TP Resistance. Who has it, who's strongest?

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riv6672
Was reading a thread that pointed out that when the plot requires, -no- character has TP resistance.
Earth (both MU & DC) has been taken over way too many times for TP resistance to be 100%.
Still, who's most consistent at having it/who's able to resist TP better than most is the question.

https://foxsuperpowerlist.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/mind-control-resistance-quentin-quire-captain-america-ax-4-2013.jpg

"Id"
Originally posted by riv6672
Was reading a thread that pointed out that when the plot requires, -no- character has TP resistance.
Earth (both MU & DC) has been taken over way too many times for TP resistance to be 100%.
Still, who's most consistent at having it/who's able to resist TP better than most is the question.

https://foxsuperpowerlist.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/mind-control-resistance-quentin-quire-captain-america-ax-4-2013.jpg

What comic is that from?

riv6672
A+X 4, i believe.

deathslash
Snake eyes and stormshadow have arguably the best to resistance feat in all of comics.

krisblaze
Red Skull couldn't even touch Cap in Uncanny Avengers.

xJLxKing
Is this only related to Marvel or nth DC and marvel

Galan007
Kuurth came to mind:
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620971_17.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620973_18.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620974_19.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620975_20.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620976_23.jpg


Mind you, Emma was also using Cerebra there, which amps her psychic abilities to the tenth power:
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620977_New_X-Men_v1_114-005.jpg

"Id"

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Galan007


Mind you, Emma was also using Cerebra there, which amps her psychic abilities to the tenth power:
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37620977_New_X-Men_v1_114-005.jpg

Is that Prof X? And why don't he have any earlobes?

Genii96
Magneto is quite consistent In TP department

leonidas
Originally posted by deathslash
Snake eyes and stormshadow have arguably the best to resistance feat in all of comics.

huh? how do you figure that....?

SquallX

riv6672
Originally posted by deathslash
Snake eyes and stormshadow have arguably the best to resistance feat in all of comics.
Really??
How so?

One Big Mob
Originally posted by deathslash
Snake eyes and stormshadow have arguably the best to resistance feat in all of comics. Agreed. Without question too

Mindset
Doom.

riv6672
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Agreed. Without question too
How so?

One Big Mob
Originally posted by riv6672
How so? SlashingDeath can explain it much more in depth than me since he's the one who showed me it. Wouldn't want to steal his thunder. Just be sure to hold onto your butt next time you see him post, it's a doozy.

deathslash
Originally posted by leonidas
huh? how do you figure that....? G.I Joe Infestation 2 issue #2. Snake Eyes and Stormshadow both resisted being mind controlled/mutated by the Old Ones. According to the solicitations from IDW, these are confirmed to be the very same Old Ones from the H.P. Lovecraft mythos. These very same Old Ones are so powerful that they created humanity without even knowing it, humans literally die/become crazy just from looking at them, they're immortal, etc.

http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/idw-infestation-2-gi-joe-2/Infestation2_GIJoe_02-Preview-3.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/a/F1iyw

I accidentally uploaded that backwards, so read the last panel first and go up from there. embarrasment

Btw, even the Old Ones were impressed with Snake Eyes and even expressed how much they wish he was on their side.

One Big Mob
*ta da*
http://i67.tinypic.com/241p7uu.jpg


Way to end the thread death

deathslash
Originally posted by One Big Mob
*ta da*
http://i67.tinypic.com/241p7uu.jpg


Way to end the thread death laughing out loud I missed this portion of our conversations. Glad to have you back. love

Philosophía
Superman.

Unironically. He has better telepathy resistance showings than high-end telepaths.

RealityWarper
Sentry. Even the strongest telepaths cannot enter inside his mind without his acknowldgement.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23992/4603405-sentrydarknessagents-of-atlas-003-pg-22.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23992/4603400-sentrytpvsemma%26xavier13915129-2652123765-21805.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23992/4603401-sentrytpvsxavier%26emma23915130-6120110379-21805.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23992/4603404-emmafrostasktoenterbob%27sminduntitled-scanned-08.jpg

One Big Mob

xJLxKing
That JBL example makes a lot of sense

I agree, Superman TP Resistance is pretty insane. Recently, he was able to what seems like it go completely unfazed by Hammond while Hal Jordan required help to really snap out of it

Philosophía
Originally posted by One Big Mob
In their defense tp users fight kind of weird.

