Britain. Russia Interfered with your BREXIT!?

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Flyattractor
Ther Rascally Russian Villain was BEHIND IT ALL!?

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Nuke Nixon
Hey if they can't be a superpower they might as well bring down everyone else, even the playing field.

Flyattractor
What a mean thing to say about Britain...

Foxsteak
Thank you, based Putin.

Did you do Catalan, as well?

Surtur
Russia is becoming such an easy scapegoat. How long until we blame Putin for climate change?

Nuke Nixon
How many governments have we screwed with, influenced or toppled?

Why is it so terrible when other countries try to be us?

Surtur
Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
How many governments have we screwed with, influenced or toppled?

Why is it so terrible when other countries try to be us?

Lol, we've flat out installed dictators in other countries and then prevented elections because we didn't think our guy would win. Then when the dictator...behaved like a dictator we allowed him to get overthrown. Oh, he ended up shot to death in the coup. Or we can talk about the heroin our intelligence agencies helped bring into the country in the 1970s lol. Then in the same decade we declare a war on drugs, because this country is bi polar as f*ck.

But grr, those Russians, how dare they do what we do. Rules for thee, but not for me.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, we've flat out installed dictators in other countries and then prevented elections because we didn't think our guy would win. Then when the dictator...behaved like a dictator we allowed him to get overthrown. Oh, he ended up shot to death in the coup. Or we can talk about the heroin our intelligence agencies helped bring into the country in the 1970s lol. Then in the same decade we declare a war on drugs, because this country is bi polar as f*ck.

But grr, those Russians, how dare they do what we do. Rules for thee, but not for me. The biggest irony is Russia most likely had nothing to do with either of the elections.

I remember during the debates when Trump was a sore loser for not accepting the results before they came out. Hillary mentioned Russia dozens of times in the debates like she wanted war with them. She said "Russia poses the biggest threat to our national security."

It's almost as if all this was planned out ahead of time....

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
The biggest irony is Russia most likely had nothing to do with either of the elections.

I remember during the debates when Trump was a sore loser for not accepting the results before they came out. Hillary mentioned Russia dozens of times in the debates like she wanted war with them. She said "Russia poses the biggest threat to our national security."

It's almost as if all this was planned out ahead of time....

It's hilarious how just a few years ago these pricks laughed at Mitt Romney for saying the same things about Russia lol. What little dweebs.

The Russian ads...like 40% of them came after the election. Trump lost states where hundreds of Russian ads appeared, won states with far less adds(like 50). It's asinine.

We also literally invented an assassination gun. You might be wondering...well any gun can kill, but nope...this was meant to murder without making it seem like murder. It would simulate like a heart attack or something if you got shot with it.

But hey, we need to trust these intelligence agencies that have repeatedly lied to us, installed dictators, etc.

Did you know our government more or less murdered people during prohibition? Purposely added some poison to a substance they knew would be used to make cheap liquor. Then basically shrugged their shoulders over the deaths. 'Murica.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
It's hilarious how just a few years ago these pricks laughed at Mitt Romney for saying the same things about Russia lol. What little dweebs.

The Russian ads...like 40% of them came after the election. Trump lost states where hundreds of Russian ads appeared, won states with far less adds(like 50). It's asinine.

We also literally invented an assassination gun. You might be wondering...well any gun can kill, but nope...this was meant to murder without making it seem like murder. It would simulate like a heart attack or something if you got shot with it.

But hey, we need to trust these intelligence agencies that have repeatedly lied to us, installed dictators, etc.

Did you know our government more or less murdered people during prohibition? Purposely added some poison to a substance they knew would be used to make cheap liquor. Then basically shrugged their shoulders over the deaths. 'Murica. ice dart heart attack guns have been around since the 60s.

And what Russian ads?

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
ice dart heart attack guns have been around since the 60s.

And what Russian ads?

You know this whole business about "Dem Russians bought ads and put it on social media and other stuff!". The implication by imbeciles is this influenced the election into Hilary's favor.

But like I said, they ignore inconvenient truths, like states that had hundreds of ads not giving Trump the victory. And you will not see most mention how nearly half the ads appeared after the election was over and not even all of them were political.

Oh, and we can also talk about one other thing we did: project paper clip. We literally made it to the moon because of nazis lol.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
You know this whole business about "Dem Russians bought ads and put it on social media and other stuff!". The implication by imbeciles is this influenced the election into Hilary's favor.

