Champ vs. Superman h2h only

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Facee
Champion has the gem for this one. Superman cannot use flight.

This is h2h only, for Champs belt.

carver9
Champion>>>>>Zod son. He destroys in a couple of punches.

cdtm
Stalemate.

Even with the gem, Drax couldn't beat Thor. They just kept fighting.

Superman is much faster then Champion, so he won't ever get hit. But he won't KO champion either.

This is assuming Champion can't lose the gem in this scenerio.

Damborgson
Thor one shot power gem Drax once actually,

cdtm
Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor one shot power gem Drax once actually,

Blood and Thunder, yes.

Thought Thor made him cough up the gem.

JBL
Champion in a murderous STOMP. Champion 100/10.

carver9
Two times amped Superman vs Zod son...

https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217890_Action_Comics_2016-_996-015.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217891_Action_Comics_2016-_996-016.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217892_Action_Comics_2016-_996-017.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217893_Action_Comics_2016-_996-018.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217894_Action_Comics_2016-_996-019.jpg

leonidas
blind side, so, meh. plus villain intro, so doubly meaningless. rematch will be vastly different and this type of jumping to conclusions is prep's wheelhouse carv, not your usual fare....

JBL
Lol, The excuses starting to flow. Blind side and villain intro??? Those are brand new excuses. WOW!

RealityWarper
Champion will destroy him.

celeyhyga17
Was he even ko'd? He was talking and conscious before last page. Inconclusive..

Plus what Leo said. He was take by surprise somewhat.

Damborgson
Originally posted by cdtm
Blood and Thunder, yes.

Thought Thor made him cough up the gem.

This scene came before that actually!

https://orig00.deviantart.net/02a6/f/2011/365/b/1/thor_vs_drax_the_destroyer_by_chicho234-d4kulwo.jpg

So I think Superman could beat Champion into unconcioussness, he didn't have much control of the gem either.

tkitna
The Champion after fighting Superman

https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/e834679e85f3bb5d87c48b32f70f010d/5B20B1A6/t51.2885-15/e35/21436209_114997865877592_9083721136570630144_n.jpg

h1a8
Speed alone makes this a stomp.
Superman is much stronger in the first few minutes and can ko Champion far before he gets too powerful.

Bfr is also another option.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
Two times amped Superman vs Zod son...

https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217890_Action_Comics_2016-_996-015.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217891_Action_Comics_2016-_996-016.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217892_Action_Comics_2016-_996-017.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217893_Action_Comics_2016-_996-018.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37217894_Action_Comics_2016-_996-019.jpg
Was a cheap shot, no?

JBL
SMH. The power gem increases ALL stats. Supermans speed would be NOTHING to Champion. Superman gets Koed I in the first round VERY quick.

DarkSaint85
What feats does Champion have with the gem?

Serious question, btw. I genuinely am curious,I don't know much about him.

Damborgson
After amping a bit during his fight with Thanos he one shot the planet on accident.

And Thanos admitted that had Champion been more patient he'd have been done.

carver9
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Was a cheap shot, no?

Nano second Superman turned around and seen him coming and said "who" before he got clocked. I wouldn't call that a sneak attack.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
Nano second Superman turned around and seen him coming and said "who" before he got clocked. I wouldn't call that a sneak attack.

Fair enough

We will see next month how the arc concludes. Comics have a funny way of introducing new characters like this. I wouldn't be surprised if next issue Superman recovers and wins...

TheHulkster
Why is Drax being discussed?

TheHulkster
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What feats does Champion have with the gem?

Serious question, btw. I genuinely am curious,I don't know much about him.

http://i36.tinypic.com/14niyph.jpg

DarkSaint85
He one shotted Glads? Nice.

Horrible art, I must say. Has Champ ever displayed skill? Am reading his bio, he sounds like KK on crack lol.

-K-M-
Not a one shot. Can see reflection in spectators face there was another punch. How many did it take? *shrugs* prob not much more I assume

When he removed the gem in his fight with she Hulk (same story champ fought gladiator) he got worked pretty badly. But he is as skilled as how the writer sees fit for a particular issue. In the original contest of champions saw more of his strength and skill

TheHulkster
Originally posted by -K-M-
Not a one shot. Can see reflection in spectators face there was another punch. How many did it take? *shrugs* prob not much more I assume

When he removed the gem in his fight with she Hulk (same story champ fought gladiator) he got worked pretty badly. But he is as skilled as how the writer sees fit for a particular issue. In the original contest of champions saw more of his strength and skill

Yea, they skip away for a while after that page and come back to the one below.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4tsqe6

He does the same to BRB, Surfer, Dumb Drax and She-Hulk in their first fight.

StiltmanFTW
Don't post broken links. Use https://tinyurl.com/.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by -K-M-
Not a one shot. Can see reflection in spectators face there was another punch. How many did it take? *shrugs* prob not much more I assume

I applaud this attention to detail.

clapclap

TheHulkster
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't post broken links. Use https://tinyurl.com/.

