Hela vs. Wonder Woman

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carthage
Diana as of BVS/Justice League (When her feats become available)

Diana has her lasso, gauntlets, sword, and shield

Who wins

FrothByte
Hela is probably one of the worst opponents for WW considering that she isn't exactly cut or stab proof. Diana puts up a fight but won't be able to get around Hela's healing factor. WW dies.

Slowpoke
I think magic fight really depends on the setting, how much can the lasso work on Hela and could Wonder Woman's lightning blast kill off Hela. It annihilated Ares.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
I think magic fight really depends on the setting, how much can the lasso work on Hela and could Wonder Woman's lightning blast kill off Hela. It annihilated Ares.

I don't recall WW doing a lightning blast of her own. IIRC she absorbed Ares' lightning and launched it back.

Besides, if Thor's lightning couldn't kill Hela I doubt WW's can.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
I think magic fight really depends on the setting, how much can the lasso work on Hela and could Wonder Woman's lightning blast kill off Hela. It annihilated Ares.


Wonder Woman did not generate the lightning on her own, she absorbed and then redirected Ares lightning attack.

Besides, Hela withstood Thor's lightning which has far better feats.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't recall WW doing a lightning blast of her own. IIRC she absorbed Ares' lightning and launched it back.

Besides, if Thor's lightning couldn't kill Hela I doubt WW's can.

Thor's lightning couldn't even finish the Hulk, Wonder Woman annihilated the god of war in seconds.

Seriously, what strong attack did Hela suffer? Lightning? Blades? These were quite weak compare to the DCEU strong individuals. They are quicker and have advantage on strength.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wonder Woman did not generate the lightning on her own, she absorbed and then redirected Ares lightning attack.

Besides, Hela withstood Thor's lightning which has far better feats.
Thor's lightning couldn't even do real harm to the Hulk, and you are comparing it with the lightning of Wonder Woman?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Thor's lightning couldn't even finish the Hulk, Wonder Woman annihilated the god of war in seconds.

Seriously, what strong attack did Hela suffer? Lightning? Blades? These were quite weak compare to the DCEU strong individuals. They are quicker and have advantage on strength.

When did Thor ever hit Hulk with lightning?

The fight between Diana and Ares lasted about 10 minutes. You're obviously exaggerating.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
When did Thor ever hit Hulk with lightning?

The Arena, even in the awakening state, the device was still able to pull him down.

Originally posted by FrothByte
When did Thor ever hit Hulk with lightning?

The fight between Diana and Ares lasted about 10 minutes. You're obviously exaggerating.
The whole fight, yes, and the lightning killed Ares in seconds.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
The Arena, even in the awakening state, the device was still able to pull him down.

I don't believe Thor ever called lightning down on Hulk. He punched Hulk with a lightning charged punch but he didn't hit him with lightning.

FrothByte
It doesn't matter if Ares got killed with lightning because that was his lightning flung back at him. WW cannot generate lightning on her own so it's a moot point in this fight.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
It doesn't matter if Ares got killed with lightning because that was his lightning flung back at him. WW cannot generate lightning on her own so it's a moot point in this fight.
That is Thor's lightning power, the power came from him, not calling on it. Odin made it quite clear. It couldn't even harm Hulk much.

Wonder Woman is quicker and stronger than Hela, also could reflect magic attacks back. What could Hela do to her? Melee fight? She's gonna be beaten quite badly.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
That is Thor's lightning power, the power came from him, not calling on it. Odin made it quite clear. It couldn't even harm Hulk much.

Wonder Woman is quicker and stronger than Hela, also could reflect magic attacks back. What could Hela do to her? Melee fight? She's gonna be beaten quite badly.

You're stepping around the issue. Thor never hit Hulk with a bolt of lightning. Period. It really doesn't matter because WW has no lightning anyway.

No, there's actually no proof that she's stronger than Hela. Quicker sure but stronger is debatable. Plus Hela has better fight skill, at least feats wise.

WW has nothing to kill Hela with. She has melee weapons and Hela heals from melee weapon injuries. On the other hand, Diana has been cut and has bled.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Thor's lightning couldn't even finish the Hulk, Wonder Woman annihilated the god of war in seconds.

Seriously, what strong attack did Hela suffer? Lightning? Blades? These were quite weak compare to the DCEU strong individuals. They are quicker and have advantage on strength.


Thor's lightning couldn't even do real harm to the Hulk, and you are comparing it with the lightning of Wonder Woman?

Wonder Woman doesn't have lightning. however, Thor's lightning has far better feats than the lightning attack that Wonder Woman absorbed and then redirected.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, there's actually no proof that she's stronger than Hela. Quicker sure. Plus Hela has better fight skill, at least feats wise.

WW has nothing to kill Hela with. She has melee weapons and Hela heals from melee weapon injuries. On the other hand, Diana has been cut and has bled.
Oh really? Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday one on one for quite a while, catch up the speed with Superman and Doomsday.

What strength/speed factor did Hela prove? She is not even much faster than the asian guy of the warrior three and had to fight hand to hand instead of speed blitz him. She doesn't kill with strength, but weapon as well.

Wonder Woman has the lasso to choke her easily like Superman had done to Zod or bind her and send her to the Sun. Actually there is no proof that Hela could regenerate without limit. With the speed and strength disadvantage, she couldn't even touch Wonder Woman, and Wonder Woman got the shield/bracelet to defend against her dagger throw.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wonder Woman doesn't have lightning. however, Thor's lightning has far better feats than the lightning attack that Wonder Woman absorbed and then redirected.

Thor's lightning: Couldn't do real harm to Hulk.
Wonder Woman's lightning: Killed Ares within seconds.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Oh really? Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday one on one for quite a while, catch up the speed with Superman and Doomsday.

What strength/speed factor did Hela prove? She is not even much faster than the asian guy of the warrior three and had to fight hand to hand instead of speed blitz him. She doesn't kill with strength, but weapon as well.

Wonder Woman has the lasso to choke her easily like Superman had done to Zod or bind her and send her to the Sun. Actually there is no proof that Hela could regenerate without limit. With the speed and strength disadvantage, she couldn't even touch Wonder Woman, and Wonder Woman got the shield/bracelet to defend against her dagger throw.



Thor's lightning: Couldn't do real harm to Hulk.
Wonder Woman's lightning: Killed Ares within seconds.

Given that Thor's lightning has far better feats, all that proves is that the Hulk would be able to laugh off Ares redirected lightning.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Given that Thor's lightning has far better feats, all that proves is that the Hulk would be able to laugh off Ares redirected lightning.

