grayjoy's Armada. Dragon Killer Arrows were also given. An specific order was given by Daenery's. The only dragons alive are her Children!

Josh_Alexander
Shall we start saying how our troops will be located?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Cercei and Tyrion got valuable intel of the Enemies' forts, Troops, and latest movements by Bran.

Bran is using several methods to spy on the enemies' armies and movements. (Animals and trees were warged. Bran Traveled to the past to have a better understanding of the different Races in LoTR and find weaknesses) All intel is being notified to Cercei and Tyrion.


Cercei and Tyrion have evaluated the terrain's and work on a strategy.

Jon and Jaime are preparing their soldiers.


The left Catapults and Scorpions were shared within the different armies. (the exact numbers will be given when the battle starts).

50 Scorpions were given to random ships of the Grayjoy's Armada. Dragon Killer Arrows were also given. An specific order was given by Daenery's. The only dragons alive are her Children! Well Azog and Sauron are gaining valuable intel from the animals through Radagast. Sauron is using cloaking magic on the mountain and the fort though as seen in the film. You'll have to travel there to break the enchantments in person as Gandalf had to do to break through.

Azog has full charge of the deployment of the orcs and their armies in how he sees best fit to decimate the foreign trespassers. Thranduil, Thorin, and Dain the Ironfoot are coordinating with Azog in how to best coordinate their remaining forces to aid him.


The conclusion thus far is to attack the Night King and decimate their dragons. Sauron knows this will demoralize the enemy as their big pieces will be taken off the board.

We are ready.


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quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Shall we start saying how our troops will be located? Be my guest.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Well Azog and Sauron are gaining valuable intel from the animals through Radagast. Sauron is using cloaking magic on the mountain and the fort though as seen in the film. You'll have to travel there to break the enchantments in person as Gandalf had to do to break through.

Azog has full charge of the deployment of the orcs and their armies in how he sees best fit to decimate the foreign trespassers. Thranduil, Thorin, and Dain the Ironfoot are coordinating with Azog in how to best coordinate their remaining forces to aid him.


The conclusion thus far is to attack the Night King and decimate their dragons. Sauron knows this will demoralize the enemy as their big pieces will be taken off the board.

We are ready.


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Bran has felt this magic on the top. He has also been able to warg on a couple of Azog's troops and found out the latest commands.

The Night King has been inform on they threat on him. He is aware of Sauron's plans.

Jaime and Jon are coordinating the troops

We are ready.

Now. Azog will command the elfs and dwarfs and others?

Okay say how will your troops be placed. And i will say mine.

(Meaning how much troops in your castle. And how much in your fort)

The directions of their movements will be discussed when we start the battle.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Bran has felt this magic on the top. He has also been able to warg on a couple of Azog's troops and found out the latest commands.

The Night King has been inform on they threat on him. He is aware of Sauron's plans.

Jaime and Jon are coordinating the troops

We are ready.

Now. Azog will command the elfs and dwarfs and others?

Okay say how will your troops be placed. And i will say mine.

(Meaning how much troops in your castle. And how much in your fort)

The directions of their movements will be discussed when we start the battle. None of the orcs are above land outside the protective spells. Tgis means they are underground outside his crows vision.

They are assisting him and coordinating their efforts. Azog is in charge of the orcs while they maintain control of their own forces.

I already gave the numbers in my castle and fort at the onset. That can change depending on your actions but the rest aren't playing possum in either base of mine.

By all means proceed with your forces and begin the war.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
None of the orcs are above land outside the protective spells. Tgis means they are underground outside his crows vision.

They are assisting him and coordinating their efforts. Azog is in charge of the orcs while they maintain control of their own forces.

I already gave the numbers in my castle and fort at the onset. That can change depending on your actions but the rest aren't playing possum in either base of mine.

By all means proceed with your forces and begin the war.

Okay am gonna need you to outline where exactly that shield is. How much distance it is cover so i can validate that info. And see what to do.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
None of the orcs are above land outside the protective spells. Tgis means they are underground outside his crows vision.

They are assisting him and coordinating their efforts. Azog is in charge of the orcs while they maintain control of their own forces.

I already gave the numbers in my castle and fort at the onset. That can change depending on your actions but the rest aren't playing possum in either base of mine.

By all means proceed with your forces and begin the war.

The fort too!!? Can the Shield be that large?

Is it factible?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Be my guest.

