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No prep.
No BFR.

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Quicksilver should, but in a comic Wolverine would.

Cool pics of both characters

99% of the time, QS should win. If Wolverine gets lucky with just one hit, it's all over for QS though.

speed demon got tagged cuz he was predictable by logan, but logan couldn't do anything but take a beating until he finally landed one solid shot. qs is faster than sd and smarter. logan would need to get lucky or qs would need to be sloppy. if not, qs murders him.

Originally posted by leonidas
speed demon got tagged cuz he was predictable by logan, but logan couldn't do anything but take a beating until he finally landed one solid shot. qs is faster than sd and smarter. logan would need to get lucky or qs would need to be sloppy. if not, qs murders him.

You talking about that Death Cage Match where Little Jimmy put back on his Patch Persona to go fight Mr X in that Singapore Rip Place in the X books?

Saw a scan at HC of QS taking it to some guy named Mr. X, who i guess can predict your moves before you make them.
Didnt much help.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
You talking about that Death Cage Match where Little Jimmy put back on his Patch Persona to go fight Mr X in that Singapore Rip Place in the X books? http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3239576-25.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75188/2351323-thunderbolts_143___quicksilver1.jpg

GG

^^^yeah, thats the scan.

Originally posted by Damborgson
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75188/2351323-thunderbolts_143___quicksilver1.jpg

GG

Same QS that has moved faster than radio waves

He can't pick up any weapons here, so he needs to target areas that are not protected by the adamantium skeleton.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Quicksilver should, but in a comic Wolverine would.

Agreed.

http://tinyurl.com/y9rt4fwr

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162100/3907715-3747216-gladiator.jpg

Surprised they havent faced each other

Two arrogant bastards.
Seems a natural.

That scene with kid gladiator is so satisfying.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Same QS that has moved faster than radio waves

He can't pick up any weapons here, so he needs to target areas that are not protected by the adamantium skeleton.



Agreed.

http://tinyurl.com/y9rt4fwr

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162100/3907715-3747216-gladiator.jpg

Wow...Strontians look like real wimps.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That scene with kid gladiator is so satisfying.
Which part?
Him taking down QS, or getting taken down by Wolvie?

Getting stabbed by Wolvie

^^^

Originally posted by Damborgson
Getting stabbed by Wolvie

Did he stab him? It never shows Little Jimmy popping his claws?

It gives the the impression that he more PINCHED him in the right place that Stabbed him.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Getting stabbed by Wolvie

He wasn't stabbed - it was a nerve strike. Wolverine used a single finger to knock him the f*ck out.

Of course, Bachalo's art leaves much to be desired, as always.

Dont think i've ever liked his art in the sequential sense.
He's hard to follow.
He's done some stand alone pieces i've dug on.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Same QS that has moved faster than radio waves

He can't pick up any weapons here, so he needs to target areas that are not protected by the adamantium skeleton.



Agreed.

http://tinyurl.com/y9rt4fwr

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162100/3907715-3747216-gladiator.jpg

Amazing speed showing for Kid Gladiator.

Originally posted by leonidas
speed demon got tagged cuz he was predictable by logan, but logan couldn't do anything but take a beating until he finally landed one solid shot. qs is faster than sd and smarter. logan would need to get lucky or qs would need to be sloppy. if not, qs murders him.

It doesnt matter if someone's attacks are predictable if you are too slow to see them. The Speed Demon fight was terribly written PIS.

Wolverine putting his elbow out in slow mo to tag SD would have prompted SD to simply move out of the way. SD's reflexes cant be slower than his speed because then he wouldnt be able to handle his speed and just run into everything.

The only way that fight works is if speed demon was only marginally faster than logan. Like a fast boxer vs slow boxer situation.

But wolverine implied he could barely see SD and put out an elbow in the hopes that he would hit SD based on his predictable attack pattern thus far.

oh i agree, just going by the way the fight has been explained. in reality, speed differences of this level should never be able to be overcome. but we can't ignore every showing of speedsters getting hit, so.... /shrug

Speedsters see everything in slow motion.

Pick any random fight on youtube, and put it on 0.25x. You'd be able to beat McGregor.

Now, imagine speedsters see 0.25*0.25*(...)*0.25.

Any non-speedster is a statue.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. This is true even for Marvel (thank you Gruenwald). But let's face it, if all writers followed that rule, Speedsters would win close to 100% of the fights they were in (which would make for boring stories).

It's why the forum has a no PIS rule - the fact that it's 95% of speedsters showings is just the way the medium works. We're not writing stories on the forum, where we need to keep it competitive.

Both Spiderman and Cap see bullets at a standstill. Don't think anyone here would consider either speedsters.

Originally posted by carver9
Both Spiderman and Cap see bullets at a standstill. Don't think anyone here would consider either speedsters. I don't think you know what standstill means, retard.

Whats your definition of standstill? It appears I hurt your feelings.

Every reply of yours makes threads dumber. The only thing hurting are the brains of the people reading your gibberish.

Bullets aren't at a standstill to Cap or Spiderman. I don't have a personal definition of the term, it's in the dictionary, retard.

What does your posts do for a thread?

So you full aware of everyone Spiderman showing.

Originally posted by carver9
So you full aware of everyone Spiderman showing. What's with this sentence, did you drop that dictionary on your head?

Go a stand still in the corner, moron.

Again, are you aware of every showing of Spiderman? I dont have to spell check or review my grammar here. I am not writing an essay.

I thought they only saw them move slower than us nornals, NOT standstill. Which is completely different.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought they only saw them move slower than us nornals, NOT standstill. Which is completely different. Carver has his own words, with subjective definitions.