What better feats? What did his lightning do? After blasting away the Hulk, Hulk could still come back and fight, even smash him down after the device was triggered.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Oh really? Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday one on one for quite a while, catch up the speed with Superman and Doomsday.

What strength/speed factor did Hela prove? She is not even much faster than the asian guy of the warrior three and had to fight hand to hand instead of speed blitz him. She doesn't kill with strength, but weapon as well.

Wonder Woman has the lasso to choke her easily like Superman had done to Zod or bind her and send her to the Sun. Actually there is no proof that Hela could regenerate without limit. With the speed and strength disadvantage, she couldn't even touch Wonder Woman, and Wonder Woman got the shield/bracelet to defend against her dagger throw.



Thor's lightning: Couldn't do real harm to Hulk.
Wonder Woman's lightning: Killed Ares within seconds.

WW never matched Doomsday strength for strength. She dodged around him and avoided getting hit. The one time she got hit she was sent flying away. You can't attribute her Doomsday's strength.

Hela, on the other hand, was able to wrestle around with Thor meaning she should be of somewhat similar strength. Thor, who was strong enough to easily crumple the exterior armor of spaceships and catch a blow from Hulk. WW's best strength feat is flipping the tank. I won't go as far to say that Thor and Hela are stronger than her, but you also can't say she's stronger than Thor.

On her speed, I have no issues. She is faster. But her fighting skill is questionable, since even a juiced up Luddendorf was able to give her problems. Other than that, she normally beats up fodder. Hela took on Thor and Valkyrie together. Heck, took on a whole host of Valkyries.


In the end, WW has no way to kill Hela. C'mon, tell me how she wins? It's not that easy to get a lasso on someone who can stab you. Plus there's no proof that will actually kill Hela.

Whereas a sword or two driven through WW will end her.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
What better feats? What did his lightning do? After blasting away the Hulk, Hulk could still come back and fight, even smash him down after the device was triggered.

Check out Thor 1, Avengers and AOU.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
WW never matched Doomsday strength for strength. She dodged around him and avoided getting hit. The one time she got hit she was sent flying away. You can't attribute her Doomsday's strength.

Hela, on the other hand, was able to wrestle around with Thor meaning she should be of somewhat similar strength. Thor, who was strong enough to easily crumple the exterior armor of spaceships and catch a blow from Hulk. WW's best strength feat is flipping the tank. I won't go as far to say that Thor and Hela are stronger than her, but you also can't say she's stronger than Thor.

On her speed, I have no issues. She is faster. But her fighting skill is questionable, since even a juiced up Luddendorf was able to give her problems. Other than that, she normally beats up fodder. Hela took on Thor and Valkyrie together. Heck, took on a whole host of Valkyries.


In the end, WW has no way to kill Hela. C'mon, tell me how she wins?

Whereas a sword or two driven through WW will end her.

She could use her shield punch to make Doomsday lose balance.
She uses the sword to cut off the car it threw without moving back.

These are all proofs of her strength and speed close to Superman level. Otherwise she could not be able to harm Doomsday at all, just like Thor was a punchbag before Kurse in The Dark World.

Hela, on the other hand, was not much stronger than Thor. Superman>>>>>>Thor.

Wonder Woman was trained to be the godslayer, Hela, on the other hand, was a herald of Odin.

Like I've said, Wonder Woman could easily choke her with the lasso or throw her in the sun. Or just punch her to death, even Buu has a limit of his regeneration ability. With both the strength and speed advantage+the weapon to defend against Hela's main attack, what could Hela do other than got punched over and over and over again till she could not sustain the injury anymore?? Again Hela's dagger couldn't hit Wonder Woman since she's faster and stronger, Wonder Woman has the shield+bracelet to defend it as well.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Check out Thor 1, Avengers and AOU.
What better feat than obliterate the god of war in seconds?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
She could use her shield punch to make Doomsday lose balance.
She uses the sword to cut off the car it threw without moving back.

These are all proofs of her strength and speed close to Superman level. Otherwise she could not be able to harm Doomsday at all, just like Thor was a punchbag before Kurse in The Dark World.

Hela, on the other hand, was not much stronger than Thor. Superman>>>>>>Thor.

Wonder Woman was trained to be the godslayer, Hela, on the other hand, was a herald of Odin.

Like I've said, Wonder Woman could easily choke her with the lasso or throw her in the sun. Or just punch her to death, even Buu has a limit of his regeneration ability. With both the strength and speed advantage+the weapon to defend against Hela's main attack, what could Hela do other than got punched over and over and over again till she could not sustain the injury anymore??


What better feat than obliterate the god of war in seconds?

You're throwing a whole bunch of claims in the air without providing any proof whatsoever.

You have no proof that WW is just as strong as Superman.
You have no proof that choking will kill Hela when a spear through her torso did not even cause her pain.
WW never obliterated Ares with her own power (something you keep trying to avoid)
Doomsday was able to land a hit on WW. Batman was able to avoid getting hit by DD. WW is not as untouchable as you think.
Pounding on Hela is a great way for Diana to get stabbed.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
She could use her shield punch to make Doomsday lose balance.
She uses the sword to cut off the car it threw without moving back.

These are all proofs of her strength and speed close to Superman level. Otherwise she could not be able to harm Doomsday at all, just like Thor was a punchbag before Kurse in The Dark World.

Hela, on the other hand, was not much stronger than Thor. Superman>>>>>>Thor.

Wonder Woman was trained to be the godslayer, Hela, on the other hand, was a herald of Odin.

Like I've said, Wonder Woman could easily choke her with the lasso or throw her in the sun. Or just punch her to death, even Buu has a limit of his regeneration ability. With both the strength and speed advantage+the weapon to defend against Hela's main attack, what could Hela do other than got punched over and over and over again till she could not sustain the injury anymore?? Again Hela's dagger couldn't hit Wonder Woman since she's faster and stronger, Wonder Woman has the shield+bracelet to defend it as well.


What better feat than obliterate the god of war in seconds?

Why is killing Ares so impressive to you, it's not like he had any great durability feats.

BruceSkywalker
as much as i like Diana, she loses here

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
You're throwing a whole bunch of claims in the air without providing any proof whatsoever.

You have no proof that WW is just as strong as Superman.
You have no proof that choking will kill Hela when a spear through her torso did not even cause her pain.
WW never obliterated Ares with her own power (something you keep trying to avoid)
Doomsday was able to land a hit on WW. Batman was able to avoid getting hit by DD. WW is not as untouchable as you think.
Pounding on Hela is a great way for Diana to get stabbed.
Wonder Woman could punch Doomsday and cause it to avoid it,even hold it on her own for a little.

