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No rest between fights.

Oh, and Superman has a Phantom Zone Projector.

1. Gladiator, Hyperion, Mr. Majestic.

2. Despero, World War Hulk, The General.

3. Mangog, Starro the Conquerer (Rebels humanoid), Sentry.

4. Dark Phoenix

5. Franklin Richards.

LOL.

Dies at 1.

mr majestic would shit on sentry

no comment on the gauntlet

He clears due to his showing against the Probes.

Sentry would shitstomp Mr Majestic at the height of his power and the DC Universe.

On topic, yes Superman stands no chance at all and you can see why there is how much Sentry Envy. XD

Originally posted by MrMind


no comment on the gauntlet pathetic


Stops at 1

Originally posted by carver9
He clears due to his showing against the Probes. Superman drops his mental blocks and wills himself a million times stronger and faster and then beat them all at once. 😁

Originally posted by JBL
Superman drops his mental blocks and wills himself a million times stronger and faster and then beat them all at once. 😁

Got one better. He gets angry to the point that his strength cap is thrown out of the window and he starts internally amplifying himself with his dynamic strength and push War World into all of them with utter ease crushing their bodies (and no needed sun amp like he had to do before due to that dynamic powa).

Some of you guys are so butt hurt.

Originally posted by cdtm
No rest between fights.

Oh, and Superman has a Phantom Zone Projector.

1. Gladiator, Hyperion, Mr. Majestic.

2. Despero, World War Hulk, The General.

3. Mangog, Starro the Conquerer (Rebels humanoid), Sentry.

4. Dark Phoenix

5. Franklin Richards.
With the Phantom Zone Projector he stops at 4 or 5.

Originally posted by SquallX
Some of you guys are so butt hurt. wouldn't you be a bit upset if one particular group kept throwing around high end showings while lowballing their opponents? Not excusing the obvious salt, just advocating a different viewpoint.

Here we go again with this crap. ACTUAL proof is when Superman CANNOT take captain Marvel in a armwrestling match to determine who is stronger. Both at MAXIMUM strength.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman drops his mental blocks and wills himself a million times stronger and faster and then beat them all at once. 😁

Originally posted by carver9
Got one better. He gets angry to the point that his strength cap is thrown out of the window and he starts internally amplifying himself with his dynamic strength and push War World into all of them with utter ease crushing their bodies (and no needed sun amp like he had to do before due to that dynamic powa).


Hey guys....






























Cry more.

@Squal..

Spiderman is one character. Would you like for me to name another one?

Originally posted by carver9
@Squal..

Spiderman is one character. Would you like for me to name another one?

Failed to see my point there boyo!

Didn't bother to read who he is fighting but Supes clears

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry would shitstomp Mr Majestic at the height of his power and the DC Universe.

On topic, yes Superman stands no chance at all and you can see why there is how much Sentry Envy. XD

sentry gets stomped by killer croc

Superman dynamically dies at 1

Easily clears

Originally posted by tkitna
Superman dynamically dies at 1

Originally posted by carver9
@Squal..

Spiderman is one character. Would you like for me to name another one? True. What they don't understand or want to hear is that superman can suppress his strength mentally but he CANNOT raise it UNLESS he sundip. Same as my car, 500 hp MAXIMUM.( set in stone ). Now my had pedal determine how much hp I use when driving. I can be anywhere from 146 hp to 500 hp, I can always go down or hold back. BUT my MAXIMUM or SET IN STONE hp is 500, I CANNOT raise it UNLESS I add nitros or a supercharger or sundip. Just because superman holds back and weaken himself does NOT mean he had dynamic strength. My car does not have dynamic strength because it cannot exceed its max. Just like superman CANNOT. In other words, superman can operate anywhere from class 10 to class 100, but he sure as hell cannot go from class 100 to anything higher without amping. That's why he BA , CM are in the same strength class at max.

Hyperion, Gladiator and Majestic are all similarly fast with enhanced senses and intelligence. Majestic especially is potently smart. Unless Superman gets the drop on them, and gets Majestic first with a bfr from the projector, how is Superman winning? With one glance, Majestic would know that Superman is holding a dimensional displacer. The projector is also super f*cking obvious and hard to miss.

I struggle to understand why his opponents would be standing around as he bfrs, them one at a time with a giant magnifying glass? He stops at 1 unless we're assuming Superman is CIS free and everyone else is brain dead.

I don't see how the projector would even change the fight much against Majestic one on one? Did it get a revamp into something less obvious?

Majestic was thrown into phantom zone by Eradicator.

Also lulz at Hyperion, Gladiator or Majestic being similarly fast as Superman.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RqaJRQIBeF4/VgjnkP2RwSI/AAAAAAAAFpI/1IfhMVZx7dU/s1600/3105614- adventures%252Bof%252Bsuperman%252B%2523624%252Bp0
18.jpg

Yes, he jumped him from behind. I had the scene in mind when I made my post. Majestic would render it useless immediately.

All 3 have FTL perceptions except maybe Majestic in terms of flight? With Gladiator having one of the greatest speed feats I can think of recently. At the end of the day, they are all fast enough to match him 99% of the time.

