What are your political principles?

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Emperordmb
Simple question, what are your political principles, and how do those impact your positions on policy?

Emperordmb
Everything for me starts with the presupposition that each individual is made in the image of God, which indicates the inherent moral worth of each individual that must be upheld and respected by other people and the state, and our capacity as human beings to create the physical and social structures we dwell within, and from there comes the conceptualization of a society built on a harmony and mutual respect between the individual and the overarching social structures.

This leads me to the political philosophy of Classical Liberalism set forth by John Locke, with two overarching political principles the others develop from. The first is Individual Rights, life, liberty, and property, the protection of which must be the highest value of society, to foster mutual tolerance and respect towards the cultivation of the dignity of every person. The second of which is that of the Social Contract, the social and legal structure emergent from the articulation and creation of human beings banded together for the protection of their individual rights, to which some sacrifices must be made.

From there stems my other points of political principle:

Freedom of Speech
Freedom of expression is a necessary and fundamental pillar of a free society, because it is the mechanism by which we think, express ourselves, understand other people, keep our society functioning, and continue a conversation spanning back thousands of years responsible for the development and progress of human civilization well beyond our rate of biological evolution. The fact that we possess the capacity for articulate speech is one of the most important, fundamental, and powerful things about who we are, and as such it is one of our most essential freedoms that must be preserved. Thus aside from speech that serves as evidence of one's involvement in criminal activity or perjury, the individual's speech must not be infringed upon by the government.

Democracy
Some form of Constitutional Democracy (such as a democratic republic) is the best way for a free citizenry to maintain a state and resist tyranny, it is the link between the individual and the overarching societal structure so that the individuals within a society may adopt the responsibility for maintaining and rejuvenating the structures we dwell within. In this respect it is also important to have an armed populace, such that the people within a nation may serve as a check against the tyranny of the state.

Economic Freedom/Capitalism
Property rights that begin with personal self-ownership and private property creates the most productive societies.
Private property is important because of how it connects to the individual, it becomes an extension of their own personal expression (similar to speech), and also becomes a mechanism for self-actualization and the cultivation of virtue and competency, the development of skill (such as someone cultivating skill through something like a skateboard or video game), personal responsibility (the maintenance and caring for one's own property like a house (cleaning your room will cultivate your ability to keep the things around you in order), and the extension of the influence of the individual to being able to carve a slice of the world out for themselves where they can be secure as well as being able to reach out to other people and extend their sovereignty beyond themselves in order to more effectively participate in the process of generating the physical and social structures we dwell within. It is because of the nature of property, it's cultivation of the individual and their influence, and the harnessing of the merits and virtues of the individual that capitalism is such an effective system at generating wealth and prosperity, as well as social ties between individuals reliant on each other for a better life.

Blind Justice
Each individual should be governed by the same laws as their peers without arbitrary discrimination and be presumed innocent until proven guilty by a fair trial.
Whereas democracy is one side of the mediation between the individual and social contract, the arbitration of justice is the other messier side of that coin. To maintain the social contract and protect the rights of the innocent it is sometimes necessary for individuals to face the revocation of some of their property or liberty through criminal justice proceedings, however the protection of the individual must be paramount in this process in order to try and err on the side of protecting the individual from state force. Thus the necessity of a fair trial, the governance of individuals by the same laws as their peers, and the presumption of innocence must be built into this process.

Separation of Church and State
The Separation of Church and State is necessary to protect the individual from having the religion of another thrust upon them, and to protect religious institutions from the state (so long as they do not violate the rights of others). Religion should not be instantiated in the law, and individuals should not have their religious freedom impeded upon by the state. This does not mean however that law cannot be based upon values or culture derived from religion, (for example a religious person could push the pro-life position because their religious values lead to a respect for the sanctity of life, and that would not be thrusting religious practice on the populace), however culture must be the buffer and mediator between religion and the state. Additionally, in regards to separation of Church and state I do not think the state should tax religious institutions, but I think that carries the caveat that religious institutions shouldn't lobby... so basically a tradeoff IMO where a religious institution can have tax exemption or lobbying but not both.

