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I remember a comic where Wanda warped the probability of Hope's fist connecting with Wanda's body, making her immune to speedblitzing

Round 1: Regular fight

Round 2: Wanda has 1 hour of preparation time

Also, why in the world is there not a Scarlet Witch respect thread here?!? House of M does not in any way deserve one before the original, just like Odin Force Thor does not deserve his own respect thread before the original Thor. Freaking retarded logic

Hope doesn't have super-speed, so Wanda didn't display immunity to speed blitzing at all. In fact, Hope head butt Wanda in that same fight and later knocked her out with a sucker punch.

Yep.

Even though if Wanda applied this, there's too many ways Kara can end this. The shockwave from a full swing punch missing would probably do it.

Scarlet Witch can block shock waves from beings far stronger and more powerful than Supergirl, namely Thor. The only issue is speed, otherwise Wanda can contend

Thor far stronger then Supergirl

supergirl blitze wanda's head off before she can open her mouth

Last time Scarlet went against a mind controlled Thor it took her and Havok everything they had just to bfr him. If he had been actively attacking they would have died.

I just don't see her beating somebody with similir strength and durability and now much quicker without prep.

Round 1 Supergirl 10/10
Round 2 Scarlet 6/10

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Scarlet Witch can block shock waves from beings far stronger and more powerful than Supergirl, namely Thor. The only issue is speed, otherwise Wanda can contend
Thor is far stronger than Supergirl now?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor is far stronger than Supergirl now? Strength feats for Supergirl? Thor Odinson has pretty ridiculous strength feats, and many as well.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Last time Scarlet went against a mind controlled Thor it took her and Havok everything they had just to bfr him. If he had been actively attacking they would have died.

I just don't see her beating somebody with similir strength and durability and now much quicker without prep.

Round 1 Supergirl 10/10
Round 2 Scarlet 6/10

Originally posted by zopzop
On the other hand, magic...

Originally posted by XLR87T3
I remember a comic where Wanda warped the probability of Hope's fist connecting with Wanda's body, making her immune to speedblitzing

Round 1: Regular fight

Round 2: Wanda has 1 hour of preparation time

Also, why in the world is there not a Scarlet Witch respect thread here?!? House of M does not in any way deserve one before the original, just like Odin Force Thor does not deserve his own respect thread before the original Thor. Freaking retarded logic You seem very angry, Amandovalles, is that you?

Curious who to believe here. On one hand you have a guy who knows everything about every woman in comics. On the other, you have a guy who is literally too good to post proof because the debating on this site is beneath him.

If Styletime wasn't such a stylish pervert, I'd be inclined to believe he's wrong.

Supergirl beats Wanda as easily as he'd beat Strange (Or Surfer, since I have a feeling this newcomer is a Comicvine or CBR reject, where they're notorious for downplaying the Supermans dominance, and by extension all related to him..)

Originally posted by cdtm
Supergirl beats Wanda as easily as he'd beat Strange (Or Surfer, since I have a feeling this newcomer is a Comicvine or CBR reject, where they're notorious for downplaying the Supermans dominance, and by extension all related to him..) Haha you're ridiculous! Every "battle board website" has its own unique quirk.

NarutoForums/OBD is "Fan-calcs & scaling or GTFO"

Comic Vine is "Feats or GTFO"

Spacebattles is "Source material or GTFO"

Reddit/WWW is the king of retarded WTF-level matches

CBR is "Mods are gods and kings"

Out of all of these websites, only KMC has threads where most people legit think that Thor is close to or even inferior to Supergirl when it comes to physical strength and might. That's because the comic book section is practically run by DC fanboys and trolls, which is KMC's "quirk".

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Haha you're ridiculous! Every "battle board website" has its own unique quirk.

NarutoForums/OBD is "Fan-calcs & scaling or GTFO"

Comic Vine is "Feats or GTFO"

Spacebattles is "Source material or GTFO"

Reddit/WWW is the king of retarded WTF-level matches

CBR is "Mods are gods and kings"

Out of all of these websites, only KMC has threads where most people legit think that Thor is close to or even inferior to Supergirl when it comes to physical strength and might. That's because the comic book section is practically run by DC fanboys and trolls, which is KMC's "quirk".
Or we actually know what's what.

Supergirl is basically one step below Superman in strength, if you are acting like Thor is far stronger than Supergirl, he must be on par with Superman in strength?

Anyway just one random strength feat for Kara would be overpowering the pull of a massive black hole, shrugging off getting punched with the weight of the moon and overpowering the said being etc.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Haha you're ridiculous! Every "battle board website" has its own unique quirk.

NarutoForums/OBD is "Fan-calcs & scaling or GTFO"

Comic Vine is "Feats or GTFO"

Spacebattles is "Source material or GTFO"

Reddit/WWW is the king of retarded WTF-level matches

CBR is "Mods are gods and kings"

Out of all of these websites, only KMC has threads where most people legit think that Thor is close to or even inferior to Supergirl when it comes to physical strength and might. That's because the comic book section is practically run by DC fanboys and trolls, which is KMC's "quirk".

Great list.

Were you there when the mods banned nearly "everyone"?

There was something fishy with how certain posters got away with murder, though. Pendaran especially.. He called a good poster named Mr. X a liar once, outright. Nothing happened to him. But someone else steps only slightly out of line, and he reports them, and they're GONE.

Either he and the mods were friends, or he was a sock.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Curious who to believe here. On one hand you have a guy who knows everything about every woman in comics. On the other, you have a guy who is literally too good to post proof because the debating on this site is beneath him.

If Styletime wasn't such a stylish pervert, I'd be inclined to believe he's wrong.

Am I the only one who only posts here? I keep seeing members carrying on feuds from other sites.

I only post here about comics. Never looked at CBR I don't think, seen some posts on Herochat, and have probably been there less than 10 times. Only saw the super autistic Star Wars posts on Comicvine.

I only post here, too.

Tried herochat for a while, it's awful.

Read comicvine after Justice League, just to masturbare to Superman soloing the Avengers and everybody agreeing.

I post on all the sites.

There's actually only 2 forums I have ever posted on. Here, and a now defunct (I think) MMA forum. Then it's just Facebook trolling and /fit/. I don't get e-out

Originally posted by One Big Mob
/fit/ Didn't know you were gay and never learn.

Supermang was before I started lifting. Though that whole Powerlifting community is ****ed. The roiding community is the equivalent of a crackhouse with muscles though. Gay pornstar, half of them do gay4pay, meth addicts, children that started roids before lifting, and a lot of mental instability. If you ever get the chance read through the fraud threads. The lowest of the low.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or we actually know what's what.

Supergirl is basically one step below Superman in strength, if you are acting like Thor is far stronger than Supergirl, he must be on par with Superman in strength?

