Mace Windu vs Yoda

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Sinious
Who wins?

How close would this fight be?

Who would perform better against high tier dark siders like Sheev, Valkorion, Plagueis etc

Give reasons

Azronger
It'd be pretty close. Both sides have quotes saying they're better than the other in both the Force and lightsaber combat and then there are quotes saying they are equal in both categories. You can try to sort them out date-by-date to figure out which ones are the latest and place more value on those, but it's a very close fight regardless.

They both also have the feat of contending with Darth Sidious, the specifics of which can again be argued to weigh the scale to either side, but the feats place them in he same league overall.

Freedon Nadd
Windu takes this. But with difficulty.

Kurk
Windu's Vaapad isn't precise enough to go up against Yoda. His form is all about wild, aggressive, arching move-sets unlike Dooku's Makashi. He'd perform worse than Dooku IMO.

MythLord
Yoda wins, pretty obviously. Most sources proclaim him superior, and sources that place them on par are few and far between, and there's also a lot of quotes and feats of Windu that would place him a few notches below Yoda.

He'd give Yoda nice fight, but he'd fall.

Rebel95
Yoda, very close fight.

TheNuisanceBird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teg3KTi59ds&t=31s

Darth Thor
Sabers - Yoda in a very close fight.

Force - Yoda no question.

All Out - Yoda for a vast majority. But there is that off chance he could lose due to the near parity in Sabers.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by Kurk
Windu's Vaapad isn't precise enough to go up against Yoda. His form is all about wild, aggressive, arching move-sets unlike Dooku's Makashi. He'd perform worse than Dooku IMO.
And yet a boi named Sheevy lightsabre-equaled Yoda who lost to Windu.

Kurk
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
And yet a boi named Sheevy lightsabre-equaled Yoda who lost to Windu. He lost to Windu's power and aggression. Those two things tend to not work well against Yoda.

CuckedCurry
Originally posted by MythLord
Yoda wins, pretty obviously. Most sources proclaim him superior, and sources that place them on par are few and far between, and there's also a lot of quotes and feats of Windu that would place him a few notches below Yoda.

He'd give Yoda nice fight, but he'd fall.

Lord Stark
Yoda stomps in a 1v1. The only thing Mace can rival Yoda in is defeating Dark Siders due to the nature of his abilities. But yeah if the fought, Yoda defeats him soundly.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by Kurk
He lost to Windu's power and aggression. Those two things tend to not work well against Yoda.

He lost because lightsabre-ly Mace was better.

NewGuy01
Yoda should win soundly in all arenas, frankly. At his best, Mace approaches Yoda in almost all fields, but he's his equal in none.

And yes, that includes their effectiveness against the Sith. Yoda is the greatest foe the darkness has ever known, not Mace.

relentless1
Yoda destroys; Mace doesn't have his super special one time upgrade against Yoda

Having said that I think Mace would do better against any high tier Sith Lord due to his Vaapaad loop

Prekzursil
youtu.be/dzfe9qhGNf4

Geistalt
Originally posted by relentless1
Yoda destroys; Mace doesn't have his super special one time upgrade against Yoda

Having said that I think Mace would do better against any high tier Sith Lord due to his Vaapaad loop

JMANGO
Yes, Yoda destroys. Either continuities.

Legends Mace will put up even less of a fight than Dooku did.
Canon clearly indicates that the Sidious battle is circumstantial via underperformances against Talzin and Maul from Windu.

Haschwalth
Yoda in a close fight.

samappo
Wow, Mace isn't better than Sidious in sabers, the fight was heavily circumstantial.

Freedon Nadd
By what?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by JMANGO

Canon clearly indicates that the Sidious battle is circumstantial via underperformances against Talzin and Maul from Windu.


Well Talzins hardly a lightweight.

As for Maul not being instantly blitzed, well that sounds about right. Given SOD was likely Maul at his peak.

JMANGO
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well Talzins hardly a lightweight.

Empty Statement of the Day. Sheev disarmed Talzin in two panels while he professed her Dooku's duelling inferior. And Yoda disarmed Sheev.



A failure to incapacitate Maul in general tells me that he's below sheev in power. And while this is nuanced, Maul did react to an incoming missile faster than Windu. If Mace was so powerful one would expect his senses match the claim. But they don't appear to.

BazookaMaster
Yoda wins, but a fight is good.

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