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All bloodlusted. Fight in a city. Who is left standing?

Colossus.

I think I'll go with Rhino.

They are all pretty comparable in strength, so their fists won't do each other in easy.

But Rhino's horn could be fatal.

Yeah, even non-Serpent horn had some pretty crazy piercing feats.

He stabbed depowered Juggernaut with his horn, though I don't think Rhino was at his normal strength levels at the time.

Yeah, he might've been amped.

Stabbing Fixit is a more legit feat.

I just remember KM always saying that Rhino was amped during that fight but I don't recall that being stated in the comic though he clearly was different there so it might have been true.

As for the fight it comes down to Thing and Colossus which imo is as close as it gets. I'm gonna back Colossus because I think he's tougher overall.

I'm gonna give this to the thing. Ben has better pain tolerance imo.

The Rhino. I'd almost argue he's the strongest of the bunch too.

Then you are on crack.

Hey, Rhino has feats like sending Nova (Rider) to the orbit or fighting Savage Hulk for days.

And he's been working out since then, has become more ruthless too.

Rhino's got some good feats but he don't have the pure lifting feats that Colossus and Thing have. That's not so say he's not in their league.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hey, Rhino has feats like sending Nova (Rider) to the orbit or fighting Savage Hulk for days.

And he's been working out since then, has become more ruthless too. Didn't Colossus throw Wolverine almost to orbit? In Whedon's Astonishing run I recall Beast saying that he was almost into orbit right before Colossus fast balled him to Ord's ship.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Rhino's got some good feats but he don't have the pure lifting feats that Colossus and Thing have. That's not so say he's not in their league.

Well, good thing it's not a lifting competition, then...

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't Colossus throw Wolverine almost to orbit? In Whedon's Astonishing run I recall Beast saying that he was almost into orbit right before Colossus fast balled him to Ord's ship.

Key word: almost.

And he threw Logan. Rhino did it with a punch.

I like how none of Things feats count on the forum. Rhino did good against so and so one time... he wins.

Lets ignore how Thing has done against Hulk, Thor, Namor, Surfer. He also did incredibly well against Colossus with the Juggernaut amp. Thing is one of those guys who routinely punches above his weightclass much like Spider-Man. He has better feats in every category than these guys. And probably lesser lows than Colossus too.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I like how none of Things feats count on the forum. Rhino did good against so and so one time... he wins.

Lets ignore how Thing has done against Hulk, Thor, Namor, Surfer. He also did incredibly well against Colossus with the Juggernaut amp. Thing is one of those guys who routinely punches above his weightclass much like Spider-Man. He has better feats in every category than these guys. And probably lesser lows than Colossus too. There isn't anybody lowballing Thing, I know how tough he is.

He beat Namor during AVX in the deep.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Key word: almost.

And he threw Logan. Rhino did it with a punch. Well he might have went into orbit had he not crashed into Ord's ship.

Do you have a scan of Rhino punching Nova? For some reason I thought he rammed him.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
He beat Namor during AVX in the deep.

It was written by a woman, lol.

But yes, sadly, it canonically happened. It was also stated on panel that he punches harder than Namor, wasn't it?

Ben gets my vote. he's the Galactic Super Heavy Weight Wrestling Champ. Super Atomic Pile Driver FTW.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well he might have went into orbit had he not crashed into Ord's ship.

Do you have a scan of Rhino punching Nova? For some reason I thought he rammed him.

"Almost", "might have", not enough.

Sure. Here you are:

1. https://i.imgur.com/4K6AjPl.jpg
2. https://i.imgur.com/3wocYqW.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was written by a woman, lol.

But yes, sadly, it canonically happened. It was also stated on panel that he punches harder than Namor, wasn't it? Yea it was stated that way. But Thing has a bigger fist than Namor so that may have something to do with that.

During a New Mutants issue a single Nimrod knocked out Namor iirc. Colossus was smashing them while it took like the combined effort of 5 of them to overpower him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Almost", "might have", not enough.

Sure. Here you are:

1. https://i.imgur.com/4K6AjPl.jpg
2. https://i.imgur.com/3wocYqW.jpg Did She-Hulk beat him up after that again? I think she has a really good record against Rhino.

Colossus was actually breaking open if we're talking about the same instance.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11133/111339903/6280955-0816115302-21826.jpg

Scan of a Nimrod taking out Namor? Second Coming?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
There isn't anybody lowballing Thing, I know how tough he is.

He beat Namor during AVX in the deep. You queers are talking about how amazing Rhino's showings are like it gives him an edge in this thread.