Anyway just one random strength feat for Kara would be overpowering the pull of a massive black hole, shrugging off getting punched with the weight of the moon and overpowering the said being etc. Do you know what issues those feats are from? Scans or proof?

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Do you know what issues those feats are from? Scans or proof?
Supergirl vs a black hole

https://s9.postimg.cc/od3b2rat7/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5xiu5dc4b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/lvrjvie23/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5801t0r0b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/sm814ygnf/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/jr76ufzkr/image.jpg

Supergirl getting hit by the weight of a moon.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jvAQuFNAgIg/WoRi5jkxSEI/AAAAAAAAELE/dhDNTdJUdbEme3293QJxj1Ycoqg7euhjgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO010.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-icRoWvbPOic/WoRi6i97T1I/AAAAAAAAELQ/QMeci2-hjU4qnk-KCngvD4bJutSGNVmawCHMYCw/s1600/RCO011.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl vs a black hole

https://s9.postimg.cc/od3b2rat7/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5xiu5dc4b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/lvrjvie23/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5801t0r0b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/sm814ygnf/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/jr76ufzkr/image.jpg

Supergirl getting hit by the weight of a moon.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jvAQuFNAgIg/WoRi5jkxSEI/AAAAAAAAELE/dhDNTdJUdbEme3293QJxj1Ycoqg7euhjgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO010.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-icRoWvbPOic/WoRi6i97T1I/AAAAAAAAELQ/QMeci2-hjU4qnk-KCngvD4bJutSGNVmawCHMYCw/s1600/RCO011.jpg

overpowering the pull of a black hole is a ridiclous strength feat to be honest, never seen that feat of Supergirl, does she have any other more impressive like those... and would that arguably put her above Thor in strength?

Now that i think about it, Depends precisely how far you are from it, just how dense it is, your course out, and other factors (like if one's form of flight ignores gravity or not). So it's an impressive thing, but hard to give precise numbers to because each black hole is different in size and small differences in distance can make a large different in needed thrust to escape.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Supermang was before I started lifting. Though that whole Powerlifting community is ****ed. The roiding community is the equivalent of a crackhouse with muscles though. Gay pornstar, half of them do gay4pay, meth addicts, children that started roids before lifting, and a lot of mental instability. If you ever get the chance read through the fraud threads. The lowest of the low.

fit misc is good times too. I miss Rich posts though , and Elgin doing Rich. Blaha and Genova are always comical. Atleast we have Kiger.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl vs a black hole

https://s9.postimg.cc/od3b2rat7/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5xiu5dc4b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/lvrjvie23/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5801t0r0b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/sm814ygnf/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/jr76ufzkr/image.jpg

Supergirl getting hit by the weight of a moon.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jvAQuFNAgIg/WoRi5jkxSEI/AAAAAAAAELE/dhDNTdJUdbEme3293QJxj1Ycoqg7euhjgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO010.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-icRoWvbPOic/WoRi6i97T1I/AAAAAAAAELQ/QMeci2-hjU4qnk-KCngvD4bJutSGNVmawCHMYCw/s1600/RCO011.jpg

the black hole is impressive


the hyperbole is not

Originally posted by Sin I AM
the black hole is impressive


the hyperbole is not
weird to see that he's using a black hole feat because he discredits almost all other bhole feats when his trinity of hate is involved.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
overpowering the pull of a black hole is a ridiclous strength feat to be honest, never seen that feat of Supergirl, does she have any other more impressive like those... and would that arguably put her above Thor in strength? Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Now that i think about it, Depends precisely how far you are from it, just how dense it is, your course out, and other factors (like if one's form of flight ignores gravity or not). So it's an impressive thing, but hard to give precise numbers to because each black hole is different in size and small differences in distance can make a large different in needed thrust to escape.
That black hole was about to destroy the planet they were on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That black hole was about to destroy the planet they were on.

right, so overpulled the pull of a planetary black hole then...

Do YOU think Thor couldn't do the same?

No, the black hole was pulling the planet from a distance. And she was inside the black hole.

Thor doesn't has any such feat to his name.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, the black hole was pulling the planet from a distance. And she was inside the black hole.

Thor doesn't has any such feat to his name.

right, so planetary durability then?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
right, so planetary durability then?
Only if you think being inside a black hole is planetary level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Only if you think being inside a black hole is planetary level.

I mean only quantification was the black hole being able to destroy the entire planet. or do you wanna go with your own head canon and claim it's far above it ignoring what the comic explictly stated?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I mean only quantification was the black hole being able to destroy the entire planet. or do you wanna go with your own head canon and claim it's far above it ignoring what the comic explictly stated?
It was destroying a planet from far. By default it was above planetary level.

Most black holes don't even have that kind of quantitive showings.

Supergirl 2 shot dominating base level Superman proved she's was far above Thor in strength back in 2004 or so. Then she 2 shotted Ultraman in OYL. Now shes koing top tiers like magog with finger snaps.

Originally posted by panthergod
Supergirl 2 shot dominating base level Superman proved she's was far above Thor in strength back in 2004 or so. Then she 2 shotted Ultraman in OYL. Now shes koing top tiers like magog with finger snaps.

What arc did PC SG beat Supes in? although the guy kinda holds back lol, Magog.. really? That happened in Nu52 right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was destroying a planet from far. By default it was above planetary level.

Most black holes don't even have that kind of quantitive showings.

>by default it was above planetary

>comic explictly stating it was going to destroy the entire planet

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
>by default it was above planetary

>comic explictly stating it was going to destroy the entire planet
From a lot of distance my boy.

I'll wait for any other black hole in the comics shown above planetary level in which a herald has gone into.

Originally posted by abhilegend
From a lot of distance my boy.

I'll wait for any other black hole in the comics shown above planetary level in which a herald has gone into.

Which tells us some, but not too much precise- due to a planet's size, the tidal forces gravity will naturally try and pull it apart (i.e. the near bit will be pulled at a much higher rate than the far bit) so the point of destruction of a planet is far farther away than a person- though the event horizon is an event horizon regardless, how fast the gravity falls off outside of it can vary and so on.

Impressive, just hard to quantify.

NOTE they had Starboy weakening it too with his gravity powers, but you ignored that part purposely didn't you?

again It's impressive, but it's just hard to put a number on.

Originally posted by panthergod
Supergirl 2 shot dominating base level Superman proved she's was far above Thor in strength back in 2004 or so. Then she 2 shotted Ultraman in OYL. Now shes koing top tiers like magog with finger snaps. Eh, it can be easily argued that Thor is more durable than Superman, who was holding back when dealing with Supergirl. Although Ultraman is in fact physically superior to Superman, so it might be plot allowing Supergirl to do anything to him.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Eh, it can be easily argued that Thor is more durable than Superman, who was holding back when dealing with Supergirl. Although Ultraman is in fact physically superior to Superman, so it might be plot allowing Supergirl to do anything to him.

