Why doesn't America clean up at Sports?

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Putinbot1
Team USA has as many people to choose from and more than Europe. Why isn't it champion at everything?

Take the recent Winter Olympics, won by Norway.

Norway has a population half that of New York City...

Even in the Olympics which it wins with 121 medals, you have to consider Britain gets 67 a country with the population of two states.

Even in things like heavyweight boxing which the US once ruled, they haven't had an undisputed champion in almost 2 decades.

In minority sports in the US like Soccer more people play it than in Germany, Holland and Italy combined.

Why is America so unathletic and why does it seem on the decline.

I know you have your own sports, which pretty much no one else in the world gives a shit about except Basketball that is, which you are the best at, thank god you have some tall athletic black men.

So in seriousness what's the problem?

Flyattractor
Leftist Mind Set where Everybody is a WINNER have helped put a Damper on The Competitive American Spirit. The Left has put a HUGE Empathizes on the idea that being COMPETITIVE is a Bad Thing.

Any other questions?

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Leftist Mind Set where Everybody is a WINNER have helped put a Damper on The Competitive American Spirit. The Left has put a HUGE Empathizes on the idea that being COMPETITIVE is a Bad Thing.

Any other questions? Well Socialist countries like Norway do OK.

Flyattractor
But only in sports where you can slip on ice. That is just Environmental Up Bringing.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
But only in sports where you can slip on ice. That is just Environmental Up Bringing. Yeah but you have lots of ski resorts too and far more skiers etc.

Putinbot1
I mean the USA holds 20 belts across the different boxing federations.
The UK held 12 last time I looked.

The has a population slightly larger than California.

Flyattractor
Have to be careful hitting a British Person. They will start to cry and make you look bad for beating them up.

Nephthys
They are weak.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Have to be careful hitting a British Person. They will start to cry and make you look bad for beating them up. Yeah because, lennox lewis certainly cried... Hang on Riddick Bowe put the belt in the bin rather than fight him and Oliver McCall had a nervous breakdown in the rematch with him and did cry.

Flyattractor
Aww. You like to watch Scantaly Clothed men touch each other.

Good For You PootyBot!

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Aww. You like to watch Scantaly Clothed men touch each other.

Good For You PootyBot! I've never heard boxing described like that before Fly...

Let's move on to why Americans created their own sports and then broke them up into such small chunks no flow of play is established to advertise fast food.

And it's scantily, my spelling b challenged simpleton.

Flyattractor
Why were the Sports Broke Up?

Because that is how Leftist Corporations and Leftist Run Governments have made it.

The Left RUINS everything it TOUCHES!

American Sports being a Prime Example.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I've never heard boxing described like that before Fly...


Would you have preferred that I made a point that you seem to enjoy watching men commit acts of Violence against each other,and You yourself have made comments about enjoying committing said same acts yourself?

What type of Personal Judgement calls could we make about You then?


That you are a....HORRIBLE PERSON mayhaps?

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Why were the Sports Broke Up?

Because that is how Leftist Corporations and Leftist Run Governments have made it.

The Left RUINS everything it TOUCHES!

American Sports being a Prime Example. So the left is Capitalist Corporations? Really Fly? P-please go on...

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor


Would you have preferred that I made a point that you seem to enjoy watching men commit acts of Violence against each other,and You yourself have made comments about enjoying committing said same acts yourself?

What type of Personal Judgement calls could we make about You then?


That you are a....HORRIBLE PERSON mayhaps? That's not the point you made, yours was veiled and homophobic.

Perhaps you are a... Horrible Person, on just a biatch?

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
So the left is Capitalist Corporations? Really Fly? P-please go on...

Surprisingly Yes. Many Large Multi Billion Dollar Corporations are INDEED Far Left Supporters. They have USED the Very Successful Capitalist System to back their Corrupt Leftist Dogmas.

Its called HYPOCRISY!!!!!

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Surprisingly Yes. Many Large Multi Billion Dollar Corporations are INDEED Far Left Supporters. They have USED the Very Successful Capitalist System to back their Corrupt Leftist Dogmas.

Its called HYPOCRISY!!!!! Your black and white world view is quite ridiculous, as I am sure you are aware.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
That's not the point you made, yours was veiled and homophobic.

Perhaps you are a... Horrible Person, on just a biatch?

Same could be pointed out for your American Hating View Points and the way you ridicule those that have different values then yours.

Rubber and Glue and all that.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Your black and white world view is quite ridiculous, as I am sure you are aware.

Nope. The Gray Concept that People like You Cling To is the TRULY Ridiculous Way of handling things.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Same could be pointed out for your American Hating View Points and the way you ridicule those that have different values then yours.

Rubber and Glue and all that.



Nope. The Gray Concept that People like You Cling To is the TRULY Ridiculous Way of handling things.

