DE Luke vs. Knightfall Vader

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Rebel95
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All out

Fight takes place in the Geonosis arena. Who wins?

DarthAnt66
Swap DE Luke with FOTJ Luke and we'll talk.

UCanShootMyNova
DE Luke annihilates. :>

Rebel95
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Swap DE Luke with FOTJ Luke and we'll talk.
Where do you rank DE Luke relative to other force users?

EDIT: and how much of a gap do you think there is between DE and FOTJ Luke?

DarthAnt66
I get the impression he's a better version of Vader.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I get the impression he's a better version of Vader.
But then post-de luke is made out to still be sub-vader

Rebel95
Ok that's kinda what I was thinking too

nfactor1995
Honestly don't know what's supposed to be so immensely impressive about Knightfall Vader tbh

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Honestly don't know what's supposed to be so immensely impressive about Knightfall Vader tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g&t=0m06s

Rebel95
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Honestly don't know what's supposed to be so immensely impressive about Knightfall Vader tbh
Well he's basically just a more powerful, dark side version of Anakin.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Honestly don't know what's supposed to be so immensely impressive about Knightfall Vader tbh
Read up:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/the-best-of-anakin-skywalker-rots-a-legends-respec/128624/

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
But then post-de luke is made out to still be sub-vader

Is he?

Rebel95
I know there's a quote comparing DE Luke to Vader but I can't remember exactly what it is, anyone know?

UCanShootMyNova
It's basically a statement by Sidious stating that Luke could surpass his father.

Some users have taken that to mean that at the time of DE, Luke had not surpassed his father by that point.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Is he?

NewGuy01
That's before DE. Palpatine does seem to imply that Luke wasn't really Vader's superior by any significant margin in the comic itself, though.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's before DE.
It is? Never mind then.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It's basically a statement by Sidious stating that Luke could surpass his father.

Some users have taken that to mean that at the time of DE, Luke had not surpassed his father by that point.
In fairness the statement says he could become much more powerful than his father, not more powerful. It's plausible he's already more powerful and that he isn't much more powerful

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Anakin 10/10, here.

NewGuy01
If that were the case, though, why even use Vader as an example? He could have just said "you can still become even stronger," but instead he said "you can become far stronger than he was."

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by NewGuy01
If that were the case, though, why even use Vader as an example? He could have just said "you can still become even stronger," but instead he said "you can become far stronger than he was."
Well yea. The inference that Vader hasn't surpassed Luke yet is the most logical. But it could be argued around if someone was so inclined.

That said, you could argue Luke had surpassed Vader by the end of DE

SunRazer
It just means he didn't far surpass Vader by DE, not that he hadn't surpassed him at all.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by SunRazer
It just means he didn't far surpass Vader by DE, not that he hadn't surpassed him at all.
Well, like I said, Luke having surpassed Vader but not far surpassed him is plausible.

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