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http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials/

there's a lot of sense in that article. it's pretty shiity he had to throw race in there almost immediately but oh well. this is the way shiit is now.

almost everyone i know does work two jobs or so. i'm an older millenial myself. it's hard to think that once upon a time the guy who delivered milk to people's doors could afford a house next door to them.

in the article....tyrone really shouldn't have been knocking chicks up if he was essentially homeless...that is stupid.

The layout of that article gave me aids.

Originally posted by BackFire
The layout of that article gave me aids.

it was phucking difficult

I am sure Messiah Obama will solve all these problems when he gets his 3rd Term.

As Squidward always said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eXU2p982GQ

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3alOx1z0hE


As a young millennial myself, this article really triggered my anxiety for the first time in a long time. I hate being reminded of the direness of this generation's situation.

College is a scam. The PBS documentary Declining by Degrees goes into how college has transformed into the ultimate corporate sham.

Worst of all, I've realized this but I have no choice but to take out loans and attend due to tiger parents. Either I take out massive debt or become disowned by my parents and end up homeless. My only motivation in school right now is to avoid the latter. In the end I'm going to end up with a worthless degree with my only option being dental school which would add $350,000 in debt. Account for interest and it's closer to 400k+. I'd be in debt until I'm middle-aged.

Plenty of things are contributing to this situation, but the college sham is definitely the biggest one in my mind. Plenty of trades can pay good salaries for minimal debt.

The American dream has been dead for a while now.

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Poor widdle Millys.

The site makes your eyes bleed.

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Yeah, they are screwed.

Question: If school is so expensive in the US, why not study abroad?

My wife got her PT license here and still pulls about 60-70k a year (before she had to stop working to spend more time with the baby) in the US with zero debt (since a decent med school here back then was around maybe 1-2k USD a year and the standard of living here is no more than maybe 150-250USD a month and yes, you can live on that, food, rent and even go out once in a while). I know the schools there are better, but 50k-100k (even 200-400k) in debt better? I dunno.

The only reason U.S Schoos are so "Expensive" is because of the Corruption spread by the Leftist Teachers Unions. That and Schools are run by Socialists so of course they want all of your money....because Socialism.

So, the anecdote provided in the article is not congruent with the facts on this subject. This concludes part one of the debunk. I cannot believe how much time you force me to spend on debunking your shit.

Originally posted by Kurk
As Squidward always said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eXU2p982GQ

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3alOx1z0hE


As a young millennial myself, this article really triggered my anxiety for the first time in a long time. I hate being reminded of the direness of this generation's situation.

College is a scam. The PBS documentary Declining by Degrees goes into how college has transformed into the ultimate corporate sham.

Worst of all, I've realized this but I have no choice but to take out loans and attend due to tiger parents. Either I take out massive debt or become disowned by my parents and end up homeless. My only motivation in school right now is to avoid the latter. In the end I'm going to end up with a worthless degree with my only option being dental school which would add $350,000 in debt. Account for interest and it's closer to 400k+. I'd be in debt until I'm middle-aged.

Plenty of things are contributing to this situation, but the college sham is definitely the biggest one in my mind. Plenty of trades can pay good salaries for minimal debt.

The American dream has been dead for a while now.

The funny thing, is that scam you mentioned is also the breeding ground of liberal politics, and yet it's not even under the control of liberals.

How liberal could you be if you're an administrator making millions for themselves, as they break the back of tenure by filling the rooms with underpaid adjunct professors with no job security and more students then one person can manage..?

I do agree. I'm 41. Every time I hear "millennial" I do think "entitlement".

I am doing okay. I could be better. But I most certainly do not pay half my income towards housing.

None of his criticisms add up, to me.


Sure, I had student loans but nothing outrageous. They are almost gone.

My car is paid off.


I have debt, no doubt. But that is being paid off.


Perhaps he should stop complaining about his situation and actually work towards doing something about it. I was in school more than full time and working more than full time while married with 2 kids. I didn't think anything of it until I got done and then I started hearing about people being super upset about having so much school work to do and not enough time to get hang out with their friends (drinking, smoking, clubbing). WTF?

There's your problem, dumbasses.

I haven't spewed or asserted anything. I've linked an article I read so that people can discuss, agree with, or disagree with said article.

If I don't post this article, you don't get to debunk it. And I stay as ignorant as I was previously. I'm not sure why you dislike people learning more or gaining new perspectives.

Rolling the wheel on your mouse down was "extrodinary laborious?"

I'm not seeing the issue with graphic design that punctuates whatever point the article is making.

If you have legitimate gripes with the content of this article, go ahead, I'm not interested in your inability to appreciate creativity.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I am doing okay. I could be better. But I most certainly do not pay half my income towards housing.

