Anti-Atheist Memes (just to be fair)

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Flyattractor
http://t.qkme.me/69ef.jpg

socool8520
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7OkoY28PWjk/UdZsgb9TxeI/AAAAAAAAJ10/pvyN6v0nE7Q/s299/656_280673622053080_363361689_n.jpg

socool8520
https://andyace83.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/meme01.jpg?w=490&h=455

NewGuy01
Originally posted by socool8520
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we will never know

Flyattractor
https://escapingatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/team-atheism-v5-300x236.jpg

Bashar Teg
yeah f*ck people who don't believe what you believe. they're the ones who are intolerant, not you.

socool8520
Yeah

Flyattractor
http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/files/im/B2GFjGd.png

socool8520
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/365/519/e25.jpg

Flyattractor
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/573/610/6eb.jpg

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by socool8520
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/365/519/e25.jpg

laughing out loud

Anti-atheist memes are vacuous nonsense devoid of any real content and that meme satirizes that fact perfectly. thumb up

socool8520
lol

Flyattractor
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/39/57/d9/3957d963e7f010b5947d74e24f3db70d--atheist-meme-idiot-meme.jpg

Patient_Leech
Fly, go read your Bible and cry to Jesus. Your meme game blows.

Flyattractor
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gwhhS6kGab4/VMJSOFpHELI/AAAAAAAAAUU/uvFfmCQNd1w/s1600/meme883221cbe3e1e049.jpg

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Flyattractor
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/39/57/d9/3957d963e7f010b5947d74e24f3db70d--atheist-meme-idiot-meme.jpg

...what is this even in reference to? I don't think there's ever been a single openly atheist congressman, supreme court justice, or president, so it can't be talking about America.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by NewGuy01
...what is this even in reference to? I don't think there's ever been a single openly atheist congressman, supreme court justice, or president, so it can't be talking about America.

It kind of goes with the "Separation of Church and State Argument".

ArtificialGlory
slKULc8W7lM

socool8520
^ lol.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Fly, go read your Bible and cry to Jesus. Your meme game blows.

I would ask what do you cry into Pat, but then I remember...You got nuffin.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by NewGuy01
...what is this even in reference to? I don't think there's ever been a single openly atheist congressman, supreme court justice, or president, so it can't be talking about America.

That's exactly why these memes are vacuous accusations. But that's okay, let Fly have his fantasy world. smile

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's exactly why these memes are vacuous accusations. But that's okay, let Fly have his fantasy world. smile

Gee Thanks! You Atheist are the nicest of Soulless People..

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/picture/1044414/85318801.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zwHvWVi.jpg

Nuke Nixon
https://78.media.tumblr.com/043c420fdd127811c55d907a9087e388/tumblr_oylmjcvfOZ1wzdaq1o1_540.jpg

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
https://78.media.tumblr.com/043c420fdd127811c55d907a9087e388/tumblr_oylmjcvfOZ1wzdaq1o1_540.jpg

laughing out loud I like this one.

The answer is, "not tribal desert people who died 4,000 years ago," though.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by NewGuy01
laughing out loud I like this one.

The answer is, "not tribal desert people who died 4,000 years ago," though.

I wanted to post that one but couldn't find a decent link to it.

An the Rebuttal to that is. No. They were written by biased pricks who were born in modern times but still act like a bunch of tribal desert people.

MythLord
http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/thank-you-jesus-atheist-meme.jpg

NewGuy01
Wrong thread.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by MythLord
http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/thank-you-jesus-atheist-meme.jpg

Dear Jesus. Please open up Mythlords heart enough that he/she/it would try to help that African Child like the other two people in that meme did.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Dear Jesus. Please open up Mythlords heart enough that he/she/it would try to help that African Child like the other two people in that meme did.
No, they didn't, the cucks.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
No, they didn't, the cucks.

Prove it.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Prove it.
Prove that they did?

Nuke Nixon
Originally posted by MythLord
http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/thank-you-jesus-atheist-meme.jpg

The very condemnation of modern Christianity, how they can preach to everyone atop their ivory hilltop and cast a blind eye on children starving and dying, among other atrocities this world heaps upon it's peoples.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Prove that they did?

