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I do have issues with this gender identity epidemic...

Is it just me or is the scale of it backed by very little Science.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I do have issues with this gender identity epidemic...

Is it just me or is the scale of it backed by very little Science.

You can identify as whatever you want. Just don't expect people to identify you as anything beyond how you physically present yourself.

More specifically - because I dislike clever little sayings that are ambiguous but don't actually saying anything specific - I will not identify you as Wolfkin if you are not in full Furry getup. I will just call your sir/he/him or ma'am/she/her.

I'm okay with getting identify-creative. And I have enough respect for people around me to refer to people the way they prefer if I think they provide something good or valuable to me or the people I care about (such as friendship or intellectual conversation).

By liberal you mean leftist, because actual liberalism and socialism are mutually exclusive ideologies.

Despite the way people make use of the term, liberalism is not synonymous left-wing.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
By liberal you mean leftist, because actual liberalism and socialism are mutually exclusive ideologies.

Despite the way people make use of the term, liberalism is not synonymous left-wing. Haha silly rabbit with your social media meaningless "leftisit" hashtag. In the UK liberal is a distinct political group that even had a liberal party the left wing border of it and the right wing border of Labour a socialist party has always had a fluid boundary. But you knew that... right?

Originally posted by dadudemon
You can identify as whatever you want. Just don't expect people to identify you as anything beyond how you physically present yourself.

More specifically - because I dislike clever little sayings that are ambiguous but don't actually saying anything specific - I will no identify you as Wolfkin if you are not in full Furry getup. I will just call your sir/he/him or ma'am/she/her.

I'm okay with getting identify-creative. And I have enough respect for people around me to refer to people the way they prefer if I think they provide something good or valuable to me or the people I care about (such as friendship or intellectual conversation). But how do you feel about minors being able to identify however they want not based on Biology, but based on an agenda driven fashion... Which this may or may not be.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Haha silly rabbit with your social media meaningless "leftisit" hashtag.
I'm not using leftist as a pejorative, I'm saying being left-wing doesn't automatically make you a liberal.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
But how do you feel about minors being able to identify however they want not based on Biology, but based on an agenda driven fashion... Which this may or may not be.

My answer is the same no matter the age.

Originally posted by dadudemon
My answer is the same no matter the age. So you would be against the age of consent?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
So you would be against the age of consent?

Explain to me how those are the same.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Explain to me how those are the same.

Surely choosing your gender is based on your sexuality.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Surely choosing your gender is based on your sexuality.

I'm open to changing my mind if you can provide scholarly articles on this.

But I highly doubt you're correct.

My take is that the concept of "gender identity" was a retarded mistake. What we should do is live in a society where people are identified as male or female based on their biology, but are at perfect liberty to act or dress or present themselves in ways that define traditional gender roles.

It's much easier to argue "I'm not going to let you force me to view and refer to your identity a certain way" than it is to say "I'm not going to let you dress, behave, and present yourself how you want to."

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm open to changing my mind if you can provide scholarly articles on this.

But I highly doubt you're correct.

I would doubt any studies have been done however. You are saying you don't see gender/sex being linked inherently to sexuality. So what is the biological purpose of gender?

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I would doubt any studies have been done however. You are saying you don't see gender/sex being linked inherently to sexuality. So what is the biological purpose of gender?

These are questions you need to answer, not me.

I feel they are irrelevant to my position of allowing others to identify however they wish. Therefore, they are not appropriate for me to answer. They are non sequitur to my position.

It's like asking me why I lock my door at night when watermelon tastes good. Doesn't make any sense at all.

"You think children can be sexualized by adults if you think they can identify by any gender they choose."

Originally posted by dadudemon
These are questions you need to answer, not me.

I don't want to answer them because I feel they are irrelevant to my position of allowing others to identify however they wish. The biological function of gender is clear, the mixing of gametes for variation. It confers many advantages to asexual propagation.

So I'll ask again, do you see Gender as not linked to sexuality and propagation.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
The biological function of gender is clear, the mixing of gametes for variation. It confers many advantages to asexual propagation.