Originally posted by panthergod


Are you going to give citation to those fights you mentioned? (magog and base superman)

Superman/Batman: Supergirl arc, superman#9 for magog.

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman/Batman: Supergirl arc, superman#9 for magog.

N52 Magog is meh though... I dont think he has enough feats to be comparable to Thor

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Which tells us some, but not too much precise- due to a planet's size, the tidal forces gravity will naturally try and pull it apart (i.e. the near bit will be pulled at a much higher rate than the far bit) so the point of destruction of a planet is far farther away than a person- though the event horizon is an event horizon regardless, how fast the gravity falls off outside of it can vary and so on.

Impressive, just hard to quantify.

Like so many of the black hole feats for say Silver Surfer?

He did that after Supergirl emerged from the black hole and he was only weakening its pull.

It's more impressive than anything Thor has done in terms of space cheese.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Eh, it can be easily argued that Thor is more durable than Superman, who was holding back when dealing with Supergirl. Although Ultraman is in fact physically superior to Superman, so it might be plot allowing Supergirl to do anything to him.
Try and prove Thor is even as durable as Superman. I need a good laugh

Originally posted by abhilegend

It's more impressive than anything Thor has done in terms of space cheese.
lol

Bhole more durability feat ain't it? Maybe considered speed/flight?

She overcame both the gravity and escaped the black hole. Let me know when Thor survived a black hole.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She overcame both the gravity and escaped the black hole. Let me know when Thor survived a black hole.
Aren't u talking bout strength with bazie?

Nyways.. Funny how you're all up this bhole. Usually ure like "bhole.... meh."

It's a strength and durability feat both.

Maybe if she was beating up on somebody inside the bhole...

She was. She was beating Byth inside the black hole alright.

Right, because Thor stalemating a power gem Drax is totally Supergirl league

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Right, because Thor stalemating a power gem Drax is totally Supergirl league
And what level was power gem Drax?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And what level was power gem Drax?

same drax who was tossing around professor Hulk like a chew toy

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
same drax who was tossing around professor Hulk like a chew toy
When Hulk was holding back? Right, that proves so much.

Drax was class 100. Nothing more.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When Hulk was holding back? Right, that proves so much.

Drax was class 100. Nothing more.

PG drax would manhandle Supergirl or Superman He was a casual star buster, and destroyed planets just via arm locking

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
PG drax would manhandle Supergirl or Superman He was a casual star buster, and destroyed planets just via arm locking
That was smart Drax and got knocked out by Captain Mar-Vell and got punked by She Hulk.

Go home kid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl vs a black hole

https://s9.postimg.cc/od3b2rat7/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5xiu5dc4b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/lvrjvie23/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5801t0r0b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/sm814ygnf/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/jr76ufzkr/image.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, the black hole was pulling the planet from a distance. And she was inside the black hole.

Thor doesn't has any such feat to his name.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Only if you think being inside a black hole is planetary level.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He did that after Supergirl emerged from the black hole and he was only weakening its pull.

It's more impressive than anything Thor has done in terms of space cheese.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She overcame both the gravity and escaped the black hole. Let me know when Thor survived a black hole.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She was. She was beating Byth inside the black hole alright.

You phukkin lyin weasel. How did I know you were going to do this shiet? Seriously when will you stop doing this kind of thing?

You specifically cherry picked scans and placed them in such a way to misrepresent your claims. Mutherphukker… The first three scans were from issue #8. At that point it was not even a black hole. It was some kind of rift that led into some kind of pocket in space time.

In fact, u presented it as if she entered said black hole and "emerged" from it.

Truth is she was inside it yes, but got her @$$ handed to her(while it was still not a singularity)... Totally discrediting your other claim of her "beating" Byth inside it. Even worse we have frukking Equinox and Hawkman (two squishies) entering your little "black hole". Lol wtf?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EPRrgHPq9EM/VNxFdVFNmJI/AAAAAAAH-Ao/VoysyoW7is0/s1600/p47_14.jpg

Then we have Colossal Boy w/Gates saving Equinox, Supergirl, and Hawkman by pulling Byth out who had all three heroes in his clutches.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA67SGdI-U/VNxFdo7mpRI/AAAAAAAH-As/f32z5uBjNj4/s1600/p47_15.jpg

Which now brings us to this. Supergirl had at that point rejoined the JLU and the Legionares outside of your "black hole".
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

What I just explained happened in issue #9. Your 4th scan is how issue #9 ended. It's where the rift turned into a black hole. Well after her supposed fight inside a black hole. Lol...

Your 5th and 6th scans come from #10 where the black hole is now causing all kinds of problems. All Supergirl did was fly and save Stargirl and Equinox from Byth as they were getting pulled closer into the black hole. Also we know that Starman was altering its strength. Stargirl and Equinox seemed ok so the pressures at that point could not have been that terrible. Good feat, but not the lie you presented it as.

That shiet is not unlike Thor saving Red Hulk from the extreme pressures of a singularity.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124015/2402360-1627807_red_hulk_vs_thor_11_super.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You phukkin lyin weasel. How did I know you were going to do this shiet? Seriously when will you stop doing this kind of thing?

You specifically cherry picked scans ad placed them in such a way to misrepresent your claims. Mutherphukker. The first three scans were from issue #8. At that point it was not even a black hole. It was some kind of rift that led into some kind of pocket in space time.

In fact, u presented it as if she entered said black hole and "emerged" from it.

Truth is she was inside it, but got her @$$ handed to her. .. Totally discrediting your other claim of her "beating" Byth inside it. Even worse we have frukking Equinox and Hawkman (two squishies) entering your little "black hole". Lol wtf?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EPRrgHPq9EM/VNxFdVFNmJI/AAAAAAAH-Ao/VoysyoW7is0/s1600/p47_14.jpg

Then we have Colossal Boy w/Gates saving Equinox, Supergirl, and Hawkman by pulling Byth out who had all three heroes in his clutches.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA67SGdI-U/VNxFdo7mpRI/AAAAAAAH-As/f32z5uBjNj4/s1600/p47_15.jpg

Which now brings us to this. Supergirl had at that point rejoined the JLU and the Legionares outside of your "black hole".
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

What I just explained happened in issue #9. Your 4th scan is how issue #9 ended. It's where the rift turned into a black hole. Well after her supposed fight inside a black hole. Lol...

Your 5th and 6th scans come from #10 where the black hole is now causing all kinds of problems. All Supergirl did was fly and save Stargirl and Equinox from Byth as they were getting pulled closer into the black hole. Also we know that Starman was altering its strength. Stargirl and Equinox seemed ok so the pressures at that point could not have been that terrible. Good feat, but not the lie you presented it as.