I don't hate America at all, I like many Americans and much American pop culture.


I have no grey concept, I believe many motivations colour actions, the concept of all rightists and all leftists being the same is ridiculous, like you.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I don't hate America at all, I like many Americans and much American pop culture.


I have no grey concept, I believe many motivations colour actions, the concept of all rightists and all leftists being the same is ridiculous, like you.

And yet so much of "Modern" American Pop Culture has a large foundation in America Hating. Funny that.

I don't think that The Concepts of Rightists and Leftists are "The Same".

I think the Leftists are WRONG!


eek!

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
And yet so much of "Modern" American Pop Culture has a large foundation in America Hating. Funny that.

I don't think that The Concepts of Rightists and Leftists are "The Same".

I think the Leftists are WRONG!


eek! Channelling DMB if he had decent grammar and sentence structure, "some pretentions, simplistic shit" meaning "Fly you really are a shit troll, you need to get people to emotionally invest in your trolling."

Night you **** smile

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Channelling DMB if he had decent grammar and sentence structure, "some pretentions, simplistic shit" meaning "Fly you really are a shit troll, you need to get people to emotionally invest in your trolling."

Night you **** smile

Giving up already?

And after going on a name calling rant to..

OH well.


eek!

Emperordmb
What is your weird obsession with me putinbot?

Flyattractor
It is connected to his Boxing Obsession.

snowdragon
Originally posted by Flyattractor
It is connected to his Boxing Obsession.

It's more than that, his boxing steroid GHBsmile Plus he's old and doesn't want to admit it so he's an internet toughiesmile

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Team USA has as many people to choose from and more than Europe. Why isn't it champion at everything?

Take the recent Winter Olympics, won by Norway.

Norway has a population half that of New York City...

Even in the Olympics which it wins with 121 medals, you have to consider Britain gets 67 a country with the population of two states.

Even in things like heavyweight boxing which the US once ruled, they haven't had an undisputed champion in almost 2 decades.

In minority sports in the US like Soccer more people play it than in Germany, Holland and Italy combined.

Why is America so unathletic and why does it seem on the decline.

I know you have your own sports, which pretty much no one else in the world gives a shit about except Basketball that is, which you are the best at, thank god you have some tall athletic black men.

So in seriousness what's the problem?

I think the real question is "Why is Norway so awesome?"

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I think the real question is "Why is Norway so awesome?" Well, this is another question. I just chose the most extreme example. I mean Germany and Canada also ended up above the US.

I could use the decline in American Male Tennis. One player in the top ten, Isner at 9. I could use golf where 9 of the top 20 are yanks including the top two and yet again 5 of the top twenty are British. A nation with a population not much bigger than California.

Is it Burgers? That make America underperform? Is Trump the truest American of all?

samhain
Without knowing more about how the US handles it's approach to the grass roots side of global sports, (not including so called 'American sports', baseball, etc,) It's a tricky one. From the outside it seems like they really focus on domestic sports which only they compete in at a youth level, some track & field too and I do get the impression that there are a lot of tennis academies. I reckon the answer most likely lies in the grass roots side of things, it usually does.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by samhain
Without knowing more about how the US handles it's approach to the grass roots side of global sports, (not including so called 'American sports', baseball, etc,) It's a tricky one. From the outside it seems like they really focus on domestic sports which only they compete in at a youth level, some track & field too and I do get the impression that there are a lot of tennis academies. I reckon the answer most likely lies in the grass roots side of things, it usually does. I suspect it's more than grassroots it's a malaise among the Americans themselves, those homegrown sports have ridiculous things like an average of only 15 minutes actual ball in play in an NFL game... and more actual advertising and changing players. Weird shit.

Flyattractor
I think it is just that you smoked too much GRASS as a kid and it gave you brain derangement syndrome.

That would explain so much.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Well, this is another question. I just chose the most extreme example. I mean Germany and Canada also ended up above the US.

I could use the decline in American Male Tennis. One player in the top ten, Isner at 9. I could use golf where 9 of the top 20 are yanks including the top two and yet again 5 of the top twenty are British. A nation with a population not much bigger than California.

Is it Burgers? That make America underperform? Is Trump the truest American of all?

Canada and Germany are also awesome though.

playa1258
The USA is by far the medal leader in the Olympics. As far as soccer goes the best American athletes play basketball, baseball and football. Soccer gets the athletes who could not hang in the big three.

StyleTime
Putin, population size doesn't necessarily have the effect on athletic performance you're thinking it does. It's not like twice the people automatically means twice the medals, or else China would win everything all the time.

America performs fine in boxing regardless, but there is a lot more talent going to MMA though. Most of the current UFC champs are American, along with many of the contenders. The closest competing organization outside the U.S. has a heavyweight champ that got largely smashed when he fought here. And a bantamweight champ that got slapped by an American gatekeeper.

