Who killed JFK: Death bed confession

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



cdtm
Add this to the list of conspiracy theories.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3762617/JFK-assassination-inside-job-Ex-government-agent-claimed-team-killed-president-remarkable-deathbed-confession-director-Oliver-Stone.html





Wouldn't surprise me if every single conspiracy was true.. JFK stepped on a LOT of toes. In a way, he was his era's Donald Trump, in the sense that many in his own party hated him as much as the opposition..

The main difference, is Trump is just saying stupid shit, while JFK actually knew what he was doing and caused real harm to important people's agendas.. (As an exchange on Fox News went, "Lmao, you don't want the president to do anything!" "I just hope Trump keeps focusing on the inconsequential."

Sable
Lets go with the most valid theories.

Mob wanted Kennedys dead for crossing them
Rothschilds wanted JFK dead for Executive Order 11110
CIA wanted him dead cause he wanted to shatter them into 1000 pieces and scatter them.
LBJ hated JFK and was the tool to make it happen and cover it up after.

This presented a perfect storm.

Surtur
Originally posted by Sable
Lets go with the most valid theories.

Mob wanted Kennedys dead for crossing them
Rothschilds wanted JFK dead for Executive Order 11110
CIA wanted him dead cause he wanted to shatter them into 1000 pieces and scatter them.
LBJ hated JFK and was the tool to make it happen and cover it up after.

This presented a perfect storm.

There are things that do not add up though when it comes to conspiracy theories about Kennedy and his death. Lee Harvey Oswald more or less seems like an intelligence agent. Why else did he know how to speak Russian and why else was he allowed to return so easily after defecting to Russia? As well as being allowed to bring a wife he had met in Russia back with him? That is odd.

Just like Oswalds death by Jack Ruby, some say this was to shut Oswald up. Who shuts Ruby up? Dude wallowed away in prison for years before dying.

I think it is more likely Oswald was an intelligence agent, we sent him to Russia to pretend to defect, dude actually got radicalized over there and came back and did what he did. Then the government was quite eager to cover up the fact a former intelligence agent got all cozy with communism and killed the president after they sent him there.

Unless someone else knows why a normal marine would be taught to speak Russian by the military.

The mob could surely have carried out a hit on Kennedy, they were capable of it. But the ensuing coverup that would be needed they lack the power for. The government has indeed more or less worked with mobsters before, but in terms of risk vs reward helping the mob either plan or cover up killing a president goes beyond anything done.

Johnson hated the Kennedy's and most likely knew he wouldn't be the VP pick for 1964 and that Bobby would, but again I don't think he'd risk his career(such as it was) by being involved in a presidential assassination.

Our own government did not need bullets to destroy Kennedy if that is what they really wanted. His womanizing being exposed could have destroyed his chances at winning in 1964 and yep, the FBI at least was 100% aware of his activities and I'd be shocked if Hoover didn't have proof of this, he pretty much told JFK he did. He just did it without directly saying it, acting like he was there to "help" this information not be discovered by less reputable folk. Why do you think he was allowed to keep his job after he reached retirement age?

Sable
A mans family while in prison can be powerful tool by his enemies not to talk.

Surtur
Originally posted by Sable
A mans family while in prison can be powerful tool by his enemies not to talk.

Yeah, but there are other things too that point to Jack Ruby having done this spur of the moment. Oswald was brought out late that day. They had told the press,etc. he would be brought out at a certain time and he wasn't. We know Jack Ruby wasn't anywhere in the area at the time Oswald was set to be brought out(he was at a western union sending money to someone).

jaden101
RUSSIA 🇷🇺 DID IT

Stringer
Meanwhile In Russia

Sable
Originally posted by jaden101
RUSSIA 🇷🇺 DID IT

Solid theory!

Flyattractor
Russia did it while fully aided by their Anti -U.S Leftist Progressive Allies.

Cause JKF wasn't a LIBTARD LIKE THEM!


Aka Hillary did it.

roughrider
The magic bullet theory is reason enough to believe Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone, if at all.

Todd1700
Originally posted by roughrider
The magic bullet theory is reason enough to believe Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone, if at all.

There is no magic bullet required. The whole basis of a bullet having to take an impossible zig zagging path through Kennedy and then Connally to explain their wounds is based on a false assumption that Connally was sitting perfectly, directly in front of Kennedy. He wasn't. Connally was sitting further towards the middle of the car than Kennedy. The rear seat of that limo was also 3 inches higher than the front seat. When these adjustments are made the bullet path lines up perfectly in a straight line with the wounds inflicted.

Foxsteak
The fact that it happened is proof the CIA were involved. "No secret service agent was in that area." After what is described as 2 shots fired, the driver is breaking and watching him choke until his brains blow out, then he rushes him to the hospital. Then the secret service take his body on a plane.