That shiet is not unlike Thor saving Red Hulk from the extreme pressures of a singularity.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124015/2402360-1627807_red_hulk_vs_thor_11_super.jpg


hahahaha the abhi guy is a master at suppositon.

Yeah, Thor saved Red Hulk before he entered the singularity. so..no.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You phukkin lyin weasel. How did I know you were going to do this shiet? Seriously when will you stop doing this kind of thing?

You specifically cherry picked scans and placed them in such a way to misrepresent your claims. Mutherphukker… The first three scans were from issue #8. At that point it was not even a black hole. It was some kind of rift that led into some kind of pocket in space time.

In fact, u presented it as if she entered said black hole and "emerged" from it.

Truth is she was inside it yes, but got her @$$ handed to her(while it was still not a singularity)... Totally discrediting your other claim of her "beating" Byth inside it. Even worse we have frukking Equinox and Hawkman (two squishies) entering your little "black hole". Lol wtf?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EPRrgHPq9EM/VNxFdVFNmJI/AAAAAAAH-Ao/VoysyoW7is0/s1600/p47_14.jpg

Then we have Colossal Boy w/Gates saving Equinox, Supergirl, and Hawkman by pulling Byth out who had all three heroes in his clutches.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA67SGdI-U/VNxFdo7mpRI/AAAAAAAH-As/f32z5uBjNj4/s1600/p47_15.jpg

Which now brings us to this. Supergirl had at that point rejoined the JLU and the Legionares outside of your "black hole".
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

Yes, she was. She still emerged from inside the black hole to rescue Stargirl.

https://s31.postimg.cc/f3dgaqdpz/image.jpg

Even her flight path shows she was inside the black hole.



Hey idiot, try explaining this.

https://s31.postimg.cc/f3dgaqdpz/image.jpg

Thor pulled Rulk off the pressure. Supergirl actually emerged from the black hole and rescued Stargirl.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
hahahaha the abhi guy is a master at suppositon.
Cheeleading, eh? Good for you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, she was. She still emerged from inside the black hole to rescue Stargirl.

https://s31.postimg.cc/f3dgaqdpz/image.jpg

Even her flight path shows she was inside the black hole.



Hey idiot, try explaining this.

https://s31.postimg.cc/f3dgaqdpz/image.jpg

Thor pulled Rulk off the pressure. Supergirl actually emerged from the black hole and rescued Stargirl.
Jesus Christ Almighty!

facepalm



She was never inside any black hole. She already got pulled out of the rift that eventually turned into a black hole.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

Byth who was being pulled into the black hole grabbed Equinox. Stargirl went to get her. Supergirl carried them away as they were both getting pulled. All the while Starman was reducing its strength.

Not sure whether you're grasping at straws or u actually believe what you are saying. If it's the latter... Well then....
superdur

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Jesus Christ Almighty!

facepalm



She was never inside any black hole. She already got pulled out of the rift that eventually turned into a black hole.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

Byth who was being pulled into the black hole grabbed Equinox. Stargirl went to get her. Supergirl carried them away as they were both getting pulled. All the while Starman was reducing its strength.

Not sure whether you're grasping at straws or u actually believe what you are saying. If it's the latter... Well then....
superdur
So no retort to why she emerged from the black hole as even her flight path shows?

Try one more time.

https://s31.postimg.cc/dobvm0cmz/image.jpg

See the last panel?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So no retort to why she emerged from the black hole as even her flight path shows?

Try one more time.

https://s31.postimg.cc/dobvm0cmz/image.jpg

See the last panel?

That was probably the area where Kara grabbed Stargirl and Equinox you dunce head. Sometimes I really wonder about u.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That was probably the area where Kara grabbed Stargirl and Equinox you dunce head. Sometimes I really wonder about u.
Her flight path ends in the black hole, not where she grabbed Stargirl.

Try once again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Her flight path ends in the black hole, not where she grabbed Stargirl.

Try once again.
durpullhair

She was never in the black hole. Show me proof where she entered it and "emerged" from it. Show me proof where she was beating on Byth inside the black hole.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
durpullhair

She was never in the black hole. Show me proof where she entered it and "emerged" from it. Show me proof where she was beating on Byth inside the black hole.
Right, that's why she emerged from the black hole side where Stargirl was falling towards the black hole and her flight path converges with the black hole.

If she was rescuing Stargirl from outside the black hole, it would be from other side. Unless she just went towards the black hole, thought it was uninteresting and took a U turn.

Even you can't be this stupid.

Also the rift through which Supergirl was explicitly an event horizon where space/time was collapsing.

https://s9.postimg.cc/s9gmyriy7/image.jpg

That's pretty much a black hole.

Nice feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, that's why she emerged from the black hole side where Stargirl was falling towards the black hole and her flight path converges with the black hole.

If she was rescuing Stargirl from outside the black hole, it would be from other side. Unless she just went towards the black hole, thought it was uninteresting and took a U turn.

Even you can't be this stupid.

Also the rift through which Supergirl was explicitly an event horizon where space/time was collapsing.

https://s9.postimg.cc/s9gmyriy7/image.jpg

That's pretty much a black hole.
I already explained the scene to u step by step.
This is what happened to Supergirl when she entered the rift.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kGWGZXjgHuo/VNxFiZgCneI/AAAAAAAH-CM/B00WOepujI0/s1600/p47_4.jpg

At that point, it was not a black hole. J'onn had forced Ultra into reversing his transformation into Infinitus.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gW_4OnY7P1E/VNxFgpS866I/AAAAAAAH-Bg/UacAb5FxEjw/s1600/p47_20.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t-mDRDzeMDQ/VNxFhIVDApI/AAAAAAAH-CU/TM5QO0b4P3c/s1600/p47_21.jpg

Problem was Brainy already released his bomb. It caused the rift to turn into a black hole.
https://postimg.cc/image/5801t0r0b/

Before that all happened, Colossal Boy and Gates had already snatched Blyth, Supergirl, Hawkman, and Equinox from inside the rift(not a black hole).
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA67SGdI-U/VNxFdo7mpRI/AAAAAAAH-As/f32z5uBjNj4/s1600/p47_15.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg


They were all safely back into the Polaris system. No black hole when she flew in and no fighting inside a black hole. Kara was already in the vicinity of Stargirl and Equinox when she grabbed them. Admit it, u got caught cherry picking scans. It's either that or u are truly a numbskull.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That shiet is not unlike Thor saving Red Hulk from the extreme pressures of a singularity.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124015/2402360-1627807_red_hulk_vs_thor_11_super.jpg It is specifically said that he picked him before the event horizon, nevermind the actual singularity which is even further down.

Can't you read your own scans? This is a non-feat.

Each side working desperately to discredit the other.

Really Phil? What are u trying to salvage here? Did I say he picked Rulk up beyond the event horizon? What we see is Thor saving Rulk as he endures what looks to be tremendous pressures. Strawman to the fullest. smh...