Can't win 'em all obviously, but let's be real here...
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I think the real question is "Why is Norway so awesome?"
thumb up The U.N. voted Norway the best place to live on Earth.

Flyattractor
Hey you 2! Stop bringing FACTS into a PootyButBot Thread.

Todd1700
Originally posted by playa1258
The USA is by far the medal leader in the Olympics. As far as soccer goes the best American athletes play basketball, baseball and football. Soccer gets the athletes who could not hang in the big three.

There are only so many elite athletes in any country. The three biggest sports in America are American Football, basketball and baseball. All the best athletes go to those because in America they are the most popular and that is where the money is. And America does dominate in those sports.There are individual athletes in those sports here who probably make more a year than most of the pro soccer team players combined. I'd hate to even toss out a guess as to how many kids are involved with those three sports from pee wee or little league up to the college level in a given year. The very best will make the pros and therefore never need to play another sport. But even for those who don't make it to the pro level by the time they do peek at some lower level it's pretty late in the game by then to switch to another sport.

Also most of the elite athletes of the world are playing a sport they have been playing and loved since childhood. And many of those international sports just are not very popular here with kids. Soccer is increasing in popularity with more and more high schools fielding teams but it's going to be a long slow climb to get anywhere near the top 3.

As for winter sports, take a ruler and level it across the northern border of Tennessee. Then draw a horizontal line across the USA. Everybody under that line probably sees an accumulation of snow about once every 3 years. If your family has to get on a plane to fly somewhere that you can ski then odds are you will not be growing up to win a medal in the winter olympics.

Lastly, and I don't want to make a major deal of this one, but a good number of the people who win medals for countries other than the USA spent the 4 years prior to the olympics living and training here in the USA. Usually on a scholarship at one of our colleges. Then 2 weeks before the olympics they board a plane; fly back to Cameroon or some such place and then show up at the olympics to compete against the country they have actually been living in for the last 4 years. That's bullshit in my opinion. Hell in the last olympics down in Brazil I watched a boxing match between an American boxer and a boxer representing Haiti. The kid from Haiti had been born and raised in Brooklyn his whole life. More bullshit. All that sort of crap started when they let Zola Budd compete for another country because South Africa had been banned from the olympics that year.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Canada and Germany are also awesome though. Liberal paradises.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by StyleTime
Putin, population size doesn't necessarily have the effect on athletic performance you're thinking it does. It's not like twice the people automatically means twice the medals, or else China would win everything all the time.

America performs fine in boxing regardless, but there is a lot more talent going to MMA though. Most of the current UFC champs are American, along with many of the contenders. The closest competing organization outside the U.S. has a heavyweight champ that got largely smashed when he fought here. And a bantamweight champ that got slapped by an American gatekeeper.

Can't win 'em all obviously, but let's be real here...

thumb up The U.N. voted Norway the best place to live on Earth. Well, actually population should have exactly that effect. I'll grant you the British Isles isn't the best choice because we have proven time and time again we are a bit special and even though we are only one and a half states in population, if you scale us up to your size nobody else in the world would win anything. As for MMA, the rules favour wrestlers and tbh, the modern UFC is pretty much just a way for poor strikers and college wrestlers to pretend they are martial artists.

Pride rules were much fairer.

I say Khmer boxing rules all round for striking + football kicks to the head. Now that's real MMA.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by playa1258
The USA is by far the medal leader in the Olympics. As far as soccer goes the best American athletes play basketball, baseball and football. Soccer gets the athletes who could not hang in the big three. Scale the UK up to one eighth the size of the US and it wouldn't be and yes, thank god Black men are athletic in the US. You would have hardly anyone to watch with any sporting prowess except for the legacy of slavery.

snowdragon
Originally posted by Putinbot1


So in seriousness what's the problem?

Team American stopped playing kiddy games and decided to worksmile

Tone down your steroids and hgh and you might become more reasonable as well, although not very competitive in the gymsmile

Putinbot1
Originally posted by snowdragon
Team American stopped playing kiddy games and decided to worksmile

Tone down your steroids and hgh and you might become more reasonable as well, although not very competitive in the gymsmile Trust me kid, I don't need to brag. I lifted more than most kids dabbling with gear before my first course. Team America have more people to draw from than the whole of Europe and the worlds strongest man is still a Brit. wink

snowdragon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Trust me kid, I don't need to brag. I lifted more than most kids dabbling with gear before my first course. Team America have more people to draw from than the whole of Europe and the worlds strongest man is still a Brit. wink

Good for the britssmile Those folks sacrifice alot to achieve those goals, if the Brits win it over the USA then I say good on them.

