Dooku vs. Snoke

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Stigma
Snoke faces the good Count.

Can he make it?

Setting: Geonosis, hangar where Dooku fought Kenobi and Skywalker.

Starting distance: 100 feet


Who wins?

Impediment
Dooku wins. Better feats, by far.

The Ellimist
I think Snoke is more powerful in the Force, but I don't know if that will be enough because in close quarters he dies badly.

Impediment
Dooku was a light saber bad ass and used Force lightning.

Snoke used TK and had zero saber feats.

Dooku stomps.

Darth Thor
Dooku has pretty bad ass TK feats as well tbh (ragdolling Kenobi).

juggernaut74
Dooku is a Sith Lord, Snoke is a wannabe riding the coat tails of Palpatine.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Dooku stomps and it isnt even close.

SquallX
Quanchi incoming in

3,2,1!

Get them quan.

Surtur
Especially if you count feats from the clone wars cartoon...this is a hilarious stomp.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by SquallX
Quanchi incoming in

3,2,1!

Get them quan. The actor who played Snoke said that he's more powerful than Vader or Sidious.

BruceSkywalker
Snoke's only chance would be to ask for mercy prior to getting beat up by the Count

Placidity
Originally posted by juggernaut74
The actor who played Snoke said that he's more powerful than Vader or Sidious.

There can be personal reasons why he would say that.

And it wouldn't matter if that was actually the writer's intent either if the discrepancy between feats and intent is so great.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by SquallX
Quanchi incoming in

3,2,1!

Get them quan.

laughing out loud

Josh_Alexander
Darth Tyranus takes the win.

Snoke's feats aren't enough.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Impediment
Dooku was a light saber bad ass and used Force lightning.

Snoke used TK and had zero saber feats.

Dooku stomps.

While I agree with your post, I think Snoke also used FL. Very brief zap, against Kylo early in TLJ.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Placidity
There can be personal reasons why he would say that.

And it wouldn't matter if that was actually the writer's intent either if the discrepancy between feats and intent is so great.


Plus was before the film was out. So he was just hiding spoilers.

The Ellimist
Pretty sure Pablo or someone said to not take that seriously.

quanchi112
Snoke destroys him. He wrecks Palpatine so this clown has even less of a chance than 0.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Snoke destroys him. He wrecks Palpatine so this clown has even less of a chance than 0.

Snoke aint $hit....

Dooku wins based on feats...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Snoke aint $hit....

Dooku wins based on feats... Snoke wins off feats. He force rapes Dooku.

relentless1
lol what feats does Snoke have that allows him to beat Dooku let alone Sidious himself??

No bullshit ABC logic, no dancing around the facts; what FEATS can you compare Snokes to that beat Dookus? How does Snoke beat a guy who's got 10x peter showings than the meager one or two that Snoke had in his brief appearance??

Placidity
Snoke gives a monologue, then Dooku slices him in half.

This is a fact.

Stigma
Originally posted by Placidity
Snoke gives a monologue, then Dooku slices him in half.

This is a fact.
Sounds about right thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by relentless1
lol what feats does Snoke have that allows him to beat Dooku let alone Sidious himself??

No bullshit ABC logic, no dancing around the facts; what FEATS can you compare Snokes to that beat Dookus? How does Snoke beat a guy who's got 10x peter showings than the meager one or two that Snoke had in his brief appearance?? Force bridge feat, overpowering Rey to the point of complete domination feat, extracting intel Ren failed to get on his own.

Dooku couldn't even utterly dominate Anakin with his force power alone. He needed to rely on his lightsaber once Anakin stopped being reckless.

Snoke doesn't need one hundred feats to prove his superiority to the Sith.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku couldn't even utterly dominate Anakin with his force power alone.

Son and Daughter failed also...

quanchi112
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Son and Daughter failed also... Well Rey and Ben are more impressive according to Luke. Snoke raped Rey in a manner unseen and she's surging in power to meet Kylo's ascension in darkness.

relentless1
Originally posted by quanchi112
Force bridge feat, overpowering Rey to the point of complete domination feat, extracting intel Ren failed to get on his own.


lol Vader was able to extract the truth about Lukes sister from his mind with no fight whatsoever, thats > Snoke mental extraction

Palpatine was able to cloud his presence in the Force and diminish the Jedis connection to it for YEARS; thats > Snokes Force bridge

