1/4/2018 - #3A (Ranking THREE, Round ONE) - Most Powerful Tournament - VOTE!

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



DarthAnt66
WHO IS THE #3 MOST POWERFUL CHARACTER?

---

RANKINGS:

1.) Luke Skywalker
2.) Palpatine

----

BACKGROUND AND RULES: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t649092.html.

---

REMINDER: All characters are strictly in their Legends incarnation and are at peak combative (not potential) capabilities under normal conditions (no external amplifies or other temporary boosts are to be considered). All characters are at peak mental mindset while maintaining an accurate portrayal of their mindset and beliefs (morals on). Lightsaber skill and related abilities (such as physical strength, speed, etc.) is to be considered if relevant.

---

ADDITIONAL NOTICE #1: "Morals on" means that characters are fighting as they would be portrayed within the Star Wars universe given the conditions listed above. The intent is to not weaken the characters of any power, but rather for light-side characters to stay light-side characters. Thus, Luke Skywalker is not going to embrace the dark-side and use Force lightning or Force drain. Instead, Luke will bring all his powers to bear given the constraints of his ideology.

---

ADDITIONAL NOTICE #2: UnuThul will be considered with the amplified abilities he receives from the Killiks. Yoda is as demonstrated in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith. Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader (pre-suit) is including all events from Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, including events on the Invisible Hand or Operation: Knightfall - if the member is of the opinion that the conditions during such fit the standards outlined above.

---

BANNED CHARACTERS: Ones of Mortis, Abeloth, Bedlam Spirits, Force Demons, Terror from Beyond, Waru, Mother Talzin, Gethzerion, Onimi, Irek Ismaren, Sarasu Taalon, World Razer, Sekot, Yuuzhan'tar, and other exotic entities.

---

VOTE!

The Ellimist
Not sure between Yoda, peak! Vader, and UnuThul.

samappo
I voted KF Anakin.

Plagueis and Nihilus are close follow ups imo.

Ursumeles
Can Valkorion overpower Anakin's mind, or will Vader slay him? mmm

The Ellimist
The cliff notes for considering UnuThul:

Mentally dominated scores of Jedi at the same time, including Jaina
Is implied to be able to TP any Jedi except for Jacen (or Luke)
Almost mentally dominated Luke
Is described by Han and implied by Jaina to be more powerful than Luke
Initially throws Luke around before admittedly getting beaten pretty badly
Bends turbolaser bolts, which have been described by some sources as lightspeed weapons (with sublight tracers) - potentially the best environmental TK feat in the mythos
Draws on the Force potential of trillions of killiks

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Valkorion, absolutely.

JKBart
Count me for Yoda thumb up

Nephthys
Valkorion

AncientPower
Valkorion

Ursumeles
**** it, I'm voting for Vader.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by AncientPower
Valkorion

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiIzuqnBznAiMPvws/giphy.gif

The_Tempest
Hmm. KF!Anakin or Yoda...

AncientPower
Nah, he's either one or he's not at all in my opinion. Him scaling off of being > ROTS Yoda/Sidious should put him at least 2.

But fine, KF!Vader.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Hmm. KF!Anakin or Yoda...
I'm curious about your thoughts on Unu.

cs_zoltan
Vader or Yoda, I'll vote later.

Ursumeles
can we add one vote for DCs Kyp?

Anyway, it seems like Anakin is winning (Ant, AP, sam, me)

I thought the Valk support would be stronger :mmm:

Rebel95
Having a tough time deciding between KF Vader, Yoda, and Valk...

Geistalt
Knightfall Vader.

Pessimystic
Valkorion.

The Ellimist
I'm voting for UnuThul.

cs_zoltan
lul throwing your vote away like that

Azronger
Post-suit Vader. If he isn't winning, replace my vote with pre-suit/KF Vader at the last second

SunRazer
Yoda.

Azronger
What's wrong with your face, Nova?

Trocity
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Valkorion, absolutely.

thumb up

Pretty clear choice here.

Lord Stark
Yoda undoubtedly imo.

DarthAnt66
Pre-Suit (5):
DarthAnt66
samappo
AncientPower
Ursumeles
Geistalt

Valkorion (4):
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nephthys
Pessimystic
Trocity

Yoda (3):
JKBart
SunRazer
Lord Stark

UnuThul (1):
The Ellimist

Post-Suit (1):
Azronger

Undecided (3):
The_Tempest
cs_zoltan
Rebel95

Votes thus far.

DarthAnt66
The undecided votes are going to be essential in deciding whether its Anakin vs Valk or Anakin vs Yoda in the run-off.