Okay this is what is going on:

The Hound was able to look in the fires...The Lord of Light casted him a vision. He was able to predict where ONE of the Earthworms is gonna pop out. So that means that i am going to know the location of where one of those Earth Worms is gonna come out...


Jaime and Jon have 65K troops 700m from the Forest.They are carrying 50 Catapults, and 100 Scorpions with DK arrows. On the side of the our fort..Should you decided to send people through the forests. There is a portion of clear area in between, so if you decide to move, they'll notice.
200 Ships are up that river. They are ready to back up should land forces be depicted. Those Catapults can shoot anywhere in that forest. But the High Lands are clear.

The Night King has ordered 1000 Dead to disperse everywhere in the map, except into the shield. They are watching everything. Ready to report any movement.
-Also the Night King has ordered for 30k Dead to move - where to should be unknown to you - else prove how will your troops know.

Dany's Dragons are at Casterly Rock. The Unsullied remain there as well as the Dothraki. They are the defence.

The Rest of the Ships are at Casterly Rock's coasts to defend too.

The remaining archers move with the Main Force.

*Remember that the White Walkers can sense the living. So any body located outside that shield will be detected by the walkers. Even the worms.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The fort too!!? Can the Shield be that large?

Is it factible?

Also are physical threats are limmited to this? Or only magical?

quanchi112
Smaug will set fire to the high lands from the outer boundary on the map from to the edge of the forest to the right. That entire outer boundary will be set ablaze by Smaug making any entering party have to go through a choke point or deal with the fires caused by Smaug.

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The hobbits immediately disperse save Bilbo from the Lonely Mountain to spy on all the lands occupied by the Lotr forces. So 50 percent of the hobbits will be spread throughout the high lands. 25 percent will remain on the mountain. The other 25 percent will be near the forest spread throughout that land to alert them of any activity.


1. Azog forces will move his legion of orcs close to the boundary and mid way through to the fort. His forces include **25,000 Gundabad orcs, **50 wargs (50 left), **20 Orc Beserkers (20 left), **400 Gundabad bats (400 left), **15 trolls and Olog-hai(15 left), and ** 6 Ogres (6 left).

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2. Thranduil forces will move his to the right of Azog's forces. The remaining **7,000 Elves will be under his command save Legolas and Andruil.

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3. Dain's forces will move to assist Thranduil's forces to the right. These separate forces aligned to assist each other and attack from three different fronts.
** 5,000 Dwarves with all the remaining war machines and goats. They also have half the mounted goat/ram cavalry with the other half at the fort.

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In response to your lord of light let Sauron answer this for me.


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Josh_Alexander
Map showing the Latest events of the Battle.


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Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Smaug will set fire to the high lands from the outer boundary on the map from to the edge of the forest to the right. That entire outer boundary will be set ablaze by Smaug making any entering party have to go through a choke point or deal with the fires caused by Smaug.

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The hobbits immediately disperse save Bilbo from the Lonely Mountain to spy on all the lands occupied by the Lotr forces. So 50 percent of the hobbits will be spread throughout the high lands. 25 percent will remain on the mountain. The other 25 percent will be near the forest spread throughout that land to alert them of any activity.


1. Azog forces will move his legion of orcs close to the boundary and mid way through to the fort. His forces include **25,000 Gundabad orcs, **50 wargs (50 left), **20 Orc Beserkers (20 left), **400 Gundabad bats (400 left), **15 trolls and Olog-hai(15 left), and ** 6 Ogres (6 left).

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2. Thranduil forces will move his to the right of Azog's forces. The remaining **7,000 Elves will be under his command save Legolas and Andruil.

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3. Dain's forces will move to assist Thranduil's forces to the right. These separate forces aligned to assist each other and attack from three different fronts.
** 5,000 Dwarves with all the remaining war machines and goats. They also have half the mounted goat/ram cavalry with the other half at the fort.

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In response to your lord of light let Sauron answer this for me.


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Bran has been able to spy on the latest maneuvers of the Enemy's forces. Immidiatly notifying all high orders.

Cercei and Tyrion have agreed on the following Counter Measures:

1> 10K Unsullied
3K Dothraki
30K Dead
5 Giants
30 Scorpions (Some carrying Dragon Killer arrows)
10 White Walkers
-Will move in the direction shown.