Hela never showed she could recover with this kind of damage, if you want to say she could you need to give proof. Her regenerate ability was formidable, but nothing crazy like Buu. Even Buu couldn't hold stronger+faster foe for long.

Yes, Doomsday, something as fast as Superman, even its attack missed Wonder Woman quite a few times. Hela and Thor is nowhere close to Doomsday's strength and speed level. They are on different league.

Yes, she reflected the power back and killed him within seconds. Which means she could do it to Hela as well if she wants to use magic.

She has speed and strength advantage plus the shield to avoid getting hit when punching Hela, she has the lasso to shackle Hela's action, tell me what does Hela have against her?

Nevan
WTF is this made up shit about WW throwing someone to the Sun.

How are people ignoring that bullshit?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Wonder Woman could punch Doomsday and cause it to avoid it,even hold it on her own for a little.

Hela never showed she could recover with this kind of damage, if you want to say she could you need to give proof. Her regenerate ability was formidable, but nothing crazy like Buu. Even Buu couldn't hold stronger+faster foe for long.

Yes, Doomsday, something as fast as Superman, even its attack missed Wonder Woman quite a few times. Hela and Thor is nowhere close to Doomsday's strength and speed level. They are on different league.

Yes, she reflected the power back and killed him within seconds. Which means she could do it to Hela as well if she wants to use magic.

She has speed and strength advantage plus the shield to avoid getting hit when punching Hela, she has the lasso to shackle Hela's action, tell me what does Hela have against her?

You're all over the place dude. Trying to understand your argument is making my head hurt. What do you mean "Wonder Woman could punch Doomsday and cause it to avoid it,even hold it on her own for a little."?

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
You're all over the place dude. Trying to understand your argument is making my head hurt. What do you mean "Wonder Woman could punch Doomsday and cause it to avoid it,even hold it on her own for a little."?

Wonder Woman's strength is enough to make Doomsday feel pain and try to avoid it. She could also take on the monster on her own for a little while.

Take a look at Thor VS Kurse, Thor's punch makes no effect to Kurse at all, that's what happens when your strength doesn't come close.

Khazra Reborn
Hela stomps.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Slowpoke
She could use her shield punch to make Doomsday lose balance.
She uses the sword to cut off the car it threw without moving back.

These are all proofs of her strength and speed close to Superman level. Otherwise she could not be able to harm Doomsday at all, just like Thor was a punchbag before Kurse in The Dark World.

Hela, on the other hand, was not much stronger than Thor. Superman>>>>>>Thor.

Wonder Woman was trained to be the godslayer, Hela, on the other hand, was a herald of Odin.

Like I've said, Wonder Woman could easily choke her with the lasso or throw her in the sun. Or just punch her to death, even Buu has a limit of his regeneration ability. With both the strength and speed advantage+the weapon to defend against Hela's main attack, what could Hela do other than got punched over and over and over again till she could not sustain the injury anymore?? Again Hela's dagger couldn't hit Wonder Woman since she's faster and stronger, Wonder Woman has the shield+bracelet to defend it as well.


What better feat than obliterate the god of war in seconds?

Sooo because Wonder Woman made Doomsday tip backward by shield bashing his heel and cut a car in half she's stronger than Thor and close to Superman who's > Thor?

So you can't see Thor...knocking a car away or hitting Doomsday's ankle and causing him to tumble?

I'm sure since Batman dodged Doomsday that also means he's close to Supermans speed and much faster than Thor. Smh.

And now she's strong enough to throw someone into the Sun?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Wonder Woman's strength is enough to make Doomsday feel pain and try to avoid it. She could also take on the monster on her own for a little while.

Take a look at Thor VS Kurse, Thor's punch makes no effect to Kurse at all, that's what happens when your strength doesn't come close.

WW hurt DD by cutting him with a sword, not by punching him.
She kept him busy for a while by out fighting him, not by matching his strength

quanchi112
Slowpoke is being eviscerated.

Josh_Alexander
Hela wins quite easily.

If Thor couldn't do it, she won't do it.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sooo because Wonder Woman made Doomsday tip backward by shield bashing his heel and cut a car in half she's stronger than Thor and close to Superman who's > Thor?

So you can't see Thor...knocking a car away or hitting Doomsday's ankle and causing him to tumble?

I'm sure since Batman dodged Doomsday that also means he's close to Supermans speed and much faster than Thor. Smh.

And now she's strong enough to throw someone into the Sun?

Yes, just look at Thor's punch on Kurse. His punch has ZERO effect on Kurse and one punch he got sent away. If the strength gap is too far this happens.

Wonder Woman was able to keep the speed with Doomsday nearly the whole fight, don't use Batman's PIS as an excuse.

Hela has no chance here. All she did was beat a bunch of Asgardians, and 2 M16 could solo many of the undead elite Asgardians in secs.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
WW hurt DD by cutting him with a sword, not by punching him.
She kept him busy for a while by out fighting him, not by matching his strength

WW used the shield bash to force Doomsday go backwards. She cut off the car it threw at her without moving back.

Thor's punch has no effect on Kurse at all. Your attack has no effect when the strength gap is too much.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Yes, just look at Thor's punch on Kurse. His punch has ZERO effect on Kurse and one punch he got sent away. If the strength gap is too far this happens.

Wonder Woman was able to keep the speed with Doomsday nearly the whole fight, don't use Batman's PIS as an excuse.

Hela has no chance here. All she did was beat a bunch of Asgardians, and 2 M16 could solo many of the undead elite Asgardians in secs.


Hela was strong enough to crush Mjolnir, that is better than any strength feat movie WW has.

quanchi112
Kurse would break WW as well. Slowpoke it's ok that the marvel characters have been hammering the softies at DC. The woman needed aid against WW1 soldiers. They were gunning down other Themyscrians or however that's spelled. Weak.

Silent Master
WW doesn't spam AOE's, it's not in character for her.

Silent Master
If she wants to win, she'll have to do something.

Silent Master
We argue in character. so go ahead and post examples of WW using superspeed to cut off people's heads at the start of a fight.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Hela was strong enough to crush Mjolnir, that is better than any strength feat movie WW has.

That's magic, like we've argued before.

Hela never showed much strength factor, Wonder Woman could bash Doomsday and use the lasso to hold it for Superman to finish it.