I challenged you first.

Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
The very condemnation of modern Christianity, how they can preach to everyone atop their ivory hilltop and cast a blind eye on children starving and dying, among other atrocities this world heaps upon it's peoples.

The Christians do lots of stuff, it is the soulless people like Mythlord and ArtificalGlory that stand in the way of it. Besides that is a pic of a small child. Just consider it a Late Term Abortion and that makes it all ok.

Nuke Nixon
Speaking of abortion...

http://www.mommyish.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/aef98048b32998281706b4527e5a8fd5__1395232536_142.196.167.223.jpg

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Flyattractor
I challenged you first.



The Christians do lots of stuff, it is the soulless people like Mythlord and ArtificalGlory that stand in the way of it. Besides that is a pic of a small child. Just consider it a Late Term Abortion and that makes it all ok.
You made the claim first.

I certainly don't stand in anyone's way. Do what you will.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
You made the claim first.

I certainly don't stand in anyone's way. Do what you will.

Which is more then what you do.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Which is more then what you do.
What do you mean? You made the claim that the people in the picture aided African children and now it's up to you to prove it.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Flyattractor
https://escapingatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/team-atheism-v5-300x236.jpg lmao

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/17/0d/3e170d714120cde4a979138abecb046c.jpg
http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/2016/05/checkmate-atheists-vampires.png
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-dc2ff78facec36edf4aac9145cfcef1b-c

TethAdamTheRock
thumb up

NewGuy01
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
What do you mean? You made the claim that the people in the picture aided African children and now it's up to you to prove it.

Yeah, not how it works. If you'd asked him for proof to begin with, it'd be a different story, but you went out and said that they didn't, so you're equally responsible for backing up your claim.

socool8520
If that's supposed to be Tim Tebow, then he does have a charitable foundation in his name. It deal more with curing disease in children rather than feeding them, and it's hard to say how much he has personally contributed outside of his name. His foundation has donated somewhere around 5 million I believe. Always thought he was a nice enough guy just a shit QB at the pro level.

The other lady, who the hell knows?

Flyattractor
I just enjoy watching the Soulless Atheists show just how hate filled they really are in a thread like this.

Emperordmb
It'd be much more practical for atheists to attack other ideologies that will observably deteriorate and collapse a country if too far spread, like say Marxism, Nazism, racial collectivism, totalitarian ideologies, etc. Say what you want about Christianity, but history has proven that societies that are majority Christian are capable of and have historically thrived, with America being a great example of this. Take societies that have embraced Marxism however and they collapse.

It seems like a perverse misemphasis to place the focus of one's criticisms on Christianity when there are plenty of other ideologies much more deserving of criticism in regards to how they're acted out in the world.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It seems like a perverse misemphasis to place the focus of one's criticisms on Christianity when there are plenty of other ideologies much more deserving of criticism in regards to how they're acted out in the world.

Don't worry. We can multitask. smile

socool8520
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It'd be much more practical for atheists to attack other ideologies that will observably deteriorate and collapse a country if too far spread, like say Marxism, Nazism, racial collectivism, totalitarian ideologies, etc. Say what you want about Christianity, but history has proven that societies that are majority Christian are capable of and have historically thrived, with America being a great example of this. Take societies that have embraced Marxism however and they collapse.

It seems like a perverse misemphasis to place the focus of one's criticisms on Christianity when there are plenty of other ideologies much more deserving of criticism in regards to how they're acted out in the world.

Atheists are against those things. What are you talking about? I've never heard an Athiest say that being a racist or Nazi is good. Have you?

socool8520
Originally posted by Flyattractor
I just enjoy watching the Soulless Atheists show just how hate filled they really are in a thread like this.

Hey now, I posted some Anti-Atheist memes and I am an Atheist. I can take a joke.

