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No prep.
No BFR.

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Sue

Well that was worth the wait.

Sue.

Whilst Barda is strong enough to support a continent (hyperbole?):
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Her Mega Rod 'only' strikes at 5 tons per square inch:
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That equates to about 69MPa. Which is obv high, but nothing Sue can't handle. It's about three times the Oklahoma City bomb's pressure.

IOW, if Sue bubbles Barda up, she could pound it but she couldn't break out.

Multiple strikes, constantly? Maybe. But that assumes the damage is cumulative.

Well that was worth the wait!

DS, what about Barda's other options that are available to her? How would her tech work out for her here?

Originally posted by Faceless808
DS, what about Barda's other options that are available to her? How would her tech work out for her here?
^^^Hey, yeah.

Whats up, DS? No Boom Tubing/Mother Box shenanigans?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sue.

Whilst Barda is strong enough to support a continent (hyperbole?):
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/9/98379/2076662-jla__25_pg06.jpg

Her Mega Rod 'only' strikes at 5 tons per square inch:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223820/5516045-7259459009-17973.jpg

That equates to about 69MPa. Which is obv high, but nothing Sue can't handle. It's about three times the Oklahoma City bomb's pressure.

How does that pressure compare to the pressure of re-entering Earth's atmosphere from space? Cause Sue coulnd't handle the pressure and passed out :
https://s14.postimg.org/e14v43hb1/image.jpg https://s14.postimg.org/a4rj84br1/image.jpg

Originally posted by Faceless808
DS, what about Barda's other options that are available to her? How would her tech work out for her here?

Her Mbox could well grant her some wins indeed. I could see her using it, actually. Hmmm may be convincing myself here.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sue.

Whilst Barda is strong enough to support a continent (hyperbole?):
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/9/98379/2076662-jla__25_pg06.jpg

Her Mega Rod 'only' strikes at 5 tons per square inch:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223820/5516045-7259459009-17973.jpg

That equates to about 69MPa. Which is obv high, but nothing Sue can't handle. It's about three times the Oklahoma City bomb's pressure.

IOW, if Sue bubbles Barda up, she could pound it but she couldn't break out.

Multiple strikes, constantly? Maybe. But that assumes the damage is cumulative.

Her rod reamed Superman.

And New Gods in general have super speed. Even with Sues anti-speedster feats (And again, if we can accept hers, why not accept Slade's? When is it pis?), I still think a rough Wonder Woman equivilent with a laser beam/plot device can out quickdraw her.

Originally posted by zopzop
How does that pressure compare to the pressure of re-entering Earth's atmosphere from space? Cause Sue coulnd't handle the pressure and passed out :
https://s14.postimg.org/e14v43hb1/image.jpg https://s14.postimg.org/a4rj84br1/image.jpg

That was ages ago.

Now, Sue can do this:

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https://s5.postimg.org/k9uuk6s4n/3977589-ff_586_025.jpg

A city sized (or at the very least, several buildings' sized) bubble. At the bottom of the ocean. For an entire day. As missiles and rockets hit it throughout the day.

As a guide, here are the magnitudes of pressure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(pressure)

IOW, Barda is 'only' able to replicate pressures of the ocean depths. Something that Susan is able to tank all day, over an area the size of a city (so one can assume the smaller the bubble needed, the stronger/longer she can make them) even with the added pressure of it being attacked.

I try to be fair, and tbh, it's always best to try and see both sides of an argument.

If there are any, of course. Good thread here, though.

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He could tank the ocean depths all day, too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That was ages ago.

Now, Sue can do this:

https://s5.postimg.org/djedaqx93/3977588-ff_586_006.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/k9uuk6s4n/3977589-ff_586_025.jpg

A city sized (or at the very least, several buildings' sized) bubble. At the bottom of the ocean. For an entire day. As missiles and rockets hit it throughout the day.