Slowpoke
Wonder Woman is

stronger
faster
has the lasso to hold Hela
has the shield/bracelet to defend against the daggers.

What could Hela do? Rely on her healing factor till she could keep up with the punches she got?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Wonder Woman is

stronger
faster
has the lasso to hold Hela
has the shield/bracelet to defend against the daggers.

What could Hela do? Rely on her healing factor till she could keep up with the punches she got?

Show strength feats for WW that are on par with crushing Mjolnir.

Darth Thor

Rage.Of.Olympus
Why do people keep mentioning Ares? He did absolutely nothing noteworthy and was killed with one lightning blast. Hela owned the god of lightning and withstood and a lightning bolt the length of Odin's palace.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Yes, just look at Thor's punch on Kurse. His punch has ZERO effect on Kurse and one punch he got sent away. If the strength gap is too far this happens.

Wonder Woman was able to keep the speed with Doomsday nearly the whole fight, don't use Batman's PIS as an excuse.

Hela has no chance here. All she did was beat a bunch of Asgardians, and 2 M16 could solo many of the undead elite Asgardians in secs.

Yes, and Kurse would own Wonder Woman like she owed him money, how is that relevant?

What speed? She kept him busy by flying at him and getting bashed away while barely managing to block with her shield. She did absolutely nothing that Thor couldn't EASILY accomplish.

She shield rammed Doomsday's ankle from behind with her whole body. That has ZERO strength comparison and not nearly as relevant as Thor punching Kurse in the face in a stand-off fist fight.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Show strength feats for WW that are on par with crushing Mjolnir.

Hela's punch didn't even kill any Asgardians, who could be easily chopped down by M16.

Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday head on, uses her lasso to hold it for a while.

Are you seriously still comparing them?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Hela's punch didn't even kill any Asgardians, who could be easily chopped down by M16.

Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday head on, uses her lasso to hold it for a while.

Are you seriously still comparing them? What impressive characters were killed by WW's punches ?

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why do people keep mentioning Ares? He did absolutely nothing noteworthy and was killed with one lightning blast. Hela owned the god of lightning and withstood and a lightning bolt the length of Odin's palace.



Yes, and Kurse would own Wonder Woman like she owed him money, how is that relevant?

What speed? She kept him busy by flying at him and getting bashed away while barely managing to block with her shield. She did absolutely nothing that Thor couldn't EASILY accomplish.

She shield rammed Doomsday's ankle from behind with her whole body. That has ZERO strength comparison and not nearly as relevant as Thor punching Kurse in the face in a stand-off fist fight.

No, Wonder Woman could fight on Doomsday, who was even stronger than Superman, who could destroy the World Machine under its extreme pressure.

No, Wonder Woman was keep damaging it, even mainly holding it when Superman was talking to Lois. She got punched away and had to use her shield to hold the blast and suffer 0 damage as well. In the end she could use the lasso to hold Doomsday for a while for Superman to aim it as well.

Yes it is, Kurse didn't do anything to defend Thor's punch, he simply took it and nothing happened at all.

Seriously, Asgardians could be soloed by M16 machine guns, I don't know why you are still comparing them.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Hela's punch didn't even kill any Asgardians, who could be easily chopped down by M16.

Hela never punched any of the undead Asgardians, you need to stop lying.



That is a massively biased view of what happened.



As Hela has the far better strength feat and this is a Hela vs WW thread, why wouldn't I compare their strength?

quanchi112
Themyscirians were being killed by WW 1 weaponry. laughing out loud


Asgard stomps all over this pitiful people. WW needed help from her skank boyfriend and his friends to gain the edge over the Germans. It's way worse for WW than it is for Thor and Asgard, sporto.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Seriously, Asgardians could be soloed by M16 machine guns, I don't know why you are still comparing them.

Correction, undead Asgardians that had been decomposing for at least a 1,000 years. no living Asgardian has ever been damaged by a bullet.

However, WW was hurt by a bullet from a relatively weak WWI era rifle.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Hela never punched any of the undead Asgardians, you need to stop lying.
The undead Asgardians were elites revived by the eternal flame, they were about to KILL all of those living Asgardians if not for Loki's men and the M16 rampage. FACT.



This is what happened here. Wonder Woman is on THIS level and Hela couldn't punch any Asgardians to death, who were owned by the undead and the undead were slaughtered by M16


Stop bringing up that again, she was nowhere close to the level of Superman or Doomsday. She rely on blades to kill people not strength, and that's not really impressive compare to the M16's work.

Silent Master
Nothing you stated refutes any of my points.

quanchi112
Superman's strength passed out due to the strain of a common tower. His strength also couldn't even disable Batman and his laughable excuse of an upgraded suit. Hela pierces WW easily. She's so the same to Superman or Doomsday. A better warrior, superior reflexes, and nigh limitless projectiles.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Correction, undead Asgardians that had been decomposing for at least a 1,000 years. no living Asgardian has ever been damaged by a bullet.

However, WW was hurt by a bullet from a relatively weak WWI era rifle.


They were stronger and faster than most of the living Asgardians, if the decomposing had any effect this would not have happened at all. They were OWNING the living Asgardians badly. Stop bringing that argument, without Loki's men and the M16 all of those living Asgardians were going to be killed, even Heimdall couldn't hold a couple of them.

M16>>>>>>Undead Asgardians>>>>>Living Asgardians.

Stop bringing it up. Wonder Woman has the shield and bracelet to defend against weapons, she also has the superior strength, she owns Hela.

Silent Master
Being stronger doesn't mean they were more durable. WW has no feats of strength equal to crushing Mjolnir.

quanchi112
WW can't even laugh off bullets. Hela slaughters her in record time. Her BF Steve and his pals aren't here to help as they did against the WW1 Germans.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Being stronger doesn't mean they were more durable. WW has no feats of strength equal to crushing Mjolnir.

They were, they were the elites who had fought those wars and conquered for Odin, they had the eternal flame's magic from them.

Tell me how they are not more durable? If the decomposing has any effect on their fighting skill, they would not be that strong or fast at all. Even they couldn't take on M16 and died like rats.

Again this is magic as we saw from the rest of the movie. Wonder Woman was showing much much higher strength factor during REAL melee fight against Doomsday. Just compare the two fights and it's easy to see the difference here.

quanchi112
Slowpoke is honestly going to compare WW and her limited fighting with Doomsday. It was obvious she didn't have anywhere near the strength of DD and was only able to contend with him due to her skill edge and the fact she had help.