None of his criticisms add up, to me.


Sure, I had student loans but nothing outrageous. They are almost gone.

My car is paid off.


I have debt, no doubt. But that is being paid off.


Perhaps he should stop complaining about his situation and actually work towards doing something about it. I was in school more than full time and working more than full time while married with 2 kids. I didn't think anything of it until I got done and then I started hearing about people being super upset about having so much school work to do and not enough time to get hang out with their friends (drinking, smoking, clubbing). WTF?

There's your problem, dumbasses.
Anecdotal evidence followed by a rather cocky assumption you understand the author's situation or what he is and isn't doing.

Your superiority complex is impressive. Your ability to support your claims? Not so much.

real question tho. what are you a freedom fighter against man? you always posting victim stuff.

Originally posted by Raisen
real question tho. what are you a freedom fighter against man? you always posting victim stuff.

The patriarchy.

Originally posted by Raisen
real question tho. what are you a freedom fighter against man? you always posting victim stuff.
Freedom fighters stand up for the victims of oppression and institutional misconduct.

Whether you think my generation qualifies is something you can argue against or for. But standing up for victims isn't really outside the vein of a freedom fighter.

Not that I was thinking about politics when I first came up with this name. It just sounded cool.

Edit:
Whether or not you think our economic situation is unfortunate and a result of bad luck, our world dying is something we can fully pin on "the olds" and is a great deal more significant than whatever the hell our situation is economically.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I haven't spewed or asserted anything. I've linked an article I read so that people can discuss, agree with, or disagree with said article.

If I don't post this article, you don't get to debunk it. And I stay as ignorant as I was previously. I'm not sure why you dislike people learning more or gaining new perspectives.

Rolling the wheel on your mouse down was "extrodinary laborious?"

I'm not seeing the issue with graphic design that punctuates whatever point the article is making.

If you have legitimate gripes with the content of this article, go ahead, I'm not interested in your inability to appreciate creativity.
He does have legitimate gripes with the article, and he posted them in fleshed out detail.

This is just the thing you always do where someone makes a snide remark about something as a small part of a much larger criticism, and you zero in on that and accuse them of deflecting to try and undermine that person's stance by implying they are unwilling to properly defend it... when they very clearly are.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
He does have legitimate gripes with the article, and he posted them in fleshed out detail.

This is just the thing you always do where someone makes a snide remark about something as a small part of a much larger criticism, and you zero in on that and accuse them of deflecting to try and undermine that person's stance by implying they are unwilling to properly defend it... when they very clearly are.
And here's that thing you do where you accuse me of saying something I never said. Also known as a:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2296746757/n37nkkimyns6wr51ud16_400x400.jpeg

When did I say Harr didn't make legitimate points?

I'm focusing on the first part, because, as I've already admitted, I don't really have a stance regarding anything else. I'll allow someone far more knowledgeable about economics to discuss sh!t with Harr and form an opinion after reading that discussion.

I do find it funny you take issue with me defending my behavior, and not with Harr going on a tangent attacking my behavior in the first place.

A refresher on the part of the post I responded to so I don't have to deal with this "ur a hypocryte" bullshit you and surt like doing:

Your double standards amuse me Emp.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ynrQyoAUzgM/UKvzBPEFGMI/AAAAAAAABg4/yLQ6jXe0q3w/s1600/U.S.+Housing+Price+Index+Since+1900.jpg

https://www.financialsense.com/sites/default/files/users/u618/images/2013/CPI-PCE-cumulative-change.jpg

https://systemicdisorder.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/productivity-chart-1948-2013.png?w=584&h=376


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Union_membership_in_us_1930-2010.png/640px-Union_membership_in_us_1930-2010.png

https://powerlineiswrong.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/unionmembership_wages.png

http://www.alternet.org/files/-1x-1.png

https://systemicdisorder.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/productivity-chart-1948-2013.png


http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4d77553fcadcbb551d260000/a-depressing-look-at-income-growth-compared-to-health-care-and-college-cost.jpg

If only those darn millenials just pulled up their bootstraps! Then they could overcome those long term economic trends set in motion before they were born.

I am just glad these people exist now. Imagine if this was the generation being sent off to fight the nazis or to Vietnam? Holy shit lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
I am just glad these people exist now. Imagine if this was the generation being sent off to fight the nazis or to Vietnam? Holy shit lol.
Nah, we'll just be dead before 30 coz yall couldn't stop polluting the earth, killing the ocean, and stockpiling nukes.

And last I checked, Vietnam was a war, preceding generations started?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Nah, we'll just be dead before 30 coz yall couldn't stop polluting the earth, killing the ocean, and stockpiling nukes.

And last I checked, Vietnam was a war, preceding generations started?

