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No surprise, as I said in another thread, he and Trump have known each other and likely had a personal rapport for decades.

Originally posted by Sable
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That is just amusing. Trump literally put out ads attacking Schumer and Pelosi recently lol.

Because **** core values. Just go where the wind blows, whatever keeps you in power.

Originally posted by cdtm
Because **** core values. Just go where the wind blows, whatever keeps you in power.

And I really interpret what he is saying as "step to the left whenever it is something we want".

If I was Trump I would have asked him to give one example of when stepping to the right was needed and see what he says.

"Here's what I told him," Schumer continues. "I said: 'Mr. President, you're much better off if you can sometimes step right and sometimes step left. If you have to step just in one direction, you're boxed.' He gets that." -snip

Really, this rather sensible and benign "leave yourself open to different ideas" type of comment is what has you Trumpers flipping out? Lolz,

Fact: You people knew exactly what you were buying when voted and supported Trump; as President Trump is exactly like candidate Trump. So don't cry now; it makes you look even more pathetic. Chin up.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Here's what I told him," Schumer continues. "I said: 'Mr. President, you're much better off if you can sometimes step right and sometimes step left. If you have to step just in one direction, you're boxed.' He gets that." -snip

Really, this rather sensible and benign "leave yourself open to different ideas" type of comment is what has you Trumpers flipping out? Lolz,

Fact: You people knew exactly what you were buying when voted and supported Trump; as President Trump is exactly like candidate Trump. So don't cry now; it makes you look even more pathetic. Chin up.

Who is flipping out here?

^ Proves my point

Chucky is a RINO POS.

Been saying that for years.

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Proves my point

So you say people are flipping out and I ask you who and it proves a point? Okay Rob, then we're going to breakdown every post. Sable posted a link and nothing else so he wasn't flipping out. Backfire didn't say anything that could be considered flipping out. I myself called it amusing. CDTM said: "Because **** core values. Just go where the wind blows, whatever keeps you in power."

Unless you consider the usage of the word f*ck to be a sign of flipping out...explain yourself.

Originally posted by Surtur
So you say people are flipping out and I ask you who and it proves a point? Okay Rob, then we're going to breakdown every post. Sable posted a link and nothing else so he wasn't flipping out. Backfire didn't say anything that could be considered flipping out. I myself called it amusing. CDTM said: "Because **** core values. Just go where the wind blows, whatever keeps you in power."

Unless you consider the usage of the word f*ck to be a sign of flipping out...explain yourself.

Of course it does. You can get banned on this site for things other people say you do.

WHERE YOU BEEN BRO?

Originally posted by Surtur
So you say people are flipping out and I ask you who and it proves a point? Okay Rob, then we're going to breakdown every post. Sable posted a link and nothing else so he wasn't flipping out. Backfire didn't say anything that could be considered flipping out. I myself called it amusing. CDTM said: "Because **** core values. Just go where the wind blows, whatever keeps you in power."

Unless you consider the usage of the word f*ck to be a sign of flipping out...explain yourself.

"I'm amused!" -Surtur
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So am I to understand that me saying I am amused equates to flipping out?

Robbie is offically out of ammo on this thread. He is falling back to the tired old Lefty Playbook.

I'm not seeing the problem with Schumer telling Trump you need to be willing to break with ideology.

Whether you think Schumer is being genuine is another story, but there's nothing wrong with that statement in of itself.

I agree with Robtard. There's nothing wrong with that statement. We seem to forget that our system is set up so sometimes you can work across party lines.

But notice it is only a GOOD thing when it goes in The Lefts Favor.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I agree with Robtard. There's nothing wrong with that statement. We seem to forget that our system is set up so sometimes you can work across party lines.

Which is why I would have loved it if Trump responded and asked for just one example of an issue where the right thing to do would be to step to the right. His answer would have, right then and there, determined whether or not Trump should take him seriously.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
But notice it is only a GOOD thing when it goes in The Lefts Favor.

The only value the left has, is winning.

Why can't they?

Originally posted by cdtm
The only value the left has, is whining.

Now This I would believe.

Originally posted by Sable
Why can't they?

It is simple: a fundamental lack of understanding of America and their place within it.

What they Choose not to Understand they try to Destroy.

Maybe they think that the way people think in LA and NYC are the way people think everywhere in the country. Oh what an awful place this would be were that true.

They are all ready getting their way. That is why pretty much every major metropolitan city in the U.S is quickly devolving into Blue Voting Shit Pits.

Lol California is trying to pass a thing to make Trump reveal his taxes if he wants to run in 2020. Funny thing, and strange I didn't know this until now, but the guv'nah of California has been the first in 30 or so odd years to not release their tax returns. Weird. They can't even practice what they preach, oh California.

No doubt though there have been petitions and protests in Cali in order to get the governor to release his. Many a folk whining, guaranteed. It would have to be, for them to be taken remotely seriously.

I get this feeling if I google it though....nah, I'm not gonna, cuz they surely made a big fuss about it, I don't need proof.

Originally posted by Surtur
It is simple: a fundamental lack of understanding of America and their place within it.

The thing is, people are so jaded to the Democratic parties scare mongering tactics, they just don't care anymore.