I know you're a barely functioning human being, but do you actually think he'd be shown as having a speed edge over those 3 to make any difference?

You're all insane.

Except maybe Rage. Maybe.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hyperion, Gladiator and Majestic are all similarly fast with enhanced senses and intelligence. Majestic especially is potently smart. Unless Superman gets the drop on them, and gets Majestic first with a bfr from the projector, how is Superman winning? With one glance, Majestic would know that Superman is holding a dimensional displacer. The projector is also super f*cking obvious and hard to miss.

I struggle to understand why his opponents would be standing around as he bfrs, them one at a time with a giant magnifying glass? He stops at 1 unless we're assuming Superman is CIS free and everyone else is brain dead.

I don't see how the projector would even change the fight much against Majestic one on one? Did it get a revamp into something less obvious?

When two characters are equal speed then they would appear to be moving in human speed relative to another human.

That means there isn't shit anyone can do if Superman has a projector aimed at them. Remember his perceptions cancels out their speed, and battle distance is 0.5km away.

Hey Pr. Long time, how is everything? Are you in Europe or back in NA?

Superman with a PZ projector against anyone of similar power should be an easy win for him, no?

How the **** do you avoid getting hit by a projector?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Majestic was thrown into phantom zone by Eradicator.

Also lulz at Hyperion, Gladiator or Majestic being similarly fast as Superman. Show superman flying anywhere close to 200 light years in minutes.

Wow, this actually got replies.

Aaanyway, stops at 1 i guess.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RqaJRQIBeF4/VgjnkP2RwSI/AAAAAAAAFpI/1IfhMVZx7dU/s1600/3105614- adventures%252Bof%252Bsuperman%252B%2523624%252Bp0
18.jpg

Yes, he jumped him from behind. I had the scene in mind when I made my post. Majestic would render it useless immediately.

Based on what exactly?

Lulz at Hyperion or Gladiator able to match Superman. Majestic I can even argue about.

What has Hyperion or Gladiator ever done to show they will be able to do that?

Gladiator crossing galaxies? Please, GLs do that all the time and Zod just blitzed the **** out of several GLs like whoa.



I know you are a drooling retard but try to make arguments which make even a little sense.

Yes, he has shown time and again to have advantages in speed to several of his clones.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're all insane.

Except maybe Rage. Maybe.


Originally posted by JBL
Show superman flying anywhere close to 200 light years in minutes.

Then GLs would be faster than everyone right?

But yeah, look at Superman flying from Earth to the center of the universe.


https://s6.postimg.org/hn76ndllt/Action_Comics_2016-_992-011.jpg

https://s6.postimg.org/awqpdy65t/Action_Comics_2016-_992-012.jpg

https://s6.postimg.org/6nlzbtsmp/Action_Comics_2016-_992-013.jpg

Transluminal space only allows FTL travel without worrying about laws of physics.

http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5902.jpg

....Do you know why moving at C+ is impressive? Hint: Laws of "......"? The idiocy is impressive.

"Hey, look at Superman lifting this heavy object in a dimension where mass and gravity do not exist."

Smh. Every once in a while you make a most that makes me realize it's pointless even formulating replies.

Most people would think it was teleportation with a glance tbh. I dek why you're still trying to con people with that scene. Your own description actually makes it less impressive ironically.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
....Do you know why moving at C+ is impressive? Hint: Laws of "......"? The idiocy is impressive.

"Hey, look at Superman lifting this heavy object in a dimension where mass and gravity do not exist."

You're acting like Transluminal space doesn't has laws of physics.

That's why I called you a drooling retard.

Yeah if only that was Thor, it would be the best speed showing ever.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're acting like Transluminal space doesn't has laws of physics.

That's why I called you a drooling retard.

Yeah if only that was Thor, it would be the best speed showing ever. That's not a speed feat. Lol. More like a portal lantern opened and assisted superman. Nice try though👍

Originally posted by JBL
That's not a speed feat. Lol. More like a portal lantern opened and assisted superman. Nice try though👍

Hilariously, a bunch of featless, recently empowered, Daxamites are Superman-level in Abhi's book but Hyperion & Co are weaker.

And teleporting via moving through a portal isn't a speed feat.

It's not even relevant to a combat situation.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Superman with a PZ projector against anyone of similar power should be an easy win for him, no?

How the **** do you avoid getting hit by a projector?

Kris is th only voice of sanity.

I refuse to acknowledge that it was h1 who made this valid point first.

Originally posted by JBL
That's not a speed feat. Lol. More like a portal lantern opened and assisted superman. Nice try though👍
Hal only created a channel, Superman traveled across the universe on his own.

He traveled back in time on cosmic treadmill on his own too.

Originally posted by abhilegend




Then GLs would be faster than everyone right?

But yeah, look at Superman flying from Earth to the center of the universe.


https://s6.postimg.org/hn76ndllt/Action_Comics_2016-_992-011.jpg

https://s6.postimg.org/awqpdy65t/Action_Comics_2016-_992-012.jpg

https://s6.postimg.org/6nlzbtsmp/Action_Comics_2016-_992-013.jpg

Transluminal space only allows FTL travel without worrying about laws of physics.

http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5902.jpg

Terrible.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're acting like Transluminal space doesn't has laws of physics.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Transluminal space only allows FTL travel without worrying about laws of physics.