Silent Master
Nothing you have stated actually refutes any of the points I've made, especially the one in regards to Hela having the better strength feat.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by quanchi112
Slowpoke is honestly going to compare WW and her limited fighting with Doomsday. It was obvious she didn't have anywhere near the strength of DD and was only able to contend with him due to her skill edge and the fact she had help.

She was able to shieldbash Doomsday to cause it to react
Hold on the energy blast with her shield without being blasted off.
Cut off the car it threw to her without moving back much
Use the lasso to hold Doomsday for a little while


If she was nowhere close to Doomsday we would have seen something like Thor VS Kurse, Kurse could simply stand there and take the punches then one hit sends Thor flying.

They were close and Hela was not even on the same league.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
She was able to shieldbash Doomsday to cause it to react
Hold on the energy blast with her shield without being blasted off.
Cut off the car it threw to her without moving back much
Use the lasso to hold Doomsday for a little while


If she was nowhere close to Doomsday we would have seen something like Thor VS Kurse, Kurse could simply stand there and take the punches then one hit sends Thor flying.

They were close and Hela was not even on the same league. So she is Cap strong since he was able to hold his ground and withstand a Mjolnir strike which wrecked the immediate area. She wasn't as strong as Doomsday nor was she strong enough to truly hurt him. She was an irritant and not a true threat to Doomsday. That's blatantly obvious so quit overselling her importance.

Thor sent Hulk flying in certain scenes and not in other ones. It's the same with every fighter with super strength. Kurse beat on Thor and he was ended with aid just as Doomsday was defeated with aid also. WW had no chance against him.

No, Hela was beyond Thor. The film best you over the ****ing head with it. She solids Asgard and only Surtur was powerful enough to stop her. Their combined efforts wouldn't have beaten her. Try being honest for a change

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
WW used the shield bash to force Doomsday go backwards. She cut off the car it threw at her without moving back.

Thor's punch has no effect on Kurse at all. Your attack has no effect when the strength gap is too much.

So in short, WW never punched DD. Why then are you trying to compare her shield bash with Thor's punch? Are you saying that in order for WW to match Thor's punch she needs to use a shield bash?

Slowpoke
Originally posted by quanchi112
So she is Cap strong since he was able to hold his ground and withstand a Mjolnir strike which wrecked the immediate area. She wasn't as strong as Doomsday nor was she strong enough to truly hurt him. She was an irritant and not a true threat to Doomsday. That's blatantly obvious so quit overselling her importance.

Thor sent Hulk flying in certain scenes and not in other ones. It's the same with every fighter with super strength. Kurse beat on Thor and he was ended with aid just as Doomsday was defeated with aid also. WW had no chance against him.

No, Hela was beyond Thor. The film best you over the ****ing head with it. She solids Asgard and only Surtur was powerful enough to stop her. Their combined efforts wouldn't have beaten her. Try being honest for a change

Show me where did Cap' shield bash hurt Doomsday or he could use ropes to hold Doomsday for a while? Cap's shield has special technology to hold off a huge amount of the shocking wave as well.

Yes, Hela was beyond Thor, and Superman&Wonder Woman are far above Thor's strength and speed. Wonder Woman has the perfect weapon to counter Hela' deadliest blade attack. She could both defend and dodge these attacks, at the same time punch her over and over till she could not catch up anymore.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Show me where did Cap' shield bash hurt Doomsday or he could use ropes to hold Doomsday for a while? Cap's shield has special technology to hold off a huge amount of the shocking wave as well.

Yes, Hela was beyond Thor, and Superman&Wonder Woman are far above Thor's strength and speed. Wonder Woman has the perfect weapon to counter Hela' deadliest blade attack. She could both defend and dodge these attacks, at the same time punch her over and over till she could not catch up anymore. Cap's shield block doesn't mean he's as strong as Thor. Just as her shield bash doesn't translate into her strength alone. There's a weapon involved. You are comparing her using a shield to Thor punching. Excuses and double standards. Hilarious.

False, WW wasn't even above WW 1 soldiers without human aid. Superman was defeated by one human with weakness exploitation one on one. Continue to make up things while I'll cite facts so decimate your ridiculous claims.

Nah, she was kind of screwed against the Germans with her shield. Hela just rains down nigh limitless projectiles until they kill her. She can't harm Hela at all.

laughing out loud

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
So in short, WW never punched DD. Why then are you trying to compare her shield bash with Thor's punch? Are you saying that in order for WW to match Thor's punch she needs to use a shield bash?

They were both blunt attacks mostly rely on the person's strength, Doomsday is bigger than Kurse as well. Wonder Woman could hold Doomsday for a while with her lasso, forcing it to use its energy burst not raw strength to break away.

Thor, on the other hand, could do nothing to hurt Kurse at all.

You don't get to hurt the foe or hold it when the strength gap is too much.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cap's shield block doesn't mean he's as strong as Thor. Just as her shield bash doesn't translate into her strength alone. There's a weapon involved. You are comparing her using a shield to Thor punching. Excuses and double standards. Hilarious.

False, WW wasn't even above WW 1 soldiers without human aid. Superman was defeated by one human with weakness exploitation one on one. Continue to make up things while I'll cite facts so decimate your ridiculous claims.

Nah, she was kind of screwed against the Germans with her shield. Hela just rains down nigh limitless projectiles until they kill her. She can't harm Hela at all.

laughing out loud

Cap's shield has special technology in it to absorb the shockwave, bad example here.

Bad examples here again. Superman was keep holding back otherwise Batman would be dead in first touch. Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday and Doomsday>Zod> many many modern soldiers>M16>Undead Asgardians>Living Asgardians.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
They were both blunt attacks mostly rely on the person's strength, Doomsday is bigger than Kurse as well. Wonder Woman could hold Doomsday for a while with her lasso, forcing it to use its energy burst not raw strength to break away.

Thor, on the other hand, could do nothing to hurt Kurse at all.

You don't get to hurt the foe or hold it when the strength gap is too much. One has a weak which absorbs a lot of the force not just her bare hands. It isn't equal at all. So ?

Totally different situations.

You didn't prove any strength advantage. laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Cap's shield has special technology in it to absorb the shockwave, bad example here.

Bad examples here again. Superman was keep holding back otherwise Batman would be dead in first touch. Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday and Doomsday>Zod> many many modern soldiers>M16>Undead Asgardians>Living Asgardians. So you admit a shield absorbs part of the blunt force. This also applies to WW since it isn't just her strength it's a shield.

Speculation. Superman attacked. Superman didn't have to kill just decimate his armor. Cap beat Iron Man he didn't have to kill him to beat him.