2>The 65K shields have decided to devide their Main forces into 3 Batallions to counter act the Enemie's manevouvers.
-30K troops for Jon and 30K for Jaime
-A line of 10k archers will support the main force from behind.
- In addition 20K troops are being lead by Ser Bronn. 15k From the 25K reserves went to support.
-60 Catapults were shared between the batallions, as well as 100 Scorpions (Some possess Dragon Killer Arrows)

3>The Night King has ordered:
-The division of this Armada as shown in the map.
-The 1000 dead spyes sent up are to make squadrons of 25. Orders were clear, "Kill any Hobbit in sight)

4>The Night King has invoked the Winds of Winter: Temperatures will lower to freezing point during the nights. Harsh conditions are expected. Snow will fall all over the High Mountains -meters deep-. No snow will fall where Sauron's shield is located, however temperatures there will fall to uncomfortable points.

5>Daenery's has acknowledge the importance of Calvary in the main front. As result 3K Horse Lords move to support the main front.

*** The Hound was shown to be effectively accurate in predicting where the Dead would be in season 7. Therefore, i must be granted with the Exact location where one of the Worms will pop.

***The Lord Of Light is considered a God. His visions aren't necessary magic. Therefore Sauron shouldn't be able to interfere in any fire vision.

Josh_Alexander
I need the exact location of that Shield.

Also i wouldn't expect the shield to cover the fort. I don't see it can cover that much.

Josh_Alexander
A little peak to what my forces look like:

The Lannisters:

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Catapults and Scorpions:


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(Unsullied also appreciated)


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The Dothraki (Mighty Horselords)



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The Army of the Dead:



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Josh_Alexander
Now Quanchi there is an error in your statement...You say that you sent your Hobbits to spy. But initially you only said there was 1 hobbit only...

Want to make a modification?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Now Quanchi there is an error in your statement...You say that you sent your Hobbits to spy. But initially you only said there was 1 hobbit only...

Want to make a modification? This is located at the end of the opening post to this thread. The numbers I had from the site only pertained to the Battle of the Five Armies that's why I pointed this out in my first post. All characters from the film and the Shire is shown at the end.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is located at the end of the opening post to this thread. The numbers I had from the site only pertained to the Battle of the Five Armies that's why I pointed this out in my first post. All characters from the film and the Shire is shown at the end.

Okay. How many hobbits are outside that shield? I mean, HM hobbits are Spying? I believe Half of them should die to my dead warriors!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Bran has been able to spy on the latest maneuvers of the Enemy's forces. Immidiatly notifying all high orders.

Cercei and Tyrion have agreed on the following Counter Measures:

1> 10K Unsullied
3K Dothraki
30K Dead
5 Giants
30 Scorpions (Some carrying Dragon Killer arrows)
10 White Walkers
-Will move in the direction shown.So you cross over the flames at your own peril. The hobbits remain hidden as best they can and retreat back to the mountain stronghold. You will cross unabated so far.
Our forces stand our ground while your forces amass. Your move.

I am pretty certain most of the hobbits are definitely quick and quiet enough to avoid the bulk of them. Their aim is to lead deeper and deeper.

It doesn't spread this quickly and I don't believe would spread with the same intensity the further the Night King is from the location. So the further away from the Night King the weaker his reach and intensity is. So you'll have to make a call here.

Lotr boldly allows you to bolster your ranks with the assistance of the horse lords.


Behind Casterly Rock is one of the tunnels. We created a tunnel per day. I feel that's fair so three secret tunnels. Be wary the tunnels are dug but we won't bust through any of them until we commit to one plan of attack. I didn't mean that as a literal preventing of the lord of light I merely meant to show you the darkness of Sauron has more weight to it. Figuratively saying your lord will succumb to the darkness.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay. How many hobbits are outside that shield? I mean, HM hobbits are Spying? I believe Half of them should die to my dead warriors! It depends on how many you catch. They are there to spy and for another purpose. They are small and remain hidden well. So while some will die some will also live.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you cross over the flames at your own peril. The hobbits remain hidden as best they can and retreat back to the mountain stronghold. You will cross unabated so far.
Our forces stand our ground while your forces amass. Your move.

The cold winds sent by NK have weakend the flames left by Smaug. The precise point where my troops will pass to the west is immediatly neutralized by the WW. My troops pass safely. The rest of the area is still shielded by your flames...That means that your own troops won't be able to pass there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am pretty certain most of the hobbits are definitely quick and quiet enough to avoid the bulk of them. Their aim is to lead deeper and deeper.