ArtificialGlory

Emperordmb
Originally posted by socool8520
Atheists are against those things. What are you talking about? I've never heard an Athiest say that being a racist or Nazi is good. Have you?
No, generally speaking though I've seen atheists emphasize criticism of Christianity over criticisms of other ideologies is the main point I'm making. The atheists who have their priorities straight are the ones who I actually think are concerned with making the world a better place even if I disagree with them on Christianity, the atheists who spend over half of their ideological criticism aimed at western religion to me seem more like they're trying to settle some personal score (such as say being pissed off at their religious family for their upbringing) than actually being motivated by altruism.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Emperordmb
No, generally speaking though I've seen atheists emphasize criticism of Christianity over criticisms of other ideologies is the main point I'm making. The atheists who have their priorities straight are the ones who I actually think are concerned with making the world a better place even if I disagree with them on Christianity, the atheists who spend over half of their ideological criticism aimed at western religion to me seem more like they're trying to settle some personal score (such as say being pissed off at their religious family for their upbringing) than actually being motivated by altruism.
I think it only makes sense for an atheist to primarily criticize religion and if they grew up in the West, that religion is almost certainly going to be Christianity.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I think it only makes sense for an atheist to primarily criticize religion and if they grew up in the West, that religion is almost certainly going to be Christianity.
Why does that make sense for the primary criticism to be of an ideology that society has been proven capable of surviving if held by a significant majority of its constituents, as opposed to ideologies that when widespread have lead to the point of rotting away whatever societies they get integrated into?

Flyattractor
https://img.memecdn.com/che-guevara_o_968426.jpg

socool8520
We've already talked about the fact that I don't think that Christianity is the major reason western civilization has done so well. However, I support religious freedom, but also the freedom to criticize just like all other things I believe are flawed. I would gladly call out Racism and discrimination as well.

ArtificialGlory

Emperordmb
Yes well why aren't their problems with things that are considerably worse? Again you aren't explaining how this is the appropriate area for emphasis.

Emperordmb
As a Christian I am naturally poised to disagree with atheism, but I certainly give way more of a shit about other points of view that are considerably more disagreeable. I spend most of my time arguing against shit political ideologies, because I don't find atheism remotely threatening in comparison.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes well why aren't their problems with things that are considerably worse? Again you aren't explaining how this is the appropriate area for emphasis.
It depends on the person what they think is the appropriate area for emphasis, not to mention the fact that people can be concerned about more than one issue at a time. Like I said, there are legit problems with Christianity that need to be called out.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Emperordmb
No, generally speaking though I've seen atheists emphasize criticism of Christianity over criticisms of other ideologies is the main point I'm making.

Naturally, because atheism is a stance on religion. It has nothing to do with anything else. If an atheist were to go after something besides religion, it wouldn't be as an atheist, if that makes sense. Just because there isn't an "atheist vs marxist" movement doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of atheists involved with anti-marxist movements.

SamZED
Originally posted by Flyattractor
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/573/610/6eb.jpg
This is more of an anti-religion meme.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Flyattractor
https://img.memecdn.com/che-guevara_o_968426.jpg We had this guy on a election poster lmao

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Flyattractor
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/39/57/d9/3957d963e7f010b5947d74e24f3db70d--atheist-meme-idiot-meme.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0a/27/a4/0a27a491ab9be53050c50bd963474b65--religious-people-anti-religion.jpg

Emperordmb
Marriage is also forced on people in third world shitholes, guess we should judge marriage to be inherently corrupt and abolish that too.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Marriage is also forced on people in third world shitholes, guess we should judge marriage to be inherently corrupt and abolish that too.

False equivalency. No one is saying BAN RELIGION or BAN MARRIAGE. The point is the man is being punished for basically what is nothing more than a thought crime. Religion gives us that great nugget of moral wisdom.

Emperordmb
Religion also gave us the great moral wisdom of inalienable rights that makes the West so great, and from that comes the tradition of there not being thought crimes in the West.

RHaggis
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Religion also gave us the great moral wisdom of inalienable rights that makes the West so great, and from that comes the tradition of there not being thought crimes in the West.

Which is why, in my view, religions should be criticised individually instead of grouping them together. Some religions are worse than others.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Religion also gave us the great moral wisdom of inalienable rights that makes the West so great...

