Evan Peters Quicksilver vs Ultron

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Impediment
Imagine if Evan Peters' (Fox) Quicksilver were at the Sokovia battle in Age of Ultron all by himself instead of any of the Avengers.

Could QS win?

Could QS stop Ultron's plan?

tkitna
No. To many Ultron bots. Eventually one of them will hit him.

TheLordofMurder
Quicksilver clears easily...

Fox Quicksilver moves @ around 10% the speed of light while in motion; Ultron nor any of his clones havent demonstrated anywhere near the speed needed to react to him...much less track him.

As long as he doesnt stop moving, they cant lay a hair on him...

Whenever he needs a break, he can simply run off somewhere safe, and return whenever he's ready...

Without PIS being a factor, there is nothing Ultron or his clones can do to stop him...

Impediment
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Quicksilver clears easily...

Fox Quicksilver moves @ around 10% the speed of light while in motion; Ultron nor any of his clones havent demonstrated anywhere near the speed needed to react to him...much less track him.

As long as he doesnt stop moving, they cant lay a hair on him...

Whenever he needs a break, he can simply run off somewhere safe, and return whenever he's ready...

Without PIS being a factor, there is nothing Ultron or his clones can do to stop him...

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Silent Master
Correct me if I'm wrong but Quicksilver doesn't actually have the damage output needed to damage final form Ultron.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Correct me if I'm wrong but Quicksilver doesn't actually have the damage output needed to damage final form Ultron.

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Was thinking the same thing.

I don't see how Quick Silver can even damage Ultron.

TheVaultDweller
Quicksilver loses. Especially if he has to replicate everything the Avengers did at the end. Because he has no means to prevent the city from continuing its travel upwards, no means of stopping it should it start to plummet, no means of getting any of the civilians off the rock, and no means of harming final form Ultron, or cutting him off from the internet, like Vision did. Because Peter isn't doing shit to him if a Mjolnir hit from Vision couldn't even cause a scratch. Quicksilver should be able to easily steamroll through all the fodder drones though.

BruceSkywalker
Ultron crosses him off the blacklist

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
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Was thinking the same thing.

I don't see how Quick Silver can even damage Ultron.

You are not thinking creatively; he doesnt even have to harm Ultron...

All he has to do is stop Ultrons plans for Sokovia; whats to stop QS from either sabotaging (or simply removing) the thrusters that will take Sokovia skyward?

Its not like QS wouldnt notice what was happening long before the situation became deadly, and Ultron nor his clones move anywhere near fast eough to stop QS from sabotaging his plan...


Remember unless something is moving at supersonic speed at the minimum, you are a statue to QS (the dude successfully evacuated an entire mansion mid-explosion...let that sink in for a moment).

He has all the time he needs to stop Ultron as a result; 10% the speed of light is really, really, really, fast afterall....

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You are not thinking creatively; he doesnt even have to harm Ultron...

All he has to do is stop Ultrons plans for Sokovia; whats to stop QS from either sabotaging (or simply removing) the thrusters that will take Sokovia skyward?

Its not like QS wouldnt notice what was happening long before the situation became deadly, and Ultron nor his clones move anywhere near fast eough to stop QS from sabotaging his plan...


Remember unless something is moving at supersonic speed at the minimum, you are a statue to QS (the dude successfully evacuated an entire mansion mid-explosion...let that sink in for a moment).

He has all the time he needs to stop Ultron as a result; 10% the speed of light is really, really, really, fast afterall....

The OP never said his goal was to stop ultron.

He just say, can he win? So in that aspect he cant defeat Ultron.

Stop him yes.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The OP never said his goal was to stop ultron.

He just say, can he win? So in that aspect he cant defeat Ultron.

Stop him yes.

I'm glad you agree with me...

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Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'm glad you agree with me...

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He could savotage Ultrons plans...defeat him however, dont see how.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
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He could savotage Ultrons plans...defeat him however, dont see how.

If he sabotages Ultrons plans he does defeat him in that instance...

Ultron would have failed in what he wanted to accomplish (effectively turn Sokovia into an Extinction Level Event impactor)...


QS plan: stop Sokovia from being turned into a ELE impactor...success.
Ultrons plan: turn Sokovia into an ELE impactor...failed.


QS wins...

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
If he sabotages Ultrons plans he does defeat him in that instance...

Ultron would have failed in what he wanted to accomplish (effectively turn Sokovia into an Extinction Level Event impactor)...


