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https://i.imgur.com/PE7FIRu.jpg

Looks more like old Zod.

Bill goes cosmic.

Nuff said.

Zod breaks bill in half.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bill goes cosmic.

Nuff said.
Before or after Zod breaks him in half?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Before or after Zod breaks him in half? if you're gonna post, at least do us the favor of not double posting.

Bill 8/10.

Originally posted by deathslash
if you're gonna post, at least do us the favor of not double posting.



Savage.

Originally posted by deathslash
if you're gonna post, at least do us the favor of not double posting.
I'd like you to not post at all but alas. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Savage.
Just like Zod is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'd like you to not post at all but alas.
Just like Zod is.

keep hating.

Bojack Horseman still wins btw.

This version of Zod will

in the past i've given them a 50/50 but current Kryptonians seems to be pretty insane

Zod beats both Bill and Thor at once.

This is a non-fight.

Originally posted by deathslash
keep hating.

Bojack Horseman still wins btw.
Yeah right. Because you're worth hating.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'd like you to not post at all but alas.
Just like Zod is.



Tbh, Bill doesn't even need Stormbreaker. He can put the hammer down, and just own Zod with his full reactor power before he melts down.

Zod with ease.
Speed, strength, durability, etc. Speed mostly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tbh, Bill doesn't even need Stormbreaker. He can put the hammer down, and just own Zod with his full reactor power before he melts down.
Zod is not a pussy like Surfer or Stardust who get destroyed by random alien spaceships . He will destroy Bill with or without hammer.

Bill ground and pounds him.

Originally posted by "Id"
Bill ground and pounds him.
Based on?

zod easily

Bills destroy him.

Zod's that powerful, huh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Zod is not a pussy like Surfer or Stardust who get destroyed by random alien spaceships . He will destroy Bill with or without hammer.

Still tougher than a magic vegetable and a whistle combo.

Yeah the whistle....

Too bad Zod is much faster that street level heroes like a Wolverine. Both Thor and Beta will be choking on their own Hammer before they get a chance to whistle

I pretty much know which member is gonna choose which character, it has become an algorithm at this point

can someone exolplain to me what old man zod did that was impressive? he and his family kinda got rolled by supes solo iirc

Naah, Supes haven't beaten him yet. Zoe has actually been looking good against Superman and every other person he's faced. He just recently koed him with a single punch and then he stomped Lantern as if he was nothing. He stood in one spot while Superman pounded on him and was smiling... did good against a group of hero's while half of his brain was hanging out of his head. He's a beast but so is bill. Once Wonder Woman shows up, she will end all of this.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, Supes haven't beaten him yet. Zoe has actually been looking good against Superman and every other person he's faced. He just recently koed him with a single punch and then he stomped Lantern as if he was nothing. He stood in one spot while Superman pounded on him and was smiling... did good against a group of hero's while half of his brain was hanging out of his head. He's a beast but so is bill. Once Wonder Woman shows up, she will end all of this.

wait are we talking about current in continuity zod or the one depicted in the op?

Originally posted by Facee
And this is why kmc has become a shit hole. Because of biased, weird phucks like this.

Dam if only I could beat your brains in.

you are the only biased weird phuck here son

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Still tougher than a magic vegetable and a whistle combo.
Still tougher than a random bullet. And even there Superman is to strength what Flash is to speed.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gNA2AfRJ25Q/Wp-vZwlEabI/AAAAAAAA9Fs/6IVAZm5XNCU0aX_TjiML8-kAEiw0TctRQCLcBGAs/s1600/016_0020.jpg

You're acting like King's Batman wouldn't lift mjolnir and shove it up Thor's ass.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, Supes haven't beaten him yet. Zoe has actually been looking good against Superman and every other person he's faced. He just recently koed him with a single punch and then he stomped Lantern as if he was nothing. He stood in one spot while Superman pounded on him and was smiling... did good against a group of hero's while half of his brain was hanging out of his head. He's a beast but so is bill. Once Wonder Woman shows up, she will end all of this.


Where did Zod koed Superman carter? Zod koed Supergirl (equal to Diana) in one punch. He will ruin wonder woman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Still tougher than a random bullet. And even there Superman is to strength what Flash is to speed.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gNA2AfRJ25Q/Wp-vZwlEabI/AAAAAAAA9Fs/6IVAZm5XNCU0aX_TjiML8-kAEiw0TctRQCLcBGAs/s1600/016_0020.jpg

You're acting like King's Batman wouldn't lift mjolnir and shove it up Thor's ass.

No, he's really not. Batman took Superman out by whistling. It's the saddest shit I've ever seen.

You need speed you use Flash Catwoman and if you need strength you use Superman. This really changes Superman being a pathetic piece of shit who was taken out by a whistle.

A whistle!

Congrats to Superman for being the strongman of the Justice League. He's superior to Aquaman and Cyborg officially.

If the Anti-Monitor ever returns and kills everyone, maybe Batman will spend a few hundred million years becoming Worthy, in order to defeat him.

She has 4 phds in neurology?

Seems a bit excessive

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, he's really not. Batman took Superman out by whistling. It's the saddest shit I've ever seen.

You're a Thor fan. It's really hard for any character to top that level of sad shit.

It works if you can read at least. But hey Vision took out Jane Thor (far superior to Betason) in one punch under King.

One punch. At least Superman kills the titular character in his own book with one punch.



Good thing is that marvel decided that he was stronger than Thor a decade earlier, eh?

What for? Batman doesn't need a pathetic weapon like mjolnir which was caught by Superman like the pathetic shit it is. All he needs is his own whistle.

Not sure why peeps are bringing Bats into this. We all know he'd stomp Zod, BRB, Thor and Superman all at once, using his recent showing is hardly proof.

All he needs for Thor is a bullet after all.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111216019/4655833-4481041-blackpanther08p12.jpg

For BRB, empty gun is Suffice. Even the horse knows to block bullets.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t1Gr9t1lxaM/WeVNrzM15oI/AAAAAAAAFWo/Ay1vMithwQIN4BnqQhNMUFWub1JA7byLACHMYCw/s1600/RCO007.jpg

You can also use a boat mast don't forget that!

Originally posted by Sin I AM
wait are we talking about current in continuity zod or the one depicted in the op?

Originally posted by Facee
And this is why kmc has become a shit hole. Because of biased, weird phucks like this.

Dam if only I could beat your brains in. I can let you suck my c*ck, if that would make you feel better.

<3

New Zod 10/10, he is rather in the trans tier compared to Bill.

that shirt doesnt even make sense

failed attempt at humor

Originally posted by abhilegend
All he needs for Thor is a bullet after all.

For BRB, empty gun is Suffice. Even the horse knows to block bullets.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t1Gr9t1lxaM/WeVNrzM15oI/AAAAAAAAFWo/Ay1vMithwQIN4BnqQhNMUFWub1JA7byLACHMYCw/s1600/RCO007.jpg

A bullet (Potentially a vibranium one) is still more impressive than a whistle.

Also, I know you are borderline retarded, but Beta Ray Bill is shielding Donald Blake and the mortals....so I don't understand the point of that particular scan.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A bullet (Potentially a vibranium one) is still more impressive than a whistle.

No, because it is taking advantage of his superhearing to overwhelm human Poison Ivy. It's not usable against Superman himself.

Thor just gets penetrated like always.

Who cares about context, right? So whistles and bullets? How about that wooden mast?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, because it is taking advantage of his superhearing to overwhelm human Poison Ivy. It's not usable against Superman himself.

