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Captain America has to avenge Black Widow (Since most of you said that Black Widow loses in my other Thread).

Cap throws his shield away, and challanges Daredevil to a fist fight!!

Who wins this one?

Cap whoops his ass Lolololololol.

Too strong and fast for Matt.

Lets assume Cap doesn't have his super strenght! Only his fighting skills and speed.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lets assume Cap doesn't have his super strenght! Only his fighting skills and speed.

But you didn't say Cap lost his physical strength, Cap manhandles him by punching him in the face and putting Matt in coma.

Cap fought people that are faster and stronger than Matt. Matt gets his ass manhandled Lolololololol.

Guys this is a fist fight! No Super Strenght for none, nor Shield for Capt. This is to test who is a better fighter ONLY.

Odd, you didn't handicap Daredevil's strength in the other thread. is that because you believe DD and BW have the same level of strength?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Odd, you didn't handicap Daredevil's strength in the other thread. is that because you believe DD and BW have the same level of strength?

The purpose of this thread is to decide who is a better fighter only.

If i give Cap his superstrenght then one punch and Daredevil is dead.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The purpose of this thread is to decide who is a better fighter only.

If i give Cap his superstrenght then one punch and Daredevil is dead.

Wasn't that also the purpose of the DD vs BW thread ?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wasn't that also the purpose of the DD vs BW thread ?

That is right! What is the problem?

This is the TV show Daredevil, not the one interpreted by Ben Affleck.

cap is stronger, faster more agile and more durable than daredevil. only thing DD might have is better fighting skill but that won't save him... it'll be like Batroc trying Cap it'd be over quick

Matt is more skilled

Speed means nothing here, Featless Batroc traded blows with him and Batroc would get torn apart by Defenders Matt who fought Black Sky a bullet timer

of course speed matters; fighting speed is a thing, who's a faster puncher etc.. you ever watch combat sports or what??

Closer now after Defenders but Cap stills wins by a lot.

Obviously super-powered Steve would win. No powers is impossible to say. Seriously, I have no idea how anyone can make calls on how Steve would perform without his enhancements, as he has zero onscreen feats doing so. We have no idea how tough, strong, fast etc. he is without the SS serum. He might be Nobu level, or he might be Falcon level.

CAPTAIN AMERICA SHIT STOMPS

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Cap wins.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Obviously super-powered Steve would win. No powers is impossible to say. Seriously, I have no idea how anyone can make calls on how Steve would perform without his enhancements, as he has zero onscreen feats doing so. We have no idea how tough, strong, fast etc. he is without the SS serum. He might be Nobu level, or he might be Falcon level.

Yes, Cap was a nerd basically before the Syrup.

As I said guys. Cap doesn't have his "Super" Strenght. The Super Strenght he received from the Syrupt. Let's assume he is just a strong guy but not "Super Strong" (Like strong enough to kill Daredevil in one punch or kick! To make it fair for Matt)

Then he dies because he isn't as skilled simple as that

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As I said guys. Cap doesn't have his "Super" Strenght. The Super Strenght he received from the Syrupt. Let's assume he is just a strong guy but not "Super Strong" (Like strong enough to kill Daredevil in one punch or kick! To make it fair for Matt)

yeah ok, take away caps jesus juice and he gets wrecked

How about for the match Daredevil's radar senses are turned off as well. To make it fair for Cap.

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I.... coulda sworn Josh has said he doesn't deal in hypotheticals. This OP is nothing but a pure hypothetical....

Originally posted by KingD19
How about for the match Daredevil's radar senses are turned off as well. To make it fair for Cap.

Without powers, it would basically be a blind guy vs a sickly midget.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Without powers, it would basically be a blind guy vs a sickly midget.

So, who defeats the no legged man in an ass kicking contest?

This is a fist fight people! It got to be fair for both Parties. Cap loses his "super" strenght, yet he is still stronger (So Daredevil doesnt get killed in two kicks). Cap however still keeps his speed and Agility. Daredevil is blind, so he keeps his abilities.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
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I.... coulda sworn Josh has said he doesn't deal in hypotheticals. This OP is nothing but a pure hypothetical....