QS plan: stop Sokovia from being turned into a ELE impactor...success.
Ultrons plan: turn Sokovia into an ELE impactor...failed.


QS wins...

Yes.

But not in a 1 to 1 combat.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yes.

But not in a 1 to 1 combat.

Well thats part of the creativity in this thread; you dont have to always beat someones teeth in to defeat them...

The Doctor Strange movie illustrated that point perfectly...


Anyway, QS wins this thread, but I do agree with you that he doesnt win in a pure 1 on 1 fight...

If they fought 1 on 1, it would be a stalemate...

Darth Thor
Let's not forget QS got gun down by a sonic blast. Given that you got believe one of the drones or Ultron himself will tag QS eventually.

Impediment
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Let's not forget QS got gun down by a sonic blast. Given that you got believe one of the drones or Ultron himself will tag QS eventually.

This QS is from Fox's X-Men films.

KingD19
Originally posted by Impediment
This QS is from Fox's X-Men films.

He's talking about Fox QS. When Stryker showed up at the mansion and turned on a sonic pulse that ko'd every mutant in the vicinity, including Peter.

However, Peter wasn't trying to fight and wasn't even using his speed(it's shown he has to turn it on and off) so he wasn't expecting to get ear thumped. If he'd been using his speed, every soldier there would be unconscious before the guy could get near the button.

It's all a moot point though, as Ultron nor his drones showed any attack that could get to Pete.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well thats part of the creativity in this thread; you dont have to always beat someones teeth in to defeat them...

The Doctor Strange movie illustrated that point perfectly...


Anyway, QS wins this thread, but I do agree with you that he doesnt win in a pure 1 on 1 fight...

If they fought 1 on 1, it would be a stalemate...

No stalemate. One punch from Ultron and he dies.

But i agree with everything else.

KingD19
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No stalemate. One punch from Ultron and he dies.

But i agree with everything else.

Can Ultron hit him though? The answer is no, not at all. Quicksilver moves so fast the entire time he's moving, Ultron will be stuck in that split second the fight started.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by KingD19
Can Ultron hit him though? The answer is no, not at all. Quicksilver moves so fast the entire time he's moving, Ultron will be stuck in that split second the fight started.

The thing is Quicksilver is childish and even irresponsible when fighting.

Quicksilver won't be able to harm Ultron. Although Ultron isn't as fast, his sensors might be. He might be able to still detect Quicksilver.

If Ultron manages to predict Quicksilvers direction he could perhaps grab him or lay a punch.


One punch from Ultron and Quicksilver is done.

I think it is easier for Ultron to win than for QS.

KingD19
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The thing is Quicksilver is childish and even irresponsible when fighting.

Quicksilver won't be able to harm Ultron. Although Ultron isn't as fast, his sensors might be. He might be able to still detect Quicksilver.

If Ultron manages to predict Quicksilvers direction he could perhaps grab him or lay a punch.


One punch from Ultron and Quicksilver is done.

I think it is easier for Ultron to win than for QS.

There's no "might be" in the MVF. Did Ultron show he could react to someone as fast as Peter? Because he's like 50x faster than the Avengers version. Ultron will be frozen in time, as he's not faster than a bullet or an explosion and those are slowed to crawls for minutes at a time for Quicksilver.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by KingD19
There's no "might be" in the MVF. Did Ultron show he could react to someone as fast as Peter? Because he's like 50x faster than the Avengers version. Ultron will be frozen in time, as he's not faster than a bullet or an explosion and those are slowed to crawls for minutes at a time for Quicksilver.

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@Josh

Quicksilver can LITERALLY move at 18000+ miles per second...

Not miles per hour...thats miles per second.

Let that sink in for a moment, and then ask yourself again: "how in the heck does Ultron hit him!??"

John Murdoch
QS, minus PIS/CIS, EASILY clears this. Only question is how creative he has to get to dismantle Ultron Prime and, if need be, the thruster activation button and the thrusters themselves.

The bots all get scrapped in an instant, and then it's just a matter of time for Ultron. Three most difficult things for Peter to accomplish:

1. Dismantling the thrusters/thruster switch button.
2. Preventing Ultron from escaping into the internet (if this is required, I don't see how he stops Ultron from escaping, but QS can still stop Sokovia from being destroyed and destroying the Earth).
3. Deciding what song to jam out to whilst running at Mach 100k on his Walkman.

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