Self-reliance
People possess agency and should be treated as such because treating people like victims becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When this principle falls by the wayside a few things happen. First individuals become infantilized and weakened, trapped in a self-defeating loop the individual doesn't trust themself to escape, and this exacerbates issues such as poverty. And when this principle falls by the wayside in government we see the erosion of individual rights, the personal liberty of a person to make their own life decisions when the government decides a person isn't self-reliant and must be protected from themselves, or the erosion of property rights as a government sets up the economic system more around the principle of a safety net and redistribution of wealth rather than the protection of individual rights.

National Interest
On the basis of the social contract for the protection of the rights of the individuals who dwell within and make sacrifices to the maintenance of that contract, the state has an obligation to its own people before any other, which is something that should be seen reflected in something like immigration policy. Regulated borders are thus necessary to ensure the protection of the individuals within a nation from the malevolence of anyone outside of the nation (ie. terrorists or violent criminals), or the exploitation of a nation's economic prosperity to the detriment of its own citizens (such as the migrants in Germany coming for that Merkel money), as well as the preservation of the culture within a society. Additionally this principle of national interest and respect for the social contract extends to international relations. I am not opposed to international diplomacy or agreements, but the structure of international diplomacy must be severely restricted in its capacity governance of the individuals within a nation, because international governance is removed from the input of the individual an order of magnitude more than the national government, which is too much a divide, which sets me into opposition to organizations such as the European Union. This principle could also be extended to a favorable attitude of devolution of power within a nation.

Kurk
Quite the idealist you are DMD.


My guiding principles (not just political) are:

Eat or be eaten

Everything is a means to an end

The majority of people are helpless and too ignorant to survive without being dependent on others (with the end being complete interdependence on the state and/or large companies)

Individualization is an antiquated model that's being eroded away by 21st globalization and mass media.

The illusion of civil rights, democracy, what DMD said, etc is nothing more than a facade to appease the masses (at least at the national level).

Putinbot1
As someone who moves from Country to Country working, I have a globalist opinion. Individual states and countries mean little to me, people mean more. I strive to improve communication between people. Most people do not have the skillset of qualification to live my kind of life, as a result, they think in a small-minded and bigoted fashion. Often only for personal gain. it's sad.

Beniboybling
you sound like a migrant sympathiser putinbot

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Beniboybling
you sound like a migrant sympathiser putinbot I will always sympathise with the displaced Beni. I've seen it from Cambodia to Somalia and many, many places in between over the years.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
As someone who moves from Country to Country working, I have a globalist opinion. Individual states and countries mean little to me, people mean more. I strive to improve communication between people. Most people do not have the skillset of qualification to live my kind of life, as a result, they think in a small-minded and bigoted fashion. Often only for personal gain. it's sad.

So you are an Elitist that costs by on the Power of Your White Privilage? Hmmm Not surprised by that.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
you sound like a migrant sympathiser putinbot

Nice to see the British Privileges are still set at the dry snark setting.

Originally posted by Kurk
Quite the idealist you are DMD.


My guiding principles (not just political) are:

Eat or be eaten

Everything is a means to an end

The majority of people are helpless and too ignorant to survive without being dependent on others (with the end being complete interdependence on the state and/or large companies)

Individualization is an antiquated model that's being eroded away by 21st globalization and mass media.

The illusion of civil rights, democracy, what DMD said, etc is nothing more than a facade to appease the masses (at least at the national level).

Kurk is a horrible person.

I approve.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
So you are an Elitist that costs by on the Power of Your White Privilage? Hmmm Not surprised by that.



Nice to see the British Privileges are still set at the dry snark setting.



Kurk is a horrible person.

I approve.

Thing is, in real life I would just beat you up.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Thing is, in real life I would just beat you up.

Thing is. I am sure you think you can.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Thing is. I am sure you think you can. Thing is, I would.