But like I said, they ignore inconvenient truths, like states that had hundreds of ads not giving Trump the victory. And you will not see most mention how nearly half the ads appeared after the election was over and not even all of them were political.

Oh, and we can also talk about one other thing we did: project paper clip. We literally made it to the moon because of nazis lol. Oh I remember. The Russians hacked facebook and put negative Hillary memes on there or something. Lies like when she laughed about that girl getting raped at 12.

They can't be serious. crylaugh

Kurk
I hate this world and the people who inhabit it.

Nuke Nixon
They yell about Russians interfering with our country on social media...

What about all the Hollywood movies designed to break up the Soviet Bloc?

Nuke Nixon
Originally posted by Kurk
I hate this world and the people who inhabit it.

I hear good things about Mars, not a lot of folks there yet.

Surtur
Don't hate the world, there is a lot of good and nice things. Unfortunately horrible people exist and we are now in an era where we tippy toe around feelings.

Remember the 80s? God dammit, you could say anything. Now nearly everyone is a little b*tch.

Nuke Nixon
I didn't have a car in the 80s, had to get parents to drive me anywhere.

Otherwise a quality decade.

Surtur
Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
I didn't have a car in the 80s, had to get parents to drive me anywhere.

Otherwise a quality decade.

I didn't have a car either, but I was 5 years old. Personally I blame the patriarchy.

Nuke Nixon
Yeah White Men suck.

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Kurk
Originally posted by Surtur
Don't hate the world, there is a lot of good and nice things. Unfortunately horrible people exist and we are now in an era where we tippy toe around feelings.

Remember the 80s? God dammit, you could say anything. Now nearly everyone is a little b*tch. I hate the double standards put out by society more than anything. I hate academia. I hate how universities brain-wash students with idealisms for the sake of lining their pockets; only to have a bunch of worthless bachelor degrees pop out several years later and cry to comrade Bernie when reality hits them. I hate how social decay has squandered the original ideas America was built on. Independence in frowned upon. Chivalry is worthy of hand-slaps. Ignorance is encouraged. Emotions and feelings trump logic and rational.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
They yell about Russians interfering with our country on social media...

What about all the Hollywood movies designed to break up the Soviet Bloc? That was Reagan and also bad.

Communism is the way forward.

Steve Zodiac
Yeah, Russia played with the dim witted Brits to achieve an end, just like it did with the dim witted yanks. Of course they are the ones who think this isn't a problem...

Funny stuff.

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
Russia is becoming such an easy scapegoat. How long until we blame Putin for climate change?

In soviet russia, climate changes you.

ArtificialGlory

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Yeah, Russia played with the dim witted Brits to achieve an end, just like it did with the dim witted yanks. Of course they are the ones who think this isn't a problem...

Funny stuff. I guess the "only idiots disagree with the mainstream media" line wasn't working anymore, so now it's "Russia hacked our elections!"

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I guess the "only idiots disagree with the mainstream media" line wasn't working anymore, so now it's "Russia hacked our elections!"

It's essentially going to be "if I disagree with your views and your views have won out over mine it's Russia's fault, because people couldn't possibly vote in a different manner than I do unless someone is manipulating them".

These people are jokes at this point.

We have people in THIS country who claim it's been proven Russia hacked the DNC. They have never actually handed over their servers to law enforcement lol. They gave it to a third party to check. And yet somehow ALL intelligence agencies are sure Russia hacked them. All 17 wink

We also are sort of told not to question intelligence agencies, which whenever someone says that tells me they have no clue about the history of these agencies.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
It's essentially going to be "if I disagree with your views and your views have won out over mine it's Russia's fault, because people couldn't possibly vote in a different manner than I do unless someone is manipulating them".

These people are jokes at this point.

We have people in THIS country who claim it's been proven Russia hacked the DNC. They have never actually handed over their servers to law enforcement lol. They gave it to a third party to check. And yet somehow ALL intelligence agencies are sure Russia hacked them. All 17 wink Wait. So now Russia was the reason Bernie lost?

crylaugh Make it stop!

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
Wait. So now Russia was the reason Bernie lost?

crylaugh Make it stop!

LOL oh damn...you just reminded me of a hilarious new story that just came out. Donna Brazille has said the DNC conspired to screw over Bernie. Lmao. They are devouring themselves.