Horrendous logic.

WW needed aid against WW 1 Germans. laughing out loud

Slowpoke
Originally posted by quanchi112
One has a weak which absorbs a lot of the force not just her bare hands. It isn't equal at all. So ?

Totally different situations.

You didn't prove any strength advantage. laughing out loud

Show me where did it say Wonder Woman's shield has same effect as Cap's?

She did take on the heat vision blast with her bare hands as well.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit a shield absorbs part of the blunt force. This also applies to WW since it isn't just her strength it's a shield.

Speculation. Superman attacked. Superman didn't have to kill just decimate his armor. Cap beat Iron Man he didn't have to kill him to beat him.

Horrendous logic.

WW needed aid against WW 1 Germans. laughing out loud

Cap's shield has such ability, not WW's.

Superman was trying to reason with him and didn't want to kill Batman, then he was weakened by the gas, I don't see why is it hard to understand.

Again, Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday and Doomsday>Zod> many many modern soldiers>M16>Undead Asgardians>Living Asgardians.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Show me where did it say Wonder Woman's shield has same effect as Cap's?

She did take on the heat vision blast with her bare hands as well. A shield absorbs the impact for the most part you idiot. It's like saying a bullet proof vest proves durability. Do you know how shields work ?

Can she tank bullets ?

laughing out loud

Slowpoke
Originally posted by quanchi112
A shield absorbs the impact for the most part you idiot. It's like saying a bullet proof vest proves durability. Do you know how shields work ?

Can she tank bullets ?

laughing out loud
No, only Cap's shield has such ability to absorb the shockwave, you can try to use a shield to take on a strong smash let's see what happens.

Now you are left with personal insult, that's ugly and pretty much means you are out of logical arugment.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
No, only Cap's shield has such ability to absorb the shockwave, you can try to use a shield to take on a strong smash let's see what happens.

Now you are left with personal insult, that's ugly and pretty much means you are out of logical arugment. His strength isn't comparable to Thor's yet his shield can block Mjolnir. That's the point. WW relied on weapons as you said that doesn't mean jack.

I insult stupidity so don't be stupid and I won't be mean. smile

HulkIsHulk
Okay. Just one thing. When was WW cut by anything? I don't recall any such instances? In fact against Gen Luder whatever he tried to stab her with her sword but she caught it by the blade no problem

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
They were both blunt attacks mostly rely on the person's strength, Doomsday is bigger than Kurse as well. Wonder Woman could hold Doomsday for a while with her lasso, forcing it to use its energy burst not raw strength to break away.

Thor, on the other hand, could do nothing to hurt Kurse at all.

You don't get to hurt the foe or hold it when the strength gap is too much.

Except that getting hit with a shield is a lot more painful than getting hit with a punch. So unless WW actually hurt DD with a punch, your comparison is invalid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Okay. Just one thing. When was WW cut by anything? I don't recall any such instances? In fact against Gen Luder whatever he tried to stab her with her sword but she caught it by the blade no problem I want you to be perfectly clear here. What's your point ?

FrothByte
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Okay. Just one thing. When was WW cut by anything? I don't recall any such instances? In fact against Gen Luder whatever he tried to stab her with her sword but she caught it by the blade no problem

Fight on the beach. Diana gets a cut on her arm.

Silent Master
Slowpokes troll tactic appears to be purposely misinterpreting scenes in order to lowball characters he doesn't like and conversely exaggerate the abilities of those he does.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
Except that getting hit with a shield is a lot more painful than getting hit with a punch. So unless WW actually hurt DD with a punch, your comparison is invalid.
Not really, punch is easier to focus the strength, especially on their strength level and durability.

You are keep avoiding the other facts WW had proven in that battle against Doomsday as well. She is stronger and quicker, has the weapon advantage here.

Silent Master
Hela crushed Mjolnir, WW doesn't have any strength feats on that level.

Slowpoke
It's obviously magic because her later fight never showed very high strength compare to Superman and Wonder Woman. Even her blade threw didn't have such strength as well.

This is pretty much it when you can only use such example to show she got strength advantage and ignore most of the movie showed her true strength.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Not really, punch is easier to focus the strength, especially on their strength level and durability.

You are keep avoiding the other facts WW had proven in that battle against Doomsday as well. She is stronger and quicker, has the weapon advantage here.

I can get behind WW being quicker. But stronger? After she caught and held Mjolnir then crushed it all with zero effort?

And even worse: weapon advantage?? Hela was a walking weapon factory. How in the world does WW have the weapon advantage here?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
It's obviously magic because her later fight never showed very high strength compare to Superman and Wonder Woman. Even her blade threw didn't have such strength as well.

This is pretty much it when you can only use such example to show she got strength advantage and ignore most of the movie showed her true strength.

Your opinion isn't proof.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Not really, punch is easier to focus the strength, especially on their strength level and durability.

You are keep avoiding the other facts WW had proven in that battle against Doomsday as well. She is stronger and quicker, has the weapon advantage here.

So if I were to punch you in the face with my fist, you think it would hurt less if I hit you with a metal shield instead?

Heck if this is your way of thinking we might as well say that Thor can hit harder with just his fists than with mjolnir.

WW is not proven in battle against DD. She fought a 3 v. 1 battle against DD. She fought him solo for only a few seconds.

Silent Master
He knows Hela was shown using strength, the sock is just trolling.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Nibedicus
None of that discredits the fact that she used strength for the hammer catch and crush.

So you have nothing to continue our debate?

Agreed.

Just more trolling.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
So if I were to punch you in the face with my fist, you think it would hurt less if I hit you with a metal shield instead?

Heck if this is your way of thinking we might as well say that Thor can hit harder with just his fists than with mjolnir.

WW is not proven in battle against DD. She fought a 3 v. 1 battle against DD. She fought him solo for only a few seconds.

We are NOT talking about ordinary humans, but supernatural beings whose skin is TOUGHER than metal, so it doesn't matter. Superman using a fist to punch is not weaker than a shield smash, since he could focus his strength on the fist punch better.

Yes she was, quite a few scenes proved her durability, strength and speed factor was on par or close to Superman/Doomsday, with THIS and the weapon advantage, Hela got no chance because she is mostly a physical fighter as well.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
We are NOT talking about ordinary humans, but supernatural beings whose skin is TOUGHER than metal, so it doesn't matter. Superman using a fist to punch is not weaker than a shield smash, since he could focus his strength on the fist punch better.

Yes she was, quite a few scenes proved her durability, strength and speed factor was on par or close to Superman/Doomsday, with THIS and the weapon advantage, Hela got no chance because she is mostly a physical fighter as well.