It'd be like me talking up a guy with muscular dystrophy and saying things like "He once walked for a full 2 minutes without collapsing" and "He once picked up a whole 3 ring binder full of printed off recipes" and talking like that has merit against Ted Bundy in his prime. Thing Bundy might not be the toughest cookie out there, but he's come out on top against people far superior to Muscular Dystrophy Rhino.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Colossus was actually breaking open if we're talking about the same instance.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11133/111339903/6280955-0816115302-21826.jpg Like 4 Nimrods held him down while one adjusted his strength adequately to break Colossus' arm.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
You queers are talking about how amazing Rhino's showings are like it gives him an edge in this thread.

It'd be like me talking up a guy with muscular dystrophy and saying things like "He once walked for a full 2 minutes without collapsing" and "He once picked up a whole 3 ring binder full of printed off recipes" and talking like that has merit against Ted Bundy in his prime. Thing Bundy might not be the toughest cookie out there, but he's come out on top against people far superior to Muscular Dystrophy Rhino. Those would be impressive things if they happened.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Did She-Hulk beat him up after that again? I think she has a really good record against Rhino.

Yup.

Jen has plenty of great showings against big guys, even under her normal power levels.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Scan of a Nimrod taking out Namor? Second Coming? Something like that. Same issue where Colossus got gang banged.

Don't recall that, but it's been a while.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't recall that, but it's been a while. Namor has a lot of nuthuggers so they don't speak of it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yup.

Jen has plenty of great showings against big guys, even under her normal power levels. Except teenage Colossus.............

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Namor has a lot of nuthuggers so they don't speak of it.

Well, you're biased yourself, just against him

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Except teenage Colossus.............

You're referring to this? Don't think I've read that annual.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50518/965445-uncannyxmenannual07page152yo.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're referring to this? Don't think I've read that annual.

Yep, according to Iron Man She-Hulk was getting trashed. Though I don't think that was Stark, I think it was Rhodes.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/149643/3950607-2132790-019.jpg

http://www.theouthousers.com/images/templates/galleries/axis009_4.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111183975/4987157-5687725256-thing.jpg

That should seal it, Luke Cage wins this.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That should seal it, Luke Cage wins this. https://i2.wp.com/www.comicscanon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Money-Honey.jpg

Thing is the only one who's never really lost to Luke. If anything that proves how far above the other two he is. Anyone who can give a good fight to a Cagey guy like Luke stomps Rhino and Colossus at the same time

Bran.

Are you really surprised that nobody gives a f*ck about "Sweet Aunt Petunia's Favorite Nephew from Stinking Yancy Street"? http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon4.gif

I'm no Juden lover, but he's still better than Sheet Metal Man and the guy with fleshlight skin on his body

On a side note, are these three bricks the ones with the worst win-loss record ever?

Thing manhandles them both Thanos style.

And we have another Crack smoker.

Originally posted by Bentley
Thing manhandles them both Thanos style.


Thing almost going the distance and being brutally knocked out at the end is more likely.

That's the Heart Force.

You say that like Thing is fighting actual opponents here

When you are as terrible at winning as Ben Grimm, every fight is a fight for your life.

Colossus and Rhino may have terrible win loss records too, but they don't have the heart force. The heart force demands it's users to lose.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
When you are as terrible at winning as Ben Grimm, every fight is a fight for your life.

Colossus and Rhino may have terrible win loss records too, but they don't have the heart force. The heart force demands it's users to lose.



Quoted For Truth.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
When you are as terrible at winning as Ben Grimm, every fight is a fight for your life.

Colossus and Rhino may have terrible win loss records too, but they don't have the heart force. The heart force demands it's users to lose. The Heart Force only kicks in when Ben is facing someone ridiculously above him. The job force only kicks in for Rhinolossus when they fight someone ridiculously below them... or on their level, or above them.

Ben can't lose here. You'd have to rewrite Colossus into a German here for him to win

Originally posted by One Big Mob
The Heart Force only kicks in when Ben is facing someone ridiculously above him.

Like against Wrecker, King of the Jobbers, Kissed by Mungi (with tongue)?

You're losing it, bran.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hey, Rhino has feats like sending Nova (Rider) to the orbit or fighting Savage Hulk for days.

And he's been working out since then, has become more ruthless too.
Are you talking about the time when Rhino hit him and then by the time Rider got back Darkhawk had him KOd?

Thing beat Wrecker twice in F4 355 and in Thing Freakshow.

