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Who wins?

Team 2.

Dyspo goes Super Speed Mode to unleash hell on Hit/hold Hit off while Toppo defeats Kefla, tbh.

Team 2

Eh, not sure why everyone thinks Toppo > Kefla. I'm not entirely convinced.

Yep. Kefla > Toppo sadly.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep. Kefla > Toppo sadly.

Yeah, that's how it seems to me as well. Tbh, UI Goku would treat Toppo like a child. Kefla at least gave him somewhat of a challenge.

UI Goku that faced Kefla wouldnt do much against Toppo his attacks would just melt on his hakai aura he could dodge all his attacks and kick him around but he would run out of steam before he could do anything.

Lets face it UI Goku is kinda featless when it comes to attack power.

Kefla's attack wouldnt work on Toppo he would just hakai her into oblivion since she is kinda dumb.

The final flash that Vegeta did against Jiren did more then the spirit bomb Goku launched and that was pre boost Vegeta...and Toppo canceled one from Super Blue Vegeta.

Only reason Vegeta won is cause of the same stupid plot armor Goku uses time and time again.

Toppo wasnt weak everyone was pretty much shocked when he powered up even Jiren was kinda amazed Vegeta was able to beat him.

The problem was that the build up for him was short and he was just fanservice for Vegeta fans.

If you think about it a tired kaioken ssb Goku did more damage to Kefla then UI Goku.

Current SSBKKGoku is roughly equal to AssbVegeta(both should be much stronger then the Goku Kefla faced) who was losing to Toppo badly until the powerup.


The whole thing just seems dumb cause saiyans power just keep bumping like every second.

Current ones would prolly 2 punch their Top begining versions

Kefla has tremendous raw power. She's not beating Toppo though.

The LSSJ thing is kinda old news. Seems like every saiyan evolves on the fly now.

Makes you wonder if Kefla was stronger than SSJB Vegito. It seems like she had a longer time limit to her fusion.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Makes you wonder if Kefla was stronger than SSJB Vegito. It seems like she had a longer time limit to her fusion.

Going by that, it actually pretty much confirms she was weaker.

Eh, Kefla was NOT able to contend with UI Goku on ANY level, tbh. Sure, she took a few of his punches, but those were explicitly stated to be WEAKER than his standard punches because he was putting thought into them(thereby defeating the concept of UI.) Moreover, Goku himself was explicitly stated to be all but powerless when he initially became UI against Kefla, which heavily affected the overall stamina of that form(which is why he could only use a single blast before he was completely spent.) That said, ONE serious blast from UI Goku still took Kefla out of the game in a f*cking decisive fashion... End of story.

Flip side, standard ASSB Vegeta = *current* SSB Goku /w/ KKx20... Which is important, because Goku is FAR more powerful now then he was the first time he fought Jiren in ep. 109-110... Yet Hakaishin Toppo f*cking DEMOLISHED ASSB Vegeta with very little effort. It was only AFTER Vegeta gained a massive emotion-boost that he was able to gain an advantage over Toppo, but that's irrelevant here.

Tbh, there is literally NO reason to think Kefla would stand ANY sort of chance against Hakaishin Toppo -- one decent "Hakai" and it's over, imo(and this is secondary to the fact that her attacks would be completely ineffectual against the destruction energy he is enveloped in.) Realistically, the Hakai-energy would also atomize Kefla's Potara earrings, subsequently defusing her... But I'm assuming that isn't allowed here.

And so long as Dyspo uses his 'ultimate' speed right out of the gate, he could effectively neutralize/incapacitate Hit, nigh-instantly.


Team 2 stomps, is what I'm saying...