Merged Zamasu vs Jiran

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Sable
Merged Zamasu (SSJ Rose + Zamasu)

vs

Jiran

carver9
Jiren wins. Goku adding red to his blue was able to damage Zamasu. Goku with a higher amp is going to be fodder to Jiren. Probably a holding back Jiren.

carver9
Goku vs Zamasu (merged).

https://youtu.be/7KkfeySgLOM

cdtm
Merged stomps.

NewGuy01
Zamasu is immortal. Even if Jiren could overpower him with a flick, he'd still die of old age before he could win.

Sable
Originally posted by carver9
Jiren wins. Goku adding red to his blue was able to damage Zamasu. Goku with a higher amp is going to be fodder to Jiren. Probably a holding back Jiren.

How does he win, Zamasu is immortal and his power level keeps increasing. It took Zeno to kill him off.

cdtm
Originally posted by Sable
How does he win, Zamasu is immortal and his power level keeps increasing. It took Zeno to kill him off.

He thinks base Goku > Superman, I wouldn't put much stock in anything Carver says.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Jiren is infinitely more powerful, but Zamasu probably wins via immortality.

Sable
He's infantry more powerful. You really think so? What makes you think that?

In the SSB Gogeta vs Jiran people said SSB Gogeta wins.

carver9
Merged Zamasu isn't immortal. This was outright said during the show. When he merged with Goku Black, he lost his immortality which is the reason Trunks was able to kill his physical form. In regards to his transformation afterwards. If Jirens takes him out immediately without letting him cross the Universe, Jiren wins.

Sable
Originally posted by carver9
Merged Zamasu isn't immortal. This was outright said during the show. When he merged with Goku Black, he lost his immortality which is the reason Trunks was able to kill his physical form. In regards to his transformation afterwards. If Jirens takes him out immediately without letting him cross the Universe, Jiren wins.

He was immortal hence why when trunks killed him, he didn't die. Zeno had to kill him.

Damborgson
Originally posted by carver9
Merged Zamasu isn't immortal. This was outright said during the show. When he merged with Goku Black, he lost his immortality which is the reason Trunks was able to kill his physical form. In regards to his transformation afterwards. If Jirens takes him out immediately without letting him cross the Universe, Jiren wins.

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Sable
Originally posted by Sable
He was immortal hence why when trunks killed him, he didn't die. Zeno had to kill him.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Sable
He's infantry more powerful. You really think so? What makes you think that?

In the SSB Gogeta vs Jiran people said SSB Gogeta wins.

Well, current SSB Gogeta shits on Merged Zamasu, as does Jiren.

cdtm
Originally posted by Sable
He was immortal hence why when trunks killed him, he didn't die. Zeno had to kill him.

Correct.

And in the manga, his immortality is why Goku tried to erase him.

Sable
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, current SSB Gogeta shits on Merged Zamasu, as does Jiren.

True

cdtm
SSJ Vegeto also failed to kill him with his best attack, which proves his immortality.

Sable
Well Goku rarley kills outright and they ran out of time.

Why do you think Merged stomps, because Carver said otherwise?

cdtm
Because he's immortal.

Goku used to kill all the time in Dragon Ball.. Outright murdered Red Ribbon Army mooks, Agent Black, Piccolo. Now he doesn't so much, but Vegeta does, and he was a part of Vegeto too.

Either way, the Final Kamehameha didn't even slow Zamasu down.

Sable
Didn't Goku blow his harm off with a Kamehameha?

Kento
Merged Zamasu. Anime or Manga versions. Manga version was completely immortal, and each time he was blasted to bits, just spawned more Zamasu with the same exact level of power. Jiren might technically be stronger than the manga version, but run will run out of energy and the other will be just fine, and win through sheer numbers and unable to be killed. Without the lame drawback of Garlic Jr, and always getting tossed into the Dead Zone.

Anime Zamasu, was going toe to toe with Vegetto, Jiren isn't doing spirit sword, AND even if Jiren somehow did manage to 'kill' Zamasu, he then just takes over the whole universe and kills Jiren anyway

Sable
How was he defeated in the manga?

cdtm
He wasn't.

Sable
So he lives on?

Damborgson
Zeno took care of him.

Kento
Originally posted by Sable
How was he defeated in the manga? Zeno erasing a whole universe..like in the show. Something way beyond Jiren

cdtm
Originally posted by Sable
So he lives on?

Thought you meant the equivilent of Trunks defeating him in the anime.

Zeno erased the universe, with him in it.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Erased the timeline *

It's referred to as both, but given the Time Ring was destroyed after Zen-Oh erased Zamasu, I'm pretty sure Zen-Oh erased the whole shebang.

And yeah, obviously Zen-Oh could erase Jiren (and literally everybody present at the ToP) with a thought.

Kento
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Erased the timeline *

It's referred to as both, but given the Time Ring was destroyed after Zen-Oh erased Zamasu, I'm pretty sure Zen-Oh erased the whole shebang.

And yeah, obviously Zen-Oh could erase Jiren (and literally everybody present at the ToP) with a thought. the timeline still existed. because Whis sends them to when Trunks is training with Kibito and Kaioshin. To stop it from happening and to protect that world with double Trunks power

Inedian
Merged Zamasu with ridiculous ease and by pure destruction extremely easily.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Kento
the timeline still existed. because Whis sends them to when Trunks is training with Kibito and Kaioshin. To stop it from happening and to protect that world with double Trunks power

Well by timeline, I meant the multiverse at that specific time, as opposed to the entire past/present/future.

Sable
Originally posted by Inedian
Merged Zamasu with ridiculous ease and by pure destruction extremely easily.

Lol no Jiren stomps him so hard.

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