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I ask anyone to show me a successful communist country that wasn't horrible.

I ask you to show me a communist country period.

And just in case anyone on here is from Antifa or something: Star Trek is not a valid example.

I was once a communist for half a year. It was more of a Russian craze really. I was a 13 year old who didn't (and still doesn't) have their head on straight.

I think Communism is not something that can really work at this point in time. I agree with Afro that right now totalitarianism is really the only way for communism to really function in any form, and totalitarian governments are always going to be doomed to fail.

That said I do think certain aspects of Communism, or Socialism or whatever you want to call it, will probably become the norm in the future. I think UBI is inevitable and will probably happen within most of our lifetimes. I also think something like money no longer being used as an exchange may happen, but probably not for a long time.

Originally posted by Kurk
I was once a communist for half a year. It was more of a Russian craze really. I was a 13 year old who didn't (and still doesn't) have their head on straight.

I can relate, I once saw an episode of Seinfeld where Elaine dated a communist.

Communism would be acceptable.....if you take out the basic nature of human beings. Since you can't, it's a horrible pipe dream.

You will never be able to convince the majority to hand over their hard earned wealth to people who haven't earned it. You may be able to get them to help the needy, but not the entire populace. I'm a strong believer in working hard to get what you want.

You guys 'member Communism? From the 20th century?



I 'member.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You guys 'member Communism? From the 20th century?



I 'member.
'member the death star?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You guys 'member Communism? From the 20th century?



I 'member.
And 'member the gulags? Oooooh, I 'member!

You 'member the guys Stalin took out of photographs?

Me neither.

Has there ever really been a "Communist Country"? Most of the Shit Holes that The Left like to say are Commie are really Socialist. Big Diff between the two.

Heck the early U.S Colonies tried Commie-nism...They found it sucked Turkey Balls and chucked it for Capitalism and True Freedom. The Great Experiment. Too bad we got all the New Leftist Progressive Socialist Fascists here putting an end to it.

Originally posted by BackFire
I think Communism is not something that can really work at this point in time. I agree with Afro that right now totalitarianism is really the only way for communism to really function in any form, and totalitarian governments are always going to be doomed to fail.

That said I do think certain aspects of Communism, or Socialism or whatever you want to call it, will probably become the norm in the future. I think UBI is inevitable and will probably happen within most of our lifetimes. I also think something like money no longer being used as an exchange may happen, but probably not for a long time.
Yeah, I imagine as society progresses, more aspects of "communism, socialism, or whatever you want to call it will be ingrained in society". There's already plenty of it ingrained in many developed countries. Universal health care for example.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Yeah, I imagine as society progresses, more aspects of "communism, socialism, or whatever you want to call it will be ingrained in society". There's already plenty of it ingrained in many developed countries. Universal health care for example.

Yes. Humanity as a whole are making great strides to erase freedom from human culture.

We really don't have examples of a succesful communist country, the URSS being the most arguably succesful one and it ended up pitting itself against richer countries in a war on influence. People say that totalitarism cannot work... Except it did, for centuries, all over the world. Prosperity will make anything work, from universal healthcare, to gun owning, to having a frigging King. But of course, what prosperity represents can shift from in different cultures, so if freedom (for example) was considered a measure of prosperity, totalitarism would struggle to ever achieve it. This doesn't mean cultural values cannot change, maybe people will stop holding freedom so high in their values and allow themselves to be monitored and charged for internet services.

Communism is bound to change like everything else, so in that sense, it cannot be entirely succesful as something ethereal and eternal.

What is it with people 'thinking' communism and socialism is going to work? It never worked and never will work. Get over it and start working on something that works like real capitalism, something that doesn't kill and force anyone to do anything they don't want to do, that's freedom, I know what a revolutionary concept! Russia dumped it, the USSR was a dump because of it, and today Venezuela is suffering terribly because of it!

It was Stalin who came up with the concept of a "Communist Country". Before Stalin, Lenin and others believed Communism was impossible for one single country to adopt, and could only work if it was a globalist system.

One time I watched this documentary that said this one time FDR and Stalin laughed at the britishness of Winston Churchill and it made Churchill's face turn red.

1. inimalist and I discussed this topic quite a bit. I could just repost our converstaion to cover not only my points but also his. But I am lazy and just don't want to make the effort.


2. NewGuy01 is correct with his rhetoric: from a technical point of view, no communistic country has existed, yet. Only socialist republics and states. Marxist Socialism is the first step to reach Communism.

And "First step" according to Marxism is evil, oppressive, tyrannical, and genocidal. And once you reach the impossible to reach hypothetical communist utopia, all it takes is one person who decides they want private property, and either the whole thing falls apart or the person gets oppressed or killed by the society.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And "First step" according to Marxism is evil, oppressive, tyrannical, and genocidal. And once you reach the impossible to reach hypothetical communist utopia, all it takes is one person who decides they want private property, and either the whole thing falls apart or the person gets oppressed or killed by the society.

It basically sets the stage for dictators too. Over and over.

Every Communist country stalls at the dictatorship of the proletariat. The guys who are supposed to transition power post-Revolution to the people have a tendency to do that whole... guys who have absolute power thing. They keep it. They've all read the Dictator's Handbook, they're not stupid enough to let power go.



You guys 'member Cincinnatus? Rome 'members.

So you are in full support of Socialist Dictatorships then Lucy?

Originally posted by dadudemon
NewGuy01 is correct with his rhetoric: from a technical point of view, no communistic country has existed, yet. Only socialist republics and states. Marxist Socialism is the first step to reach Communism.

I don't think a completely communistic country can exist. You would have to convince every person that no matter what you do or how great your achievements, you make and get the same as everyone else. I guess you could try and force the concept, but then you run into revolution. I just can't see it happening

Start that revolution and in a few short decades you too could star in many a hipster t-shirts.

Regardless of how contradictory is to your "beliefs".

That is OK for the Left. They don't have any "BELIEFS".

Why did they ban you? I thought you were being allowed to stay?

Originally posted by Badacucks1
Tiny dick syndrome I guess.

Lol wait so they told you that you could stay then banned you?

I have to say yeah...that kinda is tiny dick syndrome.

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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
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