Foxsteak
Just like the SJWs on YouTube.

There's a story that Bernie wrote Hillary's original medicaid plan when she was first lady and liberals reactions were
"See, Bernie wrote that bill, we should have picked Bernie, stupid DNC"

not
"Bernie wrote a failed bill,"
"Bernie worked with Hillary Clinton in the 90s proving he was an alias to Hillary"
"Hillary Clinton as president would mean a good position for Bernie"
"Hillary and Bernie agree on a lot of things"
"Bernie didn't have the balls or power to be known to the public in the 90s or at all until he appeared in a Michael Moore film"

At least, that was the impression I got.

It's like they hate Hillary, but don't know why. In 2008 and in 2016 they got literally nobody to say the same things as her and most liberals picked the other candidates. XD

Stigma
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Stigma
But seriously, I think this is unlikely given that....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t4Vr8qG5hwc/T1eOUzJ919I/AAAAAAAAAiI/zTNLvv7PMG0/s1600/Putin+election.jpg

Foxsteak
http://alexanderhiggins.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Russians.png
This was a meme during the debate.

In other news, http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/28/hillary-clintons-ties-to-russian-uranium-deal-largely-ignored-by-anti-trump-media-and-other-media-disasters.html

Oh wait, that's Faux news. Nevermind.

Bashar Teg
Edit: Please stop. erm

Foxsteak
"Russia poses the biggest threat to our national security" - Hillary Clinton during the second debate

Yeah, they hacked the DNC and made you their candidate... ermm

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^these guys

Mod edit.

^^The irony overload is hilarious.

Surtur
EDIT

Foxsteak
This is pornographic trolling. I've reported him, you should too Surtur.

Surtur

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
This is pornographic trolling. I've reported him, you should too Surtur.

It's like reporting something the Clintons did wrong to the authorities. Nothing will happen.

Foxsteak

Surtur
It is pathetic, but like I said: gayest form of untouchables.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Foxsteak
This is pornographic trolling. I've reported him, you should too Surtur.

#fee-fees

not my fault you drank all your money away.

Foxsteak
Bada removed the image.

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
Bada removed the image.

Indeed, so only 10,000 violations left before the ban hammer comes down.

Bashar Teg
baby gets his way, baby's still mad.

Foxsteak
You do realise me and Surtur are different people, right?

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
You do realise me and Surtur are different people, right?

It always fascinates me how people are "babies" or "playing the victim" whenever certain behaviors are pointed out here. And yet when they do the same...it's of course not baby-ish or playing the victim. Strange how that works.

Foxsteak
I like how there's like, at least 5 members on here who basically troll their positions yet they only pick on you and me.

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I like how there's like, at least 5 members on here who basically troll their positions yet they only pick on you and me.

I trigger them, you probably do too. Just me posting a meme in the OTF has gotten them pissed lol.

Stigma
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
baby gets his way, baby's still mad.
Speaking of babies, you really have some growing up to do.

You should think before posting pornographic images on an open forum where minors can browse through threads. /smh

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Stigma
Speaking of babies, you really have some growing up to do.

You should think before posting pornographic images on an open forum where minors can browse through threads. /smh

art is not pornography mad

Stigma
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
art is not pornography mad
And yet, it was removed by a mod. I assume the factor was that it was not art per se.

In any case, it was a protip.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Stigma
And yet, it was removed by a mod. I assume the factor was that it was not art per se.

In any case, it was a pro-tip.

i respect the mods' decision, but still disagree. but never mind that, you have fun posturing. thumb up

Badabing
Originally posted by Foxsteak
Bada removed the image. I saved it first. embarrasmentOriginally posted by Surtur
Indeed, so only 10,000 violations left before the ban hammer comes down. 10,427. Do you even math bro? ermOriginally posted by Bashar Teg
art is not pornography mad laughing out loud

Stigma
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i respect the mods' decision, but still disagree. but never mind that, you have fun posturing. thumb up
No posturing, just stating my opinion. You would do wise to take a moment and think about it. That is all. thumb up

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Badabing
I saved it first. embarrasment 10,427. Do you even math bro? erm laughing out loud You're a joke mod. Bring back Time

Bashar Teg
nobody can bring back time. time will have it's way with us all.

Robtard
Bash posted art that made some cry and I missed it? Damn.

