Ahsoka Tano (S1) vs. Ezra Bridger (S4)
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|King Joker|
Ahsoka Tano as of The Clone Wars: Season 1 versus Ezra Bridger as of Star Wars Rebels: Season 4.
The battle takes place aboard the Tranquility.
Kurk
Ahsoka wins via environment familiarity advantage
|King Joker|
Disregard that
Kurk
Ahsoka, by the end of S1, has achieved both formal training from the jedi-temple in addition to real-life combat experience under Anakin, Luminara, Aayla, Rex, Obi-wan, and so on. She has contended with Grievous, Magnaguards, Ventress, Cad Bane, and countless numbers of battle-droids in various environments.
Ezra certainly has similar combat experience, but is lacking in the formal jedi training department in addition to foes. He struggled against the inquisitors, who were stated to be high-padawan/low jedi-knight level hunters.
A duel between these two would not be decided by their saber skills, though I would give the slightest edge to Tano, but rather by their overall knowledge-base and how they can employ it in combat. I personally believe that anything that Tano tookaway from Anakin is more valuable than what Ezra learnt from Kanan.
Ezra might take a round or two out of ten.
Zenwolf
Originally posted by Kurk
. He struggled against the inquisitors, who were stated to be high-padawan/low jedi-knight level hunters.
You guys continue to confuse me..
DarthAnt66
Honestly? Ahsoka.
Fated Xtasy
Ezra penetrates her defenses, easily :3
godemperortrump
Ahsoka wins. She's a prodigy, Ezra isn't.
Kurk
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Ezra penetrates her defenses, easily :3 But can he penetrate her hymen?
DarthDuelist9
On topic, Ezra. Mismatch
godemperortrump
Ahsoka contending with Ventress, Grievous, Darkside Barriss etc. is FAR beyond Ezra
TenebrousWay
Ahsoka godslaughter.
Kurk
Originally posted by Kurk
But can he penetrate her hymen?
godemperortrump
Can she penetrate his hymen?
Greysentinel365
Ezra was probably better in S2 than he is now. The last few episodes he's just been pathetic.
I'd side Ahsoka honestly
ares834
Ezra has become shit. He gets wasted.
Big Gerald
Spite against poor Ezra. Can we ban threads like this and their creators?
DarthDuelist9
This thread is just absolutely pathetic
Zenwolf
So you're flip flopping now?
In fact, seems the lot of you have radically changed your views on Ezra, so is Kanan in that same boat?
DarthDuelist9
Originally posted by Zenwolf
So you're flip flopping now?
In fact, seems the lot of you have radically changed your views on Ezra, so is Kanan in that same boat?
It's because they don't like Rebels
|King Joker|
Originally posted by Big Gerald
Spite against poor Ezra. Can we ban threads like this and their creators? ***** what
Originally posted by Zenwolf
So you're flip flopping now?
In fact, seems the lot of you have radically changed your views on Ezra, so is Kanan in that same boat? How am I flip flopping exactly?
Zenwolf
Originally posted by |King Joker|
***** what
How am I flip flopping exactly?
Weren't you one of the ones that seemed kinda gung-ho with Ezra and Kanan being these two amazing combatants and Force Users? Or was that something else?
Emperordmb
IIRC Joker's afforded Kanan respect before but I don't think he's ever extended anything similar to Ezra.
Ursumeles
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
On topic, Ezra. Mismatch How?
UCanShootMyNova
Kanan deserves his respect for having some of the best augmentation/TK feats in the mythos. Ezra, not so much.
Darth Thor
Also defeating the Grand Inquisitor.
Thought Ezra was supppsed to surpass Kanan by the final season?
TheNuisanceBird
Originally posted by godemperortrump
Ahsoka wins. She's a prodigy, Ezra isn't.
Not sure on how Ahsoka learnt to use the Force but Ezra Force pushing Kallus out of nowhere is pretty good.
DarthDuelist9
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thought Ezra was supppsed to surpass Kanan by the final season?
