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SPC is the only one here who can contend with Gohan... The others are fodderish.

That said, as long as Gohan digs deep and unlocks his full rage/power, he should win.

Bojack might be fodder, but one spit from Dabura and the fight could end.

The team for sure.

Team stomps

Ssj2 trunks had to cheat to beat dabura and who knows if gohan was stronger but he's definitely not a better fighter he won't do the ki shield he'll definitely get hit by spit

Cell is too smart him and dabura alone would eat gohan alive bojack is overkill

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The team for sure.

Cohan would crush them. If he fought serious he nearly one shot each of them.

Could lose from spit if careless I guess

The only way Gohan is losing here is from Dabura's spit, and that would maybe account for 1/10 wins for the team.

Gohan is stronger than everyone else on here, including SPC, who is MUCH stronger than Bojack and Dabura. Gohan one-shot Bojack, and Dabura was Perfect Cell level, not SPC level.

Gohan wins 9/10, the team wins 1/10 due to Dabura's spit.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Gohan one-shot Bojack

He didn't.

Lol. Two shot. Punched a hole in his stomach then shot and killed him with a Kamehameha.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He didn't.

Oh, my bad rolleyes1

Two shot him, with ease.

The point is that Bojack might as well be a Cell Jr. He can't help against SSJ2 Gohan.

I see it going kind of like this:

ABXSwsnlmPc



As with Cell, Piccolo, and *lol* Krillin, Gohan's arrogance will be his downfall.

Ssj2 trunks needed help to beat dabura...he can't be that much weaker than cell


Either way gohan is not all that great in combat he will get caught in some trickery

Don't know why some of you guys are acting like Dabra's spit is the deciding factor here..?

I mean, it didn't give Dabra any sort of advantage against Boo-era Gohan, after all, so why would it give him the edge against a FAR more powerful version of Gohan? As long as he's at least mindful of his surroundings, the spit would NEVER touch him.

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't know why some of you guys are acting like Dabra's spit is the deciding factor here..?

I mean, it didn't give Dabra any sort of advantage against Boo-era Gohan, after all, so why would it give him the edge against a FAR more powerful version of Gohan? As long as he's at least mindful of his surroundings, the spit would NEVER touch him.

Sure, but Gothan's also an idiot.

That seemed the whole point of his spar with Piccolo. Even when he has the upper hand, he manages to pull defeat from victory. It's a part of his character, a built in blind spot.

^ Not so much of an 'idiot' that I'm convinced Dabra's spit-trick would be the end-all/be-all. Again: it *didn't* give Dabra the advantage on a weaker version of Gohan... Why would it all of the sudden be effective on the MUCH more powerful(and battle-savvy) iteration?

...Especially when Gohan has the power to own him rather casually. /shrug

The Darbura fight was never concluded.

The thing is, Gohan doesn't have the will to finish a fight.

You're right about it not being stupidity (Though I still call him stupid ), but he lacks the killer instinct necessary for ending a fight. Either he plays around too much, or he stops short of a finishing blow.

The movie against Bojack was an exception.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Lol. Two shot. Punched a hole in his stomach then shot and killed him with a Kamehameha.

Actually, you're not exactly right either.

Bojack's death scene was weird, as they both fired beams and... charged at each other, for some reason Only then Bojack starts disintegrating, after they collide.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Oh, my bad rolleyes1

Two shot him, with ease.

The point is that Bojack might as well be a Cell Jr. He can't help against SSJ2 Gohan.

SPC lost to Gohan who was at 50% of his power according to his words, lol.

So im the only one who read dabura vs ssj2 trunks?

Trunks had helpnand barely edged dabura and he's a more competent fighter than gohan. I highly doubt that washed up older gohan was gonna beat dabura

And Trunks had that upgraded SSJ2 form, didn't he? Or he unlocked it afterwards?

Anyway, not sure it counts - I mean, technically it was an alternate future version of Dabura...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Trunks had that upgraded SSJ2 form, didn't he? Or he unlocked it afterwards?

Anyway, not sure it counts - I mean, technically it was an alternate future version of Dabura...

Completely forgot about that scene.

Manga, I assume? Since he never really goes SSJ2 in the anime.

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't know why some of you guys are acting like Dabra's spit is the deciding factor here..?

I mean, it didn't give Dabra any sort of advantage against Boo-era Gohan, after all, so why would it give him the edge against a FAR more powerful version of Gohan? As long as he's at least mindful of his surroundings, the spit would NEVER touch him.

Because it's 3 on 1?

And seeing as how he only survived it because it conveniently hit his glove last time, it's hardly unthinkable that it would touch him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Trunks had that upgraded SSJ2 form, didn't he? Or he unlocked it afterwards? Future Trunks stomped future Dabra easily after he went SSJ2:
https://i.imgur.com/IgvQUJb.png
https://i.imgur.com/aVWYy0k.png
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Anyway, not sure it counts - I mean, technically it was an alternate future version of Dabura... Exactly.

That was an ALTERNATE timeline, and therefore an ALTERNATE version of Dabra. And we know, for a fact, that all things are NOT created equal in future Trunks' timeline.