So I'll ask again, do you see Gender as not linked to sexuality and propagation.

Originally posted by dadudemon
These are questions you need to answer, not me.

I feel they are irrelevant to my position of allowing others to identify however they wish. Therefore, they are not appropriate for me to answer. They are non sequitur to my position.

It's like asking me why I lock my door at night when watermelon tastes good. Doesn't make any sense at all.

"You think children can be sexualized by adults if you think they can identify by any gender they choose."

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
So I'll ask again, do you see Gender as not linked to sexuality and propagation.

Define gender.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nothing to see here When we get to unquotable posting... It usually means impasse. Come back when you can show me Gender and Sexuality are not linked, I'm sure lots of credible sources will back this position of yours up... However that is what many are buying into.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
When we get to unquotable posting... It usually means impasse. Come back when you can show me Gender and Sexuality are not linked, I'm sure lots of credible sources will back this position of yours up... However that is what many are buying into.

My position?

When did I take that position?


But I do believe you took the positive position:



Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Surely choosing your gender is based on your sexuality.

You get backed to me when you can prove that sexuality and gender are the same (based on each other, whatever...play your word games with someone else).

Find me some scholarly articles for it.

Get back to me when you have a good point.

Address my points, first, however, before you descend down a point that is irrelevant to my position, first. Start there. Then, if you've worked the conversation into something satisfactory, we can start a new thread, which is independent of this thread topic, to discuss your idea of gender and sexuality.


First, start with defining what gender is in the context you are using it. Start there before moving on to anything else.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Define gender. From a biological or cultural point of view. Because biologically it is interchangeable with sex. Culturally it can be more fluid. So you are saying Children are free to choose their Gender in either context? And I have been coming in here from both a biological and cultural standpoint as unlike some proponents of "Gender studies". I do not believe children are adequately informed to choose a sex beyond there biology. Clearly you do from your first post. and hat's more this child's choice must be respected.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
From a biological or cultural point of view. Because biologically it is interchangeable with sex. Culturally it can be more fluid. So you are saying Children are free to choose their Gender in either context?

Not my problem. You're using the word gender. You define how you're using it. You do not get to ask me to define it. lol

Originally posted by dadudemon
Not my problem. You're using the word gender. You define how you're using it. You do not get to ask me to define it. lol See edit. lol

Gender is binary.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I do not believe children are adequately informed to choose a sex beyond there biology. Clearly you do from your first post. and hat's more this child's choice must be respected.

Define how you're using the word "sex."

Define how you're using the word "gender."

Start from there and then we can actually have a discussion. If you refuse to even define how you use these words, then a discussion is meaningless.

Underage children should not be allowed to get surgery to mutilate their bodies, or take hormones and shit that **** with their biological and psychological development.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Define how you're using the word "sex."

Define how you're using the word "gender."

Start from there and then we can actually have a discussion. If you refuse to even define how you use these words, then a discussion is meaningless.

Already defined sex a page ago, natural transmission of gametes via a plug and socket system in humans.

Although I could define it by Testosterone/Oestrogen concentrations in the blood and a few other methods.

But nowhere could I define it as a media propagated fashion.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Underage children should not be allowed to get surgery to mutilate their bodies, or take hormones and shit that **** with their biological and psychological development.

For once we agree. The world will end!

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Already defined sex a page ago, natural transmission of gametes via a plug and socket system in humans.

So the next time I go to fill out my forms at a doctor's office, on the section where it asks for sex, I'll put down, "natural transmission of gametes via a plug and socket system in humans"?

Gotcha.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Although I could define it by Testosterone/Oestrogen concentrations in the blood and a few other methods.

But nowhere could I define it as a media propagated fashion.

So, in the context that you used the words "sex" and "gender" in the follow post, what are your definitions:



Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I do not believe children are adequately informed to choose a sex beyond there biology. Clearly you do from your first post. and hat's more this child's choice must be respected.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Underage children should not be allowed to get surgery to mutilate their bodies, or take hormones and shit that **** with their biological and psychological development.