Yes.
|King Joker|
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thought Ezra was supppsed to surpass Kanan by the final season?
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Yes. Quote?
|King Joker|
Yeah, it definitely doesn't, lol.
DarthDuelist9
Even by the end of season 3 Ezra was nearing Kanan. I'll take FPJ's word (while Filoni was present) over your opinion.
TheNuisanceBird
At the very least Ezra was approaching Kanan's skill level if not on par prior to his blinding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1XyWoP2bY
"Tied again?"
^ Watching this back I actually sorta miss Ezra's blaster saber. I still feel like giving him a green saber was a good idea. Wouldn't be surprised if it helps explain why Luke has a green lightsaber in ROTJ.
Kanan and Ezra at the very least have been portrayed as equals.
To be fair in TCW Anakin and Obi-Wan were portrayed as equals even in the later seasons.
This only started changing in the "Bad Batch" arc.
I think Ezra may have a slight sabers edge although Kanan's definitely the more powerful with the Force out of the two.
Zenwolf
Which is odd, because it seemed more like the other way around in the previous seasons.
DarthDuelist9
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Which is odd, because it seemed more like the other way around in the previous seasons.
Kanan seems more experienced in terms of lightsaber duellig but Ezra has more raw power. Even as of Visions and Voices the Nightsisters basically confirmed that Ezra possessed more power.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
At the very least Ezra was approaching Kanan's skill level if not on par prior to his blinding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1XyWoP2bY
"Tied again?"
I doubt it because that incarnation of Ezra was still no match for an Inquisitor.
DarthDuelist9
Ezra's higher potential was confirmed by FPJ and the Nigjtsisters did imply that he's more powerful as well but as everything in Filoni's animted media it depends from situation per situation. Kanan's greater experience might allow him to access the Force in a more skilled way compared to Ezra. Also, Nightsister possessed Kanan was obviously not comparable to normal Kanan, hell that Kanan was driving back Maul pretty easily.
DarthDuelist9
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I doubt it because that incarnation of Ezra was still no match for an Inquisitor.
By that time he was, he went against them in the beginning of that episode and was only taken out because he saved Kanan.
DarthDuelist9
Struggling with basic Force feats? And well it does since Kanan is Ahsoka's superior.
TheNuisanceBird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQxq9wzFYnI
^ Yeah...Ezra and Kanan were pretty close in terms of skill here.
Ezra's always had a natural talent for beast control, or whatever it is. He's sorta portrayed as a superior albeit slightly in the episodes including the wolves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L_Rwu_Ndqo
^ He went Force Unleashed mode here which is impressive considering it's supposed to show his power. Him plowing through storm troopers supports the theory of him becoming an Ataru user. His style looks to be the Ataru based version of ROTJ Luke's rough around the edges use of Djem So.
Zenwolf
Then Season 4 came..
|King Joker|
^ I was thinking of S5 Ahsoka vs. Ezra with that post, not S1, oops. Though I'm sure a lot of what I says still applies regardless, tbh. But DD9 thinks Ezra > S5 Ahsoka anyways, so who cares, lol.
|King Joker|
Even as of Season 3 it's made clear that Ezra isn't Kanan's level during the Geonosis episodes.
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
At the very least Ezra was approaching Kanan's skill level if not on par prior to his blinding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1XyWoP2bY
"Tied again?"
You understand the difference between sparring matches and actual combat, right?
DarthDuelist9
@Joker: The quoting system isn't working at this moment. Regardless of the Force Jumps what else really? Using augmentation in the animated media to compare certain characters is inconsistent, there are too many irregularities and contradicting facts to effectively use that kind of comparison. Not to mention that Kanan could just have a superior augmentation to begin with, his early season 3 arc was focused around improving his trust in the Force and his senses At the same time why don't you mention how an episode earlier the Nightsisters (a completely unbiased party) claimed Ezra's the stronger of the two?
