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All the Orc forces as seen in Battle of the Five Armies under the command of Azog vs. the forces under the command of Gul'Dan in Warcraft. No mutiny or discord under Gul'Dan either for this thread.

Gul'Dan's stomps

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Gul'Dan's stomps Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Warcraf has superior Orcs.

Gul'Dan MEGA Stomps Azog.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Warcraf has superior Orcs.

Gul'Dan MEGA Stomps Azog. In general yes the grunts are bigger and stronger but Lotr has a huge numerical advantage. They also employ battle tactics unlike the charge everything Warcraft orcs.

Azog also has trolls and orcs which are bigger and stronger than Warcraft orcs. Azog is more formidable as is Bolg than the elite Warcraft orcs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In general yes the grunts are bigger and stronger but Lotr has a huge numerical advantage. They also employ battle tactics unlike the charge everything Warcraft orcs.

Azog also has trolls and orcs which are bigger and stronger than Warcraft orcs. Azog is more formidable as is Bolg than the elite Warcraft orcs.

Doesnt make a matter.

https://youtu.be/Qk2ecnSKYzQ

After witnessing Gul Dans power they will ally with him and turn on Azog. Or Azog just opens his legs to Gul Dan

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Doesnt make a matter.

https://youtu.be/Qk2ecnSKYzQ

After witnessing Gul Dans power they will ally with him and turn on Azog. Or Azog just opens his legs to Gul Dan Even his own orcs turned on Gul'Dan and his people.

Best part is when they all defied Gul'Dan for trying to kill Lothar. Openly defied and ignored him.

Azog would bury him. Just gut him. More organized, more orcs, trolls, ogres, goblins, etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even his own orcs turned on Gul'Dan and his people.

Best part is when they all defied Gul'Dan for trying to kill Lothar. Openly defied and ignored him.

Azog would bury him. Just gut him. More organized, more orcs, trolls, ogres, goblins, etc.

They did, and he killed every single one of those who defied him, basically forcing them to obey him. Gul Dam killed Lothar easily.

Lol, Azog ends up being his personal *****.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ_DOmFABGA

Gul Dan will say anyone else!!? Then all Azog's Orcs will abandon him. Then Gil Dan will make them turn against Azog just for defying him.

That is how powerful Gul Dan is.

Warcraft Stomps LoTR. Answering your question in the other thread.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
They did, and he killed every single one of those who defied him, basically forcing them to obey him. Gul Dam killed Lothar easily.

Lol, Azog ends up being his personal *****.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ_DOmFABGA

Gul Dan will say anyone else!!? Then all Azog's Orcs will abandon him. Then Gil Dan will make them turn against Azog just for defying him.

That is how powerful Gul Dan is.

Warcraft Stomps LoTR. Answering your question in the other thread. Lothar wasn't killed.

At the end they all defied him.

Nah, Azog kills Gul'Dan if the coward shows up on the battlefield. He tends to hang back and obsess over the Fel. Azog's orcs never abandoned him but Gul'Dan's orcs clearly defied him. Blackhand did so as well prior to his death.

So your claim is disproven in your own film.

How ? They are outnumbered, up against a better war tactician, and up against bigger foes in trolls and ogres.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lothar wasn't killed.

At the end they all defied him.

Nah, Azog kills Gul'Dan if the coward shows up on the battlefield. He tends to hang back and obsess over the Fel. Azog's orcs never abandoned him but Gul'Dan's orcs clearly defied him. Blackhand did so as well prior to his death.

So your claim is disproven in your own film.

How ? They are outnumbered, up against a better war tactician, and up against bigger foes in trolls and ogres.

You have an issue if you believe Azog has a chance against Gul Dan.

Gul Dan drains his spirit and done! Once orcs lose their cheif they bend the knee to Gul Dan.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You have an issue if you believe Azog has a chance against Gul Dan.

Gul Dan drains his spirit and done! Once orcs lose their cheif they bend the knee to Gul Dan. So you ignore the rest of my post.

Since when did Gul'Dan charge into battle to kill the opposing leader ?

Gul'Dan tried backing out of his fight with Durotan but Blackhand denied him. Openly defied him. If his own orcs don't respect and defy him who would jump ship from Azog's crew.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you ignore the rest of my post.

Since when did Gul'Dan charge into battle to kill the opposing leader ?

Gul'Dan tried backing out of his fight with Durotan but Blackhand denied him. Openly defied him. If his own orcs don't respect and defy him who would jump ship from Azog's crew.

I ignore stupidity.