Who in this thread said that they should?


Rather, I should ask, who are you responding to?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Who in this thread said that they should?


Rather, I should ask, who are you responding to?
Oh I'm just asserting that preemptively because it's not all that uncommon for people to support giving children hormones and shit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Who in this thread said that they should?


Rather, I should ask, who are you responding to?

By implication you when you said, you didn't see age as an issue.

This Gender epidemic like all fashions is prevalent with kids pal, I get this tacitly endorsed, propaganda driven self abuse, is not traditional child abuse, but it is child abuse. I also think that many adults buying into this are possibly mentally ill but that is only my personal opinion.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Oh I'm just asserting that preemptively because it's not all that uncommon for people to support giving children hormones and shit.

Good, because I've stated, pretty much, the same thing to Surtur, as well. I'm hesitant to allow a kid to let themselves potentially mutilate themselves.

Identify as what you want, but you do not ever try to dictate others indulge in your fantasy.

And if anyone thinks its okay for children to be transgender, check yourself into an asylum.

Originally posted by Surtur
Identify as what you want, but you do not ever try to dictate others indulge in your fantasy.

And if anyone thinks its okay for children to be transgender, check yourself into an asylum. Wtf, I am in agreement with Surtur also. The world truly is at an end.

We live in an era now where playing a clip by Jordan Peterson is considered transphobic and compared to *neutrally playing a Hitler speech*.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Good, because I've stated, pretty much, the same thing to Surtur, as well. I'm hesitant to allow a kid to let themselves potentially mutilate themselves.
Yeah I'm not accusing you of anything.

Originally posted by Surtur
We live in an era now where playing a clip by Jordan Peterson is considered transphobic and compared to *neutrally playing a Hitler speech*. A teacher at a "girls" school in the UK recently got told off for calling the girls in his class "girls" because one thirteen year old identified as a boy. Hang on what was the type of school he was teaching at again? He was suspended and had to write an apology letter to the kid and her family.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I do have issues with this gender identity epidemic...

Is it just me or is the scale of it backed by very little Science.



Required reading if you're interested in queer politics:


http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

Originally posted by cdtm
Required reading if you're interested in queer politics:


http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

I'm not mate, I don't care how adults describe themselves. But I will read it on your recommendation.

IDK maybe the SJWs are secret champions of humanity. Maybe they know something we don't, like evil aliens are observing us.

This is the "mad man theory" on a larger scale. We need to convince these evil aliens that every night before we go to sleep we remove our brains from our skulls and soak them in a vat of bath salts for 8 hours. They won't ever dare cross us. We have nuclear bombs and get into hissy fits over who pisses in what bathroom. FEAR US.

Oh and fining someone even a single cent for using the wrong pronoun is unacceptable.

I've said it before... I believe in negotiation. So I won't insist on just two genders. But I do think we should be able to settle on 5. Anything more than 5 seems a bit much.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I've said it before... I believe in negotiation. So I won't insist on just two genders. But I do think we should be able to settle on 5. Anything more than 5 seems a bit much.

Later today you and I will be negotiating what 2+2 equals. Surely you won't insist on just one answer.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Gender is binary.

Textbook genderism.

People can act or dress however the **** they want, I'm not gonna be a dick just to be a dick, and I'll even refer to them with the pronouns of their opposite sex if they ask. I will not however become a mouthpiece for language I detest with this "xe zir zippitybop" nonsense

Originally posted by Emperordmb
People can act or dress however the **** they want, I'm not gonna be a dick just to be a dick, and I'll even refer to them with the pronouns of their opposite sex if they ask. I will not however become a mouthpiece for language I detest with this "xe zir zippitybop" nonsense

If they call me "King" I will call them whatever pronoun they want.

Actually scratch that, nope. Calling me king isn't enough. I need to be treated like the thing I believe I am. So bow and courtsy when greeting me, depending on which gender you identify as. If they don't like it? They don't care bout muh feelings.

Sir will do just fine.