There are lots of theories and evidence of how it happened and who was involved. I hear a theory that Officer Tibbit looked like JFK and was used as a body switch where they actually created the wounds instead of dissecting them. Another is that Oswald was an agent of Hoover's who located millitary training camps in Cuba to stop nuclear war and was there to stop the assassination. And the craziest one I heard was that Chuck Norris went back in time to deflect the bullets with his beard, JFK's head exploded in amazement.

Todd1700
Originally posted by Foxsteak
The fact that it happened is proof the CIA were involved. "No secret service agent was in that area." After what is described as 2 shots fired, the driver is breaking and watching him choke until his brains blow out, then he rushes him to the hospital. Then the secret service take his body on a plane.

There are lots of theories and evidence of how it happened and who was involved. I hear a theory that Officer Tibbit looked like JFK and was used as a body switch where they actually created the wounds instead of dissecting them. Another is that Oswald was an agent of Hoover's who located millitary training camps in Cuba to stop nuclear war and was there to stop the assassination. And the craziest one I heard was that Chuck Norris went back in time to deflect the bullets with his beard, JFK's head exploded in amazement.

Unfortunately there is an entire cottage industry in this country founded on spawning JKF assassination theories. Some make a good living off selling books and making documentaries about it. I have read or watched most of the theories and they basically fall into two categories. 1.) Complete utter bullshit that is not supported by any credible evidence at all. 2.) Theories that only seem plausible because the author or director cherry picked facts while conveniently failing to mention other facts that totally undermine their bullshit premise.

For any one interested go read the book, "Case Closed"by Gerald Posner. I think it originally came out back in 1993. It lays out the true facts of the case and just systematically skull f##ks all the conspiracy theories.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Todd1700
Unfortunately there is an entire cottage industry in this country founded on spawning JKF assassination theories. Some make a good living off selling books and making documentaries about it. I have read or watched most of the theories and they basically fall into two categories. 1.) Complete utter bullshit that is not supported by any credible evidence at all. 2.) Theories that only seem plausible because the author or director cherry picked facts while conveniently failing to mention other facts that totally undermine their bullshit premise.

For any one interested go read the book, "Case Closed"by Gerald Posner. I think it originally came out back in 1993. It lays out the true facts of the case and just systematically skull f##ks all the conspiracy theories. I'll make a note of it in my diary.

My point is it happened. How did they allow it to happen? The old joke is "How do you know the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination? He's dead."

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I'll make a note of it in my diary.

My point is it happened. How did they allow it to happen? The old joke is "How do you know the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination? He's dead."
Well, how did they allow Ronald Reagan to get shot? The CIA is not omnipotent.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Well, how did they allow Ronald Reagan to get shot? The CIA is not omnipotent. Ronald Reagan didn't die from it and complied with the CIA since.

ArtificialGlory

Flyattractor
Reagan was just made of pretty tuff stuff.

Foxsteak

Todd1700
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Well, how did they allow Ronald Reagan to get shot? The CIA is not omnipotent.

Exactly. Despite all the secret service protection, Hinckley put a bullet close to Reagans heart. In fact if he had been sane enough to purchase a more powerful handgun than the little snub nosed .22 he used then he may have very well killed Reagan. And who was Hinckley? A pathetic deranged loser nobody.

People just don't want to believe that famous or powerful people can be killed in this world without some kind of massive sinister plot behind it. I guess they fear believing it because if one stray loser with a gun can take down the most powerful person in the world then that means we average folk are really twisting in the wind of fate out here. Which of course we are. LOL!

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Foxsteak
Well, Reagan was shot in like his first year as president? That's like Trump getting shot now.

Kennedy was fighting and specifically targeting the CIA for over two years and had started his re election campaign as an incredibly popular president. So popular America was nicknamed Camelot, the greatest fictional castle ever.
That doesn't really make a difference and only raises the question as to why wasn't the same done to JFK. Why wait for years as he's fighting and targeting your agency when they could've just sent JFK a message in the first months of his presidency as was done with Reagan?

Foxsteak
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
That doesn't really make a difference and only raises the question as to why wasn't the same done to JFK. Why wait for years as he's fighting and targeting your agency when they could've just sent JFK a message in the first months of his presidency as was done with Reagan? JFK had the mafia on his side, then went behind their back. Reagan was a film star in California.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Foxsteak
JFK had the mafia on his side, then went behind their back. Reagan was a film star in California.
Even if that's true, why would the CIA care about whether the President has the mafia on his side?

dadudemon
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Even if that's true, why would the CIA care about whether the President has the mafia on his side?