You're gonna be dead because of pollution? Lol. Okay.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Nah, we'll just be dead before 30 coz yall couldn't stop polluting the earth, killing the ocean, and stockpiling nukes.

And last I checked, Vietnam was a war, preceding generations started?

Pollution is all a "Leftist lie" and Surtur's a millennial, an older one but still.

Originally posted by Surtur
You're gonna be dead because of pollution? Lol. Okay.
Oh boy, tell me you're not a climate denier

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Oh boy, tell me you're not a climate denier

I do not deny climate exists.

NGL, that post got me laughing my ass off.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Anecdotal evidence followed by a rather cocky assumption you understand the author's situation or what he is and isn't doing.

Your superiority complex is impressive. Your ability to support your claims? Not so much.

Sorry, no sympathy for people whining about their situations of not being able to afford to live when they clearly have the English language know how to write an article about how hard their life is at 35 for not getting motivated to do something about it. Clearly, he's intelligent. Clearly, he's well-written and spoken. Clearly, he's lazy and should do something about his situation.


Do you want a checklist?


1. Go to college and get a degree in something you can do and it is a degree in something that can pay your bills. English Lit? Sure, after you get the functional career degree.

2. Don't drink, do drugs, or go clubbing while in college (summer break? Hell no. Summer classes).

3. Work full time in a career that will work towards your post-graduate career. Can't get into that field? Work anyway in a job that gives you relatable experience. Don't complain. Find a job that pays for some of your college.

4. Don't live beyond your means. No cable TV. No new car. Live in a shitty house or small apartment. Read #2. Don't eat out: make food and plan your meals.

5. Apply for grants and scholarships.

6. Do your damn homework.

7. Study for your tests. Give yourself plenty of time to study.




If you can't follow that checklist, and then complain about having to pay 50% of your income to rent because you choose to live beyond your means and want to blog about your failure on the internet, looking for sympathy: sorry, I don't have it.

If you feel inferior to me because you're still in the "not started" stage of your life, stop making excuses and do something about your situation. If you feel I have a superiority complex because I chose to live within my means, sometimes had all-nighters doing homework, and still stayed awake at work the whole day, then you have a clear problem with honesty with yourself.

I just passed your comments by my former boss as he has a similar situation to me. He suggests to stop playing the blame game and get busy. FYI, he's a Berniecrat.

Thanks Dad

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Thanks Dad

You're welcome.


And many on the internet think my name is "dad ude mon" and call me "dad" for short.

And your mom calls me "daddy." estahuh

Agree with dadudemon that most people want to complain about life being unfair without implementing change in order to improve the quality. We all have friends who complain about their relationships, their jobs, etc. who don't do a damn thing to change it. They need to take ownership of their life. It's about having accountability.

Aight, I shouldn't embellish, pollution won't kill all of us by 2030.

It'll just kill our children.

But we're gonna run out of fish by 2050, at which point the ecosystems we depend on for food will collapse.

And that's assuming "mutually assured destruction" is enough to keep a wacko from sending the world into nuclear war.

Originally posted by dadudemon
He's lazy!
If you say so double d.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
If you say so double d.

Thanks, buddy! love2

Originally posted by dadudemon
I was in school more than full time and working more than full time while married with 2 kids. U were married and with two kids while still at school? Rad.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
U were married and with two kids while still at school? Rad.
He probably means college/uni.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
U were married and with two kids while still at school? Rad.

*in

And I usually enrolled in 12-15 credit hours per semester while working 40-60 hour work weeks.

Point is, you'll have to work for it. You have to be an adult if you're poor without connections. A daunting concept for many, it would seem.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
He probably means college/uni.

In the US, school is anything from elementry to graduate....wait for it...school. (We say "graduate school."

Even our universities sometimes have the word "school" in them such as the Spartan School of Aeronautics.



I know, shocking...Americans speak slightly differently than British. grouchoawe


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School#North_America_and_the_United_States

Admittedly my grades were garbage back in college as a Physics major. In fact I had to retake several classes in addition to working during my "Summer Vacation" just to make sure I would earn my degree.

Then again I would argue that is now a bit more work trying to find work that will allow one to move forward in the United States but we all have to start somewhere right?

Originally posted by dadudemon
In the US, school is anything from elementry to graduate....wait for it...school. (We say "graduate school."

Even our universities sometimes have the word "school" in them such as the Spartan School of Aeronautics.



I know, shocking...Americans speak slightly differently than British. grouchoawe


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School#North_America_and_the_United_States Americans speak weird yeah, but uni is still a bit early to be getting old and crusty.

I couldn't finish that shit, too much crying. It's not that bad out there, job availability is quite a bit higher than it was 7 or 8 years ago.