nightcrawler vs quicksilver

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leonidas
think the mindset that absolutely wrecked sabes. can nc take the speedster?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by leonidas
think the mindset that absolutely wrecked sabes.

Sabes - pussified post-Axis Sabes - still won.

Originally posted by leonidas
can nc take the speedster?

Is QS serious as well?

riv6672
QS in character is still winning this. He doesnt need to be CBRing.

Digi
Fight starts, NCer bamphs, QS starts moving. Unless NC gets really, really lucky, he's never going to be able to pinpoint a place to bamph to that will allow him a strike. He'd have maybe a 5-10% chance on the first strike. After that, basically no chance at all. Eventually he gets punched by a blur a handful of times and it's lights out.

QS 9.8/10

Philosophía
Quicksilver stomps, tbh.

StyleTime
Nightcrawler has definitely been caught/KO'd by enhanced reflex types, like Gambit or Wolverine.

Even with a forum mindset, the increase in response time won't close the gap against legit speedsters like Pietro.

Unless it's in a comic of course, then Pietro runs headfirst into Kurt's fist while talking smack.

leonidas
hmm, you think? nc has some pretty great speed feats iirc. def some bullet speed feats (i thought....?) i was thinking it was in a city (should have specified) but that he could maybe port objects down on him from above and stay out of range for most of it, maybe slow qs down. had a funny though of him porting a sword in front of qs and him running into it or something.

meh, maybe it's not a good match up. thought between his speed and powers nc could get some wins. /shrug

riv6672
It was a good idea for a fight, Leon. Its just a fight NC loses.

DarkSaint85
QS wins.

He can sense teleporters:
http://i.imgur.com/cRWfa76.jpg

And NC gives off signals:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/3303066-1545130-__________________________11.jpg

riv6672
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And NC gives off signals:

True.
A second is all Iron Fist needs...

https://i.imgflip.com/28v0gv.jpg

...so QS can probably make lunch as well, in that time.

leonidas
Originally posted by riv6672
It was a good idea for a fight, Leon. Its just a fight NC loses.

it's no hiv thread, agreed, but i tried. thumb up

leonidas
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
QS wins.

He can sense teleporters:
http://i.imgur.com/cRWfa76.jpg

And NC gives off signals:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/3303066-1545130-__________________________11.jpg

hmm, not sure those 2 can be equated....

still doesn't address the idea of nc staying out of range and just dropping random sh!t on him. in a city qs would also have to find him and nc can hide in shadows pretty well... i'm stretching maybe, but it still doesn't feel like a totally lost cause for nc imo. /shrug

Supermutant
Plus someone who has fought NC many times like QS would know how he usually attacks. And QS is definitely fast enough to counter if Cyclops is. You're welcome PR.

https://i.imgur.com/ZxuR7I2h.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149643/3683512-3158288-cyclops%2Btagging%2Bkurt.jpeg

leonidas
qs and nc have actually fought somewhere? i know they've interacted a lot, but don't think i've seen them fight. where'd that happen?

StiltmanFTW
Don't recall them fighting, either.

Maybe in UXM First Class? But it's not a showing I'd use, as Summers was clear on how the "All-New, All-Different" team suffered from the lack of training against speedsters.

zopzop
QS should win in a forum fight or comic fight. NC has the better powerset though.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
NC has the better powerset though.

Debatable.

QS can do a whole f*cking more than just to run fast, you know.

And his main power has many by-products.

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Not all mutants are like Ugly John "oh, I have three ugly mugs and that's it" stick out tongue

riv6672

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Debatable.

QS can do a whole f*cking more than just to run fast, you know.

And his main power has many by-products.

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Like? A bloodthirsty and creative NC can do horrible things with his TP power (never mind the whole wall crawling and meld into shadows thing he does).

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
Like? A bloodthirsty and creative NC can do horrible things with his TP power (never mind the whole wall crawling and meld into shadows thing he does).

Like superhuman durability or Class 10 leg strength.

Or this...

http://i.imgur.com/Tnqr5UE.png

http://i.imgur.com/RFAbAfw.png

leonidas

riv6672
Actually the difference is, in your threads, i can get you to keep replying to me, and have fun at your expense, while in my threads, you dont have a prayer of doing that, Leon.

Please...reply and tell me your opinion on the above.

leonidas

leonidas

cdtm
Quote not working..

But who are you calling a troll, Leo?

Does a troll get 9 pages out of Superman vs stupidly lopsided gauntlet with a phantom zone projector? stick out tongue

leonidas
ah, touche.... thumb up

StyleTime
This escalated so quickly lol

leonidas
lol carry over from a different thread. i left things alone but....he had to peek his head in and bait. thread was coming to nothing anyway so figured i'd be his huckleberry. i've had my fun though and am good. thumb up

riv6672
I got 3 more posts directed at me. Good stuff! smile

Originally posted by cdtm
But who are you calling a troll, Leo?

Leon doesnt seem to enjoy my shortening his nom de plume.

DarkSaint85
Can we all just agree that I'm right?

riv6672
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Can we all just agree that I'm right?
I thought we had.

DarkSaint85
We need multiple pages confirming this

Sin I AM
Originally posted by leonidas
think the mindset that absolutely wrecked sabes. can nc take the speedster?

if Kurt could remove a limb then yes hed take QS for the maj

Digi
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, you think? nc has some pretty great speed feats iirc. def some bullet speed feats (i thought....?) i was thinking it was in a city (should have specified) but that he could maybe port objects down on him from above and stay out of range for most of it, maybe slow qs down. had a funny though of him porting a sword in front of qs and him running into it or something.

meh, maybe it's not a good match up. thought between his speed and powers nc could get some wins. /shrug

Dropped objects wouldn't have much more chance, and there's still the issue of knowing where to port to with QS moving around so quickly. Especially with the recent scans posted, I think Kurt is boned no matter how you slice it.

My take is that, yes, it's a lopsided matchup, but not obviously so until you tease out how it would actually go down. There's a phrase in science about some hypotheses being only a hypothesis, but being "worth disproving." I feel like this was a hypothesis worth disproving, so to speak.

leonidas
and lo and behold there came unto the thread a voice and light of reason.... i can get behind that. thumb up

riv6672

Digi
You're assuming a "hoped for" outcome, though. Pretty sure leo was just curious. This isn't a Superman/Hulk/Thor bait thread.

/srug

leonidas

riv6672
^^^tell me more anout my eyes, Leon...smile

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