Orbalisk Bane vs. SoR Revan (sabers only)

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Stigma
Setting: Tython

Starting distance: 30 feet

* Sabers only fight

Who wins?

Azronger
Bane

Stigma
mmm

What is Revan's most testimonial display of saber prowess?

Freedon Nadd
He bested Malak and a handful of Dark Jedi and Sith Lords on Malak's Star Forge. Oh, and he bested Bastila Shan too.

Stigma
I see. BTW How good is Malak with a saber? Any feats/accolades?

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by Stigma
I see. BTW How good is Malak with a saber? Any feats/accolades?

He was trained as a Jedi Guardian. And these guys put a lot of price on their lightsabre skills.
To depict Malak's lightsabre skills, you have to look at the other characters. For example, Bastila proved capable of dueling the redeemed Revan, Jolee Bindo, and Juhani atop the Temple of the Ancients and emerging relatively unscathed, albeit defeated. Shan also managed to hold her ground against Darth Malak long enough for Revan and Carth Onasi to escape.

DarthAnt66
Shan was beat by Malak in a matter of seconds.

darthbane77
Revan, due to his far superior augmentation. If aug was equalized, I'd favor Bane.

Haschwalth
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JKBart
revan dies in sabers only, but with force powers he would win

Haschwalth
TBH, what actually makes Banes era better duelist's than Revans?
His Era clearly lacked in nearly all departments to Revan's, through KOTOR/SWTOR.
Their knowledge was trash, they barely had any promising force users like swtor/PT eras. Don't even know if their technology would hold up.

JKBart
who said that, kek?

RoT Bane would fall to Revan without orbalisks, but lightsaber-immune armor in a sabers only fight is quite an advantage smile

ares834
Yep.

Revan would take an all out but Bane wins sabers only.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Shan was beat by Malak in a matter of seconds.
We saw how long the fight was?

DarthAnt66
Fight starts here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXlnmBlSac&t=11m29s

Fight ends here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXlnmBlSac&t=11m56s

Well, it could have ended before that, but we know it at least ends by then since your mission logs state Malak has already captured Bastila.

So, 27 seconds maximum. Not bad.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Fight ends here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXlnmBlSac&t=11m56s

Gotcha

Azronger
Do you have any proof Malak ended the contest with his blade rather than by way of the Force, Ant?

Stigma
It is true that Bane's Orbalisk gives him a tremendous advantage, but it can be negated with superior saber technique of his oppponents, I believe.

Stigma
Originally posted by Azronger
Do you have any proof Malak ended the contest with his blade rather than by way of the Force, Ant?
Interesting.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
Do you have any proof Malak ended the contest with his blade rather than by way of the Force, Ant?
If Malak wanted to use the Force, he would instantly incapacitate Bastila like he did to Revan just seconds before and Bastila shortly beforehand. The game constantly notes that Malak can easily defeat both Revan and Bastila combined if he wants to.

Thus, it seems apparent Malak was pissed off that Bastila threw her lightsaber at him (which he was), provoking him to charge at her with his own lightsaber (which he does), rather than, say, slam her against a wall with telekinesis and be done with it.

Malak has a fragile ego. thumb up

Azronger
That doesn't contradict the idea of Malak using it later on. After all, Revan, a foe he easily incapacitated and ragdolled with the Force, bested him in a duel twice in a row on the Leviathan. Malak engaged his former Master with a lightsaber at first, but had to resort to the Force to end the struggle both times. It may have been the same with Bastila - perhaps out of desperation, he was forced to place her in a stasis field as he had done previously.

Malak may actually be that shit. smile

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
That doesn't contradict the idea of Malak using it later on. After all, Revan, a foe he easily incapacitated and ragdolled with the Force, bested him in a duel twice in a row on the Leviathan. Malak engaged his former Master with a lightsaber at first, but had to resort to the Force to end the struggle both times. It may have been the same with Bastila - perhaps out of desperation, he was forced to place her in a stasis field as he had done previously.

Malak may actually be that shit. smile

Eesh.

Malak never loses to Revan in combat on the Leviathan.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If Malak wanted to use the Force, he would instantly incapacitate Bastila like he did to Revan just seconds before and Bastila shortly beforehand. The game constantly notes that Malak can easily defeat both Revan and Bastila combined if he wants to.

Thus, it seems apparent Malak was pissed off that Bastila threw her lightsaber at him (which he was), provoking him to charge at her with his own lightsaber (which he does), rather than, say, slam her against a wall with telekinesis and be done with it.

Malak has a fragile ego. thumb up

It could've easily been the case of Sidious fighting an enraged Maul after Savage's death, where he fights him in a duel first but decides to end it with the Force.

DarthAnt66
Except Sidious disarms Maul in the duel first, lmfao.

Azronger
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Eesh.

Malak never loses to Revan in combat on the Leviathan.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cDWC5o04prA (4:00)

The two clash lightsabers, after which Malak ragdolls Revan and runs away. No need to complicate a simple scene.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Shan was beat by Malak in a matter of seconds. To be fair, Revan HAD to have been holding back.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Except Sidious disarms Maul in the duel first, lmfao.

Not the point

Nephthys
I like how basically every thread now is obviously attempting to lower Revan. Subtle.

The Ellimist
Honestly Neph if you want to redeem Bane, allying with debaters like Tempest and ILS is your best bet smile

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cDWC5o04prA (4:00)

The two clash lightsabers, after which Malak ragdolls Revan and runs away. No need to complicate a simple scene.
The prima guide clarifies Malak was winning.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Jmanghan
To be fair, Revan HAD to have been holding back.
Why?

Azronger
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The prima guide clarifies Malak was winning.

Got a quote?

Freedon Nadd
Is Malak the Dooku of KotOR?

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