Not actually. You can still see the fighting skills of the characters on skills. Just imagine Cap fighting the same way excepf he wont hold a helicopter with one hand the way he did in Civil War.

so.. cap is his 80 lb weakass self???


somebody butthurt about something

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
This is a fist fight people! It got to be fair for both Parties. Cap loses his "super" strenght, yet he is still stronger (So Daredevil doesnt get killed in two kicks). Cap however still keeps his speed and Agility. Daredevil is blind, so he keeps his abilities.

This is confusing. Would be easier to just make an unarmed Daredevil vs. human Thor thread.

He wanted Daredevil to win. however, he forgot about Cap's durability.

Cap eats Daredevil hits all day while beating him down.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He wanted Daredevil to win. however, he forgot about Cap's durability.

I wanted a fair fight. Lets assume Cap is more durable.

Cap is more durable. It won't be a "fair" fight unless you keep nerfing Cap. Then it'll only be fair for Matt.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I wanted a fair fight. Lets assume Cap is more durable.

It's not an assumption, Cap is far more durable.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's not an assumption, Cap is far more durable.

Okay. However.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay. However.

What?

However is Cap tanks everything Matt throws at him and beats him down.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cap is more durable. It won't be a "fair" fight unless you keep nerfing Cap. Then it'll only be fair for Matt.

Hmmmm!?

Do you think i should nerf Cap's durability?

The thing is that this aint a DeathBattle. It is a fist fight. He can be more durable, but if he gets more beaten than his opponent, he loses.

They are having a friendly fight. Consider it that way. They just want to see who is a better fighter. Not more durable or stronger.

Are you just going to keep changing the stips until Daredevil wins?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you just going to keep changing the stips until Daredevil wins?

I dont want anyone to win. I just want to see who is a better fighter.

To do that though you're taking away a chunk of what makes Captain America who he is, yet you haven't nerfed Daredevil at all. So you want to see who will win if you weaken Captain America enough to make it a fight for Daredevil.

Allow me to make this easy for you. Instead of calling it a fistfight were one side gets nurfburgled, why not just call it a competition of fighting skill?

In a purely fighting technique perspective for example, I would give that edge to Dare Devil. The dude has a more nuanced and practiced fighting style. Steve seems more reliant on his more innate abilities such as his strength and his hand eye co-ordination (All his shield techniques for example) and it isn't quite a skill rather an innate ability.

However, Daredevil's accomplishments are not as high as those of Cap, because he's not meant to take on the same calibur of foes that Cap does.

Originally posted by KingD19
To do that though you're taking away a chunk of what makes Captain America who he is, yet you haven't nerfed Daredevil at all. So you want to see who will win if you weaken Captain America enough to make it a fight for Daredevil.

If i put to fight Captain america vs Daredevil i knwo Cap beats the hell out of Matt.

Cap is much more powerful than Dare.

So i have to nerf some of his superpowers, so this is determined by whom is a better fighter, and not who is stronger or more super.

How do you think i should balance this so i can get who is a better fighter? Give me an advice.

Because I got skimmed over, and I answered the question Josh asked above :P

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Allow me to make this easy for you. Instead of calling it a fistfight were one side gets nurfburgled, why not just call it a competition of fighting skill?

In a purely fighting technique perspective for example, I would give that edge to Dare Devil. The dude has a more nuanced and practiced fighting style. Steve seems more reliant on his more innate abilities such as his strength and his hand eye co-ordination (All his shield techniques for example) and it isn't quite a skill rather an innate ability.

However, Daredevil's accomplishments are not as high as those of Cap, because he's not meant to take on the same calibur of foes that Cap does.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Allow me to make this easy for you. Instead of calling it a fistfight were one side gets nurfburgled, why not just call it a competition of fighting skill?

In a purely fighting technique perspective for example, I would give that edge to Dare Devil. The dude has a more nuanced and practiced fighting style. Steve seems more reliant on his more innate abilities such as his strength and his hand eye co-ordination (All his shield techniques for example) and it isn't quite a skill rather an innate ability.

However, Daredevil's accomplishments are not as high as those of Cap, because he's not meant to take on the same calibur of foes that Cap does.

Yeah this id to test who is a better fighter (more skilled).

How should i nerf them in order to make it a fight to test their fighting skills?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Because I got skimmed over, and I answered the question Josh asked above :P

Didnt saw it.