Dooku was able to Manhandle Anakin whose much more trained and same potential as Rey far easier; with one hand and casually toss him against a wall; did the same to Kenobi easily while fighting off Anakin also the second go around which is > Snoke ragging her

the Sith are much more potent and powerful than Snoke man just let it go

quanchi112
Originally posted by relentless1
lol Vader was able to extract the truth about Lukes sister from his mind with no fight whatsoever, thats > Snoke mental extraction

Palpatine was able to cloud his presence in the Force and diminish the Jedis connection to it for YEARS; thats > Snokes Force bridge

Dooku was able to Manhandle Anakin whose much more trained and same potential as Rey far easier; with one hand and casually toss him against a wall which is > Snoke ragging her

the Sith are much more potent and powerful than Snoke man just let it go Luke's thoughts betrayed him and no one else failed to make Vader look more impressive. The fact Vader was too much of a dope to realize he had a daughter shows how moronic he is. Luke also peered into his mind. laughing out loud

So ? Sidious couldn't find Yoda or even sense he wasn't killed.

Snoke's force bridge feat is amazement.

Dooku couldn't dominate him via the force only which is the point. He had to rely on his skills with a light saber. Hell, Anakin as Darth Vader force stalemated Kenobi despite being more powerful this shedding more light on just how powerful Snoke truly is.


Nah, Snoke and the newer films are far grander in every single way.

FO>empire.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Dooku 10/10

Darth Thor
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Son and Daughter failed also...


thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Dooku 10/10 Based on ? Your opinion isn't even supported by anything resembling a logical case. It's just a blanket baseless statement. Snoke wins based off the evidence, loser.

Raptor22
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Dooku 10/10

quanchi112
Originally posted by Raptor22
Based on ?

juggernaut74
Snoke would fear Lord Tyranus.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Snoke would fear Lord Tyranus. Nah, Darth Tyranus would bend the knee and be right at home cucking for Snoke.

h1a8
I have a serious question. Top force users can crush solid steel, using tk, without too much effort. Why don't they use tk crush on other force users?
Is it PIS or that other force users can counter the force used on them?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8

Is it PIS or that other force users can counter the force used on them?


Both. Plus Remember Star Wars needs to stay kid friendly. That kind of thing would be R Rated.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by h1a8
I have a serious question. Top force users can crush solid steel, using tk, without too much effort. Why don't they use tk crush on other force users?
Is it PIS or that other force users can counter the force used on them? If I was a force user I'd just pop my opponents eye balls.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ? Your opinion isn't even supported by anything resembling a logical case. It's just a blanket baseless statement. Snoke wins based off the evidence, loser.


Feats and power scaling clearly favor Dooku.

Unless you think Noob Rey is already a match for AOTC Anakin and ROTS Kenobi laughing out loud

Both of whom got Force Owned by Dooku. The latter while Dooku was battling 2 Jedi.


Feats wise there's really no contest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Feats and power scaling clearly favor Dooku.

Unless you think Noob Rey is already a match for AOTC Anakin and ROTS Kenobi laughing out loud

Both of whom got Force Owned by Dooku. The latter while Dooku was battling 2 Jedi.


Feats wise there's really no contest. No, it clearly doesn't. Watch the film because in the film when Kylo goes out to face Luke we see Finn clearly say let's help him implying he's going to need it. Kylo is a force in the film and it's clear the only reason he lost was due to his inner conflict but he was also clearly injured by Chewie.

Feat wise Snoke destroys him as well due to the force bridge, effortlessly dominating Rey's force power at will, and putting Kylo down when he was tired of Snoke mocking him.

Darth Bader couldn't even overpower the clearly inferior Kenobi in force power. GTFO.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the film because in the film when Kylo goes out to face Luke we see Finn clearly say let's help him implying he's going to need it. eek!

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it clearly doesn't. Watch the film because in the film when Kylo goes out to face Luke we see Finn clearly say let's help him implying he's going to need it. Kylo is a force in the film and it's clear the only reason he lost was due to his inner conflict but he was also clearly injured by Chewie.


Yes Kylo is the one who took Snoke out. But he shitted his pants once Luke showed up, despite Kylo having all the firepower on his side thumb up


Originally posted by quanchi112
Feat wise Snoke destroys him as well due to the force bridge, effortlessly dominating Rey's force power at will, and putting Kylo down when he was tired of Snoke mocking him.