TP resist acts like their offensive power when they fight one another. If you can beat another, you overpowered them. For non tp users, it's treated as durability. If your tp resistance is good, you're basically invulnerable from it. And it's basically like the tp user ramming into a wall at high speed and knocking themselves out.

Imagine if you had a JBL tier telepath fighting say Martian Manhunter for example in a mental battle. But the JBL character also had Juggernaut's helmet level of tp defense. You'd have JBL penis pecking at MM like he does on the forum, while MM can't do shit. He'd probably end up winning too. You can't have that in comics, it makes him seem like a better telepath. So they just go like they do.

I don't even know if I'm making sense anymore. Yeah, case in point - Despero.

Telepathically, he beat both Martian Manhunter and Aquaman simultaneously.

When he tried to do the same to Superman, he was resisting, and grappling.

It's kind of like, telepaths when they fight, they arm-wrestle.

But when they fight non-telepaths, the other guy holds their hand for a while and shoots them with a gun from under the table.

If I'm not making any sense either, it's because I'm hypnotized from your Darth Maul sig.

Thanks for the endorsement.

One Big Mob

riv6672
Originally posted by deathslash
G.I Joe Infestation 2 issue #2. Snake Eyes and Stormshadow both resisted being mind controlled/mutated by the Old Ones. According to the solicitations from IDW, these are confirmed to be the very same Old Ones from the H.P. Lovecraft mythos. These very same Old Ones are so powerful that they created humanity without even knowing it, humans literally die/become crazy just from looking at them, they're immortal, etc.

http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/idw-infestation-2-gi-joe-2/Infestation2_GIJoe_02-Preview-3.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/a/F1iyw

I accidentally uploaded that backwards, so read the last panel first and go up from there. embarrasment

Btw, even the Old Ones were impressed with Snake Eyes and even expressed how much they wish he was on their side.
Okay, thats a doozy! eek!

darthgoober
In DC it's probably Wonder Woman, in Marvel it's probably Sage(assuming she's got her reflective mental block up).

leonidas
Originally posted by deathslash
G.I Joe Infestation 2 issue #2. Snake Eyes and Stormshadow both resisted being mind controlled/mutated by the Old Ones. According to the solicitations from IDW, these are confirmed to be the very same Old Ones from the H.P. Lovecraft mythos. These very same Old Ones are so powerful that they created humanity without even knowing it, humans literally die/become crazy just from looking at them, they're immortal, etc.

http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/idw-infestation-2-gi-joe-2/Infestation2_GIJoe_02-Preview-3.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/a/F1iyw

I accidentally uploaded that backwards, so read the last panel first and go up from there. embarrasment

Btw, even the Old Ones were impressed with Snake Eyes and even expressed how much they wish he was on their side.

confused

kinda cool i guess, but we have no basis of comparison regarding the power of these old ones. at best it's unquantifiable. and solicitations really don't make for the most compelling evidence. we've also seen both snake and storm shadow brainwashed (multiple times) in the past, soooo... /shrug

until we see these old ones manhandling high level telepaths, the best we can say is it's kind of a cool feat.

and yeah phil, i agree--it's superman. and it's not really even very close imo.

deathslash
Originally posted by leonidas
confused

kinda cool i guess, but we have no basis of comparison regarding the power of these old ones. at best it's unquantifiable. and solicitations really don't make for the most compelling evidence. we've also seen both snake and storm shadow brainwashed (multiple times) in the past, soooo... /shrug

until we see these old ones manhandling high level telepaths, the best we can say is it's kind of a cool feat.

and yeah phil, i agree--it's superman. and it's not really even very close imo. erm the old ones were literally capable of creating life as a byproduct of them just living. They are capable of twisting and bending reality to their will without even using their power. Cthulhu alone guarantees that even death itself will be no more when he awakens from his slumber. He's also explicitly stated to be planetary level (at the least) in telepathy. They are also confirmed to be multiversal in nature. They don't have physical bodies; they're concepts.