You said:


They weren't in the singularity, and they weren't even in the event horizon. They were specifically outside, you blind fool .

You're an embarrassment.

Strawmannin idiot.


What is causing the extreme pressures? A singularity. Why would I say he was within the singularity when I posted a pic showing Thor and Rulk were just outside the event horizon ffs? Again what are you trying to salvage here? Abhi already put his foot in his mouth. It's too late for your buddy. Be my guest if you wanna join him. Christ. Do u feel butthurt every time he does something stupid or something?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What is causing the extreme pressures? A singularity. There were no "extreme pressures of a singularity", since they weren't in the singularity, nor the event horizon.

This is literally just a feat of Thor flying in space and grabbing Rulk.

Are you retarded?

I mean what is not adding up here? I just finished explaining myself. You are picking a fight with ureself. Jesus Christ...
facepalm


At this point.....
superdur

this thread... i actually lol'd like 3 different times on this page alone.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I already explained the scene to u step by step.
This is what happened to Supergirl when she entered the rift.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kGWGZXjgHuo/VNxFiZgCneI/AAAAAAAH-CM/B00WOepujI0/s1600/p47_4.jpg

How does that denies Brainiac explicitly saying that the event horizon is collapsing space time?

Irrelevant. She was already inside event horizon collapsing space and time.

She was in vicinity of Stargirl? This is the previous page, show us where Supergirl was hiding.

https://s9.postimg.cc/p2m3f5dxr/image.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
How does that denies Brainiac explicitly saying that the event horizon is collapsing space time?

Irrelevant. She was already inside event horizon collapsing space and time.


Though the term "event horizon" is typically associated with black holes, it can also be used with other cosmological horizons. In this case it was a rift in space time. The collapsing space time was caused by Ultra turning into Infinitus. But you already know this.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QBcvy08q1kE/VLcbTHrwM4I/AAAAAAAHY8Y/40d3JKQ4VYg/s1600/p10_16%2Bcopy.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0OW4anO7kak/VLcbT4luMLI/AAAAAAAHY8A/D_e7pYfJ5sA/s1600/p10_17%2Bcopy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J0KL1mTBe2I/VLcbUALpoKI/AAAAAAAHY8E/V0FZUqUYlzY/s1600/p10_18%2Bcopy.jpg

The black hole was created by Brainy's infinity bomb exploding at the rift without Infinitus taking the payload.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-atKJL1Lijdw/VNxFhhw7FsI/AAAAAAAH-Bw/BbkKYQqHNKc/s1600/p47_3.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-H7DhwD9uB-U/VNxFcQkt5RI/AAAAAAAH-Ac/2Cvw8KLm_Zs/s1600/p47_12.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-87YD_CEi0C0/VNxFcmw1EpI/AAAAAAAH-Ag/gKVr4ipCl_Q/s1600/p47_13.jpg
J'onn reverted Infinitus back into Ultra and then the black hole is created.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t-mDRDzeMDQ/VNxFhIVDApI/AAAAAAAH-CU/TM5QO0b4P3c/s1600/p47_21.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JPpPTtsDsRY/VNxFhUDM29I/AAAAAAAH-Bs/qEoeNYUXKHc/s1600/p47_22.jpg

All of this happened well after Colossal boy had pulled Byth, Kara, Dawnstar, and Hawkman out of the rift.


How do you think the heroes were not troubled by any pressure when they were inside the rift? Hell two of them were squishies like Dawnstar and Hawkman.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qA67SGdI-U/VNxFdo7mpRI/AAAAAAAH-As/f32z5uBjNj4/s1600/p47_15.jpg


Originally posted by abhilegend

She was in vicinity of Stargirl? This is the previous page, show us where Supergirl was hiding.
https://s9.postimg.cc/p2m3f5dxr/image.jpg
facepalm
Just because Kara wasn't shown for a panel or two doesn't mean she wasn't there. Remember they were already out of the rift before it turned into an actual black hole.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

There would be no reason for her to enter the black hole. Nobody was in it. All she did was swoop in and grab Stargirl and Equinox before they got pulled in. Also Starman was reducing the strength of the black hole through his gravity powers. Even worse for you.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9d-diXC05Bs/VQBiBEf0ElI/AAAAAAAIcZQ/OSpS8QIDuPU/s1600/p5_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Seriously, where are you going with this?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Though the term "event horizon" is typically associated with black holes, it can also be used with other cosmological horizons. In this case it was a rift in space time. The collapsing space time was caused by Ultra turning into Infinitus. But you already know this.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QBcvy08q1kE/VLcbTHrwM4I/AAAAAAAHY8Y/40d3JKQ4VYg/s1600/p10_16%2Bcopy.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0OW4anO7kak/VLcbT4luMLI/AAAAAAAHY8A/D_e7pYfJ5sA/s1600/p10_17%2Bcopy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J0KL1mTBe2I/VLcbUALpoKI/AAAAAAAHY8E/V0FZUqUYlzY/s1600/p10_18%2Bcopy.jpg

Supergirl tanked time and space collapsing on her.

How is that anything less Impressive than a black hole?

How is that relevant?

Same stuff as Stargirl actually living when the black hole was exerting its pressure on her.



She was never shown AFTER the black hole was created.

Show me where she is AFTER the black hole was created.

No, she emerged from the black hole, her flight path even shows that.

Starman was doing that AFTER Kara rescued Stargirl.

Not before that.

Where are you going with anything?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl tanked time and space collapsing on her.

How is that anything less Impressive than a black hole?

How is that relevant?

Same stuff as Stargirl actually living when the black hole was exerting its pressure on her.

So Supergirl went from overpowering the pull of a black hole, enduring the full on singularity, and even fighting inside a black hole to tanking a random rift in space time.

hysterical


Originally posted by abhilegend

She was never shown AFTER the black hole was created.

Show me where she is AFTER the black hole was created.

No, she emerged from the black hole, her flight path even shows that.

Starman was doing that AFTER Kara rescued Stargirl.

Not before that.

Where are you going with anything?
The utter stupidity of these statements and you desperately trying to prove a point is beyond the pale. Remember you did this to yourself. I'm done with you. Why don't you go take your batshiet and find yourself an actual black hole. Because after this I'm pretty sure you'd want to hide in it for the rest of the year.

This thread is becoming increasingly entertaining.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So Supergirl went from overpowering the pull of a black hole, enduring the full on singularity, and even fighting inside a black hole to tanking a random rift in space time.

hysterical

I like how you went from opposing all that to simple rhetoric nonsense.

She did all of that BTW.

Concession accepted boy. When you have something remotely making sense, then start talking again.

