Where does everyone hold Vitiate?

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darthbane77
So, I know most of KMC is aligned with Sidious' superiority to Vitiate. While I myself may not agree with that stance, I admit there are easy arguments to make for it.

But my question here is where does everyone hold Vitiate and Valkorion comparative to whatever varying versions of Sidious?

I ask because I find it difficult to get a beat on actual character placements here, I can rarely tell when people are trolling or being serious, and this is something I've been curious about recently.

UCanShootMyNova
Vitiate is about TPM Sidious level for me. Valkorion is RotS Sidious level.

Trocity
SWTOR Vitiate shouldn't be far off from ROTS Palpatine. Valkorion should also be approaching DE Palpatine, though each are inferior to the respective versions of Sidious imo.

darthbane77
Originally posted by Trocity
SWTOR Vitiate shouldn't be far off from ROTS Palpatine. Valkorion should also be approaching DE Palpatine, though each are inferior to the respective versions of Sidious imo. That's pretty fair tbh

godemperortrump
Vitiate is above all versions of Palps. Valkorion is a tier above with The Ones, Abeloth etc.

Azronger
Valkorion is at least a tier below Tenebrous, Plagueis and TPM Sheev

AncientPower
Valk's death threatened to knock out every Force sensitive who lived at the time of Satele Shan tier or lower. Try harder.

Ursumeles
Eh, dunno about Vity, but Valkorion is around DE Sidious level. Slightly lower, probably.

Total Warrior
SWTor Vitiate is more or less around RotS Sid level, but still weaker. Valkorion is near Rotj Sid

DarthDuelist9
Vitiate is around TPM Sidious level and Valkorion is around RotS Sidious.

Haschwalth
Vitiate is ROTS, Valkorian is around ROTJ, below DE.

Nearly knocking out satele class characters, and literally nearly every force sensitive, with just his death.
And his ability to create a Galaxy wiping ritual, makes tenebrous/Plagueis look like infants.

AncientPower
Most amusing.

The Emperor completely overpowered Revan in a raw Force exchange, who was much more powerful than the Revan who boarded the Star Forge. Who destroyed an entire legion of the most elite Sith Lords and Sith Commandos in the Empire all before facing and defeating a massively amped Bastila prior to facing hundreds of Star Forge droids. Then he fought and overpowered Darth Malak.

Star Forge amped Malak has mastered this power source, which is immeasurably more powerful than any other Rakata technology as it is the pinnacle. This makes the power of the star maps insignificant in comparison, meaning Malak with the Star Forge amp would've been vastly more powerful than Pall and his Shadow Hands such as Karness Muur or Sorzus Syn.

Please tell me how Vitiate > Reborn Revan > Redeemed Revan > Hindered and exhausted Revan > SF Malak >>> Karness Muur factors in on this equation.

Haschwalth
Fixed.

AncientPower
I get your point but I'm referring to the exact feat I mentioned above.

Ursumeles
Despite Drew's miserable writing, it seems pretty clear that NoVitiate > Revan tbh.

AncientPower
He overpowers his Tutaminis almost instantly and Revan is paralysed by the attack. Vitiate would've killed him then and there if not for T3's intervention. SWTOR Vitiate grows ever more powerful across three centuries after this by draining his personal servants and Revan himself. He'd logically be so much more powerful by then that Revan Reborn would be close to one-shot range.

It's quite incredible how many magnitudes of power he's above Muur range by SWTOR.

Haschwalth
I CBF arguing/explaining it for the 50th time.
@Darthant66, can you make a copypasta of the argument why Revan is not that far off Vitiate.

Ursumeles
We all read the thread, Hasch.

AncientPower
Indeed, I wasn't convinced.

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