With just a single small gateway opened, all of the Cobra soldiers that could hear the call of the Old Ones were mutated and became immortal. It was even confirmed in that very same comic that they were regenerating from wounds that should have killed them with ease. It was later revealed by crystal ball (Cobra member) that the doctor that was possessed by the Old Ones had only opened a small portal for their powers to leak through.

abhilegend
Originally posted by darthgoober
In DC it's probably Wonder Woman, in Marvel it's probably Sage(assuming she's got her reflective mental block up).
Superman has shown better TP defense than Diana many times. One instance against Max Lord who took years to control Superman doesn't changes that.

darthgoober
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has shown better TP defense than Diana many times. One instance against Max Lord who took years to control Superman doesn't changes that.
I'm not saying that there aren't showings when he appears better, but "at her best" unless I'm mistaken Diana is supposed to be immune while "at his best" Supes is supposed to be really resistant. So both at their best, Diana should be better in this particular regard. Unless of course that I heard wrong about her supposed immunity in some showings which could obviously change things(I'm no Diana expert).

abhilegend
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not saying that there aren't showings when he appears better, but "at her best" unless I'm mistaken Diana is supposed to be immune while "at his best" Supes is supposed to be really resistant. So both at their best, Diana should be better in this particular regard. Unless of course that I heard wrong about her supposed immunity in some showings which could obviously change things(I'm no Diana expert).
Wonder Woman was never stated or shown to be immune from TP.

darthgoober
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wonder Woman was never stated or shown to be immune from TP.
Hey it's very possible that that her immunity has been misrepresented over the years, I was speaking purely from the standpoint of it being true.

riv6672
^^^that doesnt fly when Supes is in the equation.

But yeah, Supes is surprisingly resilient.

https://precinct1313.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/wondy-v-supes.jpg

leonidas
Originally posted by deathslash
erm the old ones were literally capable of creating life as a byproduct of them just living. They are capable of twisting and bending reality to their will without even using their power. Cthulhu alone guarantees that even death itself will be no more when he awakens from his slumber. He's also explicitly stated to be planetary level (at the least) in telepathy. They are also confirmed to be multiversal in nature. They don't have physical bodies; they're concepts.

With just a single small gateway opened, all of the Cobra soldiers that could hear the call of the Old Ones were mutated and became immortal. It was even confirmed in that very same comic that they were regenerating from wounds that should have killed them with ease. It was later revealed by crystal ball (Cobra member) that the doctor that was possessed by the Old Ones had only opened a small portal for their powers to leak through.

i'm not going to debate this with you because you don't have a leg to stand on. i mean it's not like se and ss were even the only ones able to resist the call:

https://imgur.com/a/cpOqv

so, does the interrogator also have the best resistance in comics? crystal ball? erm

storm shadow explained he is immune because he 'trained his mind'. every member of the x-men for example has gone through INTENSE mind training by beings who ACTUALLY have some of the best telepathic feats in comics. again, this showing is sort of cool, but trying to pass it off as "arguably the best resistance feat in comics" as you did is.... blink

One Big Mob
That's pretty ignorant Leo, Deathslash is a double leg amputee from Iraq. Show some respect erm

They should call you BO because your arguments are full of filth and stink

leonidas
sweet. ima challenge him to a potato sack race next. thumb up

One Big Mob
You need Deo for your BO bud, because you're just radiating a bad stench

leonidas
you make me sad. sad

One Big Mob
Sometimes we lash out at the ones we love the most. sad

cdtm
All New Gods are completely immune to Martian level telepathy.

And before someone brings it up, Maxima taking down Orion with TP happened before Ostanders series. AND, it goes against an earlier story where Scott Free claims all Hunger Dogs are conditioned to resist telepathy below Darkseids own (And since Apokolips and New Genesis are at war and mind control is a great advantage, presumably such conditioning is common among all New Gods.)

leonidas
bran loves me. all is forgiven. love

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