Silent Master
^

Internet tough guy

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Silent Master
^

Internet tough guy No, that's you with your war stories. Me, I eat sqauddies for breakfast. I have never seen a soldier win a bar fight, ever.

Silent Master
^
See what I mean, Classic internet tough guy

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Silent Master
^
See what I mean, Classic internet tough guy Classic Internet soldier.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
No, that's you with your war stories. Me, I eat sqauddies for breakfast. I have never seen a soldier win a bar fight, ever.


https://i.pinimg.com/236x/89/d8/7a/89d87a41b5aa74a8b8926dff20f81dcd.jpg

riv6672
I love my Country. I dont always agree w. my Government.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Everything for me starts with the presupposition that each individual is made in the image of God, which indicates the inherent moral worth of each individual that must be upheld and respected by other people and the state, and our capacity as human beings to create the physical and social structures we dwell within, and from there comes the conceptualization of a society built on a harmony and mutual respect between the individual and the overarching social structures.

This leads me to the political philosophy of Classical Liberalism set forth by John Locke, with two overarching political principles the others develop from. The first is Individual Rights, life, liberty, and property, the protection of which must be the highest value of society, to foster mutual tolerance and respect towards the cultivation of the dignity of every person. The second of which is that of the Social Contract, the social and legal structure emergent from the articulation and creation of human beings banded together for the protection of their individual rights, to which some sacrifices must be made.

From there stems my other points of political principle:

Freedom of Speech
Freedom of expression is a necessary and fundamental pillar of a free society, because it is the mechanism by which we think, express ourselves, understand other people, keep our society functioning, and continue a conversation spanning back thousands of years responsible for the development and progress of human civilization well beyond our rate of biological evolution. The fact that we possess the capacity for articulate speech is one of the most important, fundamental, and powerful things about who we are, and as such it is one of our most essential freedoms that must be preserved. Thus aside from speech that serves as evidence of one's involvement in criminal activity or perjury, the individual's speech must not be infringed upon by the government.

Democracy
Some form of Constitutional Democracy (such as a democratic republic) is the best way for a free citizenry to maintain a state and resist tyranny, it is the link between the individual and the overarching societal structure so that the individuals within a society may adopt the responsibility for maintaining and rejuvenating the structures we dwell within. In this respect it is also important to have an armed populace, such that the people within a nation may serve as a check against the tyranny of the state.

Economic Freedom/Capitalism
Property rights that begin with personal self-ownership and private property creates the most productive societies.
Private property is important because of how it connects to the individual, it becomes an extension of their own personal expression (similar to speech), and also becomes a mechanism for self-actualization and the cultivation of virtue and competency, the development of skill (such as someone cultivating skill through something like a skateboard or video game), personal responsibility (the maintenance and caring for one's own property like a house (cleaning your room will cultivate your ability to keep the things around you in order), and the extension of the influence of the individual to being able to carve a slice of the world out for themselves where they can be secure as well as being able to reach out to other people and extend their sovereignty beyond themselves in order to more effectively participate in the process of generating the physical and social structures we dwell within. It is because of the nature of property, it's cultivation of the individual and their influence, and the harnessing of the merits and virtues of the individual that capitalism is such an effective system at generating wealth and prosperity, as well as social ties between individuals reliant on each other for a better life.

Blind Justice
Each individual should be governed by the same laws as their peers without arbitrary discrimination and be presumed innocent until proven guilty by a fair trial.
Whereas democracy is one side of the mediation between the individual and social contract, the arbitration of justice is the other messier side of that coin. To maintain the social contract and protect the rights of the innocent it is sometimes necessary for individuals to face the revocation of some of their property or liberty through criminal justice proceedings, however the protection of the individual must be paramount in this process in order to try and err on the side of protecting the individual from state force. Thus the necessity of a fair trial, the governance of individuals by the same laws as their peers, and the presumption of innocence must be built into this process.