..........................

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah if only that was Thor, it would be the best speed showing ever.



You've been drinking your own koolaid for too long. Thor has been doing feats of that nature since the 70's (From edge of Universe back to Asgard):
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109250/2241694-ThorMjolnir67-Teleportation185.jpg

We just don't run with the stupidity like you do. An apple is an apple. And that scan even specifies FTL speed.v

BENDIS J-7 ! XD

Abhi is still using travel speed feat...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
..........................





Eh, no retort?



Where is the end of the universe shown there? Are you saying Asgard is at the end of the universe?

Right, Thor did not even travel himself but had a vortex transport Warriors Three to Asgard.

Is that supposed to be relevant in any way?

You contradicted yourself dumbass. Words have meaning.

He traveled to the edge with the Warriors Three to investigate Infinity.

What? He acted as Hal Jordan in that scene except it was a forced BFR against Asgardians amped by a cosmic entity. How is that less impressive?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You contradicted yourself dumbass. Words have meaning.

He traveled to the edge with the Warriors Three to investigate Infinity.

Are you dyslexic by any chance? Where is it noted that he went to the edge of the universe? Nowhere in that scan at least.



Hal only created a portal in transluminal space. Superman traveled across the universe under his own speed.

Again, are you dyslexic?

Look.

Is there any proof transluminal space amps speed?

If not, is there any proof transluminal space is needed due to its physics phuckery?

Superman DID NOT cover that distance under his own power. Lantern HAD to help him with direction and all. Superman is NOWHERE near 200 light years in minutes.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman DID NOT cover that distance under his own power. Lantern HAD to help him with direction and all. Superman is NOWHERE near 200 light years in minutes.
Where did Lantern help him with anything other than the portal to transluminal space?

Yeah, he is far faster than that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Look.

Is there any proof transluminal space amps speed?

If not, is there any proof transluminal space is needed due to its physics phuckery?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did Lantern help him with anything other than the portal to transluminal space?

Yeah, he is far faster than that. BS. Show ANY scan stating that Superman covered atleast 1 light year in a little time. You make up Stuff and think people will go for it. Superman is FAR FAR slower than Gladiator.

Originally posted by JBL
BS. Show ANY scan stating that Superman covered atleast 1 light year in a little time. You make up Stuff and think people will go for it. Superman is FAR FAR slower than Gladiator.
Well, if you want statements like that, he can fly from the end of the universe to earth in sixty days.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8dc14a37f2b44167ec9fb98a3eba1995

That makes 200 trillion lightyears within sixty days. More or less.

Have fun.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, if you want statements like that, he can fly from the end of the universe to earth in sixty days.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8dc14a37f2b44167ec9fb98a3eba1995

That makes 200 trillion lightyears within sixty days. More or less.

Have fun.

*not a combat feat*

Who cares ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, if you want statements like that, he can fly from the end of the universe to earth in sixty days.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8dc14a37f2b44167ec9fb98a3eba1995

That makes 200 trillion lightyears within sixty days. More or less.

Have fun. LMAO. Are you serious!!

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO. Are you serious!!
Yes, why wouldn't I be?

Superman can make a sandwich in a nanosecond. He clears !

Wait...

Dies at 1 !

That ft he posted was debunked.

Originally posted by carver9
That ft he posted was debunked.

The point is that feat is completely useless to compare the characters abilities in a fight...

Originally posted by carver9
That ft he posted was debunked.
Where? Even the writer said he flew from the end of the universe.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4343008-ygu2014-11-05+07-25-32+-+action+comics+%282011-%29+036-019b.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where? Even the writer said he flew from the end of the universe.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4343008-ygu2014-11-05+07-25-32+-+action+comics+%282011-%29+036-019b.jpg

Oh my God! That's really good ! Superman can fly very very fast !!

Can we focus on combat feats now ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where? Even the writer said he flew from the end of the universe.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4343008-ygu2014-11-05+07-25-32+-+action+comics+%282011-%29+036-019b.jpg Edge of the visible universe. Stop trying to deceive people.

Originally posted by JBL
Edge of the visible universe. Stop trying to deceive people.
Where did he say that? Also DC universe is 200 trillion lightyears across.

Originally posted by JBL
BS. Show ANY scan stating that Superman covered atleast 1 light year in a little time. You make up Stuff and think people will go for it. Superman is FAR FAR slower than Gladiator.

Bwahahahaha!

Byrne Superman matches Gladiators best perception/reflex speed let alone modern Supes. Foh.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did he say that? Also DC universe is 200 trillion lightyears across.

Where did you get that figure from?