Assuming not all of them were able to hide i believe half of them should die. How much is that? Also, your troops don't know my dead were there in the first place. You shielded you troops behind that Protective shield. That means they couldn't know where my Dead spies were.

I believe 50% of the Hobbits is a fair and considerate number.

Originally posted by quanchi112 It doesn't spread this quickly and I don't believe would spread with the same intensity the further the Night King is from the location. So the further away from the Night King the weaker his reach and intensity is. So you'll have to make a call here.

You are right. But the thing is this. The High Altitude of the High Lands makes it easier for the Night King's spells to work. The temperatures there make it easier for snow to fall. I believe ALL HIGH MOUNTAINOUS AREAS should have snow and harsh conditions in the night. Except for the AREA where the protective spell is.

The High Lands should have winds and cold temperatures at night. Cold rain and hostile climate. Cause they are closer to the NK.

The areas near Casterly Rock are All Cover in snow! Nights near it will have Strong winds and snow will be deeper than in the day. NK is in Casterly Rock.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Lotr boldly allows you to bolster your ranks with the assistance of the horse lords.

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Originally posted by quanchi112 Behind Casterly Rock is one of the tunnels. We created a tunnel per day. I feel that's fair so three secret tunnels. Be wary the tunnels are dug but we won't bust through any of them until we commit to one plan of attack. I didn't mean that as a literal preventing of the lord of light I merely meant to show you the darkness of Sauron has more weight to it. Figuratively saying your lord will succumb to the darkness.

As i said. I should know the Exact location of where one of the Worms will pop out. The others will remain secret for now okay.

So this is what happens:

1st: The Hound predicted the exact location of where one of the Worms will pop out. He notified Cercei and Tyrion. The Night King was also informed.

It was a cold afternoon due to the NK summoning. The air was still...Out of a sudden the earth was shaking. Something was moving within it, breaking it, tearing it appart...Eventually a hole is made, and out of it a Colossal creature emerges from it...A Giant Worm...But he isn't alone!!!

5k Dead sorround the Whole. All of a sudden he feels pain all over his body. The worm tries to pull back but something is wrong...he can't escape. The Arrows were thick! The scorpions hit the target. "Longship Chains! A good amount of Mammoths and the bastard should come out". Lord Tyrion said laughing. 20 Mammoths pulled from 4 different chains.. Giants also aid the pulling....The Worm Came out entirely!

A malignant being unsaddles his horse...His eyes as cold as ice. Peaks pumping out of his head. One of his kind handles him a spear...but not any spear..an ice spear! The worm struggles to release himself...But Dead Mammoths hold still...His doom was certain.

An in that hour...The Dead Army claim another victim...another servant for the LONG NIGHT!

(I hope you enjoyed the story hahaha)

2nd: Tyrion has analyzed the situation. He knows Casterly Rock is in danger. The other holes could be anywhere. Cercei orders the remaining Iron Fleet to patrol the coastlines.

The remain 10K reserve troops are alerted. Casterly Rock must be defended. The Night King orders for his troops to return to Casterly rocks. Except for another Thousand Dead, which are to patrol all the Sorrounding lands for the search of these remaining 2 holes.

Bran sent 40 wolfs to patrol the areas sorrounding the castle in search of the holes too.

3rd: My main force waited until the 3K Dothraki Arrived.

Story of events:

"70K troops, and we still got to wait on mother****ing horse bitches!". Ser Bronn thought. They lay patiently waiting 100m outside the high lands forest area (As seen on map). And finally there were. The Dothraki had arrive. The troops moved (3 PM). Jaime was the main front. He had 30K troops. They were to hold the main force as much as possible. Jon was to try sorround the enemy by the right side with another 30K, and Bronn was to close the Death trap. Catapults and Scorpions were moved up too. Jaime wondered why the dead wouldn't follow... They were expected to reach the enemies troops arround 5 pm. After all those were heavy catapults.

Spies were sent north to monitor all movements. Ravens arrived from CR informing of the latest events. Jaime ordered the spies to notify of any tremours or shakes. Also, the 1000k Archers were notified to have their arrows ready if in case air attacks came. Furthermore, the Scorpions were loaded. Ready for any surprise.

Bran kept monitoring the Areas outside the Protective Shield.

How do you counter act?

Josh_Alexander
I made nice stories in my above reply so read carefully.