Anyways, Steve you do know saying the things you have said about transgender issues more or less makes you an apostate, right? Or at least it would here.

I wonder how you feel about the UK equivalent of the girl scouts now allowing boys who identify as girls to join and shower and change with the other girls? I just heard that announced lol. The reason given is that it could cause "anxiety" if this was not allowed.

That I can genuinely believe, mental illness tends to cause anxiety.

Originally posted by Surtur
Later today you and I will be negotiating what 2+2 equals. Surely you won't insist on just one answer. right but I feel this is a less straight forward question than 2+2

Originally posted by Emperordmb
By liberal you mean leftist, because actual liberalism and socialism are mutually exclusive ideologies.

Despite the way people make use of the term, liberalism is not synonymous left-wing. ma labels!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Who in this thread said that they should?https://i.imgur.com/8HVtd8c.jpg

I believe in giving adolescents hormones and shit, because it can prevent threatening trauma.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I would doubt any studies have been done however. You are saying you don't see gender/sex being linked inherently to sexuality. So what is the biological purpose of gender? it's hard for me to understand exactly what you mean by the terms sex, gender, and sexuality. You seem to use gender and sex somewhat interchangeably.

The way I understand it, sex is genetic. Gender is a description of certain personality attributes that are typically associated with one sex or the other. Sexuality is who you are attracted to. So the relationship between sex and gender is relatively straight forward. But sexuality is a bit harder to say.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
it's hard for me to understand exactly what you mean by the terms sex, gender, and sexuality. You seem to use gender and sex somewhat interchangeably.

The way I understand it, sex is genetic. Gender is a description of certain personality attributes that are typically associated with one sex or the other. Sexuality is who you are attracted to. So the relationship between sex and gender is relatively straight forward. But sexuality is a bit harder to say.

I do see some trans people say gender is a social construct. To which okay...what is the point of surgery then?

Followup: if gender is a social construct why is something like...having a first female president, something to be celebrated?

Originally posted by Surtur
I do see some trans people say gender is a social construct. To which okay...what is the point of surgery then?

Some transgender people are also transsexual.




Originally posted by Surtur
Followup: if gender is a social construct why is something like...having a first female president, something to be celebrated?

For the same reason race is important, even though it is also a social construct. It may not be "real" in a biological sense, but it is still a system in which people are heavily invested. And the belief of people in the system has consequences for people whether they accept that it is "real" or not.

I want a woman democrat and a democrat who is a man who is mentally ill and believes he is a woman to both try to get the democrat nomination for president lol. That would be mildly amusing.

A cisgender woman and a transgender woman running for public office. So funny.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A cisgender woman and a transgender woman running for public office. So funny.

A mentally ill man and a normal woman, yes funny.

Originally posted by Surtur
A mentally ill man and a normal woman, yes funny.

You're afraid to have sex with women, because one might be transgender. We get it.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You're afraid to have sex with women, because one might be transgender. We get it.

Your posts show you don't get much of anything though.

You seem triggered. Why? Bad day? Boyfriend leave you?

Originally posted by Surtur
Your posts show you don't get much of anything though.

You seem triggered. Why? Bad day? Boyfriend leave you?

You are concerned about whether the sex of other people matches their gender presentation, but everyone else is triggered.

http://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/jlawyeahokay.gif

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You are concerned about whether the sex of other people matches their gender presentation, but everyone else is triggered.

http://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/jlawyeahokay.gif

Nah, just not going to tolerate imbeciles dictating the words I use, etc.

Call yourself a woman if you're a man, if you want. But don't pretend you aren't mentally ill and don't demand others adhere to your delusions.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nah, just not going to tolerate imbeciles dictating the words I use, etc.

Call yourself a woman if you're a man, if you want. But don't pretend you aren't mentally ill and don't demand others adhere to your delusions.

How do you determine the gender of the people you meet? Do you insist on inspecting their genitals? How do you know the person you accept as a woman on the basis of her appearance is female? How do you know that you are not inadvertently adhering to her "delusions?"