Separation of Church and State
The Separation of Church and State is necessary to protect the individual from having the religion of another thrust upon them, and to protect religious institutions from the state (so long as they do not violate the rights of others). Religion should not be instantiated in the law, and individuals should not have their religious freedom impeded upon by the state. This does not mean however that law cannot be based upon values or culture derived from religion, (for example a religious person could push the pro-life position because their religious values lead to a respect for the sanctity of life, and that would not be thrusting religious practice on the populace), however culture must be the buffer and mediator between religion and the state. Additionally, in regards to separation of Church and state I do not think the state should tax religious institutions, but I think that carries the caveat that religious institutions shouldn't lobby... so basically a tradeoff IMO where a religious institution can have tax exemption or lobbying but not both.

Self-reliance
People possess agency and should be treated as such because treating people like victims becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When this principle falls by the wayside a few things happen. First individuals become infantilized and weakened, trapped in a self-defeating loop the individual doesn't trust themself to escape, and this exacerbates issues such as poverty. And when this principle falls by the wayside in government we see the erosion of individual rights, the personal liberty of a person to make their own life decisions when the government decides a person isn't self-reliant and must be protected from themselves, or the erosion of property rights as a government sets up the economic system more around the principle of a safety net and redistribution of wealth rather than the protection of individual rights.

National Interest
On the basis of the social contract for the protection of the rights of the individuals who dwell within and make sacrifices to the maintenance of that contract, the state has an obligation to its own people before any other, which is something that should be seen reflected in something like immigration policy. Regulated borders are thus necessary to ensure the protection of the individuals within a nation from the malevolence of anyone outside of the nation (ie. terrorists or violent criminals), or the exploitation of a nation's economic prosperity to the detriment of its own citizens (such as the migrants in Germany coming for that Merkel money), as well as the preservation of the culture within a society. Additionally this principle of national interest and respect for the social contract extends to international relations. I am not opposed to international diplomacy or agreements, but the structure of international diplomacy must be severely restricted in its capacity governance of the individuals within a nation, because international governance is removed from the input of the individual an order of magnitude more than the national government, which is too much a divide, which sets me into opposition to organizations such as the European Union. This principle could also be extended to a favorable attitude of devolution of power within a nation.

Interesting read, thanks.

Tzeentch
I'm a lazy ****

https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-3.88&soc=-3.44

Flyattractor
http://orig06.deviantart.net/8873/f/2012/104/6/9/don__t_tread_on_me_by_vekticolor-d4w6gro.png

Tzeentch
http://i65.tinypic.com/2aexxz9.jpg

Flyattractor
And yet all of those Companies are Big Lefty "GOBERMEBNT" Supporters.

Go Fig.

Tzeentch
http://i68.tinypic.com/ja88c1.jpg

Flyattractor
https://flashpoint2016.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/socialism-ideas-so-good.jpg

Tzeentch
http://i65.tinypic.com/s3q71x.png

Bashar Teg
laughing out loud

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Tzeentch
http://i65.tinypic.com/s3q71x.png

This guy is already more of a "hero" then the current Spider"CuckLord"Man they have turned him into in the comics.

ArtificialGlory
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/ab/69/95ab69509e77e95672a021b193dbad8f--donald-trump.jpg

Flyattractor
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*U9VOGgjeIQzOQqEqQdxkLg.gif

Tzeentch
http://i65.tinypic.com/2hf07dj.png

ArtificialGlory
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1486/32/1486324920150.jpg

Flyattractor
Now that does sound like Socialism.

Tzeentch
http://i67.tinypic.com/2l8iuj5.png

Flyattractor
https://pics.onsizzle.com/cuz-this-is-a-gun-free-zone-the-jokes-on-3098308.png

Tzeentch
http://i64.tinypic.com/w1fd5s.jpg

Flyattractor
HA! Beat ya to it!