Originally posted by KingD19
To do that though you're taking away a chunk of what makes Captain America who he is, yet you haven't nerfed Daredevil at all. So you want to see who will win if you weaken Captain America enough to make it a fight for Daredevil.

Correction, he wants to see who'll win if he nerfs Cap enough for Daredevil to win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Correction, he wants to see who'll win if he nerfs Cap enough for Daredevil to win.

Lol, i am actually on Cap's favor. But what is the point of making it a fist fight, if Cap will kill him in one punch!?

If you read the topic of the Thread is FIST FIGHT it doesn't say Captain america vs Daredevil. That means there are going to be rules.

Hello guys. Due to several of your comments i will be redesigning this thread, and fixing it. Will make a new thread with appropiate regulations.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol, i am actually on Cap's favor. But what is the point of making it a fist fight, if Cap will kill him in one punch!?

If you read the topic of the Thread is FIST FIGHT it doesn't say Captain america vs Daredevil. That means there are going to be rules.

No, you're not.

It's a fist fight between Cap and Daredevil. the rules state that we use their standard versions unless otherwise stated. meaning Cap wins and once you realized that, you started adding stips so that your boy Daredevil would win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you're not.

It's a fist fight between Cap and Daredevil. the rules state that we use their standard versions unless otherwise stated. meaning Cap wins and once you realized that, you started adding stips so that your boy Daredevil would win.

I forgot about Cap's super strenght. Therefore i needed to nerf it.

I am the OP am not taking part of the discussion. I don't care who wins.

If i leave Cap's super strenght then He KILLS Dare in a coulple of punches.

You forgot that Cap was strong, I find that very hard to believe. you also wanted to nerf his durability.

I think you do.

That's life.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I forgot about Cap's super strenght. Therefore i needed to nerf it.

I am the OP am not taking part of the discussion. I don't care who wins.

If i leave Cap's super strenght then He KILLS Dare in a coulple of punches.

You did not. Thats literally his #1 feature. Now you are just lying.

For someone that claims he's not taking part in the discussion, he's certainly posted a lot on this thread.

He's an idiot. He tried to steer the fight where he wanted to go by changing the rules to ensure the outcome the entire way. Then when did didn't get the result he wanted, he wants to abandon the thread.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lets assume Cap doesn't have his super strenght! Only his fighting skills and speed.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Guys this is a fist fight! No Super Strenght for none, nor Shield for Capt. This is to test who is a better fighter ONLY.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
That is right! What is the problem?

This is the TV show Daredevil, not the one interpreted by Ben Affleck.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yes, Cap was a nerd basically before the Syrup.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As I said guys. Cap doesn't have his "Super" Strenght. The Super Strenght he received from the Syrupt. Let's assume he is just a strong guy but not "Super Strong" (Like strong enough to kill Daredevil in one punch or kick! To make it fair for Matt)
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
This is a fist fight people! It got to be fair for both Parties. Cap loses his "super" strenght, yet he is still stronger (So Daredevil doesnt get killed in two kicks). Cap however still keeps his speed and Agility. Daredevil is blind, so he keeps his abilities.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I wanted a fair fight. Lets assume Cap is more durable.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hmmmm!?

Do you think i should nerf Cap's durability?

The thing is that this aint a DeathBattle. It is a fist fight. He can be more durable, but if he gets more beaten than his opponent, he loses.

They are having a friendly fight. Consider it that way. They just want to see who is a better fighter. Not more durable or stronger.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I dont want anyone to win. I just want to see who is a better fighter.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
If i put to fight Captain america vs Daredevil i knwo Cap beats the hell out of Matt.

Cap is much more powerful than Dare.

So i have to nerf some of his superpowers, so this is determined by whom is a better fighter, and not who is stronger or more super.

How do you think i should balance this so i can get who is a better fighter? Give me an advice.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Didnt saw it. Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol, i am actually on Cap's favor. But what is the point of making it a fist fight, if Cap will kill him in one punch!?

If you read the topic of the Thread is FIST FIGHT it doesn't say Captain america vs Daredevil. That means there are going to be rules. Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hello guys. Due to several of your comments i will be redesigning this thread, and fixing it. Will make a new thread with appropiate regulations.

Isnt taking part of the discussion

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