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- Mace as of TCW
- Vos as of DD
- Maul as of SOD

Who wins and why?

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Mace Windu

Vos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxrMEQlTMvs

Maul > Palps confirmed

Mace, rofl.

In canon, anyone can ragdoll the other if they aren't paying attention. Passive barriers don't exist. Vader ragdolled Sheev in his comic.


Mace blowing away hundreds of battle droids takes the win.

Glad to see the whole "force cocoon" covering force users all the time in battle, isn't a thing here. Its tiring to keep preaching about it all the time.

Originally posted by Kurk
In canon, anyone can ragdoll the other if they aren't paying attention. Passive barriers don't exist. Vader ragdolled Sheev in his comic.


Mace blowing away hundreds of battle droids takes the win.
What makes you think Palpatine wasn't paying attention? He was actively blasting him with lightning, FFS.

Not only was Maul resisting Palpatine's lightning without any "superconducting loop"( ) but he simultaneously pinned him to the wall and kept him there. You can plainly see that Palpatine couldn't simply overpower Maul's grip and had to resort to crashing that chandelier.

Not even Yoda did something like that.

And if you're referring to Mace's feat from the 2003 cartoon then .

Can't tell if trolling.

Originally posted by Unbowed
What makes you think Palpatine wasn't paying attention? He was actively blasting him with lightning, FFS.

Not only was Maul resisting Palpatine's lightning without any "superconducting loop"( ) but he simultaneously pinned him to the wall and kept him there. You can plainly see that Palpatine couldn't simply overpower Maul's grip and had to resort to crashing that chandelier.

Not even Yoda did something like that.

And if you're referring to Mace's feat from the 2003 cartoon then . Him being on the full offensive blasting lightning at two people means he's not focusing on defensive capabilities at that moment. If he wasn't mentally expecting Maul to try something like that, it doesn't matter what he was doing. He didn't expect Vader to throw him down a shaft either while blasting Luke.

Why isn't the 2003 cartoon fair game? You're using a deleted scene

Originally posted by Kurk
Him being on the full offensive blasting lightning at two people means he's not focusing on defensive capabilities at that moment. If he wasn't mentally expecting Maul to try something like that, it doesn't matter what he was doing. He didn't expect Vader to throw him down a shaft either while blasting Luke.
So let me understand this, Palpatine was the one with the disadvantage in that scene? Not Maul? Is that your rationale? He couldn't defend himself because he was too busy frying his opponent with lightning?

Let me try that logic: Maul being on the full defensive blocking Palpatine's lightning means he's not focusing on his offensive capabilities. Ergo his feat is even more impressive, since he just casually ragdolled Palpatine with just 1% of his attention, while the other 99% was focused on maintaining his defense.

How do you like them apples?

And nice comparison. Because being blindsided from behind by someone you trust - while you're attacking someone else - is the same as being attacked from the front. By your opponent. In the heat of battle.

Why isn't the 2003 cartoon fair game? You're using a deleted scene
You mean the same series that had characters like Durge? That shit is barely above the lego games.

By all means, cling to that feat if you want. But wake me up when Mace uses the Force in any way against another Force user.

Maul overpowered Kenobi with the Force at least twice, something only Dooku was ever shown to do, and which Anakin failed to do on Mustafar. What has Mace ever done?

Has Mace showed even one single instance of using the Force against another Force user? Even something as simple as a push?

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Glad to see the whole "force cocoon" covering force users all the time in battle, isn't a thing here. Its tiring to keep preaching about it all the time.

Apparently not fully.

People still can't understand that force pushes or ragdolls mean precisely jack shit in canon. There is no "overpowering" involved, just catching your opponent off guard with a force based attack.

And yeah, the deleted scene isn't applicable, for obvious reasons. It isn't canon. Unless there is an explicit statement, unambiguously, and specifically, confirming it to be canon.

Deleted scenes aren't canon until specifically canonised.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/818593436567736322

"So the deleted scene on the Blu Ray may not be what canonically happened?"

Hidalgo: "Nope."

Sorry to shit on your parade, Unbowed.

Originally posted by ILS
Sorry to shit on your parade, Unbowed.
That's ok. I'm used to this dump being a "my quote > your quote" echo chamber anyway.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Apparently not fully.

People still can't understand that force pushes or ragdolls mean precisely jack shit in canon. There is no "overpowering" involved, just catching your opponent off guard with a force based attack.
Don't associate Unbowed with KMC.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Mace, rofl.
Look who decided to show up