Azronger
Is someone socking again? The votes for Valk have raised in this thread as well as the Vitidiocy vs Sheevism one out of nowhere.

Anyway, I feel like the Yoda/Vader divide is splitting the PT group apart. If we pooled our votes together we vould beat Valk.

Pessimystic
^ It's Sunni vs Shia, Iran vs Saudi Arabia.

The PT Brigade are split and it's interesting.

S_W_LeGenDofPT
Palpatine should have won. I demand recount!

Out of remaining ones, however, I vote Knightfall Vader.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
Anyway, I feel like the Yoda/Vader divide is splitting the PT group apart. If we pooled our votes together we vould beat Valk.
Well, we're having a run-off.

Azronger
I'll change my vote Yoda. No way is post-suit winning this. It'd just be a waste of a vote.

Also, does the poll matterat all? Must the name be posted for it to count?

Sinious
Valkorion, I guess

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Sinious
Valkorion, I guess

thumb up

JKBart
Originally posted by Azronger
I'll change my vote Yoda.
welcome in the team smile

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
Also, does the poll matterat all? Must the name be posted for it to count?
Only write-in votes are counted.

Azronger
Ah good

Rebel95
KF Vader.

Rebel95
BTW cool idea Ant. How many are we gonna do?

NewGuy01
I feel like this would be a wonderful time for me to pitch in. Vader. smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ridiculous, tbh.

Azronger
Now we need the rest to vote for Yoda and all will be well smile

Pessimystic
Well shit. If suited Vader is getting a vote, we might as well add in Kenobi and Maul.

****ing stupid

Azronger
He isn't getting a vote. I changed mine to Yoda

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Rebel95
BTW cool idea Ant. How many are we gonna do?
Thanks. We're going to #25.

DarthAnt66
Anakin (7):
DarthAnt66
samappo
AncientPower
Ursumeles
Geistalt
Rebel95
NewGuy01

Valkorion (5):
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nephthys
Pessimystic
Trocity
Sinious

Yoda (4):
JKBart
SunRazer
Lord Stark
Azronger

UnuThul (1):
The Ellimist

Undecided (2):
The_Tempest
cs_zoltan

19 votes so far.

Will keep poll open for a day or two.

The Ellimist
Ant, if Valk vs. Yoda is within one by the time you close this switch me to Yoda please. This is why a multiple choice one-vote system is problematic lol.

Azronger
Nobody'll vote for UnuThul; just change it to Yoda.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ant, if Valk vs. Yoda is within one by the time you close this switch me to Yoda please. This is why a multiple choice one-vote system is problematic lol.

You spelled "Vader" wrong. no

DarthAnt66
I think he's assuming Vader will definitely make it to the run-off and is more interested in who will oppose him - Valk or Yoda.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by The Ellimist
This is why a multiple choice one-vote system is problematic lol.
Explaining how it works:

The two characters with the highest votes will be polled again. The winner gets crowned #3.

A new thread will be created for #4. The top two of that thread will go into the run-offs to decide #4.

The system I have in place is designed to make vote-splitting irrelevant.

Total Warrior
Valkorion

Nephthys
Why does Anakin have more votes than he does in the poll?

DarthAnt66
Some people shifted over.

Pessimystic
Huh, strange how Valkorion was almost first but now everyone's magically changing their mind.

cs_zoltan
I have both Yoda and Vader > Valkorion so just write me in to whoever has the less vote in the end.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I have both Yoda and Vader > Valkorion so just write me in to whoever has the less vote in the end. thumb up

LordOfTheLight
Meant to vote KF Vader, clicked UnuThul.

Nephthys
Theres only one vote for Unuthul, and its Ellimist's.

Azronger
Tbh, all who think both Yoda and Vader are > Valk should just go with Zoltan's answer.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I have both Yoda and Vader > Valkorion so just write me in to whoever has the less vote in the end.

Also, who voted for Plagueis?

AncientPower
No chance Valk doesn't take 4.

cs_zoltan
Glad you talk for all 20 of us AP.

Rockydonovang
Hey Ant, you should add Mace to these polls.

cs_zoltan
He will (I guess), but no reason to list Mace before Yoda is even placed.

Rockydonovang
Well, he listed Plagueis...

who inexplicably got voted for

cs_zoltan
That's not the same, Mace is canonically inferior to Yoda, Plagueis isn't.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
That's not the same, Mace is canonically inferior to Yoda, Plagueis isn't.
Plagueis being inferior to TPM Sids kinda tanks the notion he's a match for someone close enough to ROTS Sidious that he held him to a virtual stalemate.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Well, he listed Plagueis...

who inexplicably got voted for The poll doesn't matters.

cs_zoltan
You really gonna make a f-ucking issue out of this?