Yes he made a force bridge between 2 people already connected by the Force, as he himself explained thumb up

Yes he dominated Noob Rey, and used his guards to intimidate Kylo. Amazing thumb up




Originally posted by quanchi112
Darth Bader couldn't even overpower the clearly inferior Kenobi in force power. GTFO.




Yes because dominating Noob Rey is so much more impressive than matching a high level Jedi Master who taught you everything you know thumb up

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Darth Thor







Yes he made a force bridge between 2 people already connected by the Force, as he himself explained thumb up

That pales in comparison to Luke projecting himself across the galaxy being able to hold solid objects on top of that.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
eek! Well it is true. Kylo is a beast despite the haters.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes Kylo is the one who took Snoke out. But he shitted his pants once Luke showed up, despite Kylo having all the firepower on his side thumb up
Not in direct combat. Ben beat him while awaking from a nap. Kylo knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke. Not the same with Luke since he already beat him. Luke tricked the impulsive Kylo who still lacks the wisdom Snoke possesses. Hux also doesn't respect him whatsoever so you have a leader who doesn't even have the respect of his general.




It is still an impressive feat. Dude, he walked up to Kylo you moron. He put him down. Star Wars fans are retarded and do not look stun the evidence but would rather base their entire argument off a Star Wars book. Notice not one of the Star Wars pansies accepts my battlezones because they are cowards like Palpatine. All talk and no balls when push comes to shove.








She was trained by Luke you moron and her power rose to match Kylo's. The force gave her the power.

Vader is more powerful yet despite that he can't get anything save a stalemate in force power.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That pales in comparison to Luke projecting himself across the galaxy being able to hold solid objects on top of that. False. That also took place on a force nexus which amped his abilities.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not in direct combat. Ben beat him while awaking from a nap. Kylo knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke. Not the same with Luke since he already beat him. Luke tricked the impulsive Kylo who still lacks the wisdom Snoke possesses. Hux also doesn't respect him whatsoever so you have a leader who doesn't even have the respect of his general.


Of course it wasn't direct combat when Snoke had so much back up. But Kylo still overpowered Snoke in the Force by hiding his true intentions. And he did that to a guy whose best feats are TP feats.

No, he knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke AND his guards. As soon as Rey was there to help him with the guards, he seized the opportunity to take Snoke out.




Originally posted by quanchi112
It is still an impressive feat. Dude, he walked up to Kylo you moron. He put him down. Star Wars fans are retarded and do not look stun the evidence but would rather base their entire argument off a Star Wars book. Notice not one of the Star Wars pansies accepts my battlezones because they are cowards like Palpatine. All talk and no balls when push comes to shove.



Yeah he wlaked upto Kylo when Kylo was on his knees. Then shot him before Kylo could get back up and attack. Then used his guards to intimidate Kylo from trying anything else.

Lets face it, Snoke is too physically weak to do anything without his guards around.


Battlezone against who? You're flip flopping all the time. This is DOOKU vs Snoke.

Snoke's not worthy at all to be compared to Sidious in any way.








Originally posted by quanchi112
She was trained by Luke you moron and her power rose to match Kylo's. The force gave her the power.

Vader is more powerful yet despite that he can't get anything save a stalemate in force power.


Yeah trained for a few days or weeks? And even that was mostly about why the Jedi should end.

She's not on Kylo's level of training at all.

The same Vader that Snoke and Kylo worship thumb up

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. That also took place on a force nexus which amped his abilities. Couldn't have amped him much considering IT F*CKING KILLED HIM!!!!!!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course it wasn't direct combat when Snoke had so much back up. But Kylo still overpowered Snoke in the Force by hiding his true intentions. And he did that to a guy whose best feats are TP feats.
No. The backup isn't what scared him or caused him to stop. It was Snoke. Snoke put him down. His guards didn't do anything to him. He got impulsive which he always does and was put in his place. No, he didn't overpower him. He was overconfident and was not paying attention to the location of both lightsabers. Your silly points are silly.

At no point in this scene do the guards have any bearing on his decision. The guards are there when he makes his intent clear. If what you say is true he wouldn't have done anything. He still went towards him I an aggressive manner but stopped after the fl zap. At no point does he stop due to the guards. Baseless claim. He knew that was the perfect moment because Snoke was reveling in his victory and dropped his defenses.

Luke stood over Ben while he was sleeping. He walked towards him he at no point created distance between the two. Watch the scene you moron. He walks towards him he doesn't have guards in between the two. He has his elite guard near him because that makes sense for a powerful,leader to have protection close by.