One thing that is difficult for many people to grasp is the sacrifice athletes make to achieve their goals. In the USA we don't support our amateur athletes as well as other countries.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by snowdragon
Good for the britssmile Those folks sacrifice alot to achieve those goals, if the Brits win it over the USA then I say good on them.

One thing that is difficult for many people to grasp is the sacrifice athletes make to achieve their goals. In the USA we don't support our amateur athletes as well as other countries. You have scholarships to universities for them, something most countries don't do.

snowdragon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
You have scholarships to universities for them, something most countries don't do.

You and I both know scholarships are for academics and do not help you perform in athletics unless you mean, of course, it eases financial responsibilities so they stress less.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by snowdragon
You and I both know scholarships are for academics and do not help you perform in athletics unless you mean, of course, it eases financial responsibilities so they stress less. Another example of "Academic Integrity" falling by the wayside in the US is just how some of the academic scholarships are attained. wink

SquallX
Who cares! There are far better things to worry about then sports, and which country as more medals.

StyleTime
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Well, actually population should have exactly that effect.

I'll grant you the British Isles isn't the best choice because we have proven time and time again we are a bit special and even though we are only one and a half states in population, if you scale us up to your size nobody else in the world would win anything. As for MMA, the rules favour wrestlers and tbh, the modern UFC is pretty much just a way for poor strikers and college wrestlers to pretend they are martial artists.

Pride rules were much fairer.

I say Khmer boxing rules all round for striking + football kicks to the head. Now that's real MMA.
But, it doesn't.

While I preferred most of Pride rules too, UFC rules don't favor wrestlers over anyone. When you can wall walk and guard stall for a ref reset, there's definitely added work for the wrestler. Pride rules actually helped the wrestler by preventing this. The poor strikers and college wrestlers comment is just bias on your part. Olympic wrestlers and world class strikers abound. They, like everyone else, require adjustments to their game once in MMA environments, so they remove "pure" elements that work better in a single-art environment. That's why it looks different.

Khmer boxing isn't MMA any more than Muay Thai or kickboxing are. You're not going to tune in to GLORY if you want to see ankle picks.
Originally posted by SquallX
Who cares! There are far better things to worry about then sports, and which country as more medals.
I agree. And there's been great athletes from all over the world. I just have too much time on my hands tbh.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by StyleTime
But, it doesn't.

While I preferred most of Pride rules too, UFC rules don't favor wrestlers over anyone. When you can wall walk and guard stall for a ref reset, there's definitely added work for the wrestler. Pride rules actually helped the wrestler by preventing this. The poor strikers and college wrestlers comment is just bias on your part. Olympic wrestlers and world class strikers abound. They, like everyone else, require adjustments to their game once in MMA environments, so they remove "pure" elements that work better in a single-art environment. That's why it looks different.

Khmer boxing isn't MMA any more than Muay Thai or kickboxing are. You're not going to tune in to GLORY if you want to see ankle picks.

I agree. And there's been great athletes from all over the world. I just have too much time on my hands tbh. World class strikers do not abound, seriously Floyd Mayweather is a world-class striker and I honestly believe he carried McGregor. The lack of downward elbows in the clinch and actually anywhere favours wrestlers as you cannot drop elbows on the top of the head, you can in Khmer boxing.

Hey we had these chats a lot once and in the old days you could see through my motives better.

Flyattractor
You and your enjoyment of watching violence. You should be institutionalized.

StyleTime
Originally posted by Putinbot1
World class strikers do not abound, seriously Floyd Mayweather is a world-class striker and I honestly believe he carried McGregor. The lack of downward elbows in the clinch and actually anywhere favours wrestlers as you cannot drop elbows on the top of the head, you can in Khmer boxing.

Hey we had these chats a lot once and in the old days you could see through my motives better.
Nah, there's plenty. Wonderboy, Joanna, Valentina, Overeem, etc. Plenty of people of people could outstrike Mayweather in UFC though. There's more to striking than boxing. Heck, Mayweather would get mauled under the same Thai-style rules you're mentioning. We've already seen the pure boxing vs Muay Thai/kickboxing style-against-style days. Almost never ended well for the boxer. Punches+kicks/knees/elbows > punches only. UFC 223 just reinforced that too with Kyle/Kabit and Moicano/Katar.


Ah. I admit you fooled me, although I had a hunch. Nice to see you lmao.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by StyleTime
Nah, there's plenty. Wonderboy, Joanna, Valentina, Overeem, etc. Plenty of people of people could outstrike Mayweather in UFC though. There's more to striking than boxing. Heck, Mayweather would get mauled under the same Thai-style rules you're mentioning.


Ah. I admit you fooled me, although I had a hunch. Nice to see you lmao. Nice to see you too smile

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Nice to see you too smile

Something NO ONE has ever said about Pootybutt.

smokin'

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Something NO ONE has ever said about Pootybutt.

smokin' No crazy rightist anyway smile

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