Ursumeles
Are you talking to me or Kbro?

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Ursumeles
The poll doesn't matters.
Then why do the poll format in the first place.

Wasn't really making an issue...

He was obviously talking to you. Stop making a f-ucking issue man.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Then why do the poll format in the first place..
Ant wanted it, but then the socks atracked.

Beniboybling

Rockydonovang
voting for zoltan's option would make the process quicker.

Beniboybling
you do you uhuh

samappo
Did Anakin know the resist drain technique? If not, could Nihilus simply one shot drain him?

FIFAPL4YER
Originally posted by samappo
Did Anakin know the resist drain technique? If not, could Nihilus simply one shot drain him?
Anakin did actually learn that power.

Emperordmb
Oh I voted Valk

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Then why do the poll format in the first place.
The point of the poll is just to give members an impression of the suggested options and remind them to vote in the comments.

Dark-Kenshin
Valky should have been number #2 honestly, but he gets my vote nonetheless! thumb up

Azronger
Fugg

DarthAnt66
Anakin (9):
DarthAnt66
samappo
Ancient Power
Ursumeles
Geistalt
Rebel95
NewGuy01
LordOfTheLight
Beniboybling

Valkorion (8):
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nephthys
Pessimystic
Trocity
Sinious
Total Warrior
Emperordmb
Dark-Kenshin

Yoda (5):
JKBart
SunRazer
Lord Stark
Azronger
cs_zoltan

UnuThul (1)
The Ellimist

Undecided (1):
The Tempest

Unless Elm, Temp, and another user vote for Yoda, it looks like Valk and Anakin will go into the run-off.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Give Valk an extra vote from LeG. smile

DarthAnt66
While Legend would obviously vote for Valkorion, I don't want to write-in votes for any users, because then we can play the card that Jman would vote for C, Selenial for A, etc.

It only takes a few seconds to vote, so whoever wants to put in input has to give me those few seconds.

That being said, you can obviously PM Legend telling him to vote - or just get Harrison to do it.

Dark-Kenshin
I guess in terms of RAW power, Anakin is better or has the potential to be better or whatever (but that if that's the standard here, he should be tied with Luke for #1). All that Knightfall/Zonakin/Insert-Adjective stuff flies over my head to be honest. confused But Valk's mastery over the force definitely makes him more powerful in my eyes.

cs_zoltan
Don't forget you also have to factor in lightsaber mastery, of which Valky has f-uck all.

Lord Stark
Hmm well I think Yoda is def above KF!Vader...maybe I should change my vote to Valkorion for a decisive victory.

cs_zoltan
Maybe you shouldn't.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He should.

You should.

cs_zoltan
stfu dirty peasant tor wanker

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Hardly wanking to put Valk above Yoda. smile

cs_zoltan
You put that retard over Sidious you putrid c-unt.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Not quite. smile

The Ellimist
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Hardly wanking to put Valk above Yoda. smile

Yoda is both a far more competent combatant and scales above EoTPM Sidious who scales massively above TPM Sidious who is both canonically above sith-Vitiate, and scales above Plagueis who scales above pre-self-midichlorian-boosting Plagueis who presents a sufficient threat to the Force that Anakin Skywalker was created to stop them, and that Plagueis scales thirty successive power boosts over Darth Bane. Who as a trainee scales above sith-Vitiate.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Not quite. smile

Not only a tor wanker but a lying f-uck as well

https://i.imgur.com/3XgHiGS.png

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So Pre-Novel Vitiate? smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Not only a tor wanker but a lying f-uck as well

https://i.imgur.com/3XgHiGS.png

I have them roughly on par. Politics necessitate that I favor Valkorion in such a scenario. smile

The Ellimist
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So Pre-Novel Vitiate? smile

kek

Also: Sidious does a lot of his absurd uber-feats during the dark times so you'd have to just assume he grows like ridiculously stronger between RotS and TFU/before because by then Sidious vs. Valkorion isn't even a contest really (you can line up feats categories and Sidious wins in everything, only rituals are really close).

Lord Stark
Clearly, we need to have a proper debate over KF!Anakin vs. Yoda. PT folks should be more united in this matter.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Clearly, we need to have a proper debate over KF!Anakin vs. Yoda. PT folks should be more united in this matter.

Ant and I were considering doing that yeah.

My stance is that Vader would win a duel but Yoda may win an all-out confrontation depending on the context.