You're going to have to do some serious work to convince me of that. I think it's more likely that inalienable rights came about in spite of religion. Maybe a belief in God helped it come about, but certainly not religious texts themselves with the condoning of slavery and subjugation of women.

Ursumeles
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL5NHFRWsAA1UoE.jpg
They got us...

Raisen
I question religion but a lot of atheists go out of their way to put down religious people who are decent. if their god doesn't exist to you then there's no need to bash. just ignore. don't virtue signal and act like you're trying to save lives. it's obvious, you're just trying to appear smarter. quit that shiit.

RHaggis
*FEDORA TIPPING INTENSIFIES*

Raisen
Originally posted by RHaggis
*FEDORA TIPPING INTENSIFIES*

I still don't know what this fedora thing means. tried looking it up but couldn't get info

RHaggis
Originally posted by Raisen
I still don't know what this fedora thing means. tried looking it up but couldn't get info

It's a meme that sort of just got associated with smug atheists.

Raisen
Originally posted by RHaggis
It's a meme that sort of just got associated with smug atheists.

thanks for the info.

Patient_Leech
Yeah, because we all wear fedoras.. lol

Originally posted by Ursumeles
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL5NHFRWsAA1UoE.jpg
They got us...

laughing out loud laughing out loud

ArtificialGlory
8:80 AM? Surely, this is Satan's work.

socool8520
^ Indeed. We can manipulate time itself. I find it funny we would pray to a dark lord that we don't believe exists as well. I guess the eating of babies would cause some mental and health issues though.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by socool8520
I find it funny we would pray to a dark lord that we don't believe exists as well.

Shut up, his malevolence is different.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by socool8520
I guess the eating of babies would cause some mental and health issues though.

laughing out loud

It's funny, but sadly this is actually probably an all-too-real perception that many people have of atheists, which is why we can't get anyone relatively reasonable elected to public office.

socool8520
The idea that we automatically worship Satan argument always gets me to laugh. lol

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Emperordmb
No, generally speaking though I've seen atheists emphasize criticism of Christianity over criticisms of other ideologies is the main point I'm making. The atheists who have their priorities straight are the ones who I actually think are concerned with making the world a better place even if I disagree with them on Christianity, the atheists who spend over half of their ideological criticism aimed at western religion to me seem more like they're trying to settle some personal score (such as say being pissed off at their religious family for their upbringing) than actually being motivated by altruism.
Or maybe Christians should focus less on preaching Christianity than they do actually solving word problems which have nothing to do with Christian faith?

But nah, leave it to religious people to try and shame atheists for not solving problems they have far more power and resources to solve than atheists do. Problems that are possibly more attributable to religious imposition, then a criticism of religion.

Last I checked, Aithiest's lack of belief isn't the reason why 38% of people in our country still believe in creationism.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Religion also gave us the great moral wisdom of inalienable rights that makes the West so great, and from that comes the tradition of there not being thought crimes in the West.
laughing
Yea, no, religion was the reason monarchy was a thing in the first place.

There's a reason that we've progressed as our society has become more secular and has less reliant on the church for the decisions we make.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
laughing
Yea, no, religion was the reason monarchy was a thing in the first place.

There's a reason that we've progressed as our society has become more secular and has less reliant on the church for the decisions we make.
A belief in God is also what Locke extracted the notion of inalienable rights from and much of his political philosophy from, and his views helped throw off the shackles of monarchy, and were a pretty significant pillar upon which our nation was built.

Again if you wanna say religion's a net negative, that's your prerogative, but if you wanna say nothing good has ever come out of it for anyone that's just you being obtuse.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Or maybe Christians should focus less on preaching Christianity than they do actually solving word problems which have nothing to do with Christian faith?
Oh, Christians don't solve world problems? You mean like every one of our presidents ever, the people who founded our country, some of our greatest civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King Jr. (who was a Christian minister), most of the people who have fought and died in wars for the US, a lot of the Christians I know who regularly donate to charity or help distribute food and clothes to poor and homeless people. But yeah no, we're all just a bunch of bloviating jackasses who care only for preaching.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
But nah, leave it to religious people to try and shame atheists for not solving problems they have far more power and resources to solve than atheists do. Problems that are possibly more attributable to religious imposition, then a criticism of religion.
I'd criticize a Christian who spent most of their ideological time bitching about atheism just as harshly.