I still nead the location of that shield Quanchi. How far from your castle does it extend?

I don't agree that your fort should be shielded too! I believe it is too far from your Castle to be shielded.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I made nice stories in my above reply so read carefully.

I still nead the location of that shield Quanchi. How far from your castle does it extend?

I don't agree that your fort should be shielded too! I believe it is too far from your Castle to be shielded. Just the mountain strong hold is shielded. You can still see the location just not the activity within until you break the enchantments.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just the mountain strong hold is shielded. You can still see the location just not the activity within until you break the enchantments.

Agree. Saw my upper statement?

I wonder. My troops can still come in? I mean physcial things can cross the enchantments?

Also. How many troops you got in the fort? Just to be aware. And how many move with Azog and those near your fort?

Josh_Alexander
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quanchi112
A brief glimpse into the forces at play here besides the gifs you've already seen.

Azog's orc armies

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Dain II's dwarves of iron hills

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Dwarf war machines.

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Side by side comparison of the elves and dwarves.

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quanchi112
Thranduil's Silvan Elves of Mirkwood

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Coordinated attacks with the dwarves without any training and in the midst of sudden battle.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Agree. Saw my upper statement?

I wonder. My troops can still come in? I mean physcial things can cross the enchantments?

Also. How many troops you got in the fort? Just to be aware. And how many move with Azog and those near your fort? You need someone with magic to break through but they can't harm you and you can't harm them until someone brings down the enchantments.

Azog's forces will move his legion of orcs close to the boundary and mid way through to the fort. His forces include **25,000 Gundabad orcs, **50 wargs (50 left), **20 Orc Beserkers (20 left), **400 Gundabad bats (400 left), **15 trolls and Olog-hai(15 left), and ** 6 Ogres (6 left).

This is from a previous post.

quanchi112

quanchi112
4. **400 Gundabad Bats (400 are left). Since they have flight they close the distance far quicker than the land forces. Their goal is to primarily focus on the inner layers past the first wall into the center of the castle. Disrupting coordination and movement from anyone tasked with defense of Casterly Rock while the number one priority is the location of the Night King.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/62fe7be720e054c32abf85e14466ce56/tumblr_inline_nen08eEKCa1qd5yv1.gif

5. Bolg and his Guldur Orcs--Bolg leads **50,000 Guldur Orcs out of the north towards the weakened part of the fire towards the forces and to occupy another front to this major battle. **50 Wargs (0 left), **20 Orc Beserkers (0 left), **15 trolls and Olog-hai (0 left), and ** 6 Ogres (0 left. Their goal is to cut through whatever (1,000) stands in their way to also attack Casterly Rock. Reinforcements and an utterly enormous force.
**300 Gundabad bats(leaving 100 more) are also with them and take flight with this force and seek to overwhelm any siege type weapons present at the time of their arrival. They also attack anything with the ability to fly at the time of their arrival.

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6. **5 Great Eagles (5 are left)--are deployed from the mountain. They like the Gundabad bats are focusing on the center area of Casterly Rock looking for the Night King and to attack any pivotal leaders they find from a higher elevation.

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7. Smaug--also comes down from the mountain with his superior speed the moment the Night King is spotted. He is signaled by the war horns of Azog. When the Night King is discovered Smaug will come down to converge on him.
**4 Great Eagles (leaving 1 remaining on the Mountain stronghold) are deployed to accompany Smaug in case the GoT three dragons are deployed. Their purpose is to attack the dragons heads and those riding them.

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Conclusion: Casterly Rock and your insistence to have all your vital pieces in one position make this a no brainer. The war will be decided here. Once the Night King perishes you lose your ability to raise the dead and the majority of your forces with one dead dragon as the dessert. One death is that pivotal to this war. You also have all your dragons present with the mother of dragons here. She's not used to an opponent attacking from the sky. Level playing field.

quanchi112
Map:

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Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thranduil's Silvan Elves of Mirkwood

https://s20.postimg.org/iqq29yagt/image.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/4lk9851fh/image.jpg

Coordinated attacks with the dwarves without any training and in the midst of sudden battle.

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Very fearsome.

I need you to tell me the numbers of how many are moving with Azog's frontline, Thrundail, and Dane's frontlines. Give me numbers.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Very fearsome.