I can't remember him losing to a Mungi level character

Originally posted by darthgoober
Are you talking about the time when Rhino hit him and then by the time Rider got back Darkhawk had him KOd?

She-Hulk, actually.

1. https://i.imgur.com/4K6AjPl.jpg
2. https://i.imgur.com/3wocYqW.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She-Hulk, actually.

1. https://i.imgur.com/4K6AjPl.jpg
2. https://i.imgur.com/3wocYqW.jpg
That's funny, I thought it was Darkhawk for some reason

This is between Thing and Colossus. Rhino gets stuffed and mounted.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3691698-one+shot+ko.jpg

Plus Misty Knight koed him.

Steve has high herald level feet. Context matters.

Originally posted by Supermutant
This is between Thing and Colossus. Rhino gets stuffed and mounted.



Plus Misty Knight koed him.

Don't get smart. Post the whole fight

Steve three-shotted Savage Hulk, ffs. And made Pak's Hulk bleed with a single punch - even though he was still at WWH levels...

Originally posted by Supermutant
This is between Thing and Colossus. Rhino gets stuffed and mounted.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3691698-one+shot+ko.jpg

Plus Misty Knight koed him.
Hey, you don't use Cap as a low showing. That's goddamned commie thinking right there.

hey russian commies are in right now just ask Trump.

That was after a lengthy fight, Aleksei was already worn out and overheating.

And it's not like Colossus and Grimm weren't hurt by similar strikes.

Piotr's charge was stopped with a single kick by Storm, he also f*cking coughed:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/40042/4821298-fight+with+colossus+2.jpg

he is wearing bandages and not getting knocked out. lol Rhino has more low showings than those two combine. His latest lost wasn't even worth a panel in the recent deadpool.

Originally posted by Supermutant
he is wearing bandages and not getting knocked out. lol Rhino has more low showings than those two combine. His latest lost wasn't even worth a panel in the recent deadpool.

He had the Cyttorak energies stored in his body... powered down, but still Still found a way to go to sleep, btw. Iirc, a fall from the plane took him out, something that teenage Colossus was able to walk away from ease... same teenage Colossus that failed to even slow Rhino down

Yeah, Rhino's got plenty of bad showings. But he also has plenty of good ones... like the orbit feat, beating Fixit, fighting Savage for days, etc.

remember this battle, Rhino did okay before wussin out.

https://i.imgur.com/GD7jhnHh.jpg

I liked it when he gored Thor with that serpent tooth horn or whatever, he should have kept that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He had the Cyttorak energies stored in his body... powered down, but still Still found a way to go to sleep, btw. Iirc, a fall from the plane took him out, something that teenage Colossus was able to walk away from ease... same teenage Colossus that failed to even slow Rhino down

Yeah, Rhino's got plenty of bad showings. But he also has plenty of good ones... like the orbit feat, beating Fixit, fighting Savage for days, etc. Yea Colossus didn't like to use the Cyttorak power unless he had to. Clearly he wasn't using it then but that is a bit of a lowest of the low showings for Colossus.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That was after a lengthy fight, Aleksei was already worn out and overheating.

And it's not like Colossus and Grimm weren't hurt by similar strikes.

Piotr's charge was stopped with a single kick by Storm, he also f*cking coughed:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/40042/4821298-fight+with+colossus+2.jpg

How ****ing dare you post that travesty.

Originally posted by Supermutant
remember this battle, Rhino did okay before wussin out.

Sort of okay. Landed two blows. But yeah, he got props from Wolverine, who kinda thought of him as of a Roughouse-lv sparring partner.

Still better than Grimm, who lands a cheapshot on Logan only to get one-shotted in return...

Originally posted by Supermutant
I liked it when he gored Thor with that serpent tooth horn or whatever, he should have kept that.



Who knows, maybe he still has that horn stashed in his closet or something. We should ask Slott

His regular horn has pierced Fixit and hurt somewhat Savage Hulk.

Also managed to stab Depowerednaut, but as stated, he was likely operating above his normal power levels then. Mutated into a wererhino creature or whatever.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
The Heart Force only kicks in when Ben is facing someone ridiculously above him. The job force only kicks in for Rhinolossus when they fight someone ridiculously below them... or on their level, or above them.

Ben can't lose here. You'd have to rewrite Colossus into a German here for him to win

The heart force kicks in for every fight Ben loses against anyone. It's a force that saves face.

"Oh Ben got defeated by Daredevil! He is one of the best fighters in the world and we all know even a drunk fetus knows how to throw a punch better than Ben! He showed a lot of heart!"