As a guide, here are the magnitudes of pressure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(pressure)

IOW, Barda is 'only' able to replicate pressures of the ocean depths. Something that Susan is able to tank all day, over an area the size of a city (so one can assume the smaller the bubble needed, the stronger/longer she can make them) even with the added pressure of it being attacked.
Wait one sec, the scan says "The Gulf of Thailand" no? That's 279ft deep MAX according to Wikipedia . That's hardly impressive in terms of pressure.

EDIT :
According to this - http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/games/depth_press
The pressure at the deepest part of the Gulf of Thailand works out to 9.55729e+8mPa. If Barda really strikes at 69mPa that's almost 8 times the pressure. Sue is effed in the a.

Originally posted by zopzop
Wait one sec, the scan says "The Gulf of Thailand" no? That's 279ft deep MAX according to Wikipedia . That's hardly impressive in terms of pressure.

EDIT :
According to this - http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/games/depth_press
The pressure at the deepest part of the Gulf of Thailand works out to 9.55729e+8mPa. If Barda really strikes at 69mPa that's almost 8 times the pressure. Sue is effed in the a.

Well, no. Because she held it for a whole day. Over several buildings. Whilst Namor was bombarding them with attacks.

Compared to, say, a human sized bubble - she can hold that for much longer, is my point. And much stronger.

So there is this. A bomb designed specifically to kill heroes - a nuke. Even Hulk/Thor are recoiling in fear:

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Btw, the smallest nuke I could find on that wiki page was 540 TPa. Tera. That's like a million times more pressure than Barda can output. And Susan was just about able to redirect it.

And we don't want to talk about piercing pressure. Wolverine has stabbed everyone of note - Thanos, Hulk, Gladiator, you name it.

Not Sue:

https://s9.postimg.org/g8i0578q7/B2d3_D85_FF-_E.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So there is this. A bomb designed specifically to kill heroes - a nuke. Even Hulk/Thor are recoiling in fear:

https://s9.postimg.org/r837gsjpr/xse_WA06_IDJw.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/hnjktwmnz/hch_Kx_GD8_Oto.jpg

Btw, the smallest nuke I could find on that wiki page was 540 TPa. Tera. That's like a million times more pressure than Barda can output. And Susan was just about able to redirect it.

And we don't want to talk about piercing pressure. Wolverine has stabbed everyone of note - Thanos, Hulk, Gladiator, you name it.

Not Sue:

https://s9.postimg.org/g8i0578q7/B2d3_D85_FF-_E.jpg
To be fair, she's only redirecting it and even then she admits the strain is too much. If Barda really is strong enough to support the weight of a continent even for a few seconds.........

I saw that as hyperbole, especially as we see how she strikes against an opponent who also has invisible shields...

Invisible Woman.

Still Barda.

Quickdraw win. Speeds feats be damned, until someone tells me why we're discounting Batman or Deathstroke outreacting Wally or Superman.

We don't. I don't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I try to be fair, and tbh, it's always best to try and see both sides of an argument.

If there are any, of course. Good thread here, though.
Yeah this has turned out to be pretty interesting, so thanks stirring things up.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I saw that as hyperbole
Oh I know. That's why I said 'if'. I need to look into Barda more.

Originally posted by zopzop
Oh I know. That's why I said 'if'. I need to look into Barda more.

Look at the pre crisis Mr. Miracle series. Both of them.

PC MM is pretty interesting. He actually matched strength with PC Superman.

Also beat Barda h2h (I think mind control was involved, but still..)

Wow, i dont recall MM being at that level when i was a kid!

Invisible Woman wins if she goes all out. On average? Meh, hard to call. Barda can eventually blast her into submission, but fast enough to not be attacked in turn? The ones who do that are usually overwhelmingly powerful (Hulk, Sentry, Surfer, Thor etc.). Split I guess, depending on the day Invisible Woman is having.

Originally posted by riv6672
Wow, i dont recall MM being at that level when i was a kid!

Me neither. If you're as old as I think you are, it was before our time.

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There's a scene with them locking up pro wrestling style and everything.