Scarlet witch.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So Supergirl went from overpowering the pull of a black hole, enduring the full on singularity, and even fighting inside a black hole to tanking a random rift in space time.

hysterical



The utter stupidity of these statements and you desperately trying to prove a point is beyond the pale. Remember you did this to yourself. I'm done with you. Why don't you go take your batshiet and find yourself an actual black hole. Because after this I'm pretty sure you'd want to hide in it for the rest of the year.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl vs a black hole

https://s9.postimg.cc/od3b2rat7/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5xiu5dc4b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/lvrjvie23/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/5801t0r0b/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/sm814ygnf/image.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/jr76ufzkr/image.jpg

Supergirl getting hit by the weight of a moon.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jvAQuFNAgIg/WoRi5jkxSEI/AAAAAAAAELE/dhDNTdJUdbEme3293QJxj1Ycoqg7euhjgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO010.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-icRoWvbPOic/WoRi6i97T1I/AAAAAAAAELQ/QMeci2-hjU4qnk-KCngvD4bJutSGNVmawCHMYCw/s1600/RCO011.jpg Shouldn't that be considered a durability feat as opposed to a strength feat ??

Originally posted by abhilegend
Try and prove Thor is even as durable as Superman. I need a good laugh Thor was able to tank a supernova, while Superman was KO'ed. Superman is shown tanking hits from high herald level beings, while Thor is tanking hits from Skyfather's, Hell Lords, and even Celestials & Galactus. Is that sufficient?

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Shouldn't that be considered a durability feat as opposed to a strength feat ??
Overpowering the pull is a strength feat.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Thor was able to tank a supernova, while Superman was KO'ed.

Thor never tanked any supernova, that was an illusion and Thor was actually shown to be vaporized. Superman has tanked several supernova however.

Superman has literally tanked hits from abstract beings like Emperor Joker, Abstract Luthor (more powerful than Death of Endless) and several such beings.

I will show you two such feats for Superman for every feat you can show for Thor.

Is that sufficient for you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor never tanked any supernova, that was an illusion and Thor was actually shown to be vaporized. Superman has tanked several supernova however.

Superman has literally tanked hits from abstract beings like Emperor Joker, Abstract Luthor (more powerful than Death of Endless) and several such beings.

I will show you two such feats for Superman for every feat you can show for Thor.

Is that sufficient for you? Sure do it. And unworthy thor tanked a solar system explosion from a ship. Thor was never vaporized by a supermova, show this

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Sure do it. And unworthy thor tanked a solar system explosion from a ship. Thor was never vaporized by a supermova, show this
He never did that too. The blast was never shown to be that big and didn't even destroy the city sized Asgard either.

Sure.

Originally posted by abhilegend
A supernova owns Thor, Drax, Maxam, Thanos, Gladiator etc.

http://i.imgur.com/8MlDsKc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RgUkI8R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HAG66JQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eVXdz7m.jpg

Even though it was illusion created by Warlock, if he hadn't created it Goddess would've killed the whole universe with those exploding stars.

http://i.imgur.com/30uPDmt.jpg

mmm

http://i.imgur.com/30uPDmt.jpg

That sounds like the mother of all cop outs.

"The universe didn't end. I cast an illusion!"

And the last season of Dallas was a dream.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I like how you went from opposing all that to simple rhetoric nonsense.

She did all of that BTW.

Concession accepted boy. When you have something remotely making sense, then start talking again.
You haven't shown me anything except your cherry picked scans.

Just looking at it again reminds me of how u can stoop so low. Lol u didn't think anyone would check on your claims? It's common knowledge by now that second guessing u is a normal occurrnce.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You haven't shown me anything except your cherry picked scans.

Just looking at it again reminds me of how u can stoop so low. Lol u didn't think anyone would check on your claims? It's common knowledge by now that second guessing u is a normal occurrnce.
I've shown you exactly how it was in the comic.

Just because you can't accept it doesn't mean anything.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it was shown as such?

Thor's been in the sun a few times but a supernova is far more deadly than simple sun.

it was shown as an ILLUSION.


this is you "b--but he was gonna kill the whole universe with just exploding stars"

^that's just a statement, are you saying the nobody in the 616 can survive an exploding star?

So lemme ask u. Was the rift an actual black hole when Kara entered?

When Brainy accidentally transformed the rift into an actual black hole, did Kara reenter? If so, why do u think she entered it again?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
it was shown as an ILLUSION.


this is you "b--but he was gonna kill the whole universe with just exploding stars"

^that's just a statement, are you saying the nobody in the 616 can survive an exploding star?
That's what Warlock said and why he needed to create the illusion.

Don't cry to me boy. Complain to Starlin if you want.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So lemme ask u. Was the rift an actual black hole when Kara entered?

When Brainy accidentally transformed the rift into an actual black hole, did Kara reenter? If so, why do u think she entered it again?
It had event horizon collapsing space and time. Even more impressive than a black hole actually.

She must have been dragged inside by the surprise.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's what Warlock said and why he needed to create the illusion.

Don't cry to me boy. Complain to Starlin if you want.


Well, it was an illusion so try again. Superman's been Ko'ed by a supernova LMAO

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Well, it was an illusion so try again. Superman's been Ko'ed by a supernova LMAO
Well Thor has never taken one so what's your point?

Heck Mangog died in the sun.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well Thor has never taken one so what's your point?

Heck Mangog died in the sun.

Heat vision IS hotter then the sun...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well Thor has never taken one so what's your point?

Heck Mangog died in the sun.

you're right, unworthy thor tanked much better, and tanked being in a neutron star.

claiming Supergirl is stronger than Thor is outright downplaying. Hercules armwrestling with Thor threw the planet out of orbit.

Supergirl is not even a planet buster, heck her best feat is destroying a moon.

Mjolnir has tons of herald level feats including knocking out the phoenix force for awhile, prove why won't strike from Mjolnir won't Ko Supergirl OR Superman. nobody on superman level has ever beaten blood and thunder thor with no morals

Originally posted by abhilegend
It had event horizon collapsing space and time. Even more impressive than a black hole actually.

She must have been dragged inside by the surprise.
Technically time and space were collapsing right after she followed Byth's ship into the rift. Anyways...
So there were extreme pressures just outside and inside the rift?
Even though they never depicted anything of that sort?
Also why wasn't the rift threatening the nearby planet(Thanagar)the way it did went it was turned into a black hole?
Why weren't the heroes feeling the pull of the rift even when Infinitus's transformation caused "collapsing space time"?
Only when the black hole was created were the heroes all of a sudden in danger of being pulled in. Why is that?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
you're right, unworthy thor tanked much better, and tanked being in a neutron star.

Where?

Future reality. Only a plateau was displaced, no planet was displaced.



When Thor can destroy a moon by his punches or strikes without mjolnir, let me know.

Supergirl has choked J'onn out with one hand and two punched Ultraman. She would punch Thor's teeth in.