Also do enlighten me about feats that Ahsoka "performed easily" and Ezra hasn't accomplished in Season 3 or 4. I'm genuinely curious.
DarthDuelist9
@Thor: Maul was moving away because he was getting pushed back and overwhelmed and had no way in defeating the Nightsisters. It's obviously that that version of Kanan is way superior to his normal level.
I do actually agree with that, Ezra isn't on Kanan's level as of Season 2. I do believe Ezra can face Inquisitors, he might not exactly be on their level yet but he can give them a fight and alongside Kanan fight them as peers (besides Kanan has shown to be better than the Fifth Brother, Seventh Sister and Eight Brother by the time of Malachor).
DarthDuelist9
I don't know why people suddenly use some specific moments to suddenly lower Ezra but completely neglect the larger context and the rest of his performances (not to mention how TCW/Rebels is full of inconsistencies because of a certain plot to begin with).
NTJack0
Ahsoka, since Ezra hasn't even had a duel in two seasons. We have no idea where he's at anymore.
TheNuisanceBird
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You understand the difference between sparring matches and actual combat, right?
Still says something though. But yeah, that's a good point.
Zenwolf
Originally posted by NTJack0
Ahsoka, since Ezra hasn't even had a duel in two seasons. We have no idea where he's at anymore.
Can't believe they threw the Inquisitors away tbh...what a total waste.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Can't believe they threw the Inquisitors away tbh...what a total waste.
Yep.
TheNuisanceBird
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Can't believe they threw the Inquisitors away tbh...what a total waste.
Yeah they wasted Jason Isaacs. Since he kept his rotor saber on his back I wonder if he'd fly into battle like a ****in seagull.
Emperordmb
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Yeah they wasted Jason Isaacs. Since he kept his rotor saber on his back I wonder if he'd fly into battle like a ****in seagull.
Or a pelican

TheNuisanceBird
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Or a pelican
I honestly wish we had gotten to see that. The Inquisitors flying with their lightsabers was already ridiculous it wouldn't have made a difference.
The way the Eighth Brother ambushes Ezra and Kanan reminds me of air capable transformers entering a battle.
It was ridiculous but if done better it could've worked.
DarthDuelist9
Alright, let me then show you another example in that exact same scene. First both Saw and Rex commented on how - even with Kanan's help - they couldn't get to the other side like Ezra. Next they shoot a bridge and Kanan holds it so that they can get to the other side. Yet how is it possible that Kanan can lift a massive bridge + the weight of both Rex and Saw while he couldn't just use TK to get them to the other side of that chasm? That's a massive contradiction within even the same scene so your point is just flat out untrue.
I'll respond to the comparison of both their Force augmentation in the last point since that's where you listed your examples. Regarding the importance of it, I - again - disagree with your statement. In Canon we've seen normal, non-force sensitive beings go directly against Jedi or Sith without being severely disadvantaged.
The statements about Ezra's power growth weren't specific at all which makes that there's tons of room for speculation. Anyway, I would definitely agree that Force Augmentation is important under the normal circumstances but given this context extreme inconsistency regarding augmentation (or even Force power in general) I don't see why it should be a major point in this discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XNdaOjev3E. Ezra goes to confront the Nightsister possessed Kanan and asked them to release him on which they reply that he needs to prove he's the stronger one. Kanan attacks Ezra and the latter tries to talk to him until he lashes out with the Force. This convinces the Nightsisters that Ezra's the more powerful host and they release Kanan.
Well of course this isn't season 1 Ahsoka which you probably have realized. Again, I don't see why Force Augmentation in this context would matter, there are too many inconsistencies and examples of 'lesser beings' going toe-to-toe with superior Force users. Nor do I understand the reasoning behind putting so much importance in Ezra's fight with the Trandoshan captain. It's worth as much as Hondo going toe-to-toe with Anakin or Ahsoka despite that he shouldn't be able to give them any trouble. It's a perfect example of a plot driven fight.
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