Uranium One Controversy: Trump, Clinton, Lies, Oh My!

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dadudemon
Watch this video on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/930551622849118208



Watch the whole thing.




And thus ends the false accusations, from Trump, levied against Hillary Clinton, about the US Selling Uranium to Russia: never happened. It's bullshit. Trump lied. Or Trump's people lied.

So the Uranium One "debate" should end.



If we want to pretend any uranium is being sold to to the Russians, then it is on Obama because he would have the most individual power in that "deal."


Also, as some Russian dude said, to grossly paraphrase him: "Why would we need to buy uranium form Americans? We have plenty."

Firefly218

Bashar Teg

Surtur
Lol I saw that, owned.

Robtard
Oh Trumpers...

Firefly218
I wonder if had this report came from a "liberal-leaning" news source, would Trumpers scream FAKE NEWS???

Robtard
Originally posted by Firefly218
I wonder if had this report came from a "liberal-leaning" news source, would Trumpers scream FAKE NEWS???

You don't wonder that at all, you know they would, because you've seen it happen time and time again. If say Rachel Maddow had done this report, Surtur would have posted it in the Triggered thread and insulted her.

Surtur
Originally posted by Firefly218
I wonder if had this report came from a "liberal-leaning" news source, would Trumpers scream FAKE NEWS???

If they want Shep fired over this then probably.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
You don't wonder that at all, you know they would, because you've seen it happen time and time again. If say Rachel Maddow had done this report, Surtur would have posted it in the Triggered thread and insulted her.

I just can't help laughing at the fact you seem to think nobody here has ever dismissed a site because it was right wing lol.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
I just can't help laughing at the fact you seem to think nobody here has ever dismissed a site because it was right wing lol.


Except I didn't say that or anything remotely close to it. So once again you're making up shit arguments, applying it to me and then attacking that. Very weak tactic, imo.

You're also one of the people who made a stink about the 'Uranium Deal', connecting it to Clinton, Obama and Mueller, anyone you felt could make Trump look less shitty in a given situation. So it's pretty funny that you're now trying to back away from that.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Except I didn't say that or anything remotely close to it. So once again you're making up shit arguments, applying it to me and then attacking that. Very weak tactic, imo.

So you agree both sides here pull that tactic, okie dokie.



Quote me backing away from anything.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
So you agree both sides here pull that tactic, okie dokie.

Quote me backing away from anything.

My comment which made you flip didn't touch on that either, once again you're inventing things I didn't say or comment on.

So to be clear, you're still on the uranium conspiracy shady thing? Yes or no.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Firefly218
I wonder if had this report came from a "liberal-leaning" news source, would Trumpers scream FAKE NEWS???

For me, this was the most visceral point of it all: Came from Fox News. smile

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
My comment which made you flip didn't touch on that either, once again you're inventing things I didn't say or comment on.

So then we won't dance around it and we'll see how seriously your original comment should be taken: do you think people on both sides here have done what you described?



I'd seen the story about Shep, but never read any details nor did I watch the video. If DDM is saying it shows proof there is nothing to the scandal I trust him.

There's nothing to back away from though. I'm certainly not going to deny I wanted it investigated. I had zero reason to post in the thread at all if my intention was to distance myself from it.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
For me, this was the most visceral point of it all: Came from Fox News. smile

It does seem like FOX tries to be more balanced than the other big networks, isn't that f*cking weird? I just mean...considering how much the network tends to get shit on.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
So then we won't dance around it and we'll see how seriously your original comment should be taken: do you think people on both sides here have done what you described?

I'd seen the story about Shep, but never read any details nor did I watch the video. If DDM is saying it shows proof there is nothing to the scandal I trust him.

There's nothing to back away from though. I'm certainly not going to deny I wanted it investigated. I had zero reason to post in the thread at all if my intention was to distance myself from it.

My comment has proof though; it's your posting history.

But you didn't want it "just investigated", which is a sensible approach imo, you outright condemned Clinton for it as if it were true sans proof.

Proof:
Originally posted by Surtur
Still loving the people trying to tie Trump to Russia. I mean hey Trump DID sell Russia some uranium and shit, right?

Oh wait, that was Hilary. But no let's just talk about Trumps potential ties to Europe. Deflector shields up!

Originally posted by Surtur
On the other hand if Hilary will lie about..all the shit she has lied about, who is to say she won't lie to us about other stuff too? Like foreign relations? You know..how she conveniently says Trump is in bed with Russia and ignores all her dealings with Russia, like selling them uranium.


Originally posted by Surtur
I dunno, maybe if she becomes president Hilldawg could sell the Russians a lot more uranium than she already has.