Thor just gets penetrated like always.

Who cares about context, right? So whistles and bullets? How about that wooden mast?

Ivy was in the control seat, it was Superman's body. Don't fool yourself.

That was super duper ghey.

Okay, at least you aren't completely retarded.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ivy was in the control seat, it was Superman's body. Don't fool yourself.

That was super duper ghey.

Okay, at least you aren't completely retarded.
Ivys brain was overwhelmed. Superman's body wasn't.

Going with Bill for the strong majority

Reason?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Reason?

Zod wasnt really impressive versus Superman and Gold. Plus he had help and the himefield advantage

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Zod wasnt really impressive versus Superman and Gold. Plus he had help and the himefield advantage
How so? Zod was punched once and then Booster used kryptonite against him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How so? Zod was punched once and then Booster used kryptonite against him.


3 elite kryptonians and a baby zod vs clark, gold and skeets...that was a pathetic display

Originally posted by Sin I AM
3 elite kryptonians and a baby zod vs clark, gold and skeets...that was a pathetic display
How so? Eradicator walked through Booster and koed Superman. He was only defeated when Skeet hacked through Eradicator's robots.

Superman beating down Lor and Ursa only shows how powerful he is.

Bill looked far less Impressive against Nova and Silver Surfer.

But I guess Zod needs to validate his feats every week unlike marvel characters.

Jfc

Listen to yourself abhi

Listen to what?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Cock isn't bleeped. This is what your post looks like with the self censoring
It's like saying "the N word". I put it in your mind, without actually spelling it.

It's the closest I'll get to gently rubbing my cock on your scalp.

I wonder how people in here would be reacting if Zod had Bills fts. Half of the forum went crazy when they "thought" Superman withstood a planet destruction. Bill withstood a planet exploding right on top of him twice in one book while also punching a hole into Galactus and withstanding a crush clap by Galactus in the same book. Didn't he also withstand a sun going Nova on top of him? I can only imagine if this was Zod.

Bills in the same book took out a being that was threatening the freaking Universe.

Originally posted by carver9
I wonder how people in here would be reacting if Zod had Bills fts. Half of the forum went crazy when they "thought" Superman withstood a planet destruction. Bill withstood a planet exploding right on top of him twice in one book while also punching a hole into Galactus and withstanding a crush clap by Galactus in the same book. Didn't he also withstand a sun going Nova on top of him? I can only imagine if this was Zod.

Bills in the same book took out a being that was threatening the freaking Universe.
Not only that didn't happen in one book (two different books), Bill never tanked any sun going Nova and was knocked out by explosion of one planet.

Bill was crushed by Asteroth and after Asteroth was destroyed by a black hole, Bill defeated a much weaker Asteroth and almost died doing it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not only that didn't happen in one book (two different books), Bill never tanked any sun going Nova and was knocked out by explosion of one planet.

Bill was crushed by Asteroth and after Asteroth was destroyed by a black hole, Bill defeated a much weaker Asteroth and almost died doing it.

Meant one story. The sun scene is debatable but we clearly see him in the sun withstanding it and it was mentioned iirc the sun was going Nova. He woke up moments later. Beastly scene.

I Think we are talking about two different fights.

Originally posted by carver9
Meant one story. The sun scene is debatable but we clearly see him in the sun withstanding it and it was mentioned iirc the sun was going Nova. He woke up moments later. Beastly scene.

I Think we are talking about two different fights.
U got it mixed up. Bill was pulled into the core of a sun/star. Narration was comparing how his journey started from a sun/star and ending in it as well. The sun going nova was a description made by the narrator. He was describing that big @$$ portal("exploding sun" that he and Thor destroyed at the core of his galaxy.
http://imgur.com/SBf8lrb.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U got it mixed up. Bill was pulled into the core of a sun/star. Narration was comparing how his journey started from a sun/star and ending in it as well. The sun going nova was a description made by the narrator. He was describing that big @$$ portal("exploding sun" that he and Thor destroyed at the core of his galaxy.
http://imgur.com/SBf8lrb.jpg

Your scan is kind of blurry, can't read it but I believe you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How so? Eradicator walked through Booster and koed Superman. He was only defeated when Skeet hacked through Eradicator's robots.

Superman beating down Lor and Ursa only shows how powerful he is.

Bill looked far less Impressive against Nova and Silver Surfer.

But I guess Zod needs to validate his feats every week unlike marvel characters.


dude seriously?

Originally posted by carver9
Meant one story. The sun scene is debatable but we clearly see him in the sun withstanding it and it was mentioned iirc the sun was going Nova. He woke up moments later. Beastly scene.

I Think we are talking about two different fights.


No, he was stated to die if the sun went Nova. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U got it mixed up. Bill was pulled into the core of a sun/star. Narration was comparing how his journey started from a sun/star and ending in it as well. The sun going nova was a description made by the narrator. He was describing that big @$$ portal("exploding sun" that he and Thor destroyed at the core of his galaxy.
http://imgur.com/SBf8lrb.jpg
crylaugh

Still clinging to that, eh?

Originally posted by carver9
Your scan is kind of blurry, can't read it but I believe you.
Sure you do. Originally posted by Sin I AM
dude seriously?
Yeah, seriously. What has Bill done recently as per your logic?

Originally posted by abhilegend


No, he was stated to die if the sun went Nova.
crylaugh

Still clinging to that, eh?
facepalm


Still hurts?

old man zod is weak af. casually punched away by superman when he had help then restrained with a kryptinite shard by booster. scrub. bill curbstumps

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm


Still hurts?
Your stupidity, why yes. Originally posted by Sin I AM
old man zod is weak af. casually punched away by superman when he had help then restrained with a kryptinite shard by booster. scrub. bill curbstumps
Being punched away by Superman means Bill curbstomps Zod?

And Booster using kryptonite is supposed to be a low showing?

Are you sure you are not retarded?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your stupidity, why yes.
Being punched away by Superman means Bill curbstomps Zod?

And Booster using kryptonite is supposed to be a low showing?

Are you sure you are not retarded?

4 kryptonians vs supes, a droid and booster. zod did nothing. bill will wreck him

Originally posted by Sin I AM
4 kryptonians vs supes, a droid and booster. zod did nothing. bill will wreck him
Because he wasn't shown that much.

Zod will wreck Bill worse than he did to Henshaw.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your stupidity, why yes.

Hmm... "Exploding sun"... Seems gigantic.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hmm... "Exploding sun"... Seems gigantic.


Actual portal didn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Actual portal didn't.
Oh u mean like when Brainiac's ship looked much smaller than earth in some depictions?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nqFLevcTyk/VCQojxtwtlI/AAAAAAAE9Yg/u29ySrqbvCs/s1600/p34_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Or when sometimes it looked no bigger than a small building?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RvnqcDXa6qA/VCQokLOM7MI/AAAAAAAE9YY/1AopXU23y60/s1600/p34_6%2Bcopy.jpg



Well in that case, then I understand where you're coming from.

Lol.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh u mean like when Brainiac's ship looked much smaller than earth in some depictions?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nqFLevcTyk/VCQojxtwtlI/AAAAAAAE9Yg/u29ySrqbvCs/s1600/p34_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Or when sometimes it looked no bigger than a small building?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RvnqcDXa6qA/VCQokLOM7MI/AAAAAAAE9YY/1AopXU23y60/s1600/p34_6%2Bcopy.jpg



Well in that case, then I understand where you're coming from.

Brainiac's ship was explicitly far bigger than Earth.