I think you're missing an 'at least'

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r22fw8s-g2A/V0TVgX1jPAI/AAAAAAAATPA/F8ZfcCIXZbgAF-WQE2z1iaL9vJS6Ug_FgCL0B/w800-h800/Superman%2B-%2BThe%2BMan%2Bof%2BSteel%2B%2B-%2BMetropolitan%2BRapture%2B%2523115%2B-%2BPage%2B19.jpg

If Adam Zeta beamed him to a point 100 trillion light years away, he could be in the middle (i.e. DCU could be 400 trillion light years across )

But assuming it's only 200 trillion light years, that's nearly 2.3 BILLION light years a minute.

200 light years in 'some' minutes seems....yeah.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But assuming it's only 200 trillion light years, that's nearly 2.3 BILLION light years a minute.

200 light years in 'some' minutes seems....yeah. Feat was debunked.

Originally posted by JBL
Feat was debunked.

Oh cool, where?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh cool, where?

In my cave.

Come here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh cool, where?

Not visiting Stilts cave..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where? Even the writer said he flew from the end of the universe.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4343008-ygu2014-11-05+07-25-32+-+action+comics+%282011-%29+036-019b.jpg

Here is where he was transported, lol...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rD0p8VwSI6Y/VRxNhjewQEI/AAAAAAAJkJs/kwiqNnT_08w/s1600/p8_23%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kFAaDlpvJKY/VRxNh71MVNI/AAAAAAAJkJw/3yp4U4492Ok/s1600/p8_24%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SpWUqjb0dzs/VRxNihoWbMI/AAAAAAAJkKE/su1PnRcd-ik/s1600/p8_25%2Bcopy.jpg

The next page, this happens...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HaKoKjTHeuo/VRxNipUYQLI/AAAAAAAJkJ8/WDegmrkk_Jw/s1600/p8_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Lol... it isn't a flight ft.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not visiting Stilts cave.. I've been in his cave before. It's actually a lovely place and his buttler is very good at making food.

Btw Stilt, it was really cool of you to offer that threesome between you, me, and Selina.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hey Pr. Long time, how is everything? Are you in Europe or back in NA?

Still in Europe for the time being, sadly.

==

So, this thread is a cluster****.

Originally posted by carver9
Here is where he was transported, lol...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rD0p8VwSI6Y/VRxNhjewQEI/AAAAAAAJkJs/kwiqNnT_08w/s1600/p8_23%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kFAaDlpvJKY/VRxNh71MVNI/AAAAAAAJkJw/3yp4U4492Ok/s1600/p8_24%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SpWUqjb0dzs/VRxNihoWbMI/AAAAAAAJkKE/su1PnRcd-ik/s1600/p8_25%2Bcopy.jpg

The next page, this happens...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HaKoKjTHeuo/VRxNipUYQLI/AAAAAAAJkJ8/WDegmrkk_Jw/s1600/p8_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Lol... it isn't a flight ft.

Wooooooooooooow

Abhil is shadier than a girl with her booking info in her insta bio.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wooooooooooooow

Abhil is shadier than a girl with her booking info in her insta bio. Also it's utterly ridiculous how other superman fans back and believe abhil. But we all know why but its good for a good healthy laugh

Just in case anyone is interested in the source, here is the issue number so that you can read it for yourselves.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HgA8zbS-j28/VRxNa9iioJI/AAAAAAAJkIA/Adoj2fYZMjM/s1600/p8_0%2Bcopy.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Here is where he was transported, lol...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rD0p8VwSI6Y/VRxNhjewQEI/AAAAAAAJkJs/kwiqNnT_08w/s1600/p8_23%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kFAaDlpvJKY/VRxNh71MVNI/AAAAAAAJkJw/3yp4U4492Ok/s1600/p8_24%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SpWUqjb0dzs/VRxNihoWbMI/AAAAAAAJkKE/su1PnRcd-ik/s1600/p8_25%2Bcopy.jpg

The next page, this happens...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HaKoKjTHeuo/VRxNipUYQLI/AAAAAAAJkJ8/WDegmrkk_Jw/s1600/p8_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Lol... it isn't a flight ft.
That was the end of the universe. Don't leave the actual part of the scene.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8ZO5i89CK5Y/VkRYV38IElI/AAAAAAAAXI8/LMAkkxendFk/s1600-Ic42/002.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H_qv7HEAghM/VkRYYklxXEI/AAAAAAAAXI8/rcO9gjlr_Bo/s1600-Ic42/004.jpg

He was outside time and space and ejected to the edge of the universe from where he traveled for sixty days to the earth. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wooooooooooooow

Abhil is shadier than a girl with her booking info in her insta bio.
Alright, the writer (Greg Pak) is also shady then, huh?

Because that scene never even suggests where Superman was ejected (except for the fact that it was outside time and space) and Pak confirmed it again.

https://i.imgur.com/dNtDAWu.jpg

Carter is a lying piece of shit. Just like you so I'm not surprised you gobbled it up like you do everyday.

Originally posted by carver9
Just in case anyone is interested in the source, here is the issue number so that you can read it for yourselves.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HgA8zbS-j28/VRxNa9iioJI/AAAAAAAJkIA/Adoj2fYZMjM/s1600/p8_0%2Bcopy.jpg
Yes, why dint you and show us where Superman was ejected from the planet.