2+2=5, if 5 is not really 5.

Carver, this is what we are talking about :
https://s26.postimg.org/ir0tm6j6t/3795053-quasar_58.8.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/8i8cgcv51/3795052-quasar_58.9.jpg
To a true speedster, non-speedsters look like they are frozen in time.

Originally posted by zopzop
Carver, this is what we are talking about :
https://s26.postimg.org/ir0tm6j6t/3795053-quasar_58.8.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/8i8cgcv51/3795052-quasar_58.9.jpg
To a true speedster, non-speedsters look like they are frozen in time.

He won't get it.

I've shown him scans of Superman, as Clark Kent, overcoming time dilation where everyones slowed to a statue, and days and nights pass in seconds, and he kept going on about "combat speed" or some shit. As if it only counts if they hit someone.

And that is a great feat for Grandmaster.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
But wolverine implied he could barely see SD and put out an elbow in the hopes that he would hit SD based on his predictable attack pattern thus far.

Remember, Gambit and Spider-Man did pretty much the same thing to Quicksilver - worked just as good, if not better.

Then you have Deathstroke raping Flash orally & anally w/o lube each time he sets his eyes on him...

Originally posted by zopzop
Carver, this is what we are talking about :
https://s26.postimg.org/ir0tm6j6t/3795053-quasar_58.8.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/8i8cgcv51/3795052-quasar_58.9.jpg
To a true speedster, non-speedsters look like they are frozen in time.

Naah, that isn't the scene. Philo is an a**hole by the way. Grow up.

Originally posted by carver9
Philo is an a**hole by the way. Grow up.

http://www.tissue.com.hk/Home_pic/pic2.jpg

Man up, Forrest.

I think this is the showing

Originally posted by carver9
If anyone is interested in her appearance during this scene, here you go. She was moving in a blur...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47738/1162287-x23pic.jpg

Wolverine slices QS in little super-fast pieces ! mouhahahaha !

Thought this thread was at a standstill.

Wouldn't Pietro break his hands if he punched Wolverine at super speed?

Originally posted by Stoic
Wouldn't Pietro break his hands if he punched Wolverine at super speed?

Not if he punches him in the stomach.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Not if he punches him in the stomach.

But wouldn't Wolverine instinctively block up if he were getting tagged by him? I have no problem with Pietro beating another character like Wolverine, and could see him punching Wild Child, Laura, or Creed out, but the Adamantium puts Wolverine on a much higher level in terms of physical durability unless of course Pietro's speed made him more durable than Adamantium.

Would depend on what Speed Levels the version of QS is being used. Not seeing what good it would do for Little Jimmy to try and block if Petey has already landed a couple thousand blows to the soft under belly.

It would not surprise me if QS' hands turned to bloody stumps punching Logan in the face.

He would stop way before it got to that point.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wouldn't Pietro break his hands if he punched Wolverine at super speed?
His hands were just fine after pummeling Iron Man to his knees :
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Was back from when Tony was barely B List?

Top of the C maybe?

Originally posted by zopzop
His hands were just fine after pummeling Iron Man to his knees :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111147613/4147462-2.jpg

Not trying to discredit QS, but there are times that writers don't take many things into consideration. After Adamantium was bonded to Wolverine he jumped up a few weight classes due to toughness alone. If it has no effect on him, then it's lights out for Wolverine. Do you remember Ultimate QS trying to catch a bullet, and what happened to him?

Originally posted by zopzop
Carver, this is what we are talking about :
https://s26.postimg.org/ir0tm6j6t/3795053-quasar_58.8.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/8i8cgcv51/3795052-quasar_58.9.jpg
To a true speedster, non-speedsters look like they are frozen in time.

You should show that to h1. That sufficient power and control over space/time trumps super-speed and allows one to operate at hyper speed levels.

Originally posted by zopzop
His hands were just fine after pummeling Iron Man to his knees :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111147613/4147462-2.jpg

Quicksilver and aurora you mean

Originally posted by Stoic
Not trying to discredit QS, but there are times that writers don't take many things into consideration. After Adamantium was bonded to Wolverine he jumped up a few weight classes due to toughness alone. If it has no effect on him, then it's lights out for Wolverine. Do you remember Ultimate QS trying to catch a bullet, and what happened to him?
Ultimate QS is an alt-reality QS no? Here is 616 QS again demolishing an armored opponent, the High Evolutionary :
https://i.imgur.com/gHz5uCc.png
His hands were just fine here too

That HE tanked attacks from Rogue, who was amped at the time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That HE tanked attacks from Rogue, who was amped at the time.
Yup. She had Wonder Man's power I think. So QS should have no problem punching Wolverine without injuring himself.

qs has skin that is more durable than a normal person's. in fact he has some very good durability showings. his hands would be fine beating down logan, same as most street's hands are fine. he also has a healing factor of his own that would mitigate the blows. if we play pure forum rules, qs makes short work of him. /shrug

^^^i've been thinking this since about half through page 1. I did have questions starting out, though.

Originally posted by zopzop
His hands were just fine after pummeling Iron Man to his knees :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111147613/4147462-2.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop
Ultimate QS is an alt-reality QS no? Here is 616 QS again demolishing an armored opponent, the High Evolutionary :

His hands were just fine here too

Yeah, but adamantium made short work of both Modular IM suit and HE armor...

^^^that makes no sense.
Wolverine's bones arent attacking QS.

While QS' body has a degree of super-durability, I wouldn't put him above the likes of Warpath or Creed, both hurt themselves when punching Logan.

Maybe it was the way you phrased it.