Let's see the portal ever being stated to be that large.

Heck at one point it was shown bigger than the sun too.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174516-0448417691-lOsXK.jpg

By your logic, it "would" be bigger than sun. Right?

Please edit that.

Not content with ruining threads with your posts, you know resort to image stretching?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Please edit that.

Not content with ruining threads with your posts, you know resort to image stretching?
Celey needs full sized images to look at anything.

Originally posted by Galan007
Kyle and co. vs. Zod and co. (2/2):
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889469_4016682.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889470_4604932.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889471_1770177.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889472_5309267.jpg

https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889473_8346986.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889474_8137391.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889475_6145273.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/37889476_9424811.jpg


*Zod is just ludicrously f*cking OP right now... But it looks like we'll get Hal vs. Zod(round 2) next issue... Although this time I imagine Hal will be packing a bit more of his 'God Will'.

I must take the expert (rage and Celey) opinion on this.

What do you think Rage? Can Zod take 1/10 against BRB now?

Beating the shit out of Lanterns who keep fighting you in close combat would be easy pickings for Bill. It's been two different fights and not a single Lantern has used any attack to justify them being Lanterns in the first place.

Why do they keep getting into h2h range? Especially Kyle. Smh. WTF Kyle. I'm sick of my boy getting chumped.

Edit: There is more to the fight than you posted. For some reason, I thought that was all of it. Silly me. Kyle puts him in a construct and knocks him down.

Not smart to do that then charge him, but I'm not mad he got treated like a punching bag the entire time. Only 90% of the time lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Brainiac's ship was explicitly far bigger than Earth.

Let's see the portal ever being stated to be that large.

Heck at one point it was shown bigger than the sun too.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174516-0448417691-lOsXK.jpg

By your logic, it "would" be bigger than sun. Right?
Stop breaking the page geez. You keep doing this crap in every thread you enter.

Brainiac's ship was bigger than earth. I agree.
Its size inconsistently portrayed at times, yes.

Shown bigger than the sun? Where from your pic? The sun is shown in the background. I've refrained from calling you names, but this... This is dunce level if this is what you are referring to.

Unlike here where the gateway that replaced a galactic core is explicitly depicted to dwarf nearby celestial bodies in its foreground which included suns/stars...
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

An object that was literally called an "exploding sun" through narration.
https://i.imgur.com/SBf8lrb.jpg

Hell it's been depicted as a sun/star in other books.
https://i.imgur.com/P7jRoJ1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SZm5E3s.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Beating the shit out of Lanterns who keep fighting you in close combat would be easy pickings for Bill. It's been two different fights and not a single Lantern has used any attack to justify them being Lanterns in the first place.

Why do they keep getting into h2h range? Especially Kyle. Smh. WTF Kyle. I'm sick of my boy getting chumped.

Edit: There is more to the fight than you posted. For some reason, I thought that was all of it. Silly me. Kyle puts him in a construct and knocks him down.

Not smart to do that then charge him, but I'm not mad he got treated like a punching bag the entire time. Only 90% of the time lol.
Zod was being lenient there.

Kyle pretty much used all his power in one attack. What else is required for someone to be a lantern?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Stop breaking the page geez. You keep doing this crap in every thread you enter.

Because you can't read for shit.

It is explicitly stated to be larger than the planet. Any depiction showing it smaller can be chalked to inconsistent art.



The sun is shown alongside the moon to show the size of the ship.

Why would they show sun at all if not for size comparison.

Except no, those were not stars and never stated as such.

And the portal wasn't an exploding sun.

I guess any yellow object is the sun now, eh?

Also to remind you how this was debunked.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, no. Those are in the background and are shown as little compared to even the chariot. Moreover, Surtur creates another identical portal on Earth using twilight and its nowhere near big enough to dwarf stars.

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29916275_Thor_V1348_p21.jpg http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29916276_Thor_V1348_p22.jpg http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29916277_Thor_V1348_p23.jpg http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29916274_Thor_1985_353_17.jpg




No, it doesn't. It merely says there is a portal and nowhere it is mentioned that the portal dwarfs or replaced the stars.




Or the portal isn't that big to begin with.




Yes, the portal was very hot. Never mentioned its size though.



That's just laughable. Its hot so its an exploding sun.

No wonder I always laugh at your stretching.




But Thor didn't travel at the speed of light to jump across the portal. If he did, Bill would be at the other side of the portal as well as he was also in the chariot at the very previous panel.

And Thor called him across the portal as well.





Yes, in the same scene the stars and planets are in the background and an identical portal was shown nowhere that big under the same artist.




Whenever you are ready for another round of thrashing, do let me know.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because you can't read for shit.
Yeah. Coming from the guy who claimed surfer hid inside G's ship and made a big deal of Superman speed after he used one of the biggest tropes in comics.
facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend

It is explicitly stated to be larger than the planet. Any depiction showing it smaller can be chalked to inconsistent art.

The sun is shown alongside the moon to show the size of the ship.

Why would they show sun at all if not for size comparison.

No shiet. Inconsistent art and depictions.

Geezuz. If you think that scan was to show that Brainiac's ship is bigger than the sun, you need a lot of help. You can claim that all you want. Not gonna stop you from sounding ridiculous.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Except no, those were not stars and never stated as such.

And the portal wasn't an exploding sun.

I guess any yellow object is the sun now, eh?
Wut the ef? A galactic core tend to have a higher concentration of stars. And look at the picture for god's sakes. What did you think they were, beach balls? Hell one of them has a working solar system.
https://imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

The gateway was depicted as being extremely large. It is now located where Surtur destoryed multiple stars. It dwarfed nearby celestial bodies. It was so hot that Bill and Thor could not power through it. It was called an "exploding sun".

These were flashbacks consisten with Bill's origin. An origin that had suns/stars playing a significant part. Any yellow object is not a sun. These were. Only a blind mess would think otherwise.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also to remind you how this was debunked.
By you?
Spare me.

The gateways were similar. Not identical. The one that replaced a galactic core was much larger. Much much larger.

Zod is at about two tiers above Bill.

John Stewart is a better fight for Bill. Anything above that, he loses. Kyle would destroy him in a fight. Zod is unfair.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yeah. Coming from the guy who claimed surfer hid inside G's ship and made a big deal of Superman speed after he used one of the biggest tropes in comics.
facepalm

Better than the guy who thinks he partially tanked it.

Surtur Portal was never described as bigger than stars.

But Surtur portal was bigger than the stars, eh?

Hey idiot, the demons Bill described came from the core of the galaxy which was destroyed.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2AkqjGA5cas/Vnp5hHdNiTI/AAAAAAAAXzM/hWyxjC4dAGo/s1600-Ic42/RCO012.jpg

Later Odin described it the same.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MzBk619F9lY/Vnp5hqN3YJI/AAAAAAAAXzc/6vL1U07Fwu4/s1600-Ic42/RCO014.jpg

But Bill didn't recognize the portal because it wasn't the same source and later created by Surtur.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_s4VUaKVwA/Vnp50rnpQoI/AAAAAAAAX5w/CeOWckRgWo0/s1600-Ic42/RCO005.jpg

Heck, narration even states that against them don't lie any stars.

This is just idiotic now.

Those were different sources idiot.

It was never described as an exploding sun. That was the core of the galaxy which they did not go to.



What a moron.

That was the biggest portal Surtur had created in the arc.

Don't be stupid.