His fl is what made him stop not the guards. Let's face it that's a baseless claim and he can use the force to hurl fl or use his power to disarm or throttle his foes. We see him do it. He's close enough to Rey to kiss the skank. He isn't retreating behind guards at at ****inf point.

Your opinion is that of the Star Wars losers. Sheep. That's all you really are.
False, I've had two posters agree to battlezones and just dip out. Ils and Ellimist both agreed to the Kelvin trilogy vs. the Ot empire to back out of it. I also see other battlezones agreed upon to never see a post from one of the two posters.

So ? Luke trained her. It isn't about the quantity it's about the quality of training.

I know but she is his equal in force power. Despite Kylo's training he can't overpower her but Snoke can.

Nah, he mocked him and wanted him focused like Vader. Snoke was manipulating him in that scene. He knew thatbwojld result in him recommitting himself.

You also dipped out of a Khan/Vader battlezone the day of.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Couldn't have amped him much considering IT F*CKING KILLED HIM!!!!!! It amped him and he passed on in peace. He didn't want to love he was suicidal you moron. He had a purpose and moved on. He needed a force nexus for his vaguest and grandest feat exaggerated by fanboys.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
It amped him and he passed on in peace. He didn't want to love he was suicidal you moron. He had a purpose and moved on. He needed a force nexus for his vaguest and grandest feat exaggerated by fanboys. If there was a nexus there why couldn't Snoke find him? Oh, that's right Snoke sucks!!!!!!!!

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
If there was a nexus there why couldn't Snoke find him? Oh, that's right Snoke sucks!!!!!!!! Luke didn't use the force until the end but come on now. This is seriously a stupid thing to say. Sidious couldn't find Luke either but Snoke did lure Rey back to extract the information from her himself. Snoke would decimate Sidious. Deep down you know this to be true.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Luke didn't use the force until the end but come on now. This is seriously a stupid thing to say. Sidious couldn't find Luke either but Snoke did lure Rey back to extract the information from her himself. Snoke would decimate Sidious. Deep down you know this to be true. I think you're blowing the whole force nexus out of line. Kenobi beat Anakin on Mustafar, which if I'm not mistaken was a dark side nexus or some made up Disney bullshit.

Darth Thor

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think you're blowing the whole force nexus out of line. Kenobi beat Anakin on Mustafar, which if I'm not mistaken was a dark side nexus or some made up Disney bullshit. No, I'm not. Luke was on the same specific Jedi force nexus when he performed the feat. It's specific points but he clearly meditated on it.

Disney's property they can do what they want with it.

quanchi112

juggernaut74
Dooku still wins.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Dooku still wins. Ridiculous. Snoke wins. Too powerful in the force for Dooku to resist.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ridiculous. Snoke wins. Too powerful in the force for Dooku to resist. Dooku died a warriors death, Snoke died a joke.

Darth Thor

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Dooku died a warriors death, Snoke died a joke. Dooku died a cuck. He didn't even object. Sidious didn't die a warrior either as he was hurled screaming to his own death. Plagueis was murdered in his sleep. For ****s sake be somewhat knowledgeable about Star Wars because he our reasoning again is about which character you like more. Your ignorance is showing.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku died a cuck. He didn't even object. Sidious didn't die a warrior either as he was hurled screaming to his own death. Plagueis was murdered in his sleep. For ****s sake be somewhat knowledgeable about Star Wars because he our reasoning again is about which character you like more. Your ignorance is showing. Warriors don't cry before they are killed.

Try and keep up son.

juggernaut74

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Dooku is better than Supreme Leader Choke in every way. He was never the dark side master. He also was less powerful and less wise. Snoke destroys him.

juggernaut74
Supreme Loser Choke couldn't even sense a lightsaber moving right beside him.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Supreme Loser Choke couldn't even sense a lightsaber moving right beside him. Dooku was betrayed as was Sidious. Get over it. Plaguies as well. It happens all the time. Snoke wins here. He's simply more powerful than Dooku. Dooku got his ass pummeled by Anakin in rots in a fair fight. That's relevant. Your emotions aren't.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku was betrayed as was Sidious. Get over it. Plaguies as well. It happens all the time. Snoke wins here. He's simply more powerful than Dooku. Dooku got his ass pummeled by Anakin in rots in a fair fight. That's relevant. Your emotions aren't. Getting beat by Anakin>>getting stabbed while bragging about how much of a badass you are.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Getting beat by Anakin>>getting stabbed while bragging about how much of a badass you are. False, you're trying to say what's cooler to you which isn't relevant. Anakin crushed him in fair combat. Snoke decimated Rey and put Kylo on his place. Snoke destroys Dooku.

juggernaut74
Snoke was killed by a wannabe who was almost killed by a novice.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Snoke was killed by a wannabe who was almost killed by a novice. Ben beat Luke. However you slice it doesn't matter. Dooku was beaten in fair combat. Snoke is too powerful for Dooku. Make a relevant point. You're just arguing on irrevelant things.