Foxsteak
It was gay porn. You would've loved it.

Robtard
Agreed. Weird you had a problem with it though cos I remember another story...

dadudemon
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Edit: Please stop. erm

Why? Their memes are better than yours. Step up your game.

Bashar Teg
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Foxsteak
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why? Their memes are better than yours. Step up your game. He can only resort to gifs that describe himself.

We actually have good humour.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Foxsteak
He can only resort to gifs that describe himself.

We actually have good humour.

not my fault you ran out of beer money and have to suffer withdrawal. next time either quit drinking or at least pace yourself, instead of scapegoating me for your problems. thumb up

Impediment
How about we all get back on topic and put our penises away as to cease with the dick waving, hmm?

Any more off topic jabber and this thread is closed.

Foxsteak
Close it. Thread sucks.

Bashar Teg
as i commented with the catalonia situation:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
can't help but suspect putin's dick in all this

Foxsteak
Or maybe people are sick of the EU bullshit?

It's kinda dumb when the media keep thinking Russia is behind every democratic vote they don't like. Furthermore, if Putin can control our democracies so easily, why aren't we doing anything about it?

He rigged Bernie from winning too, right?

Bashar Teg
none of that supports/refutes/addresses the real issue of russia meddling with democracies. but i guess you have to reply to everything i post with something.

Foxsteak
I just think it's fake news.

Bashar Teg
so 160 million americans were not sent russia-funded propaganda on social media. those congressional hearings where social media executives spilled the beans are also just "fake news" as well, yes? basically everything that you don't like is fake news.

Foxsteak
Oh, so Russia sent propoganda on social media? Did he do that with Brexit too?

Because, I fail to see how this is a hack. I mean, you could say they hacked social media to influence an election (would need to see evidence on that) but that's not hacking an election, is it?

Bashar Teg
hacking/leaking servers of an undesirable party and flooding another country with propaganda to influence elections is in fact 'meddling'. your fee-fees do not factor into this.

Foxsteak
Well, if it's true, then you may be onto something.

Surtur
Originally posted by Stigma
Speaking of babies, you really have some growing up to do.

You should think before posting pornographic images on an open forum where minors can browse through threads. /smh

You missed the 30 page meltdown he had the other week lol. It was hilarious.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so 160 million americans were not sent russia-funded propaganda on social media. those congressional hearings where social media executives spilled the beans are also just "fake news" as well, yes? basically everything that you don't like is fake news.

300+ million Americans were sent and exposed to Hillary-funded propaganda on social media.

A better question for you is, why do you care so much about this? Is it because you have not-a-Democrat as your president? You did not seem to care too much about the billion spent by Obama.

Are you trying to make the case that the average American cannot be trusted to vote because they might get influenced by a person or people whose interests do not necessarily reflect yours? Because that's the only "solution" to your complaint that can actually address the problem. Complaining that someone bought ad space for an election is rather pathetic.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
300+ million Americans were sent and exposed to Hillary-funded propaganda on social media.

A better question for you is, why do you care so much about this? Is it because you have not-a-Democrat as your president? You did not seem to care too much about the billion spent by Obama.

Are you trying to make the case that the average American cannot be trusted to vote because they might get influenced by a person or people whose interests do not necessarily reflect yours? Because that's the only "solution" to your complaint that can actually address the problem. Complaining that someone bought ad space for an election is rather pathetic.

Bingo. Nearly every major media outlet shilled for her. Social media outlets kinda did too. Celebrities did too. There was far more negative coverage on Trump than her.

She still lost.

Bashar Teg
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Foxsteak
Originally posted by dadudemon
300+ million Americans were sent and exposed to Hillary-funded propaganda on social media.

A better question for you is, why do you care so much about this? Is it because you have not-a-Democrat as your president? You did not seem to care too much about the billion spent by Obama.

Are you trying to make the case that the average American cannot be trusted to vote because they might get influenced by a person or people whose interests do not necessarily reflect yours? Because that's the only "solution" to your complaint that can actually address the problem. Complaining that someone bought ad space for an election is rather pathetic. Tbf, Russia has no business in our elections.

Not that there's any evidence for it at all, but hey, Paul needs something to clutch onto after BEING WRONG ALL THE TIME!

dadudemon
Originally posted by Surtur
Bingo. Nearly every major media outlet shilled for her. Social media outlets kinda did too. Celebrities did too. There was far more negative coverage on Trump than her.