Oh wait.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Edit: There is more to the fight than you posted. For some reason, I thought that was all of it. Silly me. Kyle puts him in a construct and knocks him down.
Tbf, Zod had initially decreed that his warriors be "lenient" on the GLC(IOW, Zod and co. were holding back at first.) It wasn't until a little later the battle, when they stopped being "lenient", that the House of Zod proceeded to stomp the bejesus out of the GLC without much effort.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except no, those were not stars and never stated as such.




You don't think those are Stars:
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

"Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

I mean, you shouldn't need verbal confirmation but still, it's there....What else do you think they are? I realize acknowledging that they are Stars means acknowledging that Bill and Thor have a ridiculous feat under their belt which pisses you off I guess (I don't know why though.) so I'm curious how far you'll run with this.

The portal of Surtur was built out of the remnants of Bill's Galaxy which was mostly destroyed by the forging of Twilight...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't think those are Stars:
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

"Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

I mean, you shouldn't need verbal confirmation but still, it's there....What else do you think they are? I realize acknowledging that they are Stars means acknowledging that Bill and Thor have a ridiculous feat under their belt which pisses you off I guess (I don't know why though.) so I'm curious how far you'll run with this.

The portal of Surtur was built out of the remnants of Bill's Galaxy which was mostly destroyed by the forging of Twilight...
It was a false portal created by Surtur to fool Thor and Bill.

Odin flat out says that Thor and Bill didn't travel to the burning galaxy. Hence why he sent huginn and muninn to there and Surtur killed Huginn there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gH5nMDB0zmA/Vnp5_cv0JFI/AAAAAAAAX9E/_Supn8P5ojU/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CQ0y9sCbh0w/Vnp6ILUUt-I/AAAAAAAAX_8/dxdKqrzGmV0/s1600-Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Not to mention that Surtur created Twilight several issues later and the "exploding core" looked nothing like the portal Thor and Bill destroyed.

Not to mention Thor hopping to the other side of the portal throws a wrench into the idea that the portal was larger than stars.

To think I've to teach Thorbags about Thor mythos.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was a false portal created by Surtur to fool Thor and Bill.

Odin flat out says that Thor and Bill didn't travel to the burning galaxy. Hence why he sent huginn and muninn to there and Surtur killed Huginn there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gH5nMDB0zmA/Vnp5_cv0JFI/AAAAAAAAX9E/_Supn8P5ojU/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CQ0y9sCbh0w/Vnp6ILUUt-I/AAAAAAAAX_8/dxdKqrzGmV0/s1600-Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Not to mention that Surtur created Twilight several issues later and the "exploding core" looked nothing like the portal Thor and Bill destroyed.

Not to mention Thor hopping to the other side of the portal throws a wrench into the idea that the portal was larger than stars.

To think I've to teach Thorbags about Thor mythos.

I don't think you're replying to the right poster.

I specifically commented on your claim that those were not Stars. They were clearly Stars. Do you disagree or agree?

The rest of your post is irrelevant. I don't even know what false portal is intended to mean. The demon horde was consistently pouring out of it and it was a direct access to Surtur's burning realm.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think you're replying to the right poster.

I specifically commented on your claim that those were not Stars. They were clearly Stars. Do you disagree or agree?

No, they were not as narration states that in front of them lies not the stars.



This means something in the language of idiots?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, they were not as narration states that in front of them lies not the stars.



This means something in the language of idiots?



Wait run me through this. The narration said that what lies before them is not the vibrant, radiant Stars that birthed Bill's ancient and wise race, but a demonic portal that....

Bill was using those very same Stars: "Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

What do you think all this meant? My interpretation is that those very stars that birthed Bill have been perverted for the creation of that portal.

I can see why this could be confusing for some. But seems easy to follow. When Thor And Bill arrived to the core of Bills Galaxy. The expectation was a celestial body composed stars and such. The reality there is demonic army of space demons (fantastic shiz) weponizing Said Celestial bodies to power their army.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Wait run me through this. The narration said that what lies before them is not the vibrant, radiant Stars that birthed Bill's ancient and wise race, but a demonic portal that....

Bill was using those very same Stars: "Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

What do you think all this meant? My interpretation is that those very stars that birthed Bill have been perverted for the creation of that portal.
Stars used to power the portals maybe but the globs weren't stars as they were extinguished.

The size of the portal was never compared with the size of stars and that is consistent with the second portal created by Surtur which was the main portal and how Thor could jump from one side of the portal to other side. Originally posted by "Id"
I can see why this could be confusing for some. But seems easy to follow. When Thor And Bill arrived to the core of Bills Galaxy. The expectation was a celestial body composed stars and such. The reality there is demonic army of space demons (fantastic shiz) weponizing Said Celestial bodies to power their army.
Except that the galactic core had already exploded and the stars were already destroyed.

There is no mention of the size of the portal to be bigger than stars.

Originally posted by "Id"
I can see why this could be confusing for some. But seems easy to follow. When Thor And Bill arrived to the core of Bills Galaxy. The expectation was a celestial body composed stars and such. The reality there is demonic army of space demons (fantastic shiz) weponizing Said Celestial bodies to power their army.

Sure, on the first read but on the third? It's a very linear series of events. In that one page we go from their expectations, to the reality of what happened, to what they did to pervert Bill's home. Classic storytelling. It's one of the reasons Walt's run was so awesome. It had depth but wasn't convoluted.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Stars used to power the portals maybe but the globs weren't stars as they were extinguished.

The size of the portal was never compared with the size of stars and that is consistent with the second portal created by Surtur which was the main portal and how Thor could jump from one side of the portal to other side.
Except that the galactic core had already exploded and the stars were already destroyed.
s.

What were those fiery globes used in conjunction with the term Stars from Bill?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What were those fiery globes used in conjunction with the term Stars from Bill?
Those could be the energy sources powering up the portal.

I don't know honestly. I doubt Walt intended the portal to be that big with no such explanations given.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Better than the guy who thinks he partially tanked it.
I was merely trying to meet you half way. Soften the blow. But then you've gone ahead and went full retard.
Btw, tell me again how fast Supes was going in Hal's warp tube? You know, the one where he spoke to Superman through from one end of the cosmos.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Surtur Portal was never described as bigger than stars.

But Surtur portal was bigger than the stars, eh?

Hey idiot, the demons Bill described came from the core of the galaxy which was destroyed.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2AkqjGA5cas/Vnp5hHdNiTI/AAAAAAAAXzM/hWyxjC4dAGo/s1600-Ic42/RCO012.jpg

Later Odin described it the same.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MzBk619F9lY/Vnp5hqN3YJI/AAAAAAAAXzc/6vL1U07Fwu4/s1600-Ic42/RCO014.jpg

But Bill didn't recognize the portal because it wasn't the same source and later created by Surtur.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_s4VUaKVwA/Vnp50rnpQoI/AAAAAAAAX5w/CeOWckRgWo0/s1600-Ic42/RCO005.jpg

Heck, narration even states that against them don't lie any stars.

This is just idiotic now.
Yes. The demons came from the galactic core. Same core the duo reached.
"Until at last they reach the galaxy that once housed the civilzation of Bill's people."
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

Lol. Bill's people had already left the "burning regions" when they were beset by the demons. He never saw their actual source.
Odin on the other hand was being blocked by magics and couldn't really see it either. All he knew is that they came from the general direction of the galactic core.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Those were different sources idiot.

It was never described as an exploding sun. That was the core of the galaxy which they did not go to.

What a moron.