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Politics necessitate that I favor Valkorion in such a scenario. smile

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
putrid c-unt.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
dirty peasant tor wanker

Lord Stark
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ant and I were considering doing that yeah.

My stance is that Vader would win a duel but Yoda may win an all-out confrontation depending on the context.

Fam, switch your vote to Yoda and I'll happily discuss UnuThul.

AncientPower
Switching my vote back to Valkorion. :-)

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
thumb up

Rebel95
I'm actually gonna switch my vote to Valkorion.

DarthAnt66
Valkorion (10):
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nephthys
Pessimystic
Trocity
Sinious
Total Warrior
Emperordmb
Dark-Kenshin
Ancient Power
Rebel95

Anakin (7):
DarthAnt66
samappo
Ursumeles
Geistalt
NewGuy01
LordOfTheLight
Beniboybling

Yoda (5):
JKBart
SunRazer
Lord Stark
Azronger
cs_zoltan

UnuThul (1)
The Ellimist

Undecided (1):
The Tempest

Dark-Kenshin
And that's a wrap. Close it and move on to the next round! thumb up

DarthAnt66
Since a lot of members are changing their votes last-minute, I'll keep it up until approx. 3pm ET tomorrow.

BazookaMaster
Yoda love

|King Joker|
Valkorion.

samappo
Why is everyone switching all of a sudden?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Because Valkorion is supreme.

samappo
Right ...

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
You know it. smile

IZAX is coming, people. Get ready. smile

AncientPower
https://78.media.tumblr.com/d21b62163f529550b35749605118fc8b/tumblr_ocopz4Yv0a1qeiz88o2_400.gif

DarthAnt66
"When Izax spoke, every living thing in the Outer Rim died. The destruction of worlds echoed through the Force, the screams of countless lives."

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
"..Honor the omnipotence of Izax, the Ultimate Devourer: father, ruler and bringer of death to us all. His forms are infinite, but his great glory flies on serpent wings...."

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by The Ellimist
kek

Also: Sidious does a lot of his absurd uber-feats during the dark times so you'd have to just assume he grows like ridiculously stronger between RotS and TFU/before because by then Sidious vs. Valkorion isn't even a contest really (you can line up feats categories and Sidious wins in everything, only rituals are really close).
Even as far as a few months past ROTS, Sidious has already done or scales from anything Valk has as well as tons of stuff Valk doesn't have.

There's no need to speculate about his TFU abilities.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
"..Honor the omnipotence of Izax, the Ultimate Devourer: father, ruler and bringer of death to us all. His forms are infinite, but his great glory flies on serpent wings...."
And then he walked into a lightsaber. smile

AncientPower
That's not Vitiate you imbecile.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by AncientPower
That's not Vitiate you imbecile.

AncientPower
Originally posted by The Ellimist
kek

Also: Sidious does a lot of his absurd uber-feats during the dark times so you'd have to just assume he grows like ridiculously stronger between RotS and TFU/before because by then Sidious vs. Valkorion isn't even a contest really (you can line up feats categories and Sidious wins in everything, only rituals are really close).

laughing out loud

That's not even an argument, just another baseless claim. Valkorion > Sheev isn't even a question anymore, it's just a matter of time.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by AncientPower
laughing out loud

That's not even an argument, just another baseless claim. Valkorion > Sheev isn't even a question anymore, it's just a matter of time.

I mean I wasn't trying to give a rigorous essay but if you really want to break it down by feats, in which relevant categories is Valkorion more impressive than either RotJ or DE Sidious?

Freedon Nadd
Valkorion

HitTheAssasin
Yoda.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Yoda

S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion.

AncientPower
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I mean I wasn't trying to give a rigorous essay but if you really want to break it down by feats, in which relevant categories is Valkorion more impressive than either RotJ or DE Sidious?

- Freezing time.
- Multiple galaxy scale feats.
- Simultaneously dominating Sel-Makor, Vaylin, Revan, the Dread
Masters, the Hero of Tython, Tehrak Morrhage, Tol Braga, Warren Sedoru and more. Whilst empowering the imperial Guard, his Children and the First Son. After being weakened by death and expending massive amounts of energy fueling the galaxy draining Dark Ritual.
- Simultaneously stomping Arcann, Vaylin and the Outlander who
was supported by Satele Shan and the spirits of Revan and Darth
Marr via the Uber Holocron.
- Scaling off of Soa and the Zakuul Pantheon.

Jmanghan
As for the list, it's Valk.

Besides the list, its definitely the Bedlam Spirits.

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.