For one, Hela is stronger.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I can get behind WW being quicker. But stronger? After she caught and held Mjolnir then crushed it all with zero effort?

And even worse: weapon advantage?? Hela was a walking weapon factory. How in the world does WW have the weapon advantage here?

Yes, Hela couldn't even smash any of the Asgardians with her raw power and had to rely on weapons to do so, and Asgardians could be easily killed by M16. By your logic Vision much be much much stronger than Hulk right?

Wonder Woman's shield/bracelet is perfect against Hela's blade threw along with the speed advantage, she has the lasso to shackle Hela as well, with these 3 advantages, what could Hela do other than rely on how long her healing factor could keep up?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Yes, Hela couldn't even smash any of the Asgardians with her raw power and had to rely on weapons to do so, and Asgardians could be easily killed by M16. By your logic Vision much be much much stronger than Hulk right?

Wonder Woman's shield/bracelet is perfect against Hela's blade threw along with the speed advantage, she has the lasso to shackle Hela as well, with these 3 advantages, what could Hela do other than rely on how long her healing factor could keep up?

Hela crushed Mjolnir, which is much better than anything WW has done strength wise.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Hela crushed Mjolnir, which is much better than anything WW has done strength wise.

And she couldn't crush any of the Asgardians with her punch, when M16 could do it easily. THIS has proved it's pure magic buff.

Otherwise Hulk sucks on raw strength compare to Vision and Thor because he could not lift the hammer.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
And she couldn't crush any of the Asgardians with her punch, when M16 could do it easily. THIS has proved it's pure magic buff.

Otherwise Hulk sucks on raw strength compare to Vision and Thor because he could not lift the hammer.

All you're doing is proving that living Asgardians have great durability.

Hela crushing Mjolnir is a better strength feat than anything WW did.

Slowpoke
Seriously I don't get why people are still arguing for this.

Hela had many many scenes of showing her physical strength, none of them were incredible other than crush hammer thing. We also knew Mjolnir is a magical object, it's obvious that she used magic to crush it.

Otherwise we would have to admit that M16 could make the same effect as well.

Hela was strong, but mainly as a physical fighter she had huge disadvantage against DCEU heroes. The M16 scene further proved how weak the Asgardians were.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
All you're doing is proving that living Asgardians have great durability.

Hela crushing Mjolnir is a better strength feat than anything WW did.

Yes, great durability, the elite undead Asgardians with the magical flame buff were killed by M16 like ease.

Vision holding the hammer is better strength feat than Hulk, same with Thor, and we still see Hulk smashes.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Seriously I don't get why people are still arguing for this.

Hela had many many scenes of showing her physical strength, none of them were incredible other than crush hammer thing. We also knew Mjolnir is a magical object, it's obvious that she used magic to crush it.

Otherwise we would have to admit that M16 could make the same effect as well.

Hela was strong, but mainly as a physical fighter she had huge disadvantage against DCEU heroes. The M16 scene further proved how weak the Asgardians were.

Yep, Hela was strong enough to crush Mjolnir, which is much better than anything WW did with strength.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Yes, great durability, the elite undead Asgardians with the magical flame buff were killed by M16 like ease.

Vision holding the hammer is better strength feat than Hulk, same with Thor, and we still see Hulk smashes.

Thanks for agreeing that living Asgardians had better durability feats than the undead

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yep, Hela was strong enough to crush Mjolnir, which is much better than anything WW did with strength.



Thanks for agreeing that living Asgardians had better durability feats than the undead

And she couldn't crush any of her foes, that means she was using magic.

Yeah, the elite undead Asgardians, who were kicking the living ones' ass badly, were obliterated by M16.

You are keep saying the living Asgardians are better but the movie didn't show us it. They were owned badly by the elite undead.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
And she couldn't crush any of her foes, that means she was using magic.

Yeah, the elite undead Asgardians, who were kicking the living ones' ass badly, were obliterated by M16.

Which is a great durability feat for them given that Hela can crush Mjolnir. what does WW have that can match it?

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Which is a great durability feat for them given that Hela can crush Mjolnir. what does WW have that can match it?

Prove it. You are using your statement as your proof, this is a way of fallacy.

We saw the undead elite Asgardians were owning the living ones badly, they got obliterated by M16. Nothing ever showed they got weaker durability at all.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Prove it. You are using your statement as your proof, this is a way of fallacy.

We saw the undead elite Asgardians were owning the living ones badly, they got obliterated by M16. Nothing ever showed they got weaker durability at all.

Watch the movie, Hela is strong enough to easily crush Mjolnir.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by Silent Master
Watch the movie, Hela is strong enough to easily crush Mjolnir.

So it's all you got now? Numerous scenes has shown Hela's true strength and Mjolnir itself has proved to be a magical item not rely on raw physcial strength to break. You just hold on it and ignoring everything else because they are all against your point and even this doesn't make a good argument.

Then that's pretty much it since this argument is over.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Slowpoke
So it's all you got now? Numerous scenes has shown Hela's true strength and Mjolnir itself has proved to be a magical item not rely on raw physcial strength to break. You just hold on it and ignoring everything else because they are all against your point and even this doesn't make a good argument.

Then that's pretty much it since this argument is over.

I have Hela being strong enough to crush Mjolnir. what do you have from WW to match?

Nibedicus

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Yes, Hela couldn't even smash any of the Asgardians with her raw power and had to rely on weapons to do so, and Asgardians could be easily killed by M16. By your logic Vision much be much much stronger than Hulk right?

Wonder Woman's shield/bracelet is perfect against Hela's blade threw along with the speed advantage, she has the lasso to shackle Hela as well, with these 3 advantages, what could Hela do other than rely on how long her healing factor could keep up? The same argument decimates WW since she relied on her weapons against Doomsday along with help from Superman and Batman. So you'll use double standards and repeat baseless arguments all trolling. Hela easily overpowered Thor and she used her abilities to solo Asgard's military. The undead army was killing non warrior asgardians. Seriously your argument is terrible.

FrothByte
No living asgardian was killed by an M16...

Darth Thor

Slowpoke
Really?

The undead Asgardians were the elite soldiers who fought in real war, not the living ones who were built in peace time.
The undead Asgardians were buffed by the eternal flame, which was a big magic bonus.
The undead Asgardians were very strong and fast, they were owning the living ones badly, even Heimdall almost got killed by them.

Tell me where did it say their durability were lower than the living ones, when they got such high strength, speed, fighting skill and got very strong overall menace to the living ones?