That was the biggest portal Surtur had created in the arc.
Don't be stupid.
Oh wait.
Like I said. You can deny it all you want, but you can't deny what was written.
"From an exploding sun came the demons that chased the Korbinites from their homeworld..."
https://imgur.com/SBf8lrb.jpg
And as I've already shown above, they did reach it.

"What a moron." What happened, you couldn't properly reply here so you thought might as well dismiss it with a useless retort?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was a false portal created by Surtur to fool Thor and Bill.

Odin flat out says that Thor and Bill didn't travel to the burning galaxy. Hence why he sent huginn and muninn to there and Surtur killed Huginn there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gH5nMDB0zmA/Vnp5_cv0JFI/AAAAAAAAX9E/_Supn8P5ojU/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CQ0y9sCbh0w/Vnp6ILUUt-I/AAAAAAAAX_8/dxdKqrzGmV0/s1600-Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Not to mention that Surtur created Twilight several issues later and the "exploding core" looked nothing like the portal Thor and Bill destroyed.

Not to mention Thor hopping to the other side of the portal throws a wrench into the idea that the portal was larger than stars.

To think I've to teach Thorbags about Thor mythos.
Just saw this.

facepalm
False portal? The fukk?

Odin said no such thing. Ofcourse they traveled to the burning galaxy. They reached the galactic core for crying out loud.
What they were unable to do was penetrate the barrier within the gateway. In your scan Odin empowered his ravens to pass through any barrier.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The size of the portal was never compared with the size of stars and that is consistent with the second portal created by Surtur which was the main portal and how Thor could jump from one side of the portal to other side.
Except that the galactic core had already exploded and the stars were already destroyed.

There is no mention of the size of the portal to be bigger than stars.

Bill confirms the presence of the stars as Rage pointed out quoting the splash page.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I was merely trying to meet you half way. Soften the blow. But then you've gone ahead and went full retard.

This is supposed to be a retort?

Faster than tarpit speedster Thor fo shure.



They never reached the galactic core and it did not look like the portal in question.

Wut? The demons were shown coming out of the core and the same was shown again in Odin's vision.

This is just pathetic.

Yes, the demons came from the galactic core.

It wasn't the portal though. In all depictions of it, it was never the portal which Thor and Bill destroyed which you tried to depict it as.

Lie much, huh?

That's proper retort for a moronic person like you.

That's what Odin said.

They didn't reach to the galactic core because there Surtur was creating the Twilight sword.

Seriously, have you even read the story?

Originally posted by "Id"
Bill confirms the presence of the stars as Rage pointed out quoting the splash page.
No, he says that the stars are providing energy.

And it wasn't the core of the galaxy where Surtur was creating twilight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is supposed to be a retort?

Faster than tarpit speedster Thor fo shure.
Useless...


Originally posted by abhilegend

They never reached the galactic core and it did not look like the portal in question.

Wut? The demons were shown coming out of the core and the same was shown again in Odin's vision.

This is just pathetic.
"Until at last they reach the core of the galaxy that once housed the civilzation of Bill's people."
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

I'm going to keep repeating it until you get it into that skull of yours.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, the demons came from the galactic core.

It wasn't the portal though. In all depictions of it, it was never the portal which Thor and Bill destroyed which you tried to depict it as.

Lie much, huh?
Wow. The demons came streaming from the galactic core. Within the core, there was a gigantic gateway that was explicitly shown to dwarf nearby celestial bodies. A gateway that was stated to harness the stars. An object that is depicted as a sun/star in other books.
In fact it has literally been called an "exploding sun".
https://i.imgur.com/SBf8lrb.jpg
Yes, I'm going to keep repeating this one too.
The demons disappeared and stopped streaming out as soon as the portal was destroyed. There was no other source ffs.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's proper retort for a moronic person like you.

That's what Odin said.

They didn't reach to the galactic core because there Surtur was creating the Twilight sword.

Seriously, have you even read the story?
Oh no you don't. You don't make a claim that Bill and Thor didn't reach the galactic core and get away with it. Another one of you moronic claims. Along with "Brainiac's ship was shown bigger than the sun".


Where Surtur was located was beyond the portal. It was not the galactic core for crying out loud. Jeezuz....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Useless...

Yeah, you're useless.

Except it was a misdirect from Surtur who was at the core of the galaxy forging twilight.

You're at least able to read I assumed.

Hahaha, this is just pure gold. Now a portal is a sun when it was shown quite differently in the comic itself.

How desperate are you for this one feat.
That's what Surtur did and Odin claimed.

Brainiac's ship was shown larger than the sun more than Surturs portal was ever shown bigger than stars.



He created the twilight from the core of the galaxy but somehow he was beyond core.

You're pathetic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Those could be the energy sources powering up the portal.

I don't know honestly. I doubt Walt intended the portal to be that big with no such explanations given.

Good, Good.

I agree with this assessment. They were most likely energy sources powering up the portal. Now, a huge portal that is constantly open to a different hellish Universe would likely require a great deal of power.

What do you think, would be a readily available source of power that Surtur could use for this portal?

Hint, Bill says in the scan below:
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

""Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

mhmm

I'm just genuinely curious how far you'll run with this cognitive dissonance. I have rarely seen an artist as skilled as Walt in depicting scale in one image.

In that one panel, we have the portal, bordered by Suns, which are in turn bordered by smaller celestial with their own moons (Bottom right/Top left), with the demon horde shrinking into the horizon to indicate the massive size despite the great distance of said portal.

I mean, just google Solar Systems:
https://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-b&dcr=0&biw=1536&bih=700&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=AZeqWtewGIPCsQXD8bToCA&q=solar+systems&oq=solar+systems&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.19601.21505.0.21700.2.2.0.0.0.0.98.192.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.192...0i67k1.0.jNCH6tjowLQ

Looks familiar. mhmm

I don't think anyone even cares about this one particular feat that much, it's just hilarious that you would go to such lengths to deny the obvious.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Good, Good.

I agree with this assessment. They were most likely energy sources powering up the portal. Now, a huge portal that is constantly open to a different hellish Universe would likely require a great deal of power.

What do you think, would be a readily available source of power that Surtur could use for this portal?

Hint, Bill says in the scan below:
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

""Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

mhmm Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm just genuinely curious how far you'll run with this cognitive dissonance. I have rarely seen an artist as skilled as Walt in depicting scale in one image.

In that one panel, we have the portal, bordered by Suns, which are in turn bordered by smaller celestial with their own moons (Bottom right/Top left), with the demon horde shrinking into the horizon to indicate the massive size despite the great distance of said portal.

I mean, just google Solar Systems:
https://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-b&dcr=0&biw=1536&bih=700&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=AZeqWtewGIPCsQXD8bToCA&q=solar+systems&oq=solar+systems&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.19601.21505.0.21700.2.2.0.0.0.0.98.192.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.192...0i67k1.0.jNCH6tjowLQ

Looks familiar. mhmm

I don't think anyone even cares about this one particular feat that much, it's just hilarious that you would go to such lengths to deny the obvious.
So I guess Thor/Bill were planet/star size too?

mmm

And that pesky Surtur, creating his biggest portal on earth which almost pushed Bill/Hercules/Vision and She hulk to their limits just to topple.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wvh-JIYJtDk/Vnp70PDttaI/AAAAAAAAYkc/-Afgt0FJfdg/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RgmlCoOw23E/Vnp70vkP_QI/AAAAAAAAYkk/TA8OeT1UcT8/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-evuXmXwjqDg/Vnp70safpMI/AAAAAAAAYkc/69fR2SL-H8k/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg

Just look at the sheer size of the portal. Dwarfing stars right there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, you're useless.

