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Who wins?

It's effectively the same as pitting Revan vs Bane.

So no one wins.

Nah, Tenebrous's master scales above Bane.


Interesting fight tbh.

But he doesn't have the feats.

Well, Bane with two orbalisks > Bane knocking over the temple.

Bane with a full body or orbalisks >>>>>>>>>>>>> two orbalisk Bane.

DoE Bane > Full body orbalisk Bane.

Tenebrous' Master >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoE Bane.

So he would probably knock the Lehon temple over with a minimum-effort display of power. Not sure Revan can do the same.

Originally posted by ILS
Well, Bane with two orbalisks > Bane knocking over the temple.

Bane with a full body or orbalisks >>>>>>>>>>>>> two orbalisk Bane.

DoE Bane > Full body orbalisk Bane.

Tenebrous' Master >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoE Bane.

So he would probably knock the Lehon temple over with a minimum-effort display of power. Not sure Revan can do the same.
Good points.

It's an interesting fight, as I predicted.

Not sure why Bane scaling isn't brought up more tbh.

Even if you account for the nexuses in Bane's feats, it doesn't have much of an effect on how retardedly weaker he is than the late-Banites. And wasn't he tanking lightsaber blades, ashing people with lightning, and of course knocking down giant temples?

That Temple is also massive.

Indeed. Bane is a very powerful and competent Force user and Tenebrous's master (via scaling) is his clear superior.

Revan will have to be in top shape to win this. mmm

Originally posted by Geistalt
But he doesn't have the feats.

facepalm

TM destroys.

Originally posted by Stigma
Indeed. Bane is a very powerful and competent Force user and Tenebrous's master (via scaling) is his clear superior.

Revan will have to be in top shape to win this. mmm Indeed, and given that Revan has brain damage this seems like a tough argument to make.

Revan stomps.

Revan.

Revan takes this.

By what metric is Revan stronger?

All of them.

Revan, logically should be a solid fight tho.

Originally posted by AncientPower
All of them.

badass

Why is Bane's temple feat being so hyped? Seems a pretty ordinary feat among SW powerhouses.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Why is Bane's temple feat being so hyped? Seems a pretty ordinary feat among SW powerhouses.

SW debating Logic, We go from Tking a building as an amazing arguable feat of power, to something in a different realm of power, such as Tking a black hole, or draining a planet/manipulating stars.

I haven't seen one good refutation to Bane's feat and the subsequent scaling yet. Tenebrous' master could be worth 100 Darth Bane's if we use the orbalisks as a multiplier and then add on like 700 years worth of progressively stronger Sith. That's a lot of destroyed temples.

TM scales well above a dude who can create citadel spanning tk barriers and the apprentice that could beat the aforementioned dude without a lightsaber.

Originally posted by ILS
I haven't seen one good refutation to Bane's feat and the subsequent scaling yet. Tenebrous' master could be worth 100 Darth Bane's if we use the orbalisks as a multiplier and then add on like 700 years worth of progressively stronger Sith. That's a lot of destroyed temples.

Yeah, just two orbalisks put Bane beyond his Lehon temple-busting self. Now imagine him covered in hundreds

Tenebrous's master sounds very powerful tbh.

Can Revan withstand his might (assuming Bane scaling as key)?

No

Yes

Revan's tk feats are non-existent honestly.

Originally posted by ILS
Revan's tk feats are non-existent honestly.
Mhmmm, so what?

Sidious's tk feats pale in comparison to Kyp's, does that mean he is below him in Tk now? **** off, DE Sidious would put Kyp in the dirt.

Pretty sure Revan is the second most powerful Force user of his era, and has scaling from beings that terraform planets.

Originally posted by ILS
I haven't seen one good refutation to Bane's feat and the subsequent scaling yet. Tenebrous' master could be worth 100 Darth Bane's if we use the orbalisks as a multiplier and then add on like 700 years worth of progressively stronger Sith. That's a lot of destroyed temples.

I have no problem with the scaling or people like Gravid or Tenebrous's master being hundreds of times more powerful than Bane.

What I am saying is that Bane's feat itself, at face value, is pretty ordinary when we consider the powerhouses of SW.

TM oneshots.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
I have no problem with the scaling or people like Gravid or Tenebrous's master being hundreds of times more powerful than Bane.

What I am saying is that Bane's feat itself, at face value, is pretty ordinary when we consider the powerhouses of SW.
LOTL gets it.

"Size matters not"-Yoda

Originally posted by ILS
Revan's tk feats are non-existent honestly.

Uh, what?

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This whole 'I am more powerful than you' Banite thing is ludicrous, to be frank. There is no guarantee that the Apprentice grew stronger in Force than the Master(or if the Apprentices really were) or if they became more knowledgeable.
We don't even know what happened to Cognus and Millennial. There is no confirmation she had another apprentice besides Millennial.

You cannot quantify something that you don't know based on some out-of-context or vague 'sources'.

This whole thing is stupid. Rule of Two is stupid.

How are the sources vague or out of context?

Because they are. Not to mention that SW is a universe full of unrestrained creativity. You have a source saying that Banite knowledge was passed; then you have a story with Gravid destroying most of that knowledge. Then you have some other sources that state that old Sith knowledge was lost by the time of TCW.
Then, you have the writer's guilty adommaic ignorance. Instead of being consistent with the lore(barely if these writers have any knowledge of SW lorebooks, e.g: Drew Karpyshyn.)
We act as if the writers are omniscient or omnipresent in the real sense of word.

What he said basically tantamounts to: "The whole Newton formulating and discovering the laws and sciences of gravity and advanced mechanics, integrated with calculus, is ludicrous and pointless. There is no guarantee that Newton did any of this, absolutely any of this at all.

Neither do the well documented records that prove that he did matter, nor do the theories themselves, which have revolutionized the world today, bejeweling our civilization today with continuous achievements throughout history.

The whole thing is stupid. All the theories, rules, and advancements are utterly stupid".

Yeah, I dunno why everyone just doesn't put Freedumb Nadd on ignore

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
What he said basically tantamounts to: "The whole Newton formulating and discovering the laws and sciences of gravity and advanced mechanics, integrated with calculus, is ludicrous and pointless. There is no guarantee that Newton did any of this, absolutely any of this at all.

Neither do the well documented records that prove that he did matter, nor do the theories themselves, which have revolutionized the world today, bejeweling our civilization today with continuous achievements throughout history.

The whole thing is stupid. All the theories, rules, and advancements are utterly stupid".

Those two situations aren't similar at all. Mathematics doesn't work with fiction. It works with real life facts: Something that can be verified, there are no contradictions in mathematics. 1+1=2 always.

Bad, very bad example...

Originally posted by Azronger
Yeah, I dunno why everyone just doesn't put Freedumb Nadd on ignore

Eh, you aren't doing well, either. Except(when it comes about)your support for the Sheev brigade, everyone around here thinks you are wanky and an idiot. If it weren't for your Sheev Brigade, you'd have been in their ignore list a long time ago.

So Banite Sith scaling puts Tenebrous's master above Revan?

Originally posted by Stigma
So Banite Sith scaling puts Tenebrous's master above Revan?

Yeah. Also his feat of penetrating the fabric of the Force.

Tenebrous' Master>Revan? LMAO
We don't even know his feats. This is just like Ragnos' holistic accolades.