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Who takes this?

SSJ2 wasn't enough to beat Buu before, don't see why it would be now.

I'm tempted to say Fat Buu, cause I don't think Fat Buu got any weaker than he was before expelling his evilness, and Goku wouldn't have gotten strong enough to be at the level Fat Buu was, between ssj2 and ssj3 levels of power.

Goku kept training and got his ssj2 stronger. Fat Buu is former weak version of himself from the buu arc.

Goku should win.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Goku kept training and got his ssj2 stronger. Fat Buu is former weak version of himself from the buu arc.

Goku should win.

I agree.

The thing about Fat Buu is, he did a whole lot better against Kid Buu than ssj2 Vegeta did so Fat Buu isn't any weaker than when he first appeared. Fat Buu was somewhere between ssj2 and ssj3 level, and I don't think in the short amount of time that passed between Buu Saga and BoG that Goku's power would have increased enough to be that powerful.

Originally posted by Kento
The thing about Fat Buu is, he did a whole lot better against Kid Buu than ssj2 Vegeta did so Fat Buu isn't any weaker than when he first appeared. Fat Buu was somewhere between ssj2 and ssj3 level, and I don't think in the short amount of time that passed between Buu Saga and BoG that Goku's power would have increased enough to be that powerful.



Buu wins on attrition, if nothing else.

But I bet a suicide spam would beat most anybody.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
SSJ2 wasn't enough to beat Buu before, don't see why it would be now. This would technically be the 'good' incarnation of Fat Boo, who was weaker than the evil iteration... But it's ultimately irrelevant, because Goku doesn't have a chance here regardless.

I think most people are forgetting that DBS starts off just 6 months after the battle with Pure Boo in Z -- and I doubt Goku had improved much(if at all) in that time. Granted, his SSJ2 likely could have put up a decent fight against Fat/good Boo initially, but he certainly wasn't capable of delivering any lasting damage -- let alone beating/killing him. Boo's infinite stamina + regen is just too damn haxx.

Tbh, I'm hard-pressed to believe that even SSJ3 Goku could have perma-killed a Boo, but that's neither here nor there...

Originally posted by Galan007
This would technically be the 'good' incarnation of Fat Boo, who was weaker than the evil iteration...

Yeah, but he was still strong enough to hang for a bit against even Pure Buu, so I honestly don't think he's that far below "Evil" Fat Buu if at all.

The good incarnation of Fat Boo should be weaker than the evil incarnation(he did lose an aspect of his power, after all), but not by much.

Even though he was ultimately ragdolled, Fat Boo still did WAY better against Pure Boo than SSJ2 Vegeta did... That alone tells me Goku has NO chance here.

Tbh, I think you could put 'BoS' SSJ3 Goku here and I still don't see him beating Fat Boo. Granted Goku starts off far more powerful, but I don't see him dishing out any damage that Boo couldn't regen from -- especially in the short amount of time that he can sustain SSJ3 for... But that's neither here nor there. /shrug

I thought Goku could've killed pure Buu during the beginning of their battle as SS3?? If this is true, this version of Buu doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Goku could've killed pure Buu during the beginning of their battle as SS3?? If this is true, this version of Buu doesn't stand a chance. First off, SSJ2 Goku is in this thread. Fat Boo stomps him, hard.



Secondly, it was stated that a full power SSJ3 Goku > Pure Boo. However, I personally have my doubts that FPSSJ3 Goku could have *perma-killed* Pure Boo. Aside from his ridiculous regen, another characteristic that makes Boo so unique is that he has infinite stamina. IOW, he can take damage and regenerate endlessly, without losing any ki at all... The only way to truly *perma-kill* Boo is to generate an attack capable of utterly erasing every single atom of his being -- and the only forces capable of doing that are: SSJ Vegito-level characters(and above), and a universal Genki Dama(obviously).

Sans that level of *complete* erasure/nullification, nothing can injure/weaken Boo in the slightest(no matter how badly damaged his body is)... For example, even when Gotenks blew Super Boo into a bunch of tiny pieces, and incinerated each and every piece, he was still able to regenerate from the phucking smoke the Boo-bits produced, without dropping in ki at all:
https://i.imgur.com/1QkLKm2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fCFCYM4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IeJkUPr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5XGI0Gb.jpg

In fact, it was implied that it takes a Boo to weaken a Boo... Vegeta made note of this when Fat Boo was fighting Pure Boo:
https://i.imgur.com/3g6hijZ.jpg

Sharp contrast to SSJ3 Goku, who couldn't even begin to weaken Pure Boo no matter what he did:
https://i.imgur.com/ESlGSXk.jpg


*The only other 'non-Boo' we've seen who could weaken/deplete Boo with h2h alone, was Beerus himself:
https://i.imgur.com/qiKK0fu.jpg


Based on the above, it's possible that Boo cannot be weakened/depleted by 'mortals', regardless of their power. For example, even though Vegito was beating the absolute shit out of Boohan h2h, he never really sustained any *lasting* damage -- he continuously regenerated/healed all damage sustained after every assault, without ever dropping in ki. mmm



tl;dr
Even though FPSSJ3 Goku IS more powerful than Pure Boo overall, I just don't see how he could even hope to legitimately *deplete* Boo with his standard attacks -- let alone *perma-kill* him..? Especially since Goku can only maintain SSJ3 for a few minutes before he is completely taxed(which means he'd have to end Boo really fast.)

srug

Originally posted by Galan007
Based on the above, it's possible that Boo cannot be weakened/depleted by 'mortals', regardless of their power. For example, even though Vegito was beating the absolute shit out of Boohan h2h, he never really sustained any *lasting* damage -- he continuously regenerated/healed all damage sustained after every assault, without ever dropping in ki. mmm

It was stated that Buuhan was getting taxed. At least in the anime.

Nothing like that was stated in the manga. Every time Vegito beat the shit out of Boohan in the manga, *poof*, he regenerated all the damage and was none the worse for wear(despite the enormous difference in power between them.)

...And that's what I mean: it was heavily implied in the manga that 'mortals' cannot deplete Boo's energy, no matter how powerful they are -- it takes a Boo to weaken a Boo. Sans fighting another version of himself(or a Hakaishin), Boo's energy has never once been canonically stated to have dropped in battle(barring complete atomic erasure, obviously.)

Dude has the best stamina/regen in the franchise.