Except it was a misdirect from Surtur who was at the core of the galaxy forging twilight.

You're at least able to read I assumed.
They reached the core of his galaxy. Proof has been shown more than once. What they couldn't go through was the portal. It acted as a barrier and a connection to where Surtur and his demons were located. In a sense they were located in the core of the burning galaxy by way of that portal/barrier.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, this is just pure gold. Now a portal is a sun when it was shown quite differently in the comic itself.
How desperate are you for this one feat.
Resides at the core of a galaxy where destroyed stars once stood.
Hotter than Bill and Thor can withstand.
Shown to dwarf nearby celestial bodies including stars.
Harnessed the power of stars.
Described on panel as an "exploding sun".
hmmm..


Originally posted by abhilegend

That's what Surtur did and Odin claimed.

Brainiac's ship was shown larger than the sun more than Surturs portal was ever shown bigger than stars.

facepalm
Odin made no claim like that. He knew Bill and Thor were unable to penetrate the barrier/portal. They destroyed it intead. Odin empowered his ravens to return to the burning galaxy and penetrate the barrier.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gH5nMDB0zmA/Vnp5_cv0JFI/AAAAAAAAX9E/_Supn8P5ojU/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CQ0y9sCbh0w/Vnp6ILUUt-I/AAAAAAAAX_8/dxdKqrzGmV0/s1600-Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Oh really? Show us the multiple times where Brainiac's ship was shown larger than the sun.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He created the twilight from the core of the galaxy but somehow he was beyond core.

You're pathetic.
He created the sword from star leftovers. Those stars were located at the core of Bill's galaxy. He was beyond the barrier when he was crafting the sword.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So I guess Thor/Bill were planet/star size too?

mmm

And that pesky Surtur, creating his biggest portal on earth which almost pushed Bill/Hercules/Vision and She hulk to their limits just to topple.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wvh-JIYJtDk/Vnp70PDttaI/AAAAAAAAYkc/-Afgt0FJfdg/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RgmlCoOw23E/Vnp70vkP_QI/AAAAAAAAYkk/TA8OeT1UcT8/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-evuXmXwjqDg/Vnp70safpMI/AAAAAAAAYkc/69fR2SL-H8k/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg

Just look at the sheer size of the portal. Dwarfing stars right there.

So we have established that the portal
1) was built in Bill's Galaxy.
2) that those fiery orbs are most likely power sources.
3) that you read the part that Bill mentioned the home stars of his Galaxy were being misused for evil purposes.
4) what Solar Systems look like (Did you not know before my link to google...?).

Now....again based on the available evidence, do you think those were Stars?

Yes or no. If no, why so?

I'm not even sure why posting a a completely different portal built on Earth vs. one built in the heart of a Galaxy even bares mentioning. I'm also going to ignore the part where you forget how scale functions in art and the attempted lowballing of those heroes (As if a portal constructed by Surtur's magic wouldn't be a huge asterisk).

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They reached the core of his galaxy. Proof has been shown more than once. What they couldn't go through was the portal. It acted as a barrier and a connection to where Surtur and his demons were located. In a sense they were located in the core of the burning galaxy by way of that portal/barrier.

So they reached the core of the galaxy but didn't?

Isn't that something.

Except there is no indication that the "exploding sun" and this portal was the same.

And the portal was never described as that big.

And Thor jumped to the other side of the portal.

Maybe Thor jumps at lightspeed too.



So posting my own scans and making idiotic claims?

Where Huginn and Munnin went, no stars or planets were there. It was total darkness.

You can show anytime that portal was described as bigger than stars?

Anytime?

That's why when Huginn and Muninn went there, there were no stars, eh?

Continue this. It's entertaining at least.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So we have established that the portal
1) was built in Bill's Galaxy.
2) that those fiery orbs are most likely power sources.
3) that you read the part that Bill mentioned the home stars of his Galaxy were being misused for evil purposes.
4) what Solar Systems look like (Did you not know before my link to google...?).

Now....again based on the available evidence, do you think those were Stars?

This is the most idiotic thing you could've said.

Thor's chariot looks the same size as those "glowing orbs".

That only shows that "the glowing orbs" were shown in background of the scene and you can't judge the size of the portal by that comparison.

So Surtur randomly creating a far smaller portal as his biggest portal is your reasoning?

No wonder you're stupid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So they reached the core of the galaxy but didn't?
Isn't that something.
Egads...
They reached, but could not penetrate the portal/barrier.
http://imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg
http://imgur.com/Dt3Oc8E.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend

Except there is no indication that the "exploding sun" and this portal was the same.

And the portal was never described as that big.

And Thor jumped to the other side of the portal.

Maybe Thor jumps at lightspeed too.
It was gigantic and shown to dwarf nearby celestial bodies. Hmm.. An exploding sun should be pretty fukkin big. Bill and Thor could barely withstand the heat. Hmm... An exploding sun should be pretty fukkin hot. Resides at the core of Bill's galaxy where stars once stood. Hmm... A galactic core tend to have big 'ol stars... And didn't Surtut just blow up multiple suns/stars in the very same galactic core? Hmm... I wonder where the description "exploding sun" comes from? I wonder....
Same damn source where the demons were pouring out of. Gateway is destroyed. Demons disappear. My my what a coincidence.

Thor flew to the other side and jumped off an ftl chariot. You know.. Goats!

Originally posted by abhilegend

So posting my own scans and making idiotic claims?

Where Huginn and Munnin went, no stars or planets were there. It was total darkness.
Because you can't comprehend your own scans. They penetrated whatever barrier it was that separated Bill's home and where the demons were amassing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You can show anytime that portal was described as bigger than stars?
Anytime?
I knew it. Push comes to shove you can't produce what you claimed. As usual...

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's why when Huginn and Muninn went there, there were no stars, eh?

Continue this. It's entertaining at least.
What?
They were hiding in the shadows of what ever realm that Surter and his demons were gathering.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Egads...
They reached, but could not penetrate the portal/barrier.
http://imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg
http://imgur.com/Dt3Oc8E.jpg

Then they did not reach the core of the galaxy where Surtur was.

You've failed to show that the portal was an "exploding sun".

You've failed to show Thor or Bill were at the same place where Surtur created twilight.

You've failed to see that Thor and Bill were of the same size as those celestial bodies.

You've failed to provide any description of the Portal being big in any condition.

You've failed as usual.

No, Thor just jumped to the other side.

https://i.imgur.com/Dt3Oc8E.jpg

Not to mention that the fourth panel actually shows how wide the portal is and its not big.

So Thor and Bill didn't reach the core of the galaxy where Bill saw the demons come out from an exploding sun, huh?



The sheer irony.

So now Surtur created twilight in a distant realm instead of the core of the burning galaxy?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then they did not reach the core of the galaxy where Surtur was.

They failed to penetrate the barrier located at the core of Bill's galaxy. Really can't help u much further than that. Sad thing is a 5 year old would know this.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You've failed to show that the portal was an "exploding sun".

You've failed to show Thor or Bill were at the same place where Surtur created twilight.

You've failed to see that Thor and Bill were of the same size as those celestial bodies.

You've failed to provide any description of the Portal being big in any condition.

You've failed as usual.


Originally posted by abhilegend

No, Thor just jumped to the other side.

https://i.imgur.com/Dt3Oc8E.jpg

Not to mention that the fourth panel actually shows how wide the portal is and its not big.
Yes. By way of chariot.