Originally posted by Surtur
If Hilary goes to war with Russia I guess she'd need to find someone else to give uranium to.

Originally posted by Surtur
It would be silly for Hilary to go to war with Russia...after she helped them get all that uranium. Silly Hilary.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why would she give Uranium to a country whose leader she didn't have a ton of respect for?

Originally posted by Surtur
If only they'd included a "don't hack us" clause when they sold them uranium.

Originally posted by Surtur
Of course she wants a more positive relationship with Russia. It's hard to sell uranium to someone you have a negative relationship with.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why would she want to provoke them?

I mean okay, pop quiz: do you want to buy uranium from a douchebag? No, you wanna buy your uranium from a decent person. You want to buy your uranium from someone you get along with.

Originally posted by Surtur
Russian did everything possible to get Trump into the White House? Damn, Hilary should have given them a better price on all that uranium then.

There's more, but I think that's more than enough to show how disingenuous you're being now.

snowdragon
Yeah we should let this conversation slide into the Hillary email server thoughsmile

So I can get all #triggered!

Surtur
Rob, I find it remarkable you say I'm being disingenuous.

Most of those are from before this scandal even became a thing. Several of them were said in jest. I mean holy shit:

"If Hilary goes to war with Russia I guess she'd need to find someone else to give uranium to. "

Lol.

So yes, once this scandal was being pushed I wanted it investigated. Anything else?

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
My comment has proof though; it's your posting history.

But you didn't want it "just investigated", which is a sensible approach imo, you outright condemned Clinton for it as if it were true sans proof.

Proof:

...

There's more, but I think that's more than enough to show how disingenuous you're being now.

Damn, dude....that's "pre-2013 dadudemon" levels of dedication to pwning.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Rob, I find it remarkable you say I'm being disingenuous.

Most of those are from before this scandal even became a thing. Several of them were said in jest.

Surtur, it's clear you were certain about the Clinton/Uranium conspiracy, the quotes show that. Be a man and own up to it for once.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
Damn, dude....that's "pre-2013 dadudemon" levels of dedication to pwning.

Lol dude, check the dates on the comments. Plus a decent amount are in jest.

When this story began being pushed, this new information, I wanted it investigated.

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon
Damn, dude....that's "pre-2013 dadudemon" levels of dedication to pwning.

All proper pwnings should be thorough and complete and completely thorough.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Surtur, it's clear you were certain about the Clinton/Uranium conspiracy, the quotes show that. Be a man and own up to it for once.

I did believe it, and when this recent information came out I wanted it investigated.

So no, I wasn't being disingenuous.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
All proper pwnings should be thorough and complete and completely thorough.

Lol but again: this isn't just about Hilary, is what you aren't getting. This new information implicated more than her. It would have implicated the FBI, potentially Obama, etc.

So there is no way saying I wanted those things looked into is being disingenuous, by any stretch of the imagination. I indeed wanted to know if the FBI knew what was being claimed they knew. I feel like someone truly being thorough would have realized why this entire thing was brought into the limelight again: the new info. That's a major detail to miss.

Robtard
Stop being disingenuous already, Surtur. You're clearly wrong and I showed it with proof, you don't have to openly admit it because of your ego, but ffs stop doubling down on the douchery. Thanks in advance.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Stop being disingenuous already, Surtur. You're clearly wrong and I showed it with proof, you don't have to openly admit it because of your ego, but ffs stop doubling down on the douchery. Thanks in advance.

Holy shit, so we're just flat out ignoring reality now? Once again: this story came back into the news again because of *new* information. This was information that implicated entire agencies, like the FBI. It also would have implicated Obama, if true(like DDM said).

So how is it being disingenuous for me to suggest I wanted it investigated? Which I did, I said this. I also even asked you about the story and if you thought Mueller should be removed if true.

I 100% believed something shady went down between Russia and the Clintons. But this recent stuff was beyond just them.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by dadudemon
Watch this video on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/930551622849118208



Watch the whole thing.




And thus ends the false accusations, from Trump, levied against Hillary Clinton, about the US Selling Uranium to Russia: never happened. It's bullshit. Trump lied. Or Trump's people lied.


old news

Surtur
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
old news

Well, as I've been saying, not really. We did have new stuff added to this that would have potentially implicated the FBI, etc.

I'm just pointing out why it was suddenly in the news again.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by dadudemon


If we want to pretend any uranium is being sold to to the Russians, then it is on Obama because he would have the most individual power in that "deal."


Also, as some Russian dude said, to grossly paraphrase him: "Why would we need to buy uranium form Americans? We have plenty."
Blame Obama for what? The oil wasn't exported

Surtur
Rocky, there was new information that came out. Essentially saying the government knew specific Russians they were dealing with were shady,etc. and didn't do anything about it, etc.