I need you to tell me the numbers of how many are moving with Azog's frontline, Thrundail, and Dane's frontlines. Give me numbers. 1. Azog's forces include **25,000 Gundabad orcs, **50 wargs (50 left), **20 Orc Beserkers (20 left), **400 Gundabad bats (400 left), **15 trolls and Olog-hai(15 left), and ** 6 Ogres (6 left).

2. Thranduil's forces the remaining **7,000 Elves will be under his command save Legolas and Tauriel.



3. Dain's forces
** 5,000 Dwarves with all the remaining war machines and goats. They also have half the mounted goat/ram cavalry with the other half at the fort.

Josh_Alexander

Josh_Alexander
Map showing latest events.

http://http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj531/Josh-Alexander/20170911_184925_zpsglk2nc3c.jpg

Josh_Alexander
correction. Snow won't be sorrounding the castle that deep. Also there won't be snow falling. Only strong winds, cold temperature, and snow on the surface.

Badabing
This is Impediment's forum by I was messaged to delete posts which don't belong. This is a battle zone and only Josh and Quan should be posting.

quanchi112
Assault begins

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1. Azog's forces emerge from his hole first. His orcs, wargs, trolls, and Ogres are the 1st wave rushing the walls and converging on any force in their path to secure the outer perimeter. Azog is at the back line giving commands and sounding his war horn when necessary. Primary focus is decimating the field of all opposing foes to secure the land outside of Casterly Rock.

2. Thranduil's forces emerge 3 minutes later. Thranduil is amidst the 2nd wave with the archers directing the timing and coordination of their highly skilled archers. Primary focus for the archers is the men lining the walls of Casterly Rock's defense in an elevated position.

3. Dain's forces emerge 10 minutes later. Dain is at the back line of the 3rd wave with his dwarf forces. Their primacy force is to assist Azog's forces and to destroy anyone opposing them on the battlefield.

The combined forces seek to form a horseshoe pattern around Casterly Rock. Orcs lead the charge in the first wave. Second wave is the dwarves and their goats. Third line is the elves lining up in formation launching arrows based on Thranduil's commands. The dwarf anti arrow ballistas are right alongside the third wave as well.

Behind them are the trolls geared up for rock tossing. They are primarily firing on the walls and past them of Casterly Rock to weaken the walls/structures and create as many points of entry as possible.

4. Gundabad bats (400 of 900) are attacking from the sky. Their primary goal is to overwhelm the enemy from the air above striking down farther down in Casterly rock's defenses that the arrows cannot reach. The Eagles are focusing on their leaders and on high alert for the Night King.

5. Bolg's forces are converging from the north and there to provide another front to back of the other combined forces. Their primary focus is clean up. Whatever remains wounded or behind is finished off with them also converging on Casterly Rock.

Gundabad Bats (300 leaving 200) coordinating from the sky along with his forces. Their primary focus is to swarm all the catapults, scorpions to either kill or disarm these weapons.

6. **Eagles (5 of 10) are deployed to assault all the catapults and scorpions.
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7. **Smaug and **Eagles (4 of 5) are deployed only if the Night King or any Game of Thrones dragons are spotted. If and when Smaug converges he peppers Casterly Rock and the defenses with fire and focuses on the destruction of the Night King and or all spotted dragons. The Eagles are tasked with attacking the dragon's heads and any dragon riders assisting Smaug on the battlefield.

quanchi112
Weaknesses of the GoT dragons

1. Still very young and not at full size
2. Not technically magic
3. Large animals with exploitable weaknesses and vulnerable points on their body

1:00-1:15 Drogon was able to expose his underside to protect himself and his rider due to certain points being thicker and harder to pierce than others.
These dragons use their hackles to increase their size to intimidate enemies. This alerts the viewers they have weaknesses. Only animals with vulnerabilities such as a cat against a bear in nature. Bears don't need to intimidate a cat because there's no need or insecurity to do so since there's no chance a house cat would win. A cat needs to inflate itself and its chances against a bear because it doesn't have a chance due to how these animals match up against each other. That's a figurative example and not meant to be taken as a literal example but the point is clear. The larger more durable dragon Smaug won't seek these beta male tendencies that's reserved for the weaker GoT dragons that mirror smaller animals in the real world.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p1gxZuc-KeE

Conclusion: These dragons are nowhere near as durable as Smaug is portrayed nor does he show the inferior animal hackles defense to intimidate his adversaries. Smaug is also far greater in size and has shown human like intelligence through his reasoning, communication, and on screen interactions. Advantage: Lotr.

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