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yes. jewish people...

it seems that the two main parties in America are polarized(like everything else) regarding what America's relationship to Israel should be.

I've noticed that many "liberals" believe that Israel is causing it's own problems and "conservatives" seem to place Israel on a pedestal despite logical reasoning(this is me being intellectually honest despite my general conservative leanings)


I have a serious question and I want people to be open with their thoughts without fear of being labeled.

The country of Israel is a fairly recent creation...Why have the Jewish people consistently been forced out of many countries? Why are they so blamed? Why do they seem to be singled out?

Referencing religious scripture is not factual evidence here.

BE OBJECTIVE AND PROVIDE SOUND REASONINGS RATHER THAN BIAS.

Israel =/= Jews

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Israel =/= Jews

Yeah, talk about a can 'o' worms here.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Yeah, talk about a can 'o' worms here.

lol. I know this is probably a shiit storm waiting to happen.

but I've read so many comments regarding Israel doing bad things in the mid east that I want someone to have the integrity to flesh out their opinion.

You pretty much created a "why were the jews persecuted" topic lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
You pretty much created a "why were the jews persecuted" topic lol.

eh

Originally posted by Surtur
You pretty much created a "why were the jews persecuted" topic lol.

Duh, they killed Jesus. ****ers.

I have no problem with jews myself. Thanks for Las Vegas, Bugsy Siegel. 'Murica.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Duh, they killed Jesus. ****ers.

lol.

I really want to see things explained without trying to use religion. I never see anybody flesh out their reasoning behind the whole Israel/middle east thing.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Duh, they killed Jesus. ****ers.
When in doubt, blame the Jews.

Originally posted by Surtur
I have no problem with jews myself. Thanks for Las Vegas, Bugsy Siegel. 'Murica.

neither do I. I've probably known 2 jewish people in my entire life.

just want to see people's logic behind Israel/middle east thing etc

Originally posted by Raisen
lol.

I really want to see things explained without trying to use religion. I never see anybody flesh out their reasoning behind the whole Israel/middle east thing.

He was joking.

Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
He was joking.

I know. but it's still a dodge.

Originally posted by Raisen
neither do I. I've probably known 2 jewish people in my entire life.


Yeah. I too can only say that I have every actually been in the same physical Proximity twice in my life too. At least to the point where you could point to them and say .."Hey that is a Jew!". Once in a Skating Rink and once in an Ice Cream Factory.

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oh look, it's our old pal "criticizing isreal=antisemitism". clown

What with you being a Anti-Semite yourself Bashy...How does that make you feel?

you're a worthless junkie? wow, cool.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh look, it's our old pal "criticizing isreal=antisemitism". clown

huh? who's doing that?

just want an answer that is actually fleshed out.

Well, you sorta asked a question about the creation of Israel, and then combined it with a question about why Jews have been persecuted so much.

Let's just say that's a peculiar combination of questions to ask.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh look, it's our old pal "criticizing isreal=antisemitism". clown

While I agree that you should be able to criticize any group/nation without it automatically be anti-whatever, is this not the logic used when others have pointed out alarming trends in a group on these forums?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Well, you sorta asked a question about the creation of Israel, and then combined it with a question about why Jews have been persecuted so much.

Let's just say that's a peculiar combination of questions to ask.

not sure i'm understanding but i'm not exactly the most educated or articulate person

Originally posted by Raisen
not sure i'm understanding but i'm not exactly the most educated or articulate person

agreed

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
agreed

at least i'm honest and have integrity. it would be nice if everybody did

Originally posted by Raisen
at least i'm honest and have integrity. it would be nice if everybody did

Don't worry about Bash. He just does it for the lulz.

Originally posted by socool8520
Don't worry about Bash. He just does it for the lulz.
I know. i'm actually pretty decent to him IMO

The only one he riles up is Surt. lol

HYG, Rais:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gOOivlhSZM

Originally posted by Robtard
HYG:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gOOivlhSZM

oh, come on rob. we're budz

? It's gives you two opposing views of Jews.

Also, your question is a bit worded weird, not exactly sure what you're asking

Originally posted by Robtard
? It's gives you two opposing views of Jews.

Also, your question is a bit worded weird, not exactly sure what you're asling

i give up.

i failed this thread

Originally posted by Robtard
? It's gives you two opposing views of Jews.

Also, your question is a bit worded weird, not exactly sure what you're asking

regarding the video that you posted:

who was right and who was wrong? and why?

Originally posted by socool8520
The only one he riles up is Surt. lol I dont know why Surt takes the bait

Me neither honestly.

Originally posted by Raisen
regarding the video that you posted:

who was right and who was wrong? and why?

When not sure, never take the side of Nazis when discussing racial issues.

^ that's a good rule of thumb Rob

For the record, I wasn't saying Raisen is a nazi or jew hater, just that I saw how that line of questioning would sound like it. I assume it was unintentional.

it's all good

Originally posted by Robtard
When not sure, never take the side of Nazis when discussing racial issues.

not even a little bit, like trump did. just don't.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
not even a little bit, like trump did. just don't.

http://rs956.pbsrc.com/albums/ae41/uh-amber/down.gif~c200

/that

Originally posted by Robtard
http://rs956.pbsrc.com/albums/ae41/uh-amber/down.gif~c200

/that
*seizure warning*

Trump is president tho. Like, that has to count as a win....