She still lost.


thumb up


They only way the ridiculously hypocritical and butthurt Democrats would have accepted anything about the Trump vs. Hillary election is if Hillary won. If Hillary won, then they'd be saying, "What, it's not okay for people to try and use money to represent their political interests? You're hypocrites!"

dadudemon
Originally posted by Foxsteak
Tbf, Russia has no business in our elections.

That's where you're wrong. Your use of the word "business" is exactly why anyone from Russia would be interested in our US elections.

Similar to China, Germany, France, Japan, etc. Business is a big deal and getting political outcomes that favor your business is just good business. They math-heads run the numbers and determine RoI for these endeavors and really push and lobby for outcomes that realize that RoI strategy.

Originally posted by Foxsteak
Not that there's any evidence for it at all, but hey, Paul needs something to clutch onto after BEING WRONG ALL THE TIME!

Why are you using his real name? He may not like that. At least have a modicum of decorum.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by dadudemon
That's where you're wrong. Your use of the word "business" is exactly why anyone from Russia would be interested in our US elections.


Similar to China, Germany, France, Japan, etc. Business is a big deal and getting political outcomes that favor your business is just good business. They math-heads run the numbers and determine RoI for these endeavors and really push and lobby for outcomes that realize that RoI strategy.


Well, do British media influence German elections? I mean, I remember Ed Miliband telling English people to phone up Scots and beg them to vote no on the Scottish referendum, but we're one country, right?

Did Spain influence Catalan elections? Cos, they did.

This shit is confusing.

Oh sorry. Don't wanna get into another facebook scare again.

Bashar Teg
.Originally posted by Impediment
How about we all get back on topic and put our penises away as to cease with the dick waving, hmm?

Any more off topic jabber and this thread is closed.

i tried *shrug*

Foxsteak
All my posts have relevancy to the topic.

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
All my posts have relevancy to the topic.

So remember, it's relevant to bring up Las Vegas in the NYC terrorist attack thread. It's not relevant to bring up russian interference in the US elections in a topic about russians influencing other elections.

Because something something reasons.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Surtur
You missed the 30 page meltdown he had the other week lol. It was hilarious.

"if you cant defend your point, derail the topic"

*squirt*

Foxsteak
Lmao! He edited his post!

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"if you cant defend your point, derail the topic"

*squirt*

^^^Literally deflected in a topic I posted just today. Same guy.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
.

Why did you delete your post where you said:


"i'd like to point out that I tried to steer the conversation back on topic" while quoting Imp's post that said he would close the thread if people didn't put their dick's away? Did it come off as too nob-polishy or something? But...he likes his nob polished so why edit?

Robtard
Hi guys!

Foxsteak
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why did you delete your post where you said:


"i'd like to point out that I tried to steer the conversation back on topic" while quoting Imp's post that said he would close the thread if people didn't put their dick's away? Did it come off as too nob-polishy or something? But...he likes his nob polished so why edit? Because Surtur is a hypocrite.

Surtur
Indeed, got me.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
Hi guys!

Hi, Robtard. I don't believe that Russia caused or tried to prevent the Brexit. I do not see enough evidence. Nor should it matter if people in Russia or from Russia tried to do that.

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon
Hi, Robtard. I don't believe that Russia caused or tried to prevent the Brexit. I do not see enough evidence. Nor should it matter if people in Russia or from Russia tried to do that.

I've not followed the specifics of this thread, I've just looking at the shittery, but Putin/Russia being a world player and attempting to interfere in other major world player's politics does seem plausible.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
Hi, Robtard. I don't believe that Russia caused or tried to prevent the Brexit. I do not see enough evidence. Nor should it matter if people in Russia or from Russia tried to do that.

And this is why it disturbs me. It certainly wouldn't be shocking if evidence came that Russia tried to influence Brexit. But we do need to guard against people blaming Russia for any election result they happen to be triggered over.

Robtard
Are we pretending again that Russia (through mostly propaganda) doing its shenanigans in our 2016 election is "fakenews"?

Foxsteak
I'm having trouble keeping up.

#pizzagate was Russia?

snowdragon
Originally posted by Robtard
Are we pretending again that Russia (through mostly propaganda) doing its shenanigans in our 2016 election is "fakenews"?