Tzeentch
http://i65.tinypic.com/i4hbwp.png

Bashar Teg
http://i.imgur.com/BR2G9Ep.jpg

Flyattractor
*reports Bashy for going on a drug fueled rant*

Tzeentch
http://i67.tinypic.com/b68t4n.png

Emperordmb
When did this become a spiderman meme thread?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Tzeentch
I'm a lazy ****

https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-3.88&soc=-3.44

According to that test I'm a left-leaning libertarian.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by Tzeentch
I'm a lazy ****

https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-3.88&soc=-3.44

My results:

Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-2.38&soc=-1.13

Apparently I'm slightly left leaning slightly libertarian. But mostly in the center.

Huh.

NewGuy01
^Political Compass focuses more on big ideas than specific policy, so its not necessarily going to be consistent with where you stand in the context of your country's politics.

In any case, here's mine:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-2.0&soc=-3.28

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Tzeentch
http://i65.tinypic.com/s3q71x.png laughing Spidey Incel

Nephthys
yeah libertarians are a cancer

as to the thread

http://i.imgur.com/11Ley.gif

this about sums it up

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Nephthys
yeah libertarians are a cancer

as to the thread

http://i.imgur.com/11Ley.gif

this about sums it up Yes it does. laughing out loud

DarthSkywalker0
Why did DMB's perfectly rational thread turn into: "retards talk about things they don't understand." If anyone wants to actually debate Libertarianism, hit me up.

Beniboybling
*gears grinding*

DarthSkywalker0
Originally posted by Beniboybling
*gears grinding*

Still waiting for my responses

Beniboybling
meet me at the football field after school.

DarthSkywalker0
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=648469&pagenumber=10

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=405188&pagenumber=3236

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=649277&pagenumber=4

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Nephthys
yeah libertarians are a cancer

as to the thread

http://i.imgur.com/11Ley.gif

this about sums it up

Kind of like how it is Legal for Gays to spread Aids in Califunny now, cause Yay for the gay.

eek!

Beniboybling
Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=648469&pagenumber=10

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=405188&pagenumber=3236

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=649277&pagenumber=4 https://media.giphy.com/media/11y8mcRPyJ4aSk/giphy.gif

Putinbot1
Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
Why did DMB's perfectly rational thread turn into: "retards talk about things they don't understand." If anyone wants to actually debate Libertarianism, hit me up. Discuss Politics when you have a vote and your voice counts son. Till then keep regurgitating what you're told by the people who house and feed you.

DarthSkywalker0
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Discuss Politics when you have a vote and your voice counts son. Till then keep regurgitating what you're told by the people who house and feed you.

Yes, my liberal dad and my moderate mom fill my brain up with ultra-right ideas.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
Yes, my liberal dad and my moderate mom fill my brain up with ultra-right ideas. Oh, you're "ultra-right wing", thanks for the admission. They must be greatly disappointed in that case kid.

DarthSkywalker0
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Oh, you're "ultra-right wing", thanks for the admission. They must be greatly disappointed in that case kid.

As I said, I would be happy to debate, as you seem adamant on chastising, but refuse to back it up.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Oh, you're "ultra-right wing", thanks for the admission. They must be greatly disappointed in that case kid.
Wtf lol, you're acting like he just confessed to a crime lol.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
As I said, I would be happy to debate, as you seem adamite to chastise, but refuse to back it up. Adamant? or I am a mineral or early Christian to chastise?

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Wtf lol, you're acting like he just confessed to a crime lol. No, just being ultra-right wing. Which whilst disgusting isn't criminal in itself.

Emperordmb
Some of the younger people on this forum are right-wingers

KMC Lefties: "Their opinions aren't worth as much because they haven't lived life as long as we have, they're in large part just regurgitating what they were told. We should make two threads jerking ourselves off for being older!"

David Hogg speaks out in public in favor of the left-wing agenda, says horrible shit about his political opponents, and is too young to vote and doesn't display an actual in depth understanding of gun policy

KMC Lefties: "It's good that he's speaking out! He deserves to have a voice in politics and push this issue, and call for boycotts against people who insult him! How dare you suggest he doesn't know much or criticize him for not knowing what he's talking about!"