Darth Thor

Stigma
Dooku cuts Snoke in half.

juggernaut74

quanchi112

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Apparently common sense isn't his thing. I debate based off the facts whereas most debate based off preferences such as yourself.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Stigma
Dooku cuts Snoke in half. Snoke force rapes while mocking him.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Dooku wasn't able to force rape AOTC Anakin at will. He needed a lightsaber once he recovered. That Anakin was awfully retarded. Dooku also caught Kenobi off guard. He can't just overpower him whenever he wants. That's the difference.


AMalik rushed at Dooku the same way Rey was.

Except Anakin had 10 years training. ROTS Kenobi was a high level Jedi Master. Rey was a Noob. Fact.

Dooku wins.

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Son and Daughter failed also...

Plus remember: strong minds are incredibly hard to influence. There is an episode where it takes a combination of Obi Wan, Mace Windu, and Anakin in order to have any effect on Cad Bane's mind, and he doesn't even have any force powers.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Surtur
Plus remember: strong minds are incredibly hard to influence. There is an episode where it takes a combination of Obi Wan, Mace Windu, and Anakin in order to have any effect on Cad Bane's mind, and he doesn't even have any force powers.


It seems Dark Siders can extract information more easily than Jedi.

In Rebels Maul Easily extracts information from Hera, whose definitely not weak minded.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
AMalik rushed at Dooku the same way Rey was.

Except Anakin had 10 years training. ROTS Kenobi was a high level Jedi Master. Rey was a Noob. Fact.

Dooku wins. Rey was disarmed twice. Difference is once Skywalker didn't attempt to blitz him he held his ground. Dooku wasn't able to force rape him at will. Rey was unable to mount any offense and was disarmed twice with relative ease. Dooku had to duel him. Snoke was too powerful for Rey to even challenge him at all. Her raw strength caused Luke to fall back so there's that. She was also trained by Luke Skywalker. Luke didn't even complete his Yoda training and came back to assrape Darth Vader in Rotj despite Vader's lifetime of training.

smile

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It seems Dark Siders can extract information more easily than Jedi.

In Rebels Maul Easily extracts information from Hera, whose definitely not weak minded. Kylo was unable to break Rey but Snoke just effortlessly did so. Snoke is immensely powerful as I claimed. I know my Disney Star Wars.

Darth Thor

quanchi112

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
You repeat yourself in josh Alexander fashion. Kylo didn't keep his true intentions from him. He was about to attack his true enemy but in his arrogance he didn't realize there was a lightsaber to his side.



laughing out loud


The fact that Kylo hid his true intentions and got the sucker punch on him means they're can't be that much difference in power between them.

The Apprentice took out his Master fair and square.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
laughing out loud


The fact that Kylo hid his true intentions and got the sucker punch on him means they're can't be that much difference in power between them.

The Apprentice took out his Master fair and square. No, it doesn't. You're comparing apples to oranges. Snoke wasn't trying to overpower him in the force he was overconfident about his intentions and reveling in his glory. The situation was ideal for the betrayal due to the locations of the sabers.

Not in a direct fight. It's about as fair as Sidious attacking Plagueis in his sleep. We see what happens when Kylo makes an aggressive movement towards Snoke when he's focusing on him. It's rather annoying to continue to have to explain the obvious to you.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't. You're comparing apples to oranges. Snoke wasn't trying to overpower him in the force he was overconfident about his intentions and reveling in his glory. The situation was ideal for the betrayal due to the locations of the sabers.

Not in a direct fight. It's about as fair as Sidious attacking Plagueis in his sleep. We see what happens when Kylo makes an aggressive movement towards Snoke when he's focusing on him. It's rather annoying to continue to have to explain the obvious to you.


Yeah except Kylo didn't attack Snoke in his sleep. He in fact attacked Snoke when ALL OF Snoke's attention was on Kylo. ACTIVELY reading his mind.