For starters, Androids #17 and #18 were FAR stronger in the mainstream timeline than they were in Trunks' timeline:
https://i.imgur.com/lJeg8vC.jpg

And there are other differences as well -- like in future Trunks' timeline, Androids #16, #19, and #20 didn't even exist:
https://i.imgur.com/Zabuv0h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SAKFiD7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OzfrnqY.jpg


IOW, ABC logic doesn't exactly work here...

Originally posted by Damborgson
Because it's 3 on 1? It doesn't work that way in DBZ. It could be 100 on 1 -- numbers count for nothing if you're significantly weaker than your opponent.

Looking back at it now, can't think of a reason why Cell never used Kaioken, other than the writers forgetting it existed at that point. Initially, the consensus was that it became obsolete once someone reached SSJ level of power, but turns out it wasn't used by Goku anymore because it would've been too much strain on top of his SSJ forms, up until Blue at least where he got better ki control.

Okay, but Cell didn't really have that excuse for not ever using it, especially when he went for broke and used that power weighted form Trunks used at the expense of his speed, when he would've been better off using Kaioken despite the stamina risk. smh

SPC Kaioken on top of that would've been phenomenal at the time. I hate Dragon Ball's writing sometimes, not just with Super.

Only read it once when the scans leaked but I remember trunks only killed dabura once Shin interfered

And trunks used a ki shield for the spit something gohan didn't have

No reason to assume dabura was different or that 16 age 20 didn't exist, the zfighters expecting the androids made all that play out differently but besides all that unless gohan can one shot all 3 I don't see him pulling the majority, goku
Or vegeta? Yeah but gohan trash

Originally posted by Galan007
It doesn't work that way in DBZ. It could be 100 on 1 -- numbers count for nothing if you're significantly weaker than your opponent.

And the group includes SPC , who is close enough to make a difference,

Spit landing on Gohan is easily possible. Especially with Dabura liking to get up close and personal.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Looking back at it now, can't think of a reason why Cell never used Kaioken, other than the writers forgetting it existed at that point. Initially, the consensus was that it became obsolete once someone reached SSJ level of power, but turns out it wasn't used by Goku anymore because it would've been too much strain on top of his SSJ forms, up until Blue at least where he got better ki control.

Okay, but Cell didn't really have that excuse for not ever using it, especially when he went for broke and used that power weighted form Trunks used at the expense of his speed, when he would've been better off using Kaioken despite the stamina risk. smh

SPC Kaioken on top of that would've been phenomenal at the time. I hate Dragon Ball's writing sometimes, not just with Super. Yeah, I'm with you there: writers did NOT want to start stacking power-multipliers at the time. After all, KK multipliers would have skyrocketed these characters into levels of power beyond what even SSJ transformations were capable of.

Hell, even if SPC were only able to use KK x4, it would have still put him on par with SSJ3-levels of power. Can you imagine him using KK x10... or better yet, KK x20..?

F*ck.Me.

Originally posted by TheBadguy
Only read it once when the scans leaked but I remember trunks only killed dabura once Shin interfered

And trunks used a ki shield for the spit something gohan didn't have

No reason to assume dabura was different or that 16 age 20 didn't exist, the zfighters expecting the androids made all that play out differently but besides all that unless gohan can one shot all 3 I don't see him pulling the majority, goku
Or vegeta? Yeah but gohan trash As evident by the scans I posted, SSJ2 Trunks did NOT 'need' Shin to interfere. He was utterly destroying Dabra with minimal effort beforehand. Shin simply used his 'freeze' technique to minimize the energy expenditure on the field so that Trunks could one-shot Dabra in the very next frame, instead of prolonging the battle any further. Remember, they were trying to prevent Boo from hatching in that flashback scene, and the absorption of ambient energy(ala Babidi's Majin-minions) is what freed him. The longer their battle lasted, the more likely/imminent Boo's hatching became... And if Boo were released, future Trunks and his timeline were f*cked.

No need to make excuses, lol. Alternate timelines = alternate characters. Unless otherwise specified by the thread starter/OP, they are NOT interchangeable by any stretch of the imagination. srsly


Originally posted by Damborgson
And the group includes SPC , who is close enough to make a difference,

Spit landing on Gohan is easily possible. Especially with Dabura liking to get up close and personal. SPC being close to SSJ2 Gohan's level is a matter of opinion, tbh. Personally, I think Gohan was still substantially more powerful. /shrug

As for the others, it's like I said: they're not powerful enough to make a difference here, as they are both at/around Perfect Cell-level... A serious Gohan could likely two-shot each of them with physical attacks; or one-shot each of them with ki blasts.

Originally posted by Damborgson
And the group includes SPC , who

Got beat by SS2 Gohan operating at 50%.

That'd make him the weakest of the group, according to Galan's mathematics biscuits

Lol. It goes without saying that Gohan dug extra deep when he released the final Kamehameha that killed SPC... That said, the fact that Gohan was still able to achieve power of that magnitude IS quite staggering, given how injured/weakened he was.

And it is also worth noting that Gohan had been intentionally holding back during the beam-lock beforehand, because he was worried about destroying the earth:
https://i.imgur.com/th73tkv.jpg

Gohan wasn't gonna win that without vegeta cheating

Your move lmao

Bringing up SPC being stunned by a blast from an EXHAUSTED, BASE-level Vegeta, doesn't exactly help your case.

...Just saying.

Anime scene made much more sense.

Anime scene was so much better. And utterly epic.

Oh, by far.

Might even be my favorite scene in the anime, period.