Wolverine vs. MCU Killmonger

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carthage
Erik has his nanite suit
Wolverine is Pre-Logan

Josh_Alexander
Until MCU clears the Adamantium vs Vibranium issue this is a pointless thread.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Until MCU clears the Adamantium vs Vibranium issue this is a pointless thread.

Until the MCU clears Adamantium vs. Vibranium Wolverine gets completely beat up by the vastly physically superior BP or Kilmonger.

KingD19
Adamantium hasn't been introduced in the MCU. It has not been mentioned even once. So until it is, Vibranium is stronger.

Silent Master
By feats vibranium is stronger.

Onscreen feats >>>>>>>>>>> speculation based on character statements.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by KingD19
Adamantium hasn't been introduced in the MCU. It has not been mentioned even once. So until it is, Vibranium is stronger.

Until it is, Vibranium remains the strongest metal in the MCU. However, the Adamantium we are talking about is FOX's universe.

So no, Vibranium isn't over Ad.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Until the MCU clears Adamantium vs. Vibranium Wolverine gets completely beat up by the vastly physically superior BP or Kilmonger.

laughing out loud

And based off what exactly is Killmonger physically superior to Wolverine?

John Murdoch
We, the audience, have no on-screen evidence that adamantium can piece vibranium yet.

Since that is the case, current prime Wolverine, whilst having his regeneration and very impressive strength and sometimes incredible sometimes not-so-much durability feats, can't cut it against Eric.

Killmonger for the dub.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by John Murdoch
We, the audience, have no on-screen evidence that adamantium can piece vibranium yet.

Since that is the case, current prime Wolverine, whilst having his regeneration and very impressive strength and sometimes incredible sometimes not-so-much durability feats, can't cut it against Eric.

Killmonger for the dub.

I agree entirely.

Until Phase 4 introduces the X Men, the answer of which metal is stronger will remain unknown...atleast for the MCU.

Nephthys
If Killmonger doesn't have any weapons he doesn't really have any way of putting Logan down imo. Logan in contrast may just need one good stab.

KingD19
Originally posted by Nephthys
If Killmonger doesn't have any weapons he doesn't really have any way of putting Logan down imo. Logan in contrast may just need one good stab.

A massive war rhino with vibranium armor knocked Panther a huge distance and put a dent in his suit, but couldn't penetrate it. Logan's claws won't get through.

Nephthys
Wolverines claws are sharper than a rhino's horn, even one armored in vibranium. Its blunt trauma vs piercing.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Until it is, Vibranium remains the strongest metal in the MCU. However, the Adamantium we are talking about is FOX's universe.

So no, Vibranium isn't over Ad.

Vibranium has better feats, Thus it's better.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Vibranium has better feats, Thus it's better.

We've debated this several times Silent, and you have been unable to give me a single feat that puts Vib over Ad.

Do you have one now?

BruceSkywalker
Killmonger takes care of business

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We've debated this several times Silent, and you have been unable to give me a single feat that puts Vib over Ad.

Do you have one now?

Cap's shield survived a charged hammer strike from Thor without even getting a dent. Does adamantium have an equal feat?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We've debated this several times Silent, and you have been unable to give me a single feat that puts Vib over Ad.

Do you have one now?

Sure I have, withstanding a charged hammer strike from Thor without any damage is far better than any feats movie adamantium has.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure I have, withstanding a charged hammer strike from Thor without any damage is far better than any feats movie adamantium has.

Irrelevant feat compared to getting punched by the Juggernaut, or receiving blasts from Cyclops and the X 13.

So, again, Vib ain't> Ad.

Silent Master
Charged hammer strike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punch from Juggernaut or blast from Cyclops.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Charged hammer strike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punch from Juggernaut or blast from Cyclops.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Your opinion is respected.

Silent Master
Seeing as it's the truth, it should be respected.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as it's the truth, it should be respected.

Your opinion is respected.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
laughing out loud

And based off what exactly is Killmonger physically superior to Wolverine?

The fact that he can physically match BP. You know, the guy who runs as fast as cars and can outwrestle a rhino?

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that he can physically match BP. You know, the guy who runs as fast as cars and can outwrestle a rhino?

He also tipped a car and kept it balanced on its side during a turn when they had the chase with Klaw.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that he can physically match BP. You know, the guy who runs as fast as cars and can outwrestle a rhino?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4HPKgyAyc

https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/average-weight-for-men

A rhino weights arround 1000kg - 2000 kg.

It required easily more than 30 men AND a poisoned arrow to stop him. The average man weights 75kg.

A bit of math counters your statement.

Wolverine and BP operate around perhaps the same level of strength. But featwise Wolverine's ninja scene gives him the edge.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4HPKgyAyc

https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/average-weight-for-men

A rhino weights arround 1000kg - 2000 kg.

It required easily more than 30 men AND a poisoned arrow to stop him. The average man weights 75kg.

A bit of math counters your statement.

Wolverine and BP operate around perhaps the same level of strength. But featwise Wolverine's ninja scene gives him the edge.

FFS, not this crap again. Wolverine never pulled 30 men. They shot him with arrows with strings but never pulled back on them with all their weight. All you need is a bit of common sense: a 75 kg. man putting all his weight on an arrow would end up pulling that arrow free off of Wolverine's back. Wolverine's muscle and tissue are not made of cement you know.

Wolverine has no strength feats that put him in the league of supersoldiers like Cap, BP and yes, Kilmonger.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
FFS, not this crap again. Wolverine never pulled 30 men. They shot him with arrows with strings but never pulled back on them with all their weight. All you need is a bit of common sense: a 75 kg. man putting all his weight on an arrow would end up pulling that arrow free off of Wolverine's back. Wolverine's muscle and tissue are not made of cement you know.

Wolverine has no strength feats that put him in the league of supersoldiers like Cap, BP and yes, Kilmonger.

I didn't saw loose strings in Wolverine's back. The strings were tense, which means they were putting force!

Also I just took the weight of the men and didn't add the actual force of each one.

WHAT!!!? Black Panther has no feat to put him in par with Cap strength-wise!

Black Panther ATM is a 5tonner just like Wolv.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I didn't saw loose strings in Wolverine's back. The strings were tense, which means they were putting force!

Also I just took the weight of the men and didn't add the actual force of each one.

WHAT!!!? Black Panther has no feat to put him in par with Cap strength-wise!

Black Panther ATM is a 5tonner just like Wolv.

I could easily keep a string taught without putting my entire weight on it. Common sense dude. Bottom line is, if a grown man put all of his weight against an arrow embedded on a man's torso, that would pretty much rip the arrow right off. Heck, unless an arrow gets stuck in bone, you can pull it out with one hand.

In the end, you have no idea how much each man was pulling against Wolverine in this scene, thus you can't accurately use this to compute how strong Wolverine is.

In comparison, the fact that Bucky was unable to stop BP's claws from inching towards his face when they fought shows that BP is at least as strong as Bucky if not stronger. That puts him in Cap's ballpark as far as strength goes. As far as agility goes, neither Cap nor Bucky (and especially not Wolverine) can match his feat of jumping and running across the side of building to catch up to a car.

Arachnid1
Wolverine is honestly one of the lowest tiers of super powered beings. He cant compete with people like Cap or Killmonger. Spite thread

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Wolverine is honestly one of the lowest tiers of super powered beings. He cant compete with people like Cap or Killmonger. Spite thread

lol a certain poster here claimed that Fox Logan's physical strength matches that of MCU Thor.

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