They did and so did multinational corporations and other sources. The headline should say Russia used FB paid advertisements to influence public opinion while FB made millions selling the ads.....

Robtard
So it's the FBI now...

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Robtard
So it's the FBI now...
DERP.

FBI crylaugh

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Are we pretending again that Russia (through mostly propaganda) doing its shenanigans in our 2016 election is "fakenews"?

Nobody said that. Also there is a difference between Russia attempting to infliuence the election via propaganda and blaming Russia for the result of the election.

Bashar Teg
#strawman. keep trying to pretend-erase the fact that russia meddled in out elections and misrepresenting the point, squirt.

Foxsteak
The meddling being, paying for Facebook ads?

snowdragon
Originally posted by Robtard
So it's the FBI now...

FB= Facebook wink

Bashar Teg
that was one method, yes. i can see that you're trying to assert that it's somehow okay because rubles were exchanged, but it's not. thus the congressional hearings baby]

Foxsteak
There were more methods?! oh What were the other methods?

Can you name one FB(I) ad that was Russian influenced? Because I think the congressional hearings are more to do with whether or not any were Russian influenced......I may be wrong though.

snowdragon
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
that was one method, yes. i can see that you're trying to assert that it's somehow okay because rubles were exchanged, but it's not. thus the congressional hearings baby]

It's not fake news, it is however mislabeled.

I also want to add that I don't believe that FB didn't know or track the propoganda ads by Russia. Anyone that has advertised with them KNOWS that they track everything associated with accounts and clicking as well as ad creation and placement.

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
#strawman. keep trying to pretend-erase the fact that russia meddled in out elections and misrepresenting the point, squirt.

But I never said they didn't try to influence our election lol.

Robtard
Originally posted by snowdragon
FB= Facebook wink
My bad, read that wrong, been starring at a screen too much today.

Robtard
Originally posted by Foxsteak
There were more methods?! oh What were the other methods?

Can you name one FB(I) ad that was Russian influenced? Because I think the congressional hearings are more to do with whether or not any were Russian influenced......I may be wrong though.


Yeah, I read that wrong. You're more vitriolic today than usual, are you sober and it's not intentional?

Bashar Teg
more "fake news" from "SJW MSM" newscorp:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecutors-consider-bringing-charges-in-dnc-hacking-case-1509618203



#Meddling

Foxsteak
I think the thinking goes like this, I may be wrong, but I'll play along:

1. Russia paid for ads to help Trump and released emails that hurt Hillary's campaign
2. Russia has ties to Trump (not Uranium deals, that's Hillary--I mean, that's not important)
3. Must find evidence that Trump used Russian friends to help him win the election
4. This is unconstitutional because reasons
5. Impeach!
6. No more Trump, we were right, he was a loser after all!

Surtur
Okay Bash I repeat: what is being said is that they are not to blame for the result of the election. Or rather, that meddling isn't the same as being to blame for the result.

Stigma
Ok. So to seriously approach the topic.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Russia interfered in Brexit. (But a clear proof would be great). So far we have speculation.

If this is the case, however, in my opinion the main reason would be that Russia is still (albeit somewhat diminished) global superpower and it always tries to posit itself as the key player in European (and World) politics.

They simply will play every card they can if they can get something out of that or any other critical socio-political occurance.

However, the same can easily be applied to other major global players like the US or China.

I would be wary of weaving a narrative of *bad Russians cheat the unsuspected masses of other countries* given that in this game there are essentially no good guys. They have the means to do it, the same with the US, the same with China.

BTW from the standpoint of the Russians, it is Americans who meddle in everything. From the standpont of the Chinease, it is Russians and Americans that always try to run everything and so on and so forth.

I realize this forum is very Anglo-centric, but be mindful of that too.

Bashar Teg
you are retorting an argument that nobody is asserting in order to avoid the point of russian meddling.
that's called "strawman", my little squirt.

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you are retorting an argument that nobody is asserting in order to avoid the point of russian meddling.
that's called "strawman", my little squirt.

I made a comment, Rob said are we pretending Russia didn't do that. I said no I am not, I explained what I meant. Then you came and also acted like I was pretending it didn't happen.

Bashar Teg
you're peddling strawman drivel. nothing more.

Robtard
Originally posted by Stigma
Ok. So to seriously approach the topic.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit of Russia interfered in Brexit. (But a clear proof would be great). So far we have sepculation.