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How do you determine the gender of the people you meet? Do you insist on inspecting their genitals? How do you know the person you accept as a woman on the basis of her appearance is female? How do you know that you are not inadvertently adhering to her "delusions?"

I demand a copy of their birth certificate at gun point.

Can you tell which, if any, are female just by looking at them?

http://www.nikkietutorials.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/RuPaulCourtney.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/f3/58/a6f3581b10f30b5b84ddf4cfd3039f88.jpg

https://251d2191a60056d6ba74-1671eccf3a0275494885881efb0852a4.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/8543182_schon-30--iggy-azalea-by-jacques-dequeker_t72354900.jpg

And I certainly can't help inadvertently adhering to delusions. I sure as hell won't knowingly do it though. You have a dick, but wanna call yourself a girl? Neat, don't insist others partake in your fantasy. Or hell, you can ask. Just don't whine if they decline.

Hey that rhymes: don't whine if they decline. Remember that motto.

In other words, you have no idea the sex of the people you interact with day-to-day. You accept the gender they present themselves as without corroboration. That being the case, purposely misgendering people does not make you a strict adherent to reality, it makes you an *******.

People tend to react a lot different in real life then you get online.. Not because they're disgenuine, but because online tends to be about pissing contests/digging in.

And to be fair to Surt, he gets piled on a lot.

By way of example, a close friend from middle school defriended people (irl) for making bigoted comments like "trailor trash" (He used to live in a park), or racist comments. Yet, when he opted out of a party and I asked him why, he told me "This friend of a friend.. Well, he's gay."

I didn't judge him for it, I have a gay cousin and worked under newscaster who told me he's gay. Took in it, shrugged, and we're still friends.

Point is, I bet if Surt meets a trans, he won't act anything like he's implying here, and if anything right now is lashing out at a percieved "PC or die!" hostile crowd.

Just my opinion..

That guy sounds like a bit of a d*ck.

Again, I'll let someone pick he or she. Xe, zir, zippitybop, xhe, heli, ~!2/, and all those other made up bullshit words I will never use to refer to someone. I will not be made a mouthpiece for language I do not agree with.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'll let someone pick he or she. such generosity.

People are not entitled to have me refer to them however they want me to refer to them.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
People are not entitled to have me refer to them however they want me to refer to them.

I sexually identify as your lord and savior, and I demand to be addressed as such. hmph

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I sexually identify as your lord and savior, and I demand to be addressed as such. hmph
Are you willing to transition though? You have to fully transition and have yourself nailed to a cross before I'm willing to address you as such.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Can you tell which, if any, are female just by looking at them?

http://www.nikkietutorials.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/RuPaulCourtney.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/f3/58/a6f3581b10f30b5b84ddf4cfd3039f88.jpg

https://251d2191a60056d6ba74-1671eccf3a0275494885881efb0852a4.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/8543182_schon-30--iggy-azalea-by-jacques-dequeker_t72354900.jpg




Do you have any Pre Air Brush Copies of those pics?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Again, I'll let someone pick he or she. Xe, zir, zippitybop, xhe, heli, ~!2/, and all those other made up bullshit words I will never use to refer to someone. I will not be made a mouthpiece for language I do not agree with.

Indeed, if someone wants to refer to themselves as a she when they are really a he...I don't want them to be unable to do that.

Earlier I made a sarcastic comment about how I believe I'm a king and thus I am to be treated like one because my feelings say I am royalty. A person is definitely free to refer to themselves as king all they want, but that doesn't mean we all have to start bowing down.

And essentially some people do seem to feel that threats and/or violence are acceptable if you don't go along with the transgender people. Look at this clip with Ben Shapiro and a transgender named Zoey Tur:

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I have to say I find it funny how at one point Dr. Drew acts like award ceremonies aren't that big of a deal, they are just about "attracting eyes", etc. and most everybody claps over that. Lol...I would not be surprised if some of the people who clapped over that are the same people who complained about the oscars being "too white". Imagine if someone had come out and said "Being all white is no big deal, it's just to get ratings" lol.