Fourth panel? Lol... That argument falls flat.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh u mean like when Brainiac's ship looked much smaller than earth in some depictions?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nqFLevcTyk/VCQojxtwtlI/AAAAAAAE9Yg/u29ySrqbvCs/s1600/p34_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Or when sometimes it looked no bigger than a small building?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RvnqcDXa6qA/VCQokLOM7MI/AAAAAAAE9YY/1AopXU23y60/s1600/p34_6%2Bcopy.jpg

Well in that case, then I understand where you're coming from.


Originally posted by abhilegend

So Thor and Bill didn't reach the core of the galaxy where Bill saw the demons come out from an exploding sun, huh?


The sheer irony.

So now Surtur created twilight in a distant realm instead of the core of the burning galaxy?


No. It was a gigantic gateway located in the core of Bill's galaxy(scan available) where demons were pouring out of(scan available). Btw they reached the core(scan available).


Lol.. "Brainiac ship shown bigger than the sun"... Can't even produce one scan.

Surtur created twilight from a realm where you can reach through a gateway in the core of Bill's galaxy. Provided of course you have the means of penetrating the barrier.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

They failed to penetrate the barrier located at the core of Bill's galaxy. Really can't help u much further than that. Sad thing is a 5 year old would know this.

So they didn't go to the core of the galaxy. Simple as that.

He didn't fly to the other side, he just jumped there.

Yes it does. Hence why I need to post the image.


https://i.imgur.com/Dt3Oc8E.jpg

Fourth panel shows the width of the portal.

It was a portal but no mention of it being big much less gigantic.

I did.



Surtur created the sword at the core. No realms were ever stated for that.

6 pages in, and Abhil still doesn't know how scales work and the limitations it places on artists. Fourth panel, the portal stretches out ambiguously into the distance. I can pull out a scan from like a year ago, of Superman moving a ship supposedly bigger than Jupiter that looked like the size of a building next to Superman. Walts work was incredibly well done for a writer/artist combo from 30 years ago....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
6 pages in, and Abhil still doesn't know how scales work and the limitations it places on artists. Fourth panel, the portal stretches out ambiguously into the distance. I can pull out a scan from like a year ago, of Superman moving a ship supposedly bigger than Jupiter that looked like the size of a building next to Superman. Walts work was incredibly well done for a writer/artist combo from 30 years ago....
ermm

Sure, why don't you go ahead and do it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
6 pages in, and Abhil still doesn't know how scales work and the limitations it places on artists. Fourth panel, the portal stretches out ambiguously into the distance. I can pull out a scan from like a year ago, of Superman moving a ship supposedly bigger than Jupiter that looked like the size of a building next to Superman. Walts work was incredibly well done for a writer/artist combo from 30 years ago....

Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

Sure, why don't you go ahead and do it.
Much smaller than earth.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nqFLevcTyk/VCQojxtwtlI/AAAAAAAE9Yg/u29ySrqbvCs/s1600/p34_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Smaller than earth.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0ZIVC6aXSBg/VCQohLVaE4I/AAAAAAAE9Xo/b8Ue_bVljLk/s1600/p34_33%2Bcopy.jpg

No bigger than a building.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RvnqcDXa6qA/VCQokLOM7MI/AAAAAAAE9YY/1AopXU23y60/s1600/p34_6%2Bcopy.jpg


He's hanging his hat on one maybe two panels of inconsistencies yet he defends multiple pages of glaring inconsistencies... And hasn't shown one scan of B's ship shown bigger than the sun(his claim).
hysterical

Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

Sure, why don't you go ahead and do it. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Much smaller than earth.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nqFLevcTyk/VCQojxtwtlI/AAAAAAAE9Yg/u29ySrqbvCs/s1600/p34_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Smaller than earth.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0ZIVC6aXSBg/VCQohLVaE4I/AAAAAAAE9Xo/b8Ue_bVljLk/s1600/p34_33%2Bcopy.jpg

No bigger than a building.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RvnqcDXa6qA/VCQokLOM7MI/AAAAAAAE9YY/1AopXU23y60/s1600/p34_6%2Bcopy.jpg


He's hanging his hat on one maybe two panels of inconsistencies yet he defends multiple pages of glaring inconsistencies... And hasn't shown one scan of B's ship shown bigger than the sun(his claim).
hysterical

You're being critical of artwork 30 years older than the Superman comic.

Definition of bias.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Much smaller than earth.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nqFLevcTyk/VCQojxtwtlI/AAAAAAAE9Yg/u29ySrqbvCs/s1600/p34_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Smaller than earth.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0ZIVC6aXSBg/VCQohLVaE4I/AAAAAAAE9Xo/b8Ue_bVljLk/s1600/p34_33%2Bcopy.jpg

No bigger than a building.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RvnqcDXa6qA/VCQokLOM7MI/AAAAAAAE9YY/1AopXU23y60/s1600/p34_6%2Bcopy.jpg


He's hanging his hat on one maybe two panels of inconsistencies yet he defends multiple pages of glaring inconsistencies... And hasn't shown one scan of B's ship shown bigger than the sun(his claim).
hysterical Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're being critical of artwork 30 years older than the Superman comic.

Definition of bias.
Because of this you ****ing idiots.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111207460/4362480-superman+moving+brainiacs+ship.jpg

The ship is directly stated to be bigger than the planet.

If you have a single statement saying that the portal is bigger than stars, I will concede right here.

Lol he's kinda got you guys there.

Both sides have weird art with issues around scaling.

Abhi has a direct quote though.

shouldn't you be working on your write up instead of instigating?

Props to Abhi

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol he's kinda got you guys there.

Both sides have weird art with issues around scaling.

Abhi has a direct quote though.
It's been literally called an "exploding sun". Big, hot, and fiery. The portal was what? Big, hot, and fiery.
http://imgur.com/O4KDVHB.jpg

Where this is now...
http://imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

Is where this should be.
http://imgur.com/mMZLBdN.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because of this you ****ing idiots.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111207460/4362480-superman+moving+brainiacs+ship.jpg

The ship is directly stated to be bigger than the planet.

If you have a single statement saying that the portal is bigger than stars, I will concede right here.

Pretty much sums it up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because of this you ****ing idiots.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111207460/4362480-superman+moving+brainiacs+ship.jpg

The ship is directly stated to be bigger than the planet.

If you have a single statement saying that the portal is bigger than stars, I will concede right here. I legitimately laughed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because of this you ****ing idiots.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111207460/4362480-superman+moving+brainiacs+ship.jpg

The ship is directly stated to be bigger than the planet.

If you have a single statement saying that the portal is bigger than stars, I will concede right here.


ownage

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It's been literally called an "exploding sun". Big, hot, and fiery. The portal was what? Big, hot, and fiery.
http://imgur.com/O4KDVHB.jpg

Where this is now...
http://imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

Is where this should be.
http://imgur.com/mMZLBdN.jpg
Using a 2005 comic to prove something from 80s where the portal is nowhere even mentioned and somehow an exploding sun becomes a portal.

Stay retarded.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Using a 2005 comic to prove something from 80s where the portal is nowhere even mentioned and somehow an exploding sun becomes a portal.

Stay retarded.

From the guy who claimed that Imperiex dwarfs planets in size.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
From the guy who claimed that Imperiex dwarfs planets in size.
What?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What?

Specifically you claimed that Imperiex dwarfs his Jupiter sized ship in size.

So?