Originally posted by JBL
Also it's utterly ridiculous how other superman fans back and believe abhil. But we all know why but its good for a good healthy laugh


No wonder you belive Carter.

I provided the issue number for everyone to read. Please enjoy.

Originally posted by carver9
I provided the issue number for everyone to read. Please enjoy.
Why don't you post the scan where Superman is stated to be ejected from the planet near Saturn.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Convergence/Issue-0?id=1471

The issue link is above. Cmon carver, be a man for once and back up your claim.

Here is the entire comic. ABHI posted the first page of the comic. Look at his scan, Superman doesn't even have a beard. Here it is for everyone to see.

https://view-comic.com/convergence-000-2015-2/

Originally posted by carver9
Here is the entire comic. ABHI posted the first page of the comic. Look at his scan, Superman doesn't even have a beard. Here it is for everyone to see.

https://view-comic.com/convergence-000-2015-2/
I posted the link above.

Are you measuring time by his beard? He was outside time and space, where was he for sixty days and why would the writers showed and stated that he flew from the edge of the universe?

Questions, questions carter.

Yeah not sure what your point is here, Carver.

JBL, do YOU have better proof? Where was it debunked?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was the end of the universe. Don't leave the actual part of the scene.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8ZO5i89CK5Y/VkRYV38IElI/AAAAAAAAXI8/LMAkkxendFk/s1600-Ic42/002.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H_qv7HEAghM/VkRYYklxXEI/AAAAAAAAXI8/rcO9gjlr_Bo/s1600-Ic42/004.jpg

He was outside time and space and ejected to the edge of the universe from where he traveled for sixty days to the earth.
Alright, the writer (Greg Pak) is also shady then, huh?

Because that scene never even suggests where Superman was ejected (except for the fact that it was outside time and space) and Pak confirmed it again.

https://i.imgur.com/dNtDAWu.jpg

Carter is a lying piece of shit. Just like you so I'm not surprised you gobbled it up like you do everyday.

Correct.

I was laughing my arse off because I had read this before, and was asking "Did Carver actually read it?"

I bet he did not. Probably got it from Comicvine or something.

Originally posted by carver9
Here is the entire comic. ABHI posted the first page of the comic. Look at his scan, Superman doesn't even have a beard. Here it is for everyone to see.

https://view-comic.com/convergence-000-2015-2/

Good job.

You just proved once and for all that Superman is far faster then that Whis travel feat you're so proud of.

All I see there is Superman getting whirlwinded away by Brainiac. He's crtainly not flying on his own since he's sideways when he was lifted and on the next page I see Superman actually at the end of the whirlwind starting to fly.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
All I see there is Superman getting whirlwinded away by Brainiac. He's crtainly not flying on his own since he's sideways when he was lifted and on the next page I see Superman actually at the end of the whirlwind starting to fly.

It's the black hole behind him.

Basically, he only remembers dunking Brainiac into the hole, and coming out in the next Superman issue. He still had to make his way to Earth, from the black hole at the far end of the universe.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
All I see there is Superman getting whirlwinded away by Brainiac. He's crtainly not flying on his own since he's sideways when he was lifted and on the next page I see Superman actually at the end of the whirlwind starting to fly.

The next scene after that scan where he is flying off, he bumps into Supergirl and both fly to earth. So the scene you see where he is tossed by Brainiac, the scene you see with him flying (with what appears to be that same worm hole Brainiac used to toss him behind him) and him running into Supergirl all happened within the same moment.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's the black hole behind him.

Basically, he only remembers dunking Brainiac into the hole, and coming out in the next Superman issue. He still had to make his way to Earth, from the black hole at the far end of the universe.

Where did you get that from?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
All I see there is Superman getting whirlwinded away by Brainiac. He's crtainly not flying on his own since he's sideways when he was lifted and on the next page I see Superman actually at the end of the whirlwind starting to fly. Superman fans will always Try to add on to his feats. Good catch.👍

Originally posted by carver9
Where did you get that from?

By reading the comic?

If you read Doomed, you'd know it ended with Superman and Brainiac going into a black hole. That same black hole is behind him at the end of that issue.

Lol.

I realize people are getting confused by the pretty pictures.

One shows the whirlwind he was caught up in.

The other shows him punching through Saturn's ice and dust rings.

They're two completely different scenes.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman fans will always Try to add on to his feats. Good catch.👍

The whirlwind only sent him back through the same black hole he went into at the end of Doomed.

This whirlwind scene:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HaKoKjTHeuo/VRxNipUYQLI/AAAAAAAJkJ8/WDegmrkk_Jw/s1600/p8_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Is NOT THIS:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111113893/4488887-4594220485-2KUud.jpg

They look pretty similar, but one has him punching through a hole in Saturn's rings, whereas the first is the whirlwind.

One person is saying whirlwind, another is saying Saturn Ring, and the other is saying he was ejected (which means he was transported) near Saturn. These fans are all over the place.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This whirlwind scene:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HaKoKjTHeuo/VRxNipUYQLI/AAAAAAAJkJ8/WDegmrkk_Jw/s1600/p8_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Is NOT THIS:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111113893/4488887-4594220485-2KUud.jpg

They look pretty similar, but one has him punching through a hole in Saturn's rings, whereas the first is the whirlwind.