Once a poor, black, jewish convert realises all the people prospering in the party don't look like him, but instead look suspiciously like the bigots they're supposed to be voting against in the Republican party, they just give up voting.

Even if it's all a lie on both sides, at least the Republicans are motivating their base with more then "Here's why the decks stacked against you. Now vote for me as I sip cocktails in my summer home.."

Originally posted by cdtm
The thing is, people are so jaded to the Democratic parties scare mongering tactics, they just don't care anymore.

Once a poor, black, jewish convert realises all the people propering in the party don't look like him, but instead look suspiciously like the bigots they're supposed to be voting against in the Republican party, they just give up voting.

Even if it's all a lie on both sides, at least the Republicans are motivating their base with more then "Here's why the decks stacked against you. Now vote for me as I sip cocktails in my summer home.."

It's why I wish they valued diversity of thought much more than diversity of appearance.

Originally posted by Surtur
Which is why I would have loved it if Trump responded and asked for just one example of an issue where the right thing to do would be to step to the right. His answer would have, right then and there, determined whether or not Trump should take him seriously. You don't think that Obama ever stepped to the right? Or George Bush to the left? This is what I'm saying... you guys are doubling down on your own radical ideology, just like the radical leftists. This kind of game doesn't end well.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
You don't think that Obama ever stepped to the right? Or George Bush to the left? This is what I'm saying... you guys are doubling down on your own radical ideology, just like the radical leftists. This kind of game doesn't end well.

Depends on whether you believe he was talking about working across party lines, or keeping yourself free to flipflop to further your career.

Of course, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with compromise.. I'd argue we need compromise to get anything done.

That said, a person who sees politics as a means to further their career is not someone I'll respect as much as a person who sees the system as a means of expressing their core beliefs.

A used car salesman may believe in his heart they're selling you a junker, even as they argue it's a luxury car.. You hope our politics aren't so cynical.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
You don't think that Obama ever stepped to the right? Or George Bush to the left? This is what I'm saying... you guys are doubling down on your own radical ideology, just like the radical leftists. This kind of game doesn't end well.

That is not what I'm saying at all. Rather, I think Schumer just wouldn't have been able(or willing) to give examples.

But okay since you brought it up, when did Obama step to the right?

Originally posted by Surtur
That is not what I'm saying at all. Rather, I think Schumer just wouldn't have been able(or willing) to give examples.Which is purely political. He doesn't want to be quoted saying a right-wing policy is better than a left wing policy, etc. That doesn't make his advice unsound.

Well, you could look at how he watered down obamacare and got rid of the public option to make it pass. When it came time to negotiate taxes/entitlements, he never proposed any seriously radically progressive tax plan. He kept the war on terror going pretty much along the same trajectory as the Bush administration. He increased the number of drone strikes pretty substantially, etc.

Honestly, other than Obamacare, I have a really hard time imagining how life was different under Obama than it was under Bush.

Originally posted by cdtm
Depends on whether you believe he was talking about working across party lines, or keeping yourself free to flipflop to further your career.

Of course, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with compromise.. I'd argue we need compromise to get anything done.

That said, a person who sees politics as a means to further their career is not someone I'll respect as much as a person who sees the system as a means of expressing their core beliefs.

A used car salesman may believe in his heart they're selling you a junker, even as they argue it's a luxury car.. You hope our politics aren't so cynical. Tbh that sounds way more idealistic than how I look at Washington. Ideologues are pretty much useless in American Politics. Look at Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, etc.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Which is purely political. He doesn't want to be quoted saying a right-wing policy is better than a left wing policy, etc. That doesn't make his advice unsound.

Well, you could look at how he watered down obamacare and got rid of the public option to make it pass. When it came time to negotiate taxes/entitlements, he never proposed any seriously radically progressive tax plan. He kept the war on terror going pretty much along the same trajectory as the Bush administration. He increased the number of drone strikes pretty substantially, etc.

Honestly, other than Obamacare, I have a really hard time imagining how life was different under Obama than it was under Bush.

It might be political, but I also think the answer would speak volumes about the character of a person.

Everything is political these days.

They have even politicized politics.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
They have even politicized politics.

To be fair at least they have some integrity. They gave the politics a rest during natural disasters like hurricanes. As a decent person with a soul would do.

I mean, you always hear that story from WW1 about how both sides called a truce on Christmas? Or Christmas Eve? Or something. So if that could happen, surely people could cease the mouth running during a deadly natural disaster in our much more enlightened era.

Meh. That only lasts about 5 minutes.

And that WW1 Truce is easier to see happening.. I mean those guys were just soldiers. Not Politicians. Soldiers work towards ENDING their Conflicts.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Meh. That only lasts about 5 minutes.

And that WW1 Truce is easier to see happening.. I mean those guys were just soldiers. Not Politicians. Soldiers work towards ENDING their Conflicts.


Yeah but the horrors they saw...if they could set it aside for a night surely some pampered MSM anchors could do so.

Lol, I couldn't even type that with a straight face.

Thats one thing our Soldiers should count their blessings on.
Unlike politicians they never had to face anything on a daily basis as this HORRIFIC Monstrosity!

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