I would think that is where DDM is getting Obama as potentially being responsible. The FBI was implicated too.

jaden101
Originally posted by Robtard
My comment has proof though; it's your posting history.

But you didn't want it "just investigated", which is a sensible approach imo, you outright condemned Clinton for it as if it were true sans proof.

Proof:




















There's more, but I think that's more than enough to show how disingenuous you're being now.

laughing laughing Oh dear. That was brutal.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Surtur
It does seem like FOX tries to be more balanced than the other big networks, isn't that f*cking weird? I just mean...considering how much the network tends to get shit on.
Uh, yeah, no, pretty sure Fox News were the ones peddling this, pizzagate, Obama being a muslim, Obama not being American, Obama wiretapping Trump, ect.

They aren't balanced at all.

Surtur
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Uh, yeah, no, pretty sure Fox News were the ones peddling this, pizzagate, Obama being a muslim, Obama not being American, Obama wiretapping Trump, ect.

They aren't balanced at all.

But don't you agree there is a difference between being balanced and being more balanced than the other big networks?

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Robtard
My comment has proof though; it's your posting history.

But you didn't want it "just investigated", which is a sensible approach imo, you outright condemned Clinton for it as if it were true sans proof.

Proof:




There's more, but I think that's more than enough to show how disingenuous you're being now.

laughing out loud

oh surt :')

Surtur
Lol, so facts aren't even going to matter here? Gotcha.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Surtur
But don't you agree there is a difference between being balanced and being more balanced than the other big networks?
They're not more balanced. Even MSNBC hasn't done sh!t as bad as falsely peddling the opposing paty's president was a non american, and MSNBC's literal purpose is to be the democratic counterpart of fox news.

MSNBC does not actively peddle obviously nonsense conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and unlike Fox, MSNBC usually corrects itself when it's wrong.

But leave it to Fox News to b!tch about mainstream media lying when they're literally the most mainstream of media and among the most dishonest.

Surtur
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
They're not more balanced. Even MSNBC hasn't done sh!t as bad as falsely peddling the opposing paty's president was a non american, and MSNBC's literal purpose is to be the democratic counterpart of fox news.

MSNBC does not actively peddle obviously nonsense conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and unlike Fox, MSNBC usually corrects itself when it's wrong.

But leave it to Fox News to b!tch about mainstream media lying when they're literally the most mainstream of media and among the most dishonest.

Wrong. Rachel Maddow literally peddled a bullshit theory just recently about the Niger attack and why it happened. She then defended it after experts called it out as bullshit.

And all these places peddled the "17 intelligence agencies agree Russia hacked us" and corrected it months after it was known to be bullshit and only after those 3 people at CNN had to leave because they f*cked up another Russian story.

Lawrence O'Donnel peddled a bullshit theory about Russia with NO EVIDENCE at all.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Surtur


And all these places peddled the "17 intelligence agencies agree Russia hacked us" and corrected it months after it was known to be bullshit and only after those 3 people at CNN had to leave because they f*cked up another Russian story.

They corrected that and admitted they made a mistake(and the mistake wasn't with "Russia hacked us" but the number of agencies that said they did).


Fox, on the other hand...
https://twitter.com/DonnaWR8/status/930810256942403585
Doubled down after their own anchor called them out on their bullsh!t.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Blame Obama for what? The oil wasn't exported


"uranium"

"oil"



How many marijuanas have you been freebasing?

quanchi112
Surtur looks pathetic again.

Surtur
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
They corrected that and admitted they made a mistake(and the mistake wasn't with "Russia hacked us" but the number of agencies that said they did).


Fox, on the other hand...
https://twitter.com/DonnaWR8/status/930810256942403585
Doubled down after their own anchor called them out on their bullsh!t.

Okay, but you ignored my point about that. They did not correct it as soon as the information it was bullshit became available. Various media outlets only did so after people at CNN had been forced to resign over another bullshit story back in June.

And why did you ignore Rachel Maddow doubling down on her BS theory about Niger? Or Lawrence O'Donnel peddling theories that had no more evidence than pizzagate?

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, but you ignored my point about that. They did not correct it as soon as the information it was bullshit became available. Various media outlets only did so after people at CNN had been forced to resign over another bullshit story back in June.

I didn't ignore anything,, but you're trying to assert Fox is better than the other major news networks. However other major news networks correct their bullsh!t eventually, Fox doubles down on it.
Originally posted by Surtur
And why did you ignore Rachel Maddow doubling down on her BS theory about Niger? Or Lawrence O'Donnel peddling theories that had no more evidence than pizzagate?
I have no clue what you're talking about and would need to actually see the coverage before I took your word for it.

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