Patient_Leech
The inalienable rights came about with a more secular approach. Not a religious one. Just because the "Creator" is involved it's still a secular understanding. If religious authorities were establishing rights they would probably deem it appropriate for people to be tortured as heretics for blasphemy. Natural rights would start disintegrating left and right.

So like I said, you'll have to do a lot of work to convince me that religion established inalienable rights. They were established despite religion.

Stigma
I always thought Atheism is the religion of memes. /shrug wink



Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The inalienable rights came about with a more secular approach. Not a religious one.. Just because the "Creator" is involved it's still a secular understanding
Elaborate?

socool8520
^ As opposed to a bunch of fairy tales? lol

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Stigma
Elaborate?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
There's a reason that we've progressed as our society has become more secular and has less reliant on the church for the decisions we make.

The very fact that the founding fathers did not make any official establishment of religion. That is by definition secular.

Stigma
Originally posted by socool8520
^ As opposed to a bunch of fairy tales? lol
Um...no need to get triggered by my remark. C'mon now, there are more serious matters at hand.


I am actually interested how Leech will elaborate his position given that he made a few interesting claims.


EDIT:

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The very fact that the founding fathers did not make any official establishment of religion. That is by definition secular.
Oh, I see. But you still need to elaborate on a few things from your post to make it clear. A few spring to mind like:

- Why invoke the Creator as the one giving the rights, though?

- What is *the Creator* in the secular worldview?

- Are spiritual/religious views influencing political doctrines or not?

etc.

socool8520
Originally posted by Stigma
Um...no need to get triggered by my remark. C'mon now, there aare more serious matters at hand.


I am actually interested how Leech will elaborate his position given that he made a few interesting claims.

No more triggered then your remark.

Stigma
Originally posted by socool8520
No more triggered then your remark.
Right....

Anyways. No matter.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Stigma
Oh, I see. But you still need to elaborate on a few things from your post to make it clear. A few spring to mind like:

- Why invoke the Creator as the one giving the rights, though?

- What is *the Creator* in the secular worldview?

- Are spiritual/religious views influencing political doctrines or not?

etc.

Because that's the way everyone thought. Darwin hadn't come around yet to push God out of the picture, lol. It's still a more secular understanding than taking laws directly from the Bible or whatever holy book like a theocracy, which is of course not what the founding fathers wanted. Therefore they were intentionally establishing a secular nation.

socool8520
Originally posted by Stigma
Right....

Anyways. No matter.


cool beans

Robtard
Get real, Jefferson created his own Bible by copy/pasting out the less crazy parts, leaving out all the magiks. This guy at best was a Deist, possibly even a proto-athiest

Patient_Leech
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/36/60/a5/3660a5133d8226caef5e4d72f9ec89a5--founding-fathers-quotes-father-quotes.jpg

Stigma
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Because that's the way everyone thought.
So..... you mean it was their religious beliefs that made them invoke the Creator as the giver of the unalienable rights.

Great thumb up

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Darwin hadn't come around yet to push God out of the picture, lol.

Is this an argument "had they known X they would probably believe Y" ? If so, you should elaborate on that. (BTW don't do that, it's impossible to prove, therefore inconsequential remark of yours)

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It's still a more secular understanding than taking laws directly from the Bible or whatever holy book like a theocracy, which is of course not what the founding fathers wanted
Genuine question:
Which countries in the Western civilization created their legal systems by taking laws directly from the Bible?

Stigma
Originally posted by Robtard
Get real, Jefferson created his own Bible by copy/pasting out the less crazy parts, leaving out all the magiks. This guy at best was a Deist, possibly even a proto-athiest
Actually, my point. thumb up

He was heavily influenced by spiritual/religious views.