Wut? Imperiex was shown bigger than the planets several times.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Adventures-of-Superman-1987/Issue-594?id=29661

Originally posted by abhilegend
Using a 2005 comic to prove something from 80s where the portal is nowhere even mentioned and somehow an exploding sun becomes a portal.

Stay retarded.
Lol. Like you've never used a writer's take on past events from a comic written by someone else. This better not turn into one of your "I never use bios" debacle. I'm betting you've used other writer's take on past events if I check around these forums.

He is making the same point on the magnitude of that gateway. Because you know, an "exploding sun" could be very fukkin big.

And as if the scans weren't enough.
"Woe that the very stars that gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil".
It's literally telling you that the stars were used to create the damned thing. Sigh...

Instead you've misinterpreted the stories like claiming Bill and Thor never reached the core of Bill's galaxy(dunce). Or Bill and Thor never reached the Burning galaxy(weird claim). Or the infamous, the source where the demons came from is different from where the portal is(what the ef?). I could go on and on with your mental gymnastics.


I shouldn't be surprised because just a few days ago you couldn't even understand what happened when Yat destroyed Ranx. Another one of your famous misinterpretations from a long list of misinterpretations.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol. Like you've never used a writer's take on past events from a comic written by someone else. This better not turn into one of your "I never use bios" debacle. I'm betting you've used other writer's take on past events if I check around these forums.

He is making the same point on the magnitude of that gateway. Because you know, an "exploding sun" could be very fukkin big.

And as if the scans weren't enough.
"Woe that the very stars that gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil".
It's literally telling you that the stars were used to create the damned thing. Sigh...

Instead you've misinterpreted the stories like claiming Bill and Thor never reached the core of Bill's galaxy(dunce). Or Bill and Thor never reached the Burning galaxy(weird claim). Or the infamous, the source where the demons came from is different from where the portal is(what the ef?). I could go on and on with your mental gymnastics.


I shouldn't be surprised because just a few days ago you couldn't even understand what happened when Yat destroyed Ranx. Another one of your famous misinterpretations from a long list of misinterpretations.


My challenge is still open. Post one proof that the Portal was bigger than stars.

No "this was totally the portal. Exploding sun means portal. You gotta believe me even though I've no proof."

GTFO with this shit.

facepalm

You can't even bring yourself to admit that there are stars/suns in this page. You even went out of your way to deny it with cockamamie explanations.
hysterical

https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? Imperiex was shown bigger than the planets several times.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Adventures-of-Superman-1987/Issue-594?id=29661

Those planets as well as the ship are all in the background and evidently a good distance away. The portal shows stars in the background and foreground. celeyhyga17 has a more legitimate argument regarding the size of the portal than you have regarding the size of Imperiex, especially being that the ship that you claim Imperiex dwarfs in size is a ship that he actually rides in.

Yes. As anyone can see it is a matter of perspective, unless Superman is one fifth the size of a planet lmao.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes. As anyone can see it is a matter of perspective, unless Superman is one fifth the size of a planet lmao.

True.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because of this you ****ing idiots.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111207460/4362480-superman+moving+brainiacs+ship.jpg

The ship is directly stated to be bigger than the planet.

If you have a single statement saying that the portal is bigger than stars, I will concede right here.

It was shown as much smaller in different panels if you ignore scale. Is that not a contradiction? You are using your inability to understand scaling as evidence of something not being a particular size: It looked smaller here, so clearly it wasn't THAT big.

Dude, one more time, I have made it very clear, that my point is about your denial that the fiery orbs around the portal are Stars:
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't think those are Stars:
https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg

"Woe that the very Stars which gave me life should be harnessed now to create such evil!"

I mean, you shouldn't need verbal confirmation but still, it's there....What else do you think they are? I realize acknowledging that they are Stars means acknowledging that Bill and Thor have a ridiculous feat under their belt which pisses you off I guess (I don't know why though.) so I'm curious how far you'll run with this.

The portal of Surtur was built out of the remnants of Bill's Galaxy which was mostly destroyed by the forging of Twilight... Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think you're replying to the right poster.

I specifically commented on your claim that those were not Stars. They were clearly Stars. Do you disagree or agree?

The rest of your post is irrelevant. I don't even know what false portal is intended to mean. The demon horde was consistently pouring out of it and it was a direct access to Surtur's burning realm. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What were those fiery globes used in conjunction with the term Stars from Bill?

I don't know how else to make it any clearer.

The size of the portal is a conversation between you and Celehey and is secondary to me. I'm just mind boggled by your inability to admit such an obvious part of a story.

It's true, if you concede that they were Stars, then logically, you would concede to Celehey so I can understand the hesitation, but that's your cognitive dissonance at work man.

Why are you spelling his name like that?

I was too lazy to scroll down to see his full name tbh.

You didn't even come close though. Not saying he has a great name, but you made it so much gayer. Celehey? Sounds like something a homo would say while screaming the "hey" part.

It is meant to be pronounced like a lovers intimate moan.

"Selly hey, put your hammer up my ass."

"I'll put that hammer down."

https://media.giphy.com/media/10ojktAn1RqMFO/giphy.gif

Where is your Thrawn quote from? His voice actor in rebels gives my goosebumps, goosebumps.

From the Layne Staley mini.


https://youtu.be/eBB2OS4IoTs


I got Galan too, he won't admit it but I know he was like "Woah a Thrawn quote I don't know about? I gots to get me some of dis"
And then he called everything I said emo in disappointment





But yes, Thrawn was good in that show. I remember hearing people complain about him and I'm thinking he was the best part of the show. Different strokes I guess.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm

You can't even bring yourself to admit that there are stars/suns in this page. You even went out of your way to deny it with cockamamie explanations.
hysterical

https://i.imgur.com/KwOlP6o.jpg Originally posted by abhilegend


My challenge is still open. Post one proof that the Portal was bigger than stars.

No "this was totally the portal. Exploding sun means portal. You gotta believe me even though I've no proof."

GTFO with this shit.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Those planets as well as the ship are all in the background and evidently a good distance away. The portal shows stars in the background and foreground. celeyhyga17 has a more legitimate argument regarding the size of the portal than you have regarding the size of Imperiex, especially being that the ship that you claim Imperiex dwarfs in size is a ship that he actually rides in.
The claim was regarding the size of the Imperiex regarding his probes.

https://s13.postimg.org/pn3vveuoz/image.jpg

As seen again, he is shown bigger than Earth/Apokolips.

When Kyle contains the energy, his bubble is shown far bigger than Earth as well.

https://s9.postimg.org/f53o6slyz/image.jpg

I will wait for the scene where Imperiex is shown smaller than Earth.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes. As anyone can see it is a matter of perspective, unless Superman is one fifth the size of a planet lmao. Originally posted by TheHulkster
True.
Sure, Thor and Bill are the size of the stars.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was shown as much smaller in different panels if you ignore scale. Is that not a contradiction? You are using your inability to understand scaling as evidence of something not being a particular size: It looked smaller here, so clearly it wasn't THAT big.

Because the portal was never shown that large in the very same scene. I mean Thor jumped to other side of the portal.

But hey, Thor and Bill were surely planet size there.

When the narrative flat out said that those were not stars?

You REALLY are this dumb.

What obvious part? That there was this star sized portal Surtur created which took only Thor and BRB to destroy while he created a not star sized portal (his main portal) on earth exactly like the star sized portal which BRB, Hercules, She Hulk and Vision could barely topple?

How is it being obvious on any level?

I mean does being Thorbag means you've to be braindead?





I can bet if there was no comment regarding the ship Superman pushed, you would have argued exactly like this.