But yeah so at the end that guy grabs and threatens Ben. Ben isn't a very big guy and the other guy was much larger. After it happens Ben points out how wrong it was that the guy just did that and you can *immediately* see other people on the panel begin to make excuses for what the guy just did. "You were rude" is what one says. So being rude makes threats of violence okay? Lol...just think for a second if, during a debate that was being recorded and put online, a conservative had grabbed a transgender person and made threatening remarks to them. That person would be out of a job lol.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Can you tell which, if any, are female just by looking at them?

http://www.nikkietutorials.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/RuPaulCourtney.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/f3/58/a6f3581b10f30b5b84ddf4cfd3039f88.jpg

https://251d2191a60056d6ba74-1671eccf3a0275494885881efb0852a4.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/8543182_schon-30--iggy-azalea-by-jacques-dequeker_t72354900.jpg

I'll take a crack at it.

Not confident about the first one, but I'll go with male; something about the face. I'm 99% positive that the second is a male, and that the third is a female, though. That being said, I probably wouldn't suspect any of the three if I wasn't tipped off that they might be trans.

...but how'd I do?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
People are not entitled to have me refer to them however they want me to refer to them. no, so just dictate to them instead.

To elaborate, DMB, It seems obvious to me from your comments in this thread (i.e. "gender is binary" & "I'll let them choose he or she" that you are unaccepting of anybody that strays outside of your narrow definition of gender, regardless of whether they compel you to use their pronouns, choosing to belittle and ridicule them instead.

In other words, you're a bigot.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
no, so just dictate to them instead.

Um, he isn't saying they can't refer to themselves as whatever they want. What is being said is they cannot dictate what he says. That is not him dictating them. If he was he would say they can't claim they are female if they have a dick.

Which is how it should be. You can identify as whatever you want. You do not get to guilt the rest of us into joining your delusions.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
To elaborate, DMB, It seems obvious to me from your comments in this thread (i.e. "gender is binary" & "I'll let them choose he or she" that you are unaccepting of anybody that strays outside of your narrow definition of gender, regardless of whether they compel you to use their pronouns, choosing to belittle and ridicule them instead.

In other words, you're a bigot.

I'm guessing he is such a bigot he probably wouldn't even indulge this wackjobs fantasies either:

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Man, can you believe all the bigots in the comment section of that video?

"Back in the good old days, you'd call this man insane and throw him in a psychiatric ward." Wow, what a f*cking bigot this commenter is. Wrong think alert, wrong think alert.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm guessing he is such a bigot he probably wouldn't even indulge this wackjobs fantasies either:

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Man, can you believe all the bigots in the comment section of that video?

"Back in the good old days, you'd call this man insane and throw him in a psychiatric ward." Wow, what a f*cking bigot this commenter is. Wrong think alert, wrong think alert. Sounds like a POS shit yeah, you're point?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sounds like a POS shit yeah, you're point?

Just to be clear, you are saying the guy who said that a man pretending he is a 6 yr. old girl would be called insane...is a POS?

Surely I am wrong and you meant the grown man saying he is a 6 yr. old girl was the piece of shit...I hope that is the case.

Suggesting this person should have their liberty taken away from them and thrown in a psychiatric ward when they are happy, healthy and working makes him a pos yeah.

Now get mad. :'(

Here's two articles showing that it's a biological phenomenon:

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/5/2034/2660626

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

Originally posted by Surtur
Just to be clear, you are saying the guy who said that a man pretending he is a 6 yr. old girl would be called insane...is a POS?

Surely I am wrong and you meant the grown man saying he is a 6 yr. old girl was the piece of shit...I hope that is the case.
What makes the guy a piece of shit is not his bizarre fantasies, but that he ditched his own children and responsibilities to live out those fantasies.

But would someone be a piece for not indulging his weird fantasies and treating him as a little girl?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
But would someone be a piece for not indulging his weird fantasies and treating him as a little girl?
Not in my eyes.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
But would someone be a piece for not indulging his weird fantasies and treating him as a little girl?