Deism =/= (proto-)Atheism

socool8520
Originally posted by Stigma


Genuine question:
Which countries in the Western civilization created their legal systems by taking laws directly from the Bible?

Many of the Biblical rules aren't exclusive to the Bible though.

Robtard
Originally posted by Stigma
Actually, my point. thumb up

He was heavily influenced by spiritual/religious views.

Deism =/= (proto-)Atheism

TBF, I just made up "proto-Athiest", cos it sounded cool.

Stigma
Originally posted by Robtard
TBF, I just made up "proto-Athiest", cos it sounded cool.
It does sound coolthumb up

Stigma
Originally posted by socool8520
Many of the Biblical rules aren't exclusive to the Bible though.
Sure thing.

But...my question was: Which countries in the Western civilization created their legal systems by taking laws directly from the Bible?

Just curious. I have my suspicions, though.

Robtard
Originally posted by Stigma
It does sound coolthumb up

Read that Poland recently qualified for the World Cup. Kudos thumb up

Stigma
Originally posted by Robtard
Read that Poland recently qualified for the World Cup. Kudos thumb up
Thanks thumb up It's going to be a great World Cup.

BTW I just skimmed through the forums lately. I am not up to date, but I saw California was damaged heavily by bush fires. Hope you're OK.

socool8520
Originally posted by Stigma
Sure thing.

But...my question was: Which countries in the Western civilization created their legal systems by taking laws directly from the Bible?

Just curious. I have my suspicions, though.

From what I know, all of them.

Patient_Leech
My only point was to contradict Emperordmb's notion that we get our Natural rights because of religion and not secular notions. They may have been religious people that came up with them, but that's not the same as them coming about because of religion. Religion was the only game in town, so of course these notions came from religious people. But they are notions that are straying from the conventional religious notions at the time. Like you said, deism seems a natural progression from the traditional theism of a personal and involved Creator.

socool8520
Well basic morality has been hinted at being around longer than any organized religion. It would make sense that this basic morality would be adopted by the different religions.

Stigma
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
My only point was to contradict Emperordmb's notion that we get our Natural rights because of religion and not secular notions. They may have been religious people that came up with them, but that's not the same as them coming about because of religion. Religion was the only game in town, so of course these notions came from religious people. But they are notions that are straying from the conventional religious notions at the time. Like you said, deism seems a natural progression from the traditional theism of a personal and involved Creator.
Cool thumb up

TBH I'm not going to argue semantics nor press you any longer. I guess I grew kinda lazy for longer debates.....


Anyways, I see your point. And I kinda see Emperor's point too.

Stigma
Originally posted by socool8520
From what I know, all of them.
Then you don't know much, do you? stick out tongue

socool8520
Which ones don't?

Stigma
Originally posted by socool8520
Which ones don't?
Um....that's not how it works.

Which ones do? Your statement was a dodge/generalizaiton. Give me specifics. I am curious myself.


BTW the question is about directly getting laws from the Bible into legal system. I am curious about evidence of that.

socool8520
The basic commandments or all of them? It's a vague question.

I don't know of a western civilization where things like murder, rape, theft, etc. are acceptable.

Robtard
Originally posted by Stigma
Thanks thumb up It's going to be a great World Cup.

BTW I just skimmed through the forums lately. I am not up to date, but I saw California was damaged heavily by bush fires. Hope you're OK.

Yeah, had a serious string of fires about 40miles North of me, so I just got a lot of shit smoke. thanks

Stigma
Originally posted by socool8520
The basic commandments or all of them? It's a vague question.
Not at all.


There is a difference between laws influenced by religious beliefs, and laws taken directly from a religious book and inserted into legal system.

Again. I feel like we're arguing semantics..

But as a hint I would point out the Separation of Church and State that was (is) operating in Christendom.

socool8520
Originally posted by Stigma
Not at all.


There is a difference between laws influenced by religious beliefs, and laws taken directly from a religious book and inserted into legal system.

Are you saying word for word? Though shalt not ..... and all? Then I honestly don't know.