DarthSkywalker0, someone who would honestly beat anyone else here in a political debate because he makes very logical arguments and is familiar with the statistics and evidence behind his political stances

KMC Lefties: "PFFFFTTT he's just some autistic kid, he's too young to know anything, probably just regurgitating everything from his parents! He can't even vote! He should shut up till he's old enough to vote"

https://i.imgflip.com/27z7yb.gif

SquallX
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Some of the younger people on this forum are right-wingers

KMC Lefties: "Their opinions aren't worth as much because they haven't lived life as long as we have, they're in large part just regurgitating what they were told. We should make two threads jerking ourselves off for being older!"

David Hogg speaks out in public in favor of the left-wing agenda, says horrible shit about his political opponents, and is too young to vote and doesn't display an actual in depth understanding of gun policy

KMC Lefties: "It's good that he's speaking out! He deserves to have a voice in politics and push this issue, and call for boycotts against people who insult him! How dare you suggest he doesn't know much or criticize him for not knowing what he's talking about!"

DarthSkywalker0, someone who would honestly beat anyone else here in a political debate because he makes very logical arguments and is familiar with the statistics and evidence behind his political stances

KMC Lefties: "PFFFFTTT he's just some autistic kid, he's too young to know anything, probably just regurgitating everything from his parents! He can't even vote! He should shut up till he's old enough to vote"

https://i.imgflip.com/27z7yb.gif

So ****ing true

DarthSkywalker0
https://i.imgur.com/zNP85pW.gif

Beniboybling
darth harry just confessed to being an extremist

lock him up.

Putinbot1
Funny thing is, none of us older leftists are interested in heated debates with 14-year-olds like the ultra-right-wing autistic kid or simpletons like Fly and DMB.

Kurk
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Funny thing is, none of us older leftists are interested in heated debates with 14-year-olds like the ultra-right-wing autistic kid or simpletons like Fly and DMB. I'm pretty sure DMD would kick your ass at any technical problem-solving task. The kid apparently got a 5 on his AP Calculus BC exam. So simpleton is not the right word.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Kurk
I'm pretty sure DMD would kick your ass at any technical problem-solving task. The kid apparently got a 5 on his AP Calculus BC exam. So simpleton is not the right word. Look up PISA kid, it will tell you all you need to know about American Maths and Science Education in High School. It's an interesting table to read. Ha!

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/pisa-a-glance-global-education-rankings-science-maths-and-reading

No offence, America doesn't even get in the top 40 countries for Maths at Highschool.

Your grades really are seen as shit world wide.

Kurk
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Look up PISA kid, it will tell you all you need to know about American Maths and Science Education in High School. It's an interesting table to read. Ha!

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/pisa-a-glance-global-education-rankings-science-maths-and-reading

No offence, America doesn't even get in the top 40 countries for Maths at Highschool.

Your grades really are seen as shit world wide. Nice deflection dude. I'm the first one to criticize the American education system when given the opportunity, but that's irrelevant to the fact that DMD would mop the floor with you at any sort of technical problem-solving task. The majority of American high-school students do not take AP classes, and of those who do, only a few manage to make those tip-top marks. DMD is a bright young man who's future projects him having much market value as an engineer.

It must really suck having to relocate so often for your shitty marketing job.

NewGuy01
why do you call him dmd

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Kurk
Nice deflection dude. I'm the first one to criticize the American education system when given the opportunity, but that's irrelevant to the fact that DMD would mop the floor with you at any sort of technical problem-solving task. The majority of American high-school students do not take AP classes, and of those who do, only a few manage to make those tip-top marks. DMD is a bright young man who's future projects him having much market value as an engineer.

It must really suck having to relocate so often for your shitty marketing job. Son, I have my degrees and when I read how poor most of the English from you kids is I doubt you have any education. For instance, your use of who's when it should be whose in you ad-hominem attack above. I just smile at your need to prove yourselves and how you fail in your own language. It was like Darthskywalker not knowing how to spell adamant.