Thor tried that on Superman, he just caught the hammer and punched Thor's lights out.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Technically time and space were collapsing right after she followed Byth's ship into the rift. Anyways...
So there were extreme pressures just outside and inside the rift?
Even though they never depicted anything of that sort?
Brainy outright said time and space were collapsing on the event horizon. What is your point?

Chalk it up on comic inconsistencies. Supergirl literally tanked space and time collapsing on her and you're questioning it when it was literally spelled out.

Guess even that is not good enough until it's Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Brainy outright said time and space were collapsing on the event horizon. What is your point?
Lol.. That she didn't feel any gravitational anomalies until Brainy created the black hole.

And technically time and space were stated to be collapsing after she and Byth entered the rift. You know, when Ultra started to transform into Infinitus. Even then no discernible struggle by the heroes from any "pull or pressure".

Black hole created, Boom! All hell breaks loose.


Originally posted by abhilegend

Chalk it up on comic inconsistencies. Supergirl literally tanked space and time collapsing on her and you're questioning it when it was literally spelled out.

Guess even that is not good enough until it's Thor.
You avoided each and every simply worded question. Very telling indeed. And like I said, technically the collapse happened after the entrance.



At least now your lack of response to these easy questions tells me you agree that she did not endure a singularity point blank and she did not beat Byth in one as well. Progress.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol.. That she didn't feel any gravitational anomalies until Brainy created the black hole.

And technically time and space were stated to be collapsing after she and Byth entered the rift. You know, when Ultra started to transform into Infinitus. Even then no discernible struggle by the heroes from any "pull or pressure".

Black hole created, Boom! All hell breaks loose.

Right, what's time and space collapsing compared to a black hole which does not collapses space and time.



She already survived time and space collapse and being inside a black hole.

Cry more.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where?

Future reality. Only a plateau was displaced, no planet was displaced.



When Thor can destroy a moon by his punches or strikes without mjolnir, let me know.

Supergirl has choked J'onn out with one hand and two punched Ultraman. She would punch Thor's teeth in.

Thor tried that on Superman, he just caught the hammer and punched Thor's lights out.

How does choking someone out implies superiority in strength? that was dark supergirl. What has Ultraman done in terms of strength compared to Thor besides that outlier infinite feat?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, what's time and space collapsing compared to a black hole which does not collapses space and time.
I don't know. U tell me. I know what usually happens in comics when a black hole is nearby. This rift however you're going to have to explain since there was no apparent danger due to gravity when that happened.


Originally posted by abhilegend



She already survived time and space collapse and being inside a black hole.

Cry more.
Ok back to black hole. Where again does it show Supergirl being inside a black hole?

Scarlet Witch could send Supergirl to a place beyond the probablility of the big bang.
Scientists have been studying what occurs beyond it and further.

SG probably KO's Wanda before she can act. This is if Kara is serious.

As a witch it is possible she doesn't have to be conscious or in a state of power to win this fight.
Magic coalesces sometimes and she can also find out secrets that way as well as when she uses pentagrams.

Overpowering certain characters is impressive showing of strength, but unless someone does that to characters that operate on that level all the time or if a said character is consistently overpowered by them, it doesn't prove that he/she is strait up superior to another character. J'onn still has much better feats than Kara.

@abhilegend: Care to post the scans + issues that proves Superman is more durable than Thor? (I feel like this should be its own thread)

Originally posted by Wonder Man
As a witch it is possible she doesn't have to be conscious or in a state of power to win this fight.
Magic coalesces sometimes and she can also find out secrets that way as well as when she uses pentagrams.

If Wanda is unconscious, that means a win for Kara, according to the rules.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
How does choking someone out implies superiority in strength? that was dark supergirl. What has Ultraman done in terms of strength compared to Thor besides that outlier infinite feat?

You can't choke someone out with one hand unless you are stronger. Dark Supergirl who was matched by Kara and beaten by Superman.

What do you mean, what does someone has to do to be stronger than Thor? And why wouldn't the infinite book be counted?

Ultraman survived the destruction of his entire universe too.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I don't know. U tell me. I know what usually happens in comics when a black hole is nearby. This rift however you're going to have to explain since there was no apparent danger due to gravity when that happened.

Right, space and time collapsing is no big deal. Tell me more.

When she emerged from it to rescue Stargirl.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
@abhilegend: Care to post the scans + issues that proves Superman is more durable than Thor? (I feel like this should be its own thread)
What kind of feats are we looking here? You said Thor survives hits from skyfathers, I said I would show you two better feats for Superman.

But I'm gonna bump a Superman/Thor durability thread. Why don't you show us what you got.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What kind of feats are we looking here? You said Thor survives hits from skyfathers, I said I would show you two better feats for Superman.

But I'm gonna bump a Superman/Thor durability thread. Why don't you show us what you got.

Show me Superman one-shotting or making an example out of a Thor foe, or Thor level foes

Supergirl choking J'onn is an one time instance, that doesn't neccesarily mean she's stronger. J'onn has much better feats, you can't find more than one instance where Superman has even had an advantage on mmh

and Supergirl is arguably than Supes, just like PG mentioned he already lost to her.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Show me Superman one-shotting or making an example out of a Thor foe, or Thor level foes

Who would be Thor level in DC then? Give me the example of a character?

Is Despero Thor level?

Yes, it does. Doomsday Rex also overpowered J'onn like a child. Same as DOS Doomsday who no sold Bloodwynd (J'onn in disguise) while Superman literally punched him to death.

Superman and J'onn has only fought a few times in Post crisis continuity and Superman tossed him aside like nothing under Despero control, overpowered him while he was amped by Blackrock. J'onn isn't even comparable to Superboy who oneshotted him in New 52.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and Supergirl is arguably than Supes, just like PG mentioned he already lost to her.
Supergirl is arguably what compared to Superman? Even Ursa overpowered Kara while Superman was fighting Zod, Non and Ursa combined.

Power Girl? You're seriously just an idiot who has no idea about Superman, aren't you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, space and time collapsing is no big deal. Tell me more.
So nothing. Ok gud.

Originally posted by abhilegend

When she emerged from it to rescue Stargirl.
So why did she go in the black hole again? I may have missed a plot point. The heroes were outside, but she decided to jump in then jump out, then grab Stargirl and Equinox?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So nothing. Ok gud.

Yeah, what is space and time collapsing until it happens to Thor.

Someone remind me of time acting like tar inside the godbomb.

She was dragged inside the black hole when it opened. That's why she is never shown amongst the heroes AFTER the black hole opens.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, what is space and time collapsing until it happens to Thor.

Someone remind me of time acting like tar inside the godbomb.

Space/time collapsing happened explicitly after she and Byth entered the rift. Godbomb? Lol that's not this. Not even remotely close to it. Ure like throwing everything now. Btw just so u know, nothing is sticking.