Robtard
Native American tribes/cultures had societal laws not based on Judaeo/Christian values/scripture, per colonization of course.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Stigma
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TBH I'm not going to argue semantics nor press you any longer. I guess I grew kinda lazy for longer debates.....


Anyways, I see your point. And I kinda see Emperor's point too.

It just annoys me when people try to say that the US is a "Christian nation" because the founding fathers believed in God and knew the Bible. Religion was the only game in town. But they established a secular nation, precisely not to establish any particular religion and that's a big reason why the US has flourished like it has.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Oh, Christians don't solve world problems? You mean like every one of our presidents ever, the people who founded our country, some of our greatest civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King Jr. (who was a Christian minister), most of the people who have fought and died in wars for the US, a lot of the Christians I know who regularly donate to charity or help distribute food and clothes to poor and homeless people. But yeah no, we're all just a bunch of bloviating jackasses who care only for preaching.

Absolutely nothing you've said has to do with the specific beliefs of Christianity, just values you can get from or without religion, hence Christianity isn't necessary for the discussion.

And as you've touched upon, Christianity has been vested way more power than aitheism has. Hence if you want to obligate someone to solve problems in the world, it should be Christians.
Originally posted by Emperordmb

I'd criticize a Christian who spent most of their ideological time bitching about atheism just as harshly.
Except b!tching about Aitheism is exactly what you're doing.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Absolutely nothing you've said has to do with the specific beliefs of Christianity, just values you can get from or without religion, hence Christianity isn't necessary for the discussion.
Yeah and what can you cite the good that atheists do that is specific to a lack of belief in God by that token?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Except b!tching about Aitheism is exactly what you're doing.

1. I'm not bitching about atheism as a whole no, I'm bitching about a subset of atheists.

2. Unlike several atheists who make shitting on religion the focus of their ideological pursuit and don't have their priorities straight (which is what I was complaining about), I focus a lot more criticism on certain political and philosophical ideologies that are significantly more harmful than what anyone could drum up either Christianity or atheism to be if they tried.

3. Nice self-censorship, couldn't bring yourself to type the actual word?

Lord Lucien
In the last three pages I've only seen 2 different memes in this thread about memes.


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Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah and what can you cite the good that atheists do that is specific to a lack of belief in God by that token?

virtually all scientific and societal progress has been made possible by a separation from religious belief as a source of reason. If religion had it's way we'd still think the earth was at the center of the universe, systematically wipe out Muslims, and wrap up gay people in cigarettes before setting them aflame.

Aithiesm is simply the lack of religious belief and hence any decision that's ever been made in spite of or regardless of religious belief is a result of making policy on atheistic rather than religious grounds.

The weakening influence of religious belief has done us good, and that is despite the religious wielding far greater political power and resources than the non-religious over the course of history.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
2. Unlike several atheists who make shitting on religion the focus of their ideological pursuit and don't have their priorities straight (which is what I was complaining about), I focus a lot more criticism on certain political and philosophical ideologies that are significantly more harmful than what anyone could drum up either Christianity or atheism to be if they tried.

You are aware the concept that discussing your disagreement with religion as a concept and condemning slavery or mass murder aren't mutually exclusive concepts?

Brining up these unrelated problems is just a silly way to deflect from the problems that religion still causes us as a society.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
3. Nice self-censorship, couldn't bring yourself to type the actual word?
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That's relevant.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
virtually all scientific and societal progress has been made possible by a separation from religious belief as a source of reason. If religion had it's way we'd still think the earth was at the center of the universe, systematically wipe out Muslims, and wrap up gay people in cigarettes before setting them aflame.

Aithiesm is simply the lack of religious belief and hence any decision that's ever been made in spite of or regardless of religious belief is a result of making policy on atheistic rather than religious grounds.

The weakening influence of religious belief has done us good, and that is despite the religious wielding far greater political power and resources than the non-religious over the course of history.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
In the last three pages I've only seen 2 different memes in this thread about memes.


Title is misleading. 2/10. Unsubscribed.

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Well, the thread was really just a troll attempt by Fly. So you can't really expect much out of that.

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