There was no direct conflict because Snoke was too much of a pussy for that keeping his guards around at all times. Guards we know Kylo can't solo.

Kylo beat him as soon as he got a fair shot (i.e. with Rey there as his own back up).

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah except Kylo didn't attack Snoke in his sleep. He in fact attacked Snoke when ALL OF Snoke's attention was on Kylo. ACTIVELY reading his mind.

There was no direct conflict because Snoke was too much of a pussy for that keeping his guards around at all times. Guards we know Kylo can't solo.

Kylo beat him as soon as he got a fair shot (i.e. with Rey there as his own back up). As I said Snoke wasn't defending himself and the location of the lightsabers made this possible. If Kylo actually had a chance in a straight up battle he wouldn't have been put in his place by Snoke in the first scene.

Snoke put Kylo down. He walked close to him after mocking him. When Kylo became aggressive he put him down. The guards didn't do anything. Your argument doesn't hold water since he never let his guards attack Kylo and only after he zapped him did he stop.

He didn't get a fair shot he attacked when Snoke let his guard down. Your double standards are nauseating.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
As I said Snoke wasn't defending himself and the location of the lightsabers made this possible.


Of course he was. He defended himself against Rey's attack. He just couldn't see Kylo coming, despite trying his best to see Kylo's thoughts and true intentions.

Snoke and Kylo aren't far apart in power. Deal with it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course he was. He defended himself against Rey's attack. He just couldn't see Kylo coming, despite trying his best to see Kylo's thoughts and true intentions.

Snoke and Kylo aren't far apart in power. Deal with it. He wasn't against Kylo's because he was busy gloating. Rey was dealt with because her intent was obvious. He believed he knew what he meant by true enemy.

Snoke is far more powerful than Kylo. We see it in direct relation to Rey. Your perceptions are wrong and I've been dealing with your hypocrisies for years. I'm used to it.

Darth Thor

quanchi112

Darth Thor
^ Lame Excuses. Kylo beat Snoke at his own game.

He made his move as soon as the odds were even, and he won.

Deal with it and take up Kylo as your new character to bandwagon onto.

Darth Thor

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Lame Excuses. Kylo beat Snoke at his own game.

He made his move as soon as the odds were even, and he won.

Deal with it and take up Kylo as your new character to bandwagon onto. Vader betrayed Sidious and Siduous betrayed Plagueis. That doesn't mean they win a fair duel against them. No, he made his move when his guard was down. Nothing more. Your inability to be objective over this is primarily motivated by your own innate bias.


Snoke is my favorite character. Kylo is currently third. Look I get you don't like either but just calm down. I am a new trilogy guy you're an Ot guy.

quanchi112

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quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I agree. So you both concede to Snoke. Run away, kid.

juggernaut74
Every time I check the polls your boy Snoke keeps going down.

You're doing a bang up job!!!!!!!!!!!!!

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Every time I check the polls your boy Snoke keeps going down.

You're doing a bang up job!!!!!!!!!!!!! Evidence matters not popularity. You're talking like a high school girl tbh.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Evidence matters not popularity. You're talking like a high school girl tbh. And the "evidence" you bring is not cutting it because the people have spoken.

Dooku>>Snoke.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
And the "evidence" you bring is not cutting it because the people have spoken.

Dooku>>Snoke. Peoole reject what conflicts with their bias. This isn't just Star Wars exclusive here. The evidence is Snoke's power shits all over Rey's whose own power was raised by the force to be Kylo's equal. Snoke is truly on his own level.

juggernaut74
Well you keep up the good work providing your "evidence".

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well you keep up the good work providing your "evidence". I won and you conceded. You already threw in the towel, loser.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
I won and you conceded. You already threw in the towel, loser. I'll keep waching the votes for Dooku rise while Snoke chokes.

Go ahead and count that as a win. laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'll keep waching the votes for Dooku rise while Snoke chokes.

Go ahead and count that as a win. laughing out loud Evidence matters not popularity. Spoken like a true vagina.

laughing out loud

Snoke wins.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by quanchi112
Evidence matters not popularity. Spoken like a true vagina.

laughing out loud

Snoke wins. Well the "evidence" you provided is doing a bang up job in changing peoples minds that's for sure.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well the "evidence" you provided is doing a bang up job in changing peoples minds that's for sure. Inherent bias is hard to turn. I don't give a shit how many morons I speak the facts to I won't stop. I won't stop mocking them either. **** 'em.

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