I don't understand your question. Why would the CIA care about a massive multi-billion dollar criminal organization being behind the US President? Would that not be an extremely important thing for the CIA, in very specific particulars, to care about? Of all the organizations, the CIA is the best suited organization for that with the FBI coming in a distant second.

socool8520
Yeah, a President under the thumb of a corrupt organization like the Mafia seems like the kind of thing the CIA would be interested in.

dadudemon
Originally posted by socool8520
Yeah, a President under the thumb of a corrupt organization like the Mafia seems like the kind of thing the CIA would be interested in.

AG is good people: he may have a point and I am missing it. I'll wait for his response before I continue to shit on his idea.

socool8520
Aaahhh, unless the premise is that Foxsteak believes that the Mafia would somehow defend or aid JFK if they came after him early on.

Then I would agree with Artificial Glory. The CIA would not be scared of the Mafia.

Foxsteak
I stated that he turned on the mafia. He was on their side for campaign support then lost Cuba and tried thwarting CIA plans in Cuba which were beneficial to the Mafia.

The fact that he betrayed the mafia's trust and went behind the CIA is the context here.

socool8520
Are you saying they didn't kill him sooner because at the time, the CIA and Mafia had similar goals?

dadudemon
Originally posted by 2142
We know the CIA and or Secret Service did it, we just don't know who.

After all he died shortly after he said he was going to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.

The CIA has long been a Rouge Paramilitary Organization operating inside the US.

Shouldn't we get the documentation, now? Today? Where is it?

Foxsteak
Originally posted by socool8520
Are you saying they didn't kill him sooner because at the time, the CIA and Mafia had similar goals? They didn't kill him sooner because it's killing the Fing president in 1963. The CIA were working on Cuba and killing Castro. By 1963, Kennedy had almost completely gotten the CIA out of Cuba, at which point those trained assassins went to kill Kennedy. The mafia aided the CIA.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by socool8520
Aaahhh, unless the premise is that Foxsteak believes that the Mafia would somehow defend or aid JFK if they came after him early on.

Then I would agree with Artificial Glory. The CIA would not be scared of the Mafia.
Yeah, that's what I meant. If anything, the CIA would have killed him sooner.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by 2142
There are some secrets that never come out, like Area 51, and other black sites, those are never revealed. They keep being re classified.
Area 51 is open secret. Even so, Area 51 is an on-going affair while the JFK assassination is not.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Yeah, that's what I meant. If anything, the CIA would have killed him sooner. The CIA has ties with the mafia.

My fault for missing out parts. JFK was on their side until the Cuban missle crisis.

Surtur
I think it's likely his dad got mafia help in helping him win certain places, mainly Illinois. Was the mafia on his side? Probably not after his bro started going after them.

That is one of the theories some put forth for a mob hit behind JFKs death. They helped him with the election and then he let his brother go after them, so they got mad. They could have carried it out, they could not have covered it up though. They would have needed help.

Raisen
the Kennedy's became prominent bootlegging with the mafia

Surtur
Indeed, and it earned Joe Kennedy an appearance on Boardwalk Empire.

#WorthIt

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Foxsteak
The CIA has ties with the mafia.

My fault for missing out parts. JFK was on their side until the Cuban missle crisis.
So many claims, so little proof.

Surtur
JFK was intending to splinter the CIA up before he died. I don't think they work hand in hand with the mafia or anything. I'm sure there are people they do get tips from, etc.

In the past yeah there was a time when the mafia could accomplish things our government agencies couldn't, but unfortunately we learned to really out-shady them.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
JFK was intending to splinter the CIA up before he died. I don't think they work hand in hand with the mafia or anything. I'm sure there are people they do get tips from, etc.

In the past yeah there was a time when the mafia could accomplish things our government agencies couldn't, but unfortunately we learned to really out-shady them. The mafia are important in understanding the context. They benefitted greatly from Cuban casinos and Kennedy worked with them and gained their support which was what made him so famous in the run up to the election. Even Sinatra sang "everybody's voting for Jack" like he was a man of the people.

1960 would have been between Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon but Kennedy surprised everyone.

Then he tries to take down the CIA who were working in mafia interests to get rid of Castro and bring it back under US control. The Russians planned to put missles in Cuba and Kennedy had no choice but to stop CIA raids in Cuba. The people behind the raids were involved in the Kennedy assassination only to later be in the watergate scandal.

Robtard
Who needs proof of claims when you have feelings

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Who needs proof of claims when you have feelings

Oh my...lol, do you see the hilarity in what you just said? As a leftist?

Robtard
I see the staleness of yet another "No you!" retort because you have nothing intelligent to say, but had to type something anyways. Do better for yourself.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
I see the staleness of yet another "No you!" retort because you have nothing intelligent to say, but had to type something anyways. Do better for yourself.

So you don't see it? Okay.

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.