I don't? Hela had a whole movie to show her strength and it's obviously not really high, her punches and dagger throwing both proved that, of course it means her crushing Mjolnir feat was magic.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
No living asgardian was killed by an M16...
Yeah, they were getting their ass kicked by the undead ones and M16 killed them super fast.

Silent Master
Hela was strong enough to crush Mjolnir.

Slowpoke
Now the only feat Hela could bring out was crushing Mjolnir. Yet it was a magical item and we had the later fights to show her physical strength, which was much more reliable than using a magical item to measure.

Wonder Woman had numerous scenes against Doomsday to prove her superior strength and speed, along with the weapon advantage, this is really a waste of time to deny the silly fact.

Silent Master
Wonder Woman has no strength feats that are as good or better then crushing Mjolnir.

FrothByte
Let's keep this simple. Name me an opponent that WW beat physically who was as strong and durable as an average Asgardian?

Nibedicus

quanchi112
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Yeah, they were getting their ass kicked by the undead ones and M16 killed them super fast. The trained asgardians were killed by Hela. You're a DC posters sock.

Slowpoke
Originally posted by FrothByte
Let's keep this simple. Name me an opponent that WW beat physically who was as strong and durable as an average Asgardian?

Someone obliterated in seconds by M16? I could list a lot.

Slowpoke
1) 2) 3) 4)Show me where did it say they have worse durability at all? Where is your proof? If you want to show they are not the same you need to give proof.

We saw the undead Asgardians were kicking the living ones' ass badly and almost kill those on the ship. Even Heimdall was almost killed by them. They were shown as extremely strong against the living Asgardians both on strength and speed. Tell me WHERE did it show their durability is bad? Even when they were cut down by magic or sword, they weren't falling slower than the living Asgardians.

5) So Vision showed his strength by lifting the hammer and Hulk couldn't do so, what could it prove on strength? You are keep using a very vague example which was a magical item even though nearly rest of the entire movie was showing us she didn't have much higher strength. This is a very weak statement as I have pointed out pages ago, it's a big waste of time here.

Slowpoke
I think that's pretty much it, when it comes to just "she crushed Mjolnir" it becomes a really weak argument as I've pointed out. That's pretty much it, welcome to repeat the same thing again.

Nibedicus

TheVaultDweller
We see the undead Asgardians (including their armour) pretty much crumple under gunfire. We've seen automatic fire harmlessly ping off regular Asgardian plate, and Loki take a bullet to the face without issues before.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Someone obliterated in seconds by M16? I could list a lot.

Either you have reading comprehension issues or you're flat out trolling. I said name an opponent that WW physically beat that was as strong or as durable as an Asgardian.

quanchi112

Raisen
holy shiit. is that slowpoke dude arguing for wonder woman in this? come on man

h1a8

Josh_Alexander

FrothByte
H1 vs Josh? Let me grab some popcorn.

h1a8

Silent Master
Wonder Woman almost never fought at superspeed and we argue in character, you should know that.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wonder Woman almost never fought at superspeed and we argue in character, you should know that.

I disagree. She fought in superspeed every time a projectile came her way. That means she would operate at superspeed 100% of the time when a projectile comes her way.

She also fought in superspeed multiple times outside that.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. She fought in superspeed every time a projectile came her way. That means she would operate at superspeed 100% of the time when a projectile comes her way.

She also fought in superspeed multiple times outside that.

Trying to block weapons thrown by someone that is strong enough to crush Mjolnir would be a very bad idea.

Go ahead and post the examples of her fighting at super speed multiple times.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Trying to block weapons thrown by someone that is strong enough to crush Mjolnir would be a very bad idea.

Go ahead and post the examples of her fighting at super speed multiple times.

So you are basing her strength off the one showing?
And if so, then are you suggesting that the strength she throws weapons at is equal to that of crushing Mjolnir?

Multiple means two or more times. Clearly you can think of two separate scenes where she used speed to fight. Can you?

Silent Master
You did not refute any of my points or answer my question.

BruceSkywalker
im having nacho cheese popcorn while laughing at the stupid people in here

h1a8

Silent Master
Show examples.

nfactor1995
Hela wins

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Show examples.

Post clips?
Just watch those scenes. Do you have access to the movie? If you do and don't see her moving at super human speeds in the scenes I named then let me know.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Post clips?
Just watch those scenes. Do you have access to the movie? If you do and don't see her moving at super human speeds in the scenes I named then let me know.

Show examples.

h1a8
I asked you questions.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
I asked you questions.

Show examples.

h1a8

Silent Master
Show examples.

BruceSkywalker

h1a8

Silent Master
You made the claim.

Show examples.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by FrothByte
H1 vs Josh? Let me grab some popcorn.


laughing out loud

Silent Master
Originally posted by FrothByte
H1 vs Josh? Let me grab some popcorn.

Agreed, as they both have a habit of low-balling characters they don't like and ignoring context. This should be fun.

Oh yeah, they also exaggerate the feats of their preferred characters.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
You made the claim.

Show examples.

So you admit to not having seen the movie.

Inhuman
Its funny that every time slow motion is used in these movies (Especially Snyder and co. movies , WW included) , then people auto assume that characters move at light speed because of it.

Protip: Its just an overused effect to make the scene look "Like totally rad dude!"

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
So you admit to not having seen the movie.

Unlike you, I've seen the movies in question. I mean you didn't even know that Ares casually destroyed Wonder Woman's sword.

Inhuman
Originally posted by Silent Master
Unlike you, I've seen the movies in question. I mean you didn't even know that Ares casually destroyed Wonder Woman's sword.

People still acting like WW sword is some special magical thing? I thought it was made clear that it was just a regular Amazonian sword that they made her believe was special.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Inhuman
Its funny that every time slow motion is used in these movies (Especially Snyder and co. movies , WW included) , then people auto assume that characters move at light speed because of it.

Protip: Its just an overused effect to make the scene look "Like totally rad dude!"

True, if you look at the scene where she is walking towards the German's line. when she raised her arm to block the bullet, her arm was moving at around the same speed as her legs. IE, no superspeed involved.

Inhuman
Originally posted by Silent Master
True, if you look at the scene where she is walking towards the German's line. when she raised her arm to block the bullet, her arm was moving at around the same speed as her legs. IE, no superspeed involved.

Cap, Winter Soldier and other characters including the Netflick ones have dodge and blocked bullets before. If their scenes were shot in slow motion would people think these characters were all moving at ultra super speed?

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