Originally posted by abhilegend

She was dragged inside the black hole when it opened. That's why she is never shown amongst the heroes AFTER the black hole opens.
Show me where she was dragged in. U expect the readers to accept out of all who was there, she was the only one weak enough to get dragged in when the Brainy created the black hole? Lol she's like one of the most powerful ones there along with Mon-El and J'onn. The likes of Green Arrow didn't get dragged in, but she did?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl is arguably what compared to Superman? Even Ursa overpowered Kara while Superman was fighting Zod, Non and Ursa combined.

Power Girl? You're seriously just an idiot who has no idea about Superman, aren't you?

Did Superman overpower all of them 3 of them though? and when I said "PG" I meant PantherGod, a baby could figure that out.

Non already beat Superman solo before, so not sure how that comparison really mean anything.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Space/time collapsing happened explicitly after she and Byth entered the rift. Godbomb? Lol that's not this. Not even remotely close to it. Ure like throwing everything now. Btw just so u know, nothing is sticking.

It was happening when she entered the rift. Try to at least read what you are spouting nonsense about.

Yeah, because she was conveniently not shown anywhere, right?

Why don't you show where she is when the shot of the heroes is shown after black hole opens?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Did Superman overpower all of them 3 of them though? and when I said "PG" I meant PantherGod, a baby could figure that out.

He overpowered Non and Ursa together.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/nonursashruggoff1.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/nonursashruggoff2.jpg



Superman overpowered and outright caught his punch when he had enough with Non.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesnonpunch.jpg

You really are an idiot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He overpowered Non and Ursa together.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/nonursashruggoff1.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/nonursashruggoff2.jpg



Superman overpowered and outright caught his punch when he had enough with Non.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesnonpunch.jpg

You really are an idiot.


ABC logic doesn't always work, superman himself had stated supergirl was possibly stronger than her, and managed to bloody him while mind controlled.

Non and Ursa don't have any showings relative on par with Thor. Thor has shattered stars, destroyed a white dwarf star with BRB, destroyed nearby planets, etc etc

Mjolnir even destroyed the heart of demogre who is comparable to Eternity

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was happening when she entered the rift. Try to at least read what you are spouting nonsense about.

Yeah, because she was conveniently not shown anywhere, right?

Why don't you show where she is when the shot of the heroes is shown after black hole opens?
Really? Burden of proof is on u. Was explicitly shown after Byth(ship) and her entered the rift.

Sunboy wasn't shown after this scan. Might as well claim he was sucked in the black hole too.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-41lM29g2-rw/VNxFdwLxIrI/AAAAAAAH-BY/ZwAVzw6jFSs/s1600/p47_16.jpg

That's not how it works. Burden is on u to show she was sucked into the black hole. Otherwise it's understood she was in the vicinity of the other heroes.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ABC logic doesn't always work, superman himself had stated supergirl was possibly stronger than her, and managed to bloody him while mind controlled.

That was Superman holding back and Supergirl not holding back. Once he got serious, he overpowered her easily.

Thor has never shattered stars, either alone or with BRB and never destroyed any planets against Gorr either.

Orion destroyed an entire solar system with just Shockwave of his fights and he was less powerful than new 52 Superman alone.

That's how far below Superman Thor is.

Superman punched through Soul fire Darkseid who was overpowering Source himself.

And Demogorge is hardly Eternity level. He got killed by random skrull gods FFS.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was Superman holding back and Supergirl not holding back. Once he got serious, he overpowered her easily.

Thor has never shattered stars, either alone or with BRB and never destroyed any planets against Gorr either.

Orion destroyed an entire solar system with just Shockwave of his fights and he was less powerful than new 52 Superman alone.

That's how far below Superman Thor is.

Superman punched through Soul fire Darkseid who was overpowering Source himself.

And Demogorge is hardly Eternity level. He got killed by random skrull gods FFS.


No it didn't, it was caused by the golem not Orion. Orion boomtubed to the destroyed solar system

Hence why he stated "OF ALL PLACES IN THE MULTIVERSE, WHY WOULD HIGHFATHER SEND ME HERE?" indicating he wasn't there before

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Arralya5RAM/WYq8hBq_DDI/AAAAAAAABKo/QX0E4YOlS4If-PxbfbC4Xz0UDruJO-rLgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO016.jpg


Overpowering Non and Ursa isn't something Thor can do?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
No it didn't, it was caused by the golem not Orion. Orion boomtubed to the destroyed solar system

Hence why he stated "OF ALL PLACES IN THE MULTIVERSE, WHY WOULD HIGHFATHER SEND ME HERE?" indicating he wasn't there before

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Arralya5RAM/WYq8hBq_DDI/AAAAAAAABKo/QX0E4YOlS4If-PxbfbC4Xz0UDruJO-rLgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO016.jpg


Overpowering Non and Ursa isn't something Thor can do?
Orion was already fighting the golem and Kyle later said it was Orion who destroyed the solar system.


http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5904.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5905.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5906.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5908.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5910.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5913.jpg

https://s6.postimg.cc/idf4xk1v5/004_0007.jpg

Thor would be lucky to overpower Supergirl. Forget about Non and Ursa.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion was already fighting the golem and Kyle later said it was Orion who destroyed the solar system.


http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5904.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5905.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5906.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5908.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5910.jpg
http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/16/5913.jpg

https://s6.postimg.cc/idf4xk1v5/004_0007.jpg

Thor would be lucky to overpower Supergirl. Forget about Non and Ursa.

Kyle didnt even witness the clash

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Kyle didnt even witness the clash

Well he has better knowledge about that than you do and Orion was already fighting the golem.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well he has better knowledge about that than you do and Orion was already fighting the golem.

no, i mean it's just a statement, he wasn't there to ACTUALLY witness the destruction


also explain how some kryptonians are stronger than the others or how some with military training can lose to those without when they get their powers the same way?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
no, i mean it's just a statement, he wasn't there to ACTUALLY witness the destruction


also explain how some kryptonians are stronger than the others or how some with military training can lose to those without when they get their powers the same way?
He knew that the destruction happened because of Orion. That's enough.

Not all kryptoninans are equally powerful. Superman is the most powerful kryptoninan however.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion was already fighting the golem and Kyle later said it was Orion who destroyed the solar system.

enormously impressive regardless, but certainly a shared feat.

Originally posted by leonidas
enormously impressive regardless, but certainly a shared feat.
Doesn't matters when it comes to world breaker hulk. Why should it matter to Orion.

Huh, huh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doesn't matters when it comes to world breaker hulk. Why should it matter to Orion.

Huh, huh?

Hulk is fighting an equal, so we know he is contributing 50%. Golem clearly contributes bulk.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Hulk is fighting an equal, so we know he is contributing 50%. Golem clearly contributes bulk.
Except Kyle said it was Orion and not the golem.