I edited. Thanks for the info!

https://tinyurl.com/yc4tsqe6

StiltmanFTW
No problem thumb up

h1a8

Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
Speed alone makes this a stomp.
Superman is much stronger in the first few minutes and can ko Champion far before he gets too powerful.

Bfr is also another option.

I'm actually undecided here, because Gladiator has speed as well, but the Champion was busting him up. On the other hand the Champion has nearly become as big of a jobber as the Rhino. Plus Drax with the Power Gem is a really bad example, he wasn't capable of using the Gem on more than a subconscious level due to his infant like intellect.

Damborgson
I mean neither was Champion though really.

http://berkeleyplaceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/IMG_7990.png

Stoic
Originally posted by Damborgson
I mean neither was Champion though really.

http://berkeleyplaceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/IMG_7990.png

But then he goes and trains Titania how to properly use it though. What are we to believe?

JBL
Champion knows how to use the gem.

h1a8

h1a8

Damborgson
Originally posted by Stoic
But then he goes and trains Titania how to properly use it though. What are we to believe?

When was this? I've seen some scans but they look fairly recent...

DarkSaint85
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/cmx-images-prod/Item/46246/Previews/7d55d229f01e5972a42d03ff86ce98e8._SX1280_QL80_TTD_.jpg

2004

Edit: So does Champion actually know how to fight, beyond 'just' boxing?

Stoic

StiltmanFTW
Much better art here in that recap page thumb up

Stoic
Champ teaches Power Gem 101

https://imgur.com/UpsGHRK

Hope the link works.

DarkSaint85
Am I on ignore laughing out loud

Damborgson
It does! Thanks both of you.

And you might be DS lol.

Stoic
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Am I on ignore laughing out loud

Huh? why'd you ask that?

Stoic
Oh you posted it before I did? Didn't know bro. Am multi tasking.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by JBL
Champion knows how to use the gem.

You embarrass yourself more with each post.

Stoic
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You embarrass yourself more with each post.

You're going to be the Lord of Patterson soon once NYC begins a full scale gentrification of that city... lol.

h1a8
Originally posted by Stoic
Based on what? Because of his run in with Thanos when Thanos played him out? He did instruct Titania in the uses of the Power gem, so if you are an instructor, that means that you kind of know the subject matter no?



In happened in the previous She Hulk run, which was just after She Hulk worked the Champion and she came back so strong that Reed Richards had to give her a Jupiter suit in order for her not to accidentally break shit due to her increased strength level.

She had the strength to easily beat Herc in an arm wrestling match to the point that she didn't even feel him pushing. Titania with the PG was swatting her around like a mouse even at that strength level.

I don't have the scans on hand, perhaps they're on Google, but trust me he instructed her on the use of the PG.

What did he instruct her to do? What did he say that gives instructions on how to use the gem?

Still speed makes this a stomp.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/cmx-images-prod/Item/46246/Previews/7d55d229f01e5972a42d03ff86ce98e8._SX1280_QL80_TTD_.jpg

2004

Edit: So does Champion actually know how to fight, beyond 'just' boxing?

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Stoic
You're going to be the Lord of Patterson soon once NYC begins a full scale gentrification of that city... lol.

I AM AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE LORD OF BROOKLYN!!!

I grant you LOWLY PEASANTS Williamsburg and Bushwick because I am a GENEROUS ruler!!

Stoic
^ Uh yeah... Just found out that you were a potato farmer from Idaho. SMH.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Stoic
^ Uh yeah... Just found out that you were a potato farmer from Idaho. SMH.

DO YOU WANT ME TO DESTROY YOU?!!!

JBL
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You embarrass yourself more with each post. You embarrass yourself each time you fail to understand the scan stoic put up. But we ALL know you don't want to accept the PROOF because of your love for superman-duper-man.

DarkSaint85
What scan did Stoic post mad

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by JBL
You embarrass yourself each time you fail to understand the scan stoic put up. But we ALL know you don't want to accept the PROOF because of your love for superman-duper-man.

What does the scan show?

Champion is instructing an absolute NOVICE on how to use the Power Gem. That doesn't refute the arguments of people who've actually READ Champion's and other wielders of the Power Gems' depictions where it is EXPLICITLY stated that someone "Consciously" tapping into the gem is what would allow maximum use of the object.

Without Champion "Consciously" tapping into the Power Gem he won't beat Superman.

DarkSaint85
I do like how it ends with the Gem surprising Champion.

SquallX

Prof. T.C McAbe
Without the Gem, Superman 10/10, with the gem it depends how deep Champ taps into it.

DarkSaint85
I'm guessing the gem left her for him.

Just as she's struggling to lift that rock.

LordofBrooklyn

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