Tbh, it looks more similar than most recap scenes, which is pretty impressive. I'll take your word for it but I would be REALLY surprised if it wasn't the case. When I have a minute, I'll read the entire story-line.

Even his hair is basically identical. I wouldn't be surprised if he traced the first one.

I'm saying both.

Read the text Carver. Superman specifically says he was punching through Saturn's rings. We can even see the hole he punches.

Your own scans show Brainiac using his whirlwind, and Superman then flying off.

What is YOUR interpretation?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you sure? When I have a minute, I'll read the entire story-line. Because that looks like the exact same scene in another comic.

Tbh, it looks more similar than most recap scenes, which is pretty impressive. I'll take your word for it but I would be REALLY surprised if it wasn't the case.

Supes specifically says he's punching through the rings. No argument there.

We see the hole he's punched. No argument there either.

Now, if we believe the scenes to be exactly the same, that would mean in Carver's scans, the whirlwind from Brainiac, which looks exactly like Saturn's rings, deposited Superman at Saturn. And he then flew on, and the text about sixty days makes....zero sense.

I thought I remember you guys arguing this before about him dipping into black holes and shit? It's such a pointless argument though that I didn't pay too much attention and I won't now

Yeah, I think you're right.

I was wrong about it being a black hole. Supes WAS deposited into one, and he had no memory other then him and Brainiac going down the well.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm saying both.

Read the text Carver. Superman specifically says he was punching through Saturn's rings. We can even see the hole he punches.

Your own scans show Brainiac using his whirlwind, and Superman then flying off.

What is YOUR interpretation?

I'm not disputing him punching through Saturn moon, lol, I'm talking about him flying from one end of the Universe to earth.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I thought I remember you guys arguing this before about him dipping into black holes and shit? It's such a pointless argument though that I didn't pay too much attention and I won't now

Come on Bran... I want to see your interpretation of it. The issue is there for you to read. .

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, I think you're right.

I was wrong about it being a black hole. Supes WAS deposited into one, and he had no memory other then him and Brainiac going down the well.

Because his memory was erased and he was tossed right at Saturns ring. We see the same wormhole that Brainiac used to throw him back.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not disputing him punching through Saturn moon, lol, I'm talking about him flying from one end of the Universe to earth.

The scan and the issue you posted isn't the same as the scan Abhi posted, that's my point.

In HIS scan, it specifically says he has been flying for 60days through endless space, non stop. No memory loss there, he REMEMBERS 60 days of flying.

YOUR scan just shows Brainiac whirlwinding Superman into....well, the upper atmosphere of that planet.

So why can't they both be right? After that whirlwind, he then starts flying, for sixty days, until he punches through the rings and returns to Earth (which happens to look like the whirlwind)?

In abhis scan, that's not a black hole. That's the hole he's just punched in Saturn's rings.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Supes specifically says he's punching through the rings. No argument there.

We see the hole he's punched. No argument there either.

Now, if we believe the scenes to be exactly the same, that would mean in Carver's scans, the whirlwind from Brainiac, which looks exactly like Saturn's rings, deposited Superman at Saturn. And he then flew on, and the text about sixty days makes....zero sense.

Superman memories was erased/replaced, its said right there in the issue I posted. He THOUGHT he was flying through space but he was truly stuck with Brainiac the entire time and thrown back.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The scan and the issue you posted isn't the same as the scan Abhi posted, that's my point.

In HIS scan, it specifically says he has been flying for 60days through endless space, non stop.

YOUR scan just shows Brainiac whirlwinding Superman into....well, the upper atmosphere of that planet.

So why can't they both be right? After that whirlwind, he then starts flying, for sixty days, until he punches through the rings and returns to Earth (which happens to look like the whirlwind)?

Read above please. They are the same exact scene. He just dont know what happened in between the time he was gone because everything was erased.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not disputing him punching through Saturn moon, lol, I'm talking about him flying from one end of the Universe to earth.
So your idol Greg Pak lied? And so did several comics?

https://s9.postimg.cc/n02yews17/image.jpg

https://s9.postimg.cc/mv492q1fv/image.jpg

What else do you need?

Originally posted by carver9
Read above please. They are the same exact scene. He just dont know what happened in between the time he was gone because everything was erased.

But he remembers 60 days of flying.

That's not a black hole. That's a hole HE punched through, as per the text.

Originally posted by carver9
Because his memory was erased and he was tossed right at Saturns ring. We see the same wormhole that Brainiac used to throw him back.
Brainiac only erased his memory of being on that planet. Superman went on to fly for sixty days straight after that.

Originally posted by carver9
Here is where he was transported, lol...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rD0p8VwSI6Y/VRxNhjewQEI/AAAAAAAJkJs/kwiqNnT_08w/s1600/p8_23%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kFAaDlpvJKY/VRxNh71MVNI/AAAAAAAJkJw/3yp4U4492Ok/s1600/p8_24%2Bcopy.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SpWUqjb0dzs/VRxNihoWbMI/AAAAAAAJkKE/su1PnRcd-ik/s1600/p8_25%2Bcopy.jpg

The next page, this happens...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HaKoKjTHeuo/VRxNipUYQLI/AAAAAAAJkJ8/WDegmrkk_Jw/s1600/p8_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Lol... it isn't a flight ft.