They would be lol. These are grown ass adults humoring this man child.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Here's two articles showing that it's a biological phenomenon:

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/5/2034/2660626

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

Lol but...gender is a social construct, remember?

Actually, the answer to this next question should tell me more or less all I need to know. So the guy identifies as a 6 yr. old female. Cool.

I want to see how far the delusion will be taken. Tomorrow he commits a serious crime. Is he charged as an adult or a minor?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Suggesting this person should have their liberty taken away from them and thrown in a psychiatric ward when they are happy, healthy and working makes him a pos yeah.

Now get mad. :'(

Agreed. Let the man work and pay taxes as long as he isn't harming anyone.

Wait...woman? I don't remember. Was he just a cross-dresser?


Anyway, yes, I want those delicious taxes. Don't lock anyone up who is a net benefit to society and does not harm anyone.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Agreed. Let the man work and pay taxes as long as he isn't harming anyone.

Wait...woman? I don't remember. Was he just a cross-dresser?


Anyway, yes, I want those delicious taxes. Don't lock anyone up who is a net benefit to society and does not harm anyone.

He's a grown man who identifies as a 6 yr. old girl lol. He doesn't work. There is literally a family who takes care of him and treats him as their daughter. I'm not kidding. Oh, and he dicked over his actual children when he abandoned them in order go play dress up.

Originally posted by Surtur
Just to be clear, you are saying the guy who said that a man pretending he is a 6 yr. old girl would be called insane...is a POS?

Surely I am wrong and you meant the grown man saying he is a 6 yr. old girl was the piece of shit...I hope that is the case.

I personally find it strange and the fact that he abandoned his children sits poorly with me. But if he's not sucking off the system (eg like some here) and is being supported by willing people, why do you care what he/they do does?

Am I being a dick if I do not treat him as or refer to him as a 6 year old girl?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'll take a crack at it.

Not confident about the first one, but I'll go with male; something about the face. I'm 99% positive that the second is a male, and that the third is a female, though. That being said, I probably wouldn't suspect any of the three if I wasn't tipped off that they might be trans.

...but how'd I do?


Drag queen, transwoman, cisgender woman.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Drag queen, transwoman, cisgender woman.

I had Trans, Trans, CIS. But it doesn't matter because in person, if I was attracted to them, as a cisgendered male, it really doesn't matter. It's just my basic male biology doing its thing.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I had Trans, Trans, CIS. But it doesn't matter because in person, if I was attracted to them, as a cisgendered male, it really doesn't matter. It's just my basic male biology doing its thing. ur gay

Originally posted by Beniboybling
ur gay

I have never been attracted to a trans person, ever. I can always tell. The medical science is just not there.

Originally posted by Robtard
I personally find it strange and the fact that he abandoned his children sits poorly with me. But if he's not sucking off the system (eg like some here) and is being supported by willing people, why do you care what he/they do does?

He can do what he wants, but nope, not a single person is going to demand I treat him like a little girl. It just is not going to happen.

You're mentally ill if you get angry people won't participate in your delusions.

Seriously though Surt, I hope you understand the world of difference between a general transperson and someone who's pretending to be a 6-year-old girl as some kind of regressive fantasy

Originally posted by Scribble
Seriously though Surt, I hope you understand the world of difference between a general transperson and someone who's pretending to be a 6-year-old girl as some kind of regressive fantasy

I understand one is far more mentally ill than the others, yes.

In the same way I understand a 500 lb man is fatter than a 400 lb man, but the 400 lb man is still fat as f*ck too.

Yep.

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Originally posted by Surtur
I understand one is far more mentally ill than the others, yes.

In the same way I understand a 500 lb man is fatter than a 400 lb man, but the 400 lb man is still fat as f*ck too. That's a shame, I've provided plenty of contrary evidence for this fairly unscientific belief of yours, now I realise that when you strategically stop replying when I get to the heart of the issue that's just you unable to face your own prejudices and actively switching off. Good to know though, because it means I can stop trying to challenge you on the topic. Shame that I had to waste so much time beforehand, though. Ah, well. Ignorance is bliss, etc.