Let's say T'Challa agreed on conquering the world. How would he fare?

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Josh_Alexander
For some reason T'Challa teams up with Killmonger to conquer the world.

How would he fare?

R1: Just the world's armies (USA, Rusia, etc). Shield technology included too.
R2: Meta Humans Involved: Guys like Luke Cage, Daredevil, Daisy, etc.
R3. The Avangers interfere (Avangers 1).

SquallX

TheLordofMurder
Avengers Josh...

AVENGERS!!!!

ares834
Solely based on what we saw, honestly, they should have no chance.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Avengers Josh...

AVENGERS!!!!

I placed several scenarios each harder than the below. Just to see how would the Wakandians fare.

Obviously i know that they will lose against the Av, but by how much?

h1a8
He couldn't do it. It would be impossible.

KingD19
He makes it to Round 3 without too much hassle. Hulk and Thor are serious obstacles though that he may not be able to overcome. Unless they just spam those spear blasters. According to Killmonger a single one had enough power to destroy a tank and they had "thousands of em'". If a barrage from some chitauri flyers had Hulk on the defensive, a bunch of tank killing energy blasts from a few dozen Wakandans would do some serious damage imo. Same goes for Thor.

Blindside12
Worlds armies would be enough, nothing Wakanda has suggests they can withstand nukes.

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
Worlds armies would be enough, nothing Wakanda has suggests they can withstand nukes.

Nothing suggest the world armies can even find Wakanda. Because up until the events of Black Panther, literally, the entire world thought it was a third world nation of farmers and textilers. Not the most advanced country on the planet with tech decades if not at least a century beyond what we see from the rest of the world.

Also like it was pointed out, Wakanda has multiple spies in every country and every government. He does not have to go guns blazing to win, but he'd still win if he went guns blazing because they have overwhelming tech, overwhelming firepower, and most importantly, complete safety as they are 100% hidden from the world.

Blindside12
SO your saying shield has no idea about wakanda, what it does, where it is, or about its vibranium?

Blindside12
Also, Bucky and Captain America both know where Wakanda is.

SquallX

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
SO your saying shield has no idea about wakanda, what it does, where it is, or about its vibranium?

That's exactly what I'm saying. During the Sokovia talks, no one knew King T'Chaka was Black Panther, or that T'Challa was going to succeed him. No one even knew T'Challa was in the suit when he chased Bucky down. If SHIELD knew about the Vibranium and how valuable it was, they would've at least approached Wakanda to try and make a deal. Instead they just left a literal mountain of the most valuable and powerful metal on Earth right where it is?

Up until the end of Black Panther, even though the world knew Wakanda was a place, they had no idea about the tech until T'Challa allowed the science programs and such to start. Because Agent Ross, a high ranking CIA operative had no idea what Wakanda really was until he woke up on a recovery table surrounded by tech and Vibranium.

Originally posted by Blindside12
Also, Bucky and Captain America both know where Wakanda is.

Okay? So? Bucky's been a HYDRA assassin for a couple decades, and Cap has quit SHIELD and the Avengers at this point as he went rogue. Neither of them work for the armies/government. And T'Challa brought them to Wakanda himself. They didn't just find it. So what's your point? And plenty of people know where Wakanda is. They just don't know the real Wakanda is behind an invisible force dome.

Blindside12
And Cap would'nt come back to defend the world from a Wakanda takeover? If you say no, then you dont know who Rogers is.

Btw, you are way to into this.

Blindside12

Blindside12

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
And Cap would'nt come back to defend the world from a Wakanda takeover? If you say no, then you dont know who Rogers is.

Btw, you are way to into this.

Well during Round 3 when the Avengers are allowed, then yeah Cap can show up. Until then though in Round 1 and 2 where he's not at, then he has nothing to do with this. As SHIELD/Avengers were beholden to no government and were basically charged with keeping the world safe from anything the regular gov/armies couldn't. And they had basically unlimited authority until the Sokovia Accords.


Not too into it. Just debating you and showing why you're wrong.

Blindside12
I'm not wrong, your assuming no one would ever find out where Wakanda is while they are waging war on the world, that's preposterous thinking.

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
I'm not wrong, your assuming no one would ever find out where Wakanda is while they are waging war on the world, that's preposterous thinking.

Okay. So the country with multiple spies in every country and every government in the world. Who has convinced the entire world they are a third world nation of farmers and textilers. Who have a massive city hidden by an invisible force field that has been there for at least several hundred years as no one has ever flown over Africa and seen the city of Wakanda, so it had to have been active since the rest of the world got intercontinental air travel. However Shuri said they were extremely beyond anything else on the world so that's not too farfetched.

What you're suggesting is that a Warrior-King trained in tactics, war, diplomacy, strategy, etc... for his entire life is going to let the kingdom that's been hidden for thousands of years suddenly be discovered? You're actually dead wrong if you think they'll be discovered when it hasn't happened yet specifically because of how careful they are.

You realize every ship has stealth tech right? Invisible ships flying out of an invisible dome and unlimited range. They could stealth bomb every major nation and no one would know what the hell happened.

Blindside12
Spies with no feats of doing anything whatsoever are the basis for your enite thesis

All of shield ships are stealth.

As if Nick Fury wouldn't be able to fight Wakanda.

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
Spies with no feats of doing anything whatsoever are the basis for your enite thesis

Spies that the main villain who had extensive knowledge of how Wakanda works said could help revolutionize the entire world. Why would he lie when it was his plan to put them to work?

But let's use your logic. Your entire thesis is based on Wakanda suddenly being found by tech that is decades if not a century or more behind Wakandan tech(so they can't find them through technological means).

By T'Challa screwing up and just revealing the location.

And by the Wakandan's just being idiots.

Blindside12
List the spies feats

Wakanda never waged war on anyone so no governments had any real reason to invade their country and they were apart of the U.N. I doubt the U.N. was going to approve of other nations trying to invade Wakanda for reasons.

Blindside12
Oh and lol on shield tech being decades behind wakandas. How many cloaked helicarriers does Wakanda Command?

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
Oh and lol on shield tech being decades behind wakandas. How many cloaked helicarriers does Wakanda Command?

None, as Wakanda doesn't have Hellicarriers. It is however a massive city behind a 100% effective cloak. See the hellicarriers have "reflective paneling" that makes them invisible to an extent from a certain distance below them. Wakanda's is so good you could walk right up to it and not know it's there.

KingD19
Originally posted by Blindside12
List the spies feats

Wakanda never waged war on anyone so no governments had any real reason to invade their country and they were apart of the U.N. I doubt the U.N. was going to approve of other nations trying to invade Wakanda for reasons.

You realize the "Country" of Wakanda that the world sees is a third world fake, right? The entire world thinks they're and I quote, "A third world country of farmers and textilers". Even if they invade Wakanda, they wouldn't get near the city. They'd just find a bunch of huts and regular buildings outside the forcefield.

Blindside12
And I'm sure it would never be found out while they are waging war on the enite world with spies with no feats.

relentless1
Tony and Cap spoke about Wakanda and the vibranium within it as if they knew more than the others as far back as Age of Ultron so at the very least Tony, his dad and Cap; possibly Nick Fury knew more about Wakanda than most but even they weren't aware of the Black Panther.

Having said that, with SHIELDs backing I think the armies of the world would be a pretty tough challenge for Waknada, remember that SHIELD and the US army had access to Stark tech which is no slouch weaponry in its own right; enough to cause the Hulk a bit of trouble so yeah, Wakanda isn't getting past Earths defences without a very good fight.

Blindside12
This thread was basically made to super wank Wakanda. Didn't work out so well

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