The manner and path of your return will ensure you forget EVERYTHING. Lol... he THOUGHT he flew back. It didn't happen.

Wait so how can he lose memories, but also remember 60days of flying?

Like you yourself emphasize...forget EVERYTHING. So he what, simultaneously forgets but also remembers?

Originally posted by carver9
Come on Bran... I want to see your interpretation of it. The issue is there for you to read. . There was a different argument before is what I'm saying. Now there is new.

I'm more of an old timer though, and I don't think "heroes" should even fly. That is the direct work of the Luciferian age we're living in now.

Originally posted by carver9
The manner and path of your return will ensure you forget EVERYTHING. Lol... he THOUGHT he flew back. It didn't happen.
Forget everything on the planet idiot.

He remembered flying through space for sixty days.

This oddly reminds me of yo momma jokes.

Superman forgot so hard, he remembered flying through the Universe.

Yeah, it was just an extremely lazy artist who churned the scene out.

Originally posted by carver9
Because his memory was erased and he was tossed right at Saturns ring. We see the same wormhole that Brainiac used to throw him back.

So instead of losing time and wondering where he was for months, he was given false memories of traveling through space. Because Brainiac cares so much.

That's some Carver logic right there.

The length some superman fans are willing to go to. School them Carver.

Originally posted by JBL
The length some superman fans are willing to go to. School them Carver.

So you think that Brainiac wiped his memories (as stated) and then gave him new memories (not stated)?

I keep asking you for your debunking. So far all you do is cheerlead.

Says clearly that he's been flying for 60days non stop. What do you interpret that as?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you think that Brainiac wiped his memories (as stated) and then gave him new memories (not stated)?

I keep asking you for your debunking. So far all you do is cheerlead.

Says clearly that he's been flying for 60days non stop. What do you interpret that as? I don't care how long he's been flying. He got dumped via wormhole forgot shit and probably took 60 days to fly from Saturn to earth all the while thinking he was farther out??

Originally posted by JBL
I don't care how long he's been flying. He got dumped via wormhole forgot shit and probably took 60 days to fly from Saturn to earth all the while thinking he was farther out??
That was eighteen hours earlier.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111113893/4488887-4594220485-2KUud.jpg

Not that he took eighteen hours to reach Earth from Saturn. He filed a paper, got to every corner of earth etc.

Originally posted by JBL
I don't care how long he's been flying. He got dumped via wormhole forgot shit and probably took 60 days to fly from Saturn to earth all the while thinking he was farther out??

Lol. See abhi's post.

And you say the OTHER side is reaching?

Plus, he's raced from Pluto to Earth, SEARCHED Earth, all in the space of a few seconds.

Where in Carver's scans does it show an ice planet? Yet, it specifically says he's ploughing through ICE. From Saturn's rings


That isn't a wormhole. It's the hole he punched. t's just a lazy artist, and lazier readers who don't read.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. See abhi's post.

And you say the OTHER side is reaching?

Plus, he's raced from Pluto to Earth, SEARCHED Earth, all in the space of a few seconds. Abhil is lying about that scan. Carver pointed it out. But as always, superman fans will agree with each other for supermans sake. Abhil had been busted before on this and PLENTY other lies.

Superdoom flew to the other side of the galaxy within one page and flew to rescue Lana within one page too.

https://s9.postimg.cc/8oxoyg2m3/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/joiwa3b1n/image.jpg

https://s9.postimg.cc/67lxrj5yj/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/n84u08657/image.jpg

Originally posted by JBL
Abhil is lying about that scan. Carver pointed it out. But as always, superman fans will agree with each other for supermans sake. Abhil had been busted before on this and PLENTY other lies.
What am I lying about the scan?

Elaborate please.

Originally posted by JBL
Abhil is lying about that scan. Carver pointed it out. But as always, superman fans will agree with each other for supermans sake. Abhil had been busted before on this and PLENTY other lies.

Carver didn't point anything out - if anything, he's just tied himself into knots.

The planet Brainiac whirlwinded him off had no ice. Carver's scan also points out his memory was wiped, of everything.

These are facts. No one is debating this.

Except Carver is now asserting (and I'm assuming you're hanging on and cheerleading because this was the argument you hoped debunked it?) That HIS scan and Abhis scan are one and the same.

Except A: Superman is CLEARLY shown to be punching through Saturn's rings of ice and rock (which Carver actually agrees with).

Ice which isn't present on the planet, and in narration is clearly being punched through by Supes.

B: he has memories of flying for sixty days. TEARING through space, actually.

So for Carver's (and yours) theory to work, Brainiac wiped his memory (agreed), whirlwinded him into space (agreed) through a wormhole (not shown), next to Saturn (huh?) then DISGUISED this whirlwind as ..... Saturn's rings (what?) AND gave Superman new memories (or in your theory, Superman now flies aimlessly in space for sixty days which Abhi debunked).

Lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What am I lying about the scan?

Elaborate please. JBL is the name I go by right? J...B...L... Think abhil. Think. Jbl claims he's friends with writers?? Hmmm.. forget the wrestler even though he cool. Think abhil.. when it hit you, let me know. Then you will know how I know you're lying. Not hard to figure out.

Originally posted by JBL
JBL is the name I go by right? J...B...L... Think abhil. Think. Jbl claims he's friends with writers?? Hmmm.. forget the wrestler even though he cool. Think abhil.. when it hit you, let me know. Then you will know how I know you're lying. Not hard to figure out.

Just Blatantly Lying?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver didn't point anything out - if anything, he's just tied himself into knots.

The planet Brainiac whirlwinded him off had no ice. Carver's scan also points out his memory was wiped, of everything.

These are facts. No one is debating this.

Except Carver is now asserting (and I'm assuming you're hanging on and cheerleading because this was the argument you hoped debunked it?) That HIS scan and Abhis scan are one and the same.

Except A: Superman is CLEARLY shown to be punching through Saturn's rings of ice and rock (which Carver actually agrees with).

Ice which isn't present on the planet, and in narration is clearly being punched through by Supes.

B: he has memories of flying for sixty days. TEARING through space, actually.

So for Carver's (and yours) theory to work, Brainiac wiped his memory (agreed), whirlwinded him into space (agreed) through a wormhole (not shown), next to Saturn (huh?) then DISGUISED this whirlwind as ..... Saturn's rings (what?) AND gave Superman new memories (or in your theory, Superman now flies aimlessly in space for sixty days which Abhi debunked).

Lol. you'll get it soon enough.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just Blatantly Lying? That's you Superman fans. Known to all Here and other sites. Even among writers.

Originally posted by JBL
you'll get it soon enough.

You always do this, is this because you can't admit you're wrong?

You asked for a flying speed feat. Abhi posted one. Even posted a writer interview, specifically for you.

And you just went ape, lol.

Originally posted by JBL
JBL is the name I go by right? J...B...L... Think abhil. Think. Jbl claims he's friends with writers?? Hmmm.. forget the wrestler even though he cool. Think abhil.. when it hit you, let me know. Then you will know how I know you're lying. Not hard to figure out.
I'm really curious about what I'm lying.

Why don't you expose me?

Originally posted by JBL
you'll get it soon enough. I read this as a threat before I saw the actual meaning, and I like it better that way.

You better be careful DS, because you'll get it soon enough bud.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I read this as a threat before I saw the actual meaning, and I like it better that way.

You better be careful DS, because you'll get it soon enough bud.

Tbf I don't want anything in my bud

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf I don't want anything in my bud I wouldn't leave my house if I were you tomorrow. When it comes to you, you're going to get it.

What was the supposed feat again? I remember this being argued some time ago.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What was the supposed feat again? I remember this being argued some time ago.

Flying from the end of the universe in 60 days.

Oh.. Hmm..

Looks like he got ported. The bit with "end of the universe" may have been use of generalization in an interview.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm really curious about what I'm lying.

Why don't you expose me? You are lying about Superman..Again.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh.. Hmm..

Looks like he got ported.

Based on?

How do you address his memories of 60days' worth of tearing through space, and of punching through Saturn's rings?

Well for one we know his memory has been purposely phukked with. That much is true.


And... Going by his facial hair, there's not much change. How fast does his facial hair grow? Anybody got an idea? Maybe he did travel for 60 days if we don't question the amount of time, but in the end how far really did he fly? Hard to tell.

We do know for sure there was porting involved and his memory or his recollection of events are in question.

Originally posted by JBL
You are lying about Superman..Again.
What lie? Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Well for one we know his memory has been purposely phukked with. That much is true.


And... Going by his facial hair, there's not much change. How fast does his facial hair grow? Anybody got an idea? Maybe he did travel for 60 days if we don't question the amount of time, but in the end how far really did he fly? Hard to tell.

We do know for sure there was porting involved and his memory or his recollection of events are in question.
Only his memory of the planet was erased. He remembered everything just fine.

There was no teleportation involved. Telos just ejected him to where he left Brainiac, end of the universe.

End of the universe isn't good enough for you for distance, eh?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Well for one we know his memory has been purposely phukked with. That much is true.


And... Going by his facial hair, there's not much change. How fast does his facial hair grow? Anybody got an idea? Maybe he did travel for 60 days if we don't question the amount of time, but in the end how far really did he fly? Hard to tell.

His memory was wiped. No mention of new memories was inserted.

THAT much is true. Not that it was messed with, it's more specific than that.

Moreover, subsequent scans say he flew from the end of the universe.

And judging by beard length? Just for JBL, we have a writer interview saying specifically he flew from the edge of the universe.

If you want to quibble how far that is, THAT'S a different argument altogether.

Moreover,there's no portal. He's specifically punching through Saturn's rings there. Unless you're now saying it's the same whirlwind as Brainiacs, and that the ice etc is all a fake memory? In real time?

Ported. End of feat