If this is the case, however, in my opinion the main reason would be that Russia is still (albeit somewhat diminished) global superpower and it always tries to posit itself as the key player in European (and World) politics.

They simply will play every card they can if they can get something out of that or any other critical socio-political occurance.

However, the same can easily be applied to other major global players like the US or China. I would be wary of weaving a narrative of *bad Russians cheat the unsuspected masses of other countries* given that in this game there are essentially no good guys. They have the means to do it, the same with the US, the smae with China.

BTW from the standpoint of the Russians, it is Americans who meddle in everything. From the standpont of the Chinease, it is Russians and Americans that always try to run everything and so on and so forth.

I realize this forum is very Anglo-centric, but be mindful of that too.

America's right when it does it though stick out tongue

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
I made a comment, Rob said are we pretending Russia didn't do that. I said no I am not, I explained what I meant. Then you came and also acted like I was pretending it didn't happen. I think he meant me, there. Not sure.

But yeah, so Russia influenced the outcome of the election. Bash, your post suggests that Russia did this to undermine our democracy? By convincing us to vote a certain way? Because Trump and Farage did more of an influence than Russia ever did.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
America's right when it does it though stick out tongue

Actually, no country is right when they do it.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Surtur
Actually, no country is right when they do it. I like it when England does it and respect other countries who do it.

Stigma
Originally posted by Robtard
America's right when it does it though stick out tongue lol yeah

I am sure this is how it is perceived. Can't blame you for that.

Robtard
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I think he meant me, there. Not sure.

But yeah, so Russia influenced the outcome of the election. Bash, your post suggests that Russia did this to undermine our democracy? By convincing us to vote a certain way? Because Trump and Farage did more of an influence than Russia ever did.

No, I was referring to Surtur and other Trumper Americans, frankly, the political opinions of America from a substance abusing child lecher don't really concern me, you can't vote, your voice affects nothing here.

Flyattractor
Hmmm....

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I think he meant me, there. Not sure.

But yeah, so Russia influenced the outcome of the election. Bash, your post suggests that Russia did this to undermine our democracy? By convincing us to vote a certain way? Because Trump and Farage did more of an influence than Russia ever did.

It's possible, but he said it directly after I made this post:

Originally posted by Surtur
And this is why it disturbs me. It certainly wouldn't be shocking if evidence came that Russia tried to influence Brexit. But we do need to guard against people blaming Russia for any election result they happen to be triggered over.

Also remember, on that page you were mostly asking questions to DDM about media influence. So it would be weird if Rob thought you were trying to suggest Russia didn't try to influence the election.

Anyways, yeah they say they tried to undermine our democracy. Which would mean we've tried to undermine the democracy of other nations multiple times.

I'm not going to defend Russia, I will say people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Robtard
No, I was referring to Surtur and other Trumper Americans, frankly, the political opinions of America from a substance abusing child lecher don't really concern me, you can't vote, your voice affects nothing here.

So according to this statement, can we take it that Robbie is AGAINST MARIJUANA USE? I seem to recall that His Side of the Political Spectrum fought very Hard for the ride to "Abuse" this Substance? Why don't you Toe the Political Line with the rest of your party Robbie?

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
No, I was referring to Surtur and other Trumper Americans, frankly, the political opinions of America from a substance abusing child lecher don't really concern me, you can't vote, your voice affects nothing here.

Just wow lol, and you think I'm the angry one.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Just wow lol, and you think I'm the angry one.

Clever?

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Clever?

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Flyattractor
Maybe Robbie should take a "Self Imposed Time Out" like Basy occasionally does.

Foxsteak
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Flyattractor
....yeah ok.

snowdragon
Ha ma main man AliG show some respek, booyeahkasha ( I have the box set so hilarious.)

Russia only benefits from creating instability they certainly have motive and with social media easy entry into mass media markets unchecked.

I believe Germany requires FB to monitor their ads in Germany now because of what has occured in the US and UK.

Flyattractor
I find it hard to respect a "man" that wears legless whitie tighties on his head.

Foxsteak
Originally posted by snowdragon
Ha ma main man AliG show some respek, booyeahkasha ( I have the box set so hilarious.)

Russia only benefits from creating instability they certainly have motive and with social media easy entry into mass media markets unchecked.