Why would I want to get into a heated debate with kids who can't even spell? You validate PISA with every post.

Nephthys
Libertarianism is a disease. I can only hope that one day bright youths DarthSkywalker0 and DMB can rid themselves of the infection.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Nephthys
Libertarianism is a disease. I can only hope that one day bright youths DarthSkywalker0 and DMB can rid themselves of the infection. It's possible when they grow up.

Tzeentch
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Kind of like how it is Legal for Gays to spread Aids in Califunny now, cause Yay for the gay.

eek! https://images.genius.com/2f2e55fec31ddb9d06b7f3536d7d2c20.900x550x1.png

Nephthys
Yeah, I used to be pretty fascist when I was young so if I'm evidence of anything they have a chance.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Tzeentch
https://images.genius.com/2f2e55fec31ddb9d06b7f3536d7d2c20.900x550x1.png laughing out loud laughing rolling on floor laughing

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, I used to be pretty fascist when I was young so if I'm evidence of anything they have a chance. Agreed, I never was, but I knew many who were and most of them grew out of it.

Kurk
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Son, I have my degrees and when I read how poor most of the English from you kids is I doubt you have any education. For instance, your use of who's when it should be whose in you ad-hominem attack above. I just smile at your need to prove yourselves and how you fail in your own language. It was like Darthskywalker not knowing how to spell adamant.

Why would I want to get into a heated debate with kids who can't even spell? You validate PISA with every post. Lol keep deflecting the main points and instead attack my grammatical errors in hastily written forum posts. I've won multiple awards for my abilities as an orator throughout my academic career.

The thing is, despite my gift in the liberal arts, I choose to pursue STEM fields as I know that it's the only way for me to gain market value. Nobody gives a shit about how 'cultured' you are. I can only imagine how desperate you were for a job that you settled for one requiring frequent relocation.

RHaggis
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, I used to be pretty fascist when I was young so if I'm evidence of anything they have a chance.

Do you mean genuinely Fascist in the same vein as Mussolini, Oswald Mosely and the likes, or the modern Leftist interpretation of "Fascist" which is basic mainstream Conservatism?

Nephthys
Originally posted by RHaggis
Do you mean genuinely Fascist in the same vein as Mussolini, Oswald Mosely and the likes, or the modern Leftist interpretation of "Fascist" which is basic mainstream Conservatism?

It was mainly a juvenile belief that a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government along with all sorts of ideas about how to handle things.

I was never so despicable that you'd call me a conservative.

SquallX
Originally posted by Nephthys
It was mainly a juvenile belief that a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government along with all sorts of ideas about how to handle things.

I was never so despicable that you'd call me a conservative.

So you were never so despicable to call yourself a conservative?

Jesus Mary Joseph!

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Kurk
Lol keep deflecting the main points and instead attack my grammatical errors in hastily written forum posts. I've won multiple awards for my abilities as an orator throughout my academic career.

The thing is, despite my gift in the liberal arts, I choose to pursue STEM fields as I know that it's the only way for me to gain market value. Nobody gives a shit about how 'cultured' you are. I can only imagine how desperate you were for a job that you settled for one requiring frequent relocation. Kid, when you have a job, you can talk about the workplace.

Kurk
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Kid, when you have a job, you can talk about the workplace. I do.

Flyattractor
Pooty has a Job! His job is to IMAGINE He is a Likable Person.

The Ellimist
I'm a happiness maximizing utilitarian, though a functioning legal system needs to act as though it were either deontological or rule-based utilitarian in 95% of cases.

I think these are really important:

1. Safe and efficient technological advancement.

2. Effective defensive measures against existential threats.

3. Intellectual, creative and political freedom (to reasonable practical limits).

4. A level of earned trust in necessary institutions, e.g. low levels of corruption, safe drinking water, etc.

5. More controversial but a high level of talent being drawn or otherwise instantiated in your society.

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