Never, he drains their soul out. Thats how powerful he is. Azog dies.

Yeah in the end he gave a **** and drained him as well as all others who defied him. Blackhand was forced into submission.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I ignore stupidity.

Never, he drains their soul out. Thats how powerful he is. Azog dies.

Yeah in the end he gave a **** and drained him as well as all others who defied him. Blackhand was forced into submission. So you concede those points, progress.


Whose enemy leader did he go onto the battlefield in order to do so ? Was it him approaching the king of the alliance to get the glory ?

Blackhand denied him and nothing ever occurred. He ignored w command from his leader in front of all the orcs. He did nothing afterwards to Blackhand.

At the end of the film every single Orc defied him. Pitiful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede those points, progress.


Whose enemy leader did he go onto the battlefield in order to do so ? Was it him approaching the king of the alliance to get the glory ?

Blackhand denied him and nothing ever occurred. He ignored w command from his leader in front of all the orcs. He did nothing afterwards to Blackhand.

At the end of the film every single Orc defied him. Pitiful.

Lol Azog vs Gul Dan isnt even debatable. Gul Dan stomps. Ultra Stomps.

Lets leave others to reply. Cause honeslty, Azog has 0 chance against Gul Dan.

What is next Quanchi? Azog vs Hulk?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol Azog vs Gul Dan isnt even debatable. Gul Dan stomps. Ultra Stomps.

Lets leave others to reply. Cause honeslty, Azog has 0 chance against Gul Dan.

What is next Quanchi? Azog vs Hulk? I disagree but this is a army thread. Gul'Dan doesn't lead his troops into battle.

Gul'Dan barely bested Durotan. Azog would impale him. But the thread is about the combined forces not these two alone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree but this is a army thread. Gul'Dan doesn't lead his troops into battle.

Gul'Dan barely bested Durotan. Azog would impale him. But the thread is about the combined forces not these two alone.

Warcraft automatically has stronger orcs.

Gul Dan kills Azog and the other orcs surrender. Easy.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Warcraft automatically has stronger orcs.

Gul Dan kills Azog and the other orcs surrender. Easy. I said the general orcs are bigger and what not but the numerical advantage and the tactical one is on the side of Lotr. You also ignored the point about Gul'Dan not engaging in the battle and repeated house.

The orcs don't surrender in Lotr. What are you basing this off of ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said the general orcs are bigger and what not but the numerical advantage and the tactical one is on the side of Lotr. You also ignored the point about Gul'Dan not engaging in the battle and repeated house.

The orcs don't surrender in Lotr. What are you basing this off of ?

Lol. One Warcraft orc is 2 or maybe 3 LoTR orc.

Doesnt mean he will let his army get butchered. Guk Dan could as well Drain all of their souls.

Lol, have your orcs witness Azog dying to Gul Dan and tell me if theyll want to keep fighting.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol. One Warcraft orc is 2 or maybe 3 LoTR orc.

Doesnt mean he will let his army get butchered. Guk Dan could as well Drain all of their souls.

Lol, have your orcs witness Azog dying to Gul Dan and tell me if theyll want to keep fighting. There's no proof to that. You also aren't accounting for the trolls and ogres.

Gul'Dan never butchered an entire army by taking their souls. That's not even close to accurate.

Azog would kill him. Gul'Dan lost the respect his own orcs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There's no proof to that. You also aren't accounting for the trolls and ogres.

Gul'Dan never butchered an entire army by taking their souls. That's not even close to accurate.

Azog would kill him. Gul'Dan lost the respect his own orcs.

Lol i don't need prove it's pretty evident.

Am not saying he will. Still killing Azog would be enough for their troops to hesitate or even withdraw. Azog is their leader, seeing him die so easily will surely affect them.

Not enough Ogres and Trolls to make a difference. Gul Dan could still kill them easily.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol i don't need prove it's pretty evident.

Am not saying he will. Still killing Azog would be enough for their troops to hesitate or even withdraw. Azog is their leader, seeing him die so easily will surely affect them.

Not enough Ogres and Trolls to make a difference. Gul Dan could still kill them easily. In every debate you need to prove your case.

Who says Gul'Dan will even find Azog in battle. Azog gets in combat situations while Gul'Dan hands to the back. That doesn't mean they'd stop fighting. Bolg is still there but don't you worry. Azog won't die but Gul'Dan will.

There are quite a bunch and they also have a staggering numerical advantage along with superior battle tactics.

Nah. They lost a lot of ogres against the pitiful alliance forces at the end of the film.