I believe Germany requires FB to monitor their ads in Germany now because of what has occured in the US and UK. I was just making an FB aye joke.

Robtard
Dude, you should really listen to my advice here. Have I ever steered you wrong in situations like this?

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, you should really listen to my advice here. Have I ever steered you wrong in situations like this?

dude, you should stop talking to phantoms. makes you look like a loonybird when he gets deleted.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, you should really listen to my advice here. Have I ever steered you wrong in situations like this?

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Stigma
On topic:

Some interesting insights here. Not saying I agree or disagree with him, though.

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Foxsteak
yes my brain was hacked by putin. lets bring more polish people in /s

Steve Zodiac
Russia alone is not responsible for the stupidity of Brexit. A racist and very thick white underclass, the tabloid press, people like Johnson and Farage with personal agendas all helped. To blame Putin alone for this perfect storm of morons would be incredibly and almost Brexit level stupidity.

Foxsteak
I live in a northern town of Britain. Lower class idiots are full on anti-Brexit. They eat up the BBC like it's gospel. The left wing are the idiots fwiw

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I live in a northern town of Britain. Lower class idiots are full on anti-Brexit. They eat up the BBC like it's gospel. The left wing are the idiots fwiw

And here you see the hilarity in responses like you just saw from Steve: the people who voted for brexit were just dumb racists. They had no valid reason to want a brexit.

The anti-brexit crowd was just nothing but a well informed, cultured, and civilized group that only took facts into account and not feelings.

This is what imbeciles truly believe. They truly feel you literally could only disagree with them because of stupidity or racism. It can't even be because maybe they are wrong or maybe there are valid reasons to want to leave the EU.

And they want another vote lol. Do they feel by calling all the brexiters morons and racists would magically get them to vote against it if they had another vote?

Steve Zodiac
Originally posted by Foxsteak
I live in a northern town of Britain. Lower class idiots are full on anti-Brexit. They eat up the BBC like it's gospel. The left wing are the idiots fwiw The northern working class has always been brighter than the one in the home counties, but you're right the ones in semi-skilled and skilled manual jobs up and down the UK will always be the most racist and stupid when it comes to being Turkey's voting for Christmas. Your Dad a plumber?

Foxsteak
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
The northern working class has always been brighter than the one in the home counties, but you're right the ones in semi-skilled and skilled manual jobs up and down the UK will always be the most racist and stupid when it comes to being Turkey's voting for Christmas. Your Dad a plumber? He's half Polish, if that counts?

Originally posted by Surtur
And here you see the hilarity in responses like you just saw from Steve: the people who voted for brexit were just dumb racists. They had no valid reason to want a brexit.

The anti-brexit crowd was just nothing but a well informed, cultured, and civilized group that only took facts into account and not feelings.

This is what imbeciles truly believe. They truly feel you literally could only disagree with them because of stupidity or racism. It can't even be because maybe they are wrong or maybe there are valid reasons to want to leave the EU.

And they want another vote lol. Do they feel by calling all the brexiters morons and racists would magically get them to vote against it if they had another vote? The whole "people who voted leave had to google what the EU was, LOL they dumbies" well...... I don't wanna be a member of something I don't understand. It's just common sense.

COOMON SENSE!

Surtur
Indeed, and hell I'm sure some people who voted Brexit were ignorant to the issues. Just like some who voted not to Brexit were ignorant.

But hell, it doesn't surprise me some in the UK did not want people from other countries making decisions for them lol.

I wouldn't want some imbeciles from Germany deciding stuff about US borders, f*ck that.

Foxsteak
Russia used FBI memes to make dumb whiteys to vote Brexit so they hacks and Trump will no longer be president so my penis gets bigger /Bashartardock

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
Russia used FBI memes to make dumb whiteys to vote Brexit so they hacks and Trump will no longer be president so my penis gets bigger /Bashartardock

Those poor Russians don't even understand space and time. Like 40% of their ads only came out after the election.

Silly Russians.

Next week they'll be putting out ads aimed at costing Obama the election.

Foxsteak
It's not that you're a moron, it's because Russia.

Surtur
Originally posted by Foxsteak
It's not that you're a moron, it's because Russia.

My question is why they felt they had the right to kill off all the dinosaurs.

That's f*cking arrogant. What is that in my backyard? I'll tell you what it isn't: a nice pet dinosaur.

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