"Oh Hulk ko'd Ben with a pinky! It's amazing that he didn't get disintegrated by Hulk breathing too hard, he showed a lot of heart!"

Anyone have scans of the Rhino/Thing fight from back in the day? I think it was in Thing's solo series from the 80's.

Don't have the full fight, but I'm guessing you mean this one?

http://i.imgur.com/GpepZQp.jpg

Yep.

Found this gem:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--1BcqhmrFw0/Tg5jAxPQ-hI/AAAAAAAATaQ/AkhxhmN9hyw/s1600/fantasy%2B13.JPG

Originally posted by Supermutant
remember this battle, Rhino did okay before wussin out.

https://i.imgur.com/GD7jhnHh.jpg

I liked it when he gored Thor with that serpent tooth horn or whatever, he should have kept that.

Who is the guy with the Apple top?

Power Man a.k.a. Erik Josten.

He got his ass handed to him, too.

What comic is this from? I want to think the only time Rhino and Little Jimmy Fought was back in the old Secret Wars, but that art screams early 90's.

Alpha Flight Special from 1992.

And they didn't fight in Secret Wars.

Ah Good Old 1992...Right before the EXTREME Era got started.

Good Times for Comics.

About the thing/rhino fight--neither really wanted to fight. Miracle Man hypnotized both of them but Thing came out of it shortly after Rhino rammed into Thing's bus. Plus Rhino didn't want to fight period as he was suppose to be getting help to remove the surgically attached Rhino skin and turn back human. So while Thing looked better and was in control, the Rhino was hypnotized for most of it and then he didn't want to fight.

https://imgur.com/a/9zgiynk

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Found this gem:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--1BcqhmrFw0/Tg5jAxPQ-hI/AAAAAAAATaQ/AkhxhmN9hyw/s1600/fantasy%2B13.JPG
Where is this from? I've seen this scan for years but don't know what issue it takes place in (it's not FF vs X-men the series). Can anyone tell me what issue this fight takes place in?

Thing is fighting a Skrull-Colossus there.

https://i.imgur.com/hW6PjYoh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/lr8G6xIh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/wHclMWkh.jpg

Originally posted by Supermutant
Thing is fighting a Skrull-Colossus there.

Thanks for that!

Originally posted by Supermutant
Thing is fighting a Skrull-Colossus there.

https://i.imgur.com/hW6PjYoh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/lr8G6xIh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/wHclMWkh.jpg Is there more to that? It seemed there was.

Yes all the X-men were skrulls in that issue for starters. But for this thread Thing never fought or even encountered the real Colossus there.

Wait, did a jew say someone was worse than a nazi on panel?

Originally posted by Bentley
Wait, did a jew say someone was worse than a nazi on panel? I bet they hate that one.

Though of course it makes sense. Half of the arseholes in comics are worse than anything in the real world. Yet if you put a Nazi in a comic, they are supposed to be the absolute worst.

Bryne snuck a fast one in there

Yeah, nazis would be lowtime villains compared with the sh_t that routinely goes down on comicdom. I'm kind of wondering what those Skrulls actually pulled off in that comic to afford the comparison though.

Originally posted by Bentley
Yeah, nazis would be lowtime villains compared with the sh_t that routinely goes down on comicdom. I'm kind of wondering what those Skrulls actually pulled off in that comic to afford the comparison though. Skrull stuff. The last time the F4 met the Skrulls though they aged Thing, Sue and Reed and Johnny had a little meltdown

The arc where Thing fought Colossuskrull was also the same arc where Gladiator did this:
https://pm1.narvii.com/6146/eb2f9c4f16ceae6dba1520d590e4be6305dd191f_hq.jpg


I heard Thor also had a dealing with a nova or rather a star recently, though I'm unsure of how that turned out

Originally posted by Bentley
Yeah, nazis would be lowtime villains compared with the sh_t that routinely goes down on comicdom. I'm kind of wondering what those Skrulls actually pulled off in that comic to afford the comparison though.

not sure i agree with that. MOST (certainly there are villains/enemies who can be said to have done worse) villains in comics tend to have some rationale for what they do and have never achieved the widespread evil the nazi party achieved. there really isn't a rationale for what the nazis did to the jews, and genocide is a big deal, even in comics (look at some of the truly evil events in x-books over the last 3 decades). factor in how many jewish deaths the nazis were responsible for (say 2 million to be very conservative) and there aren't many 'villains' out there who can equal the real world evil of the nazis.

A lot of what the nazis did was hyperbolized. A lot of the Juden died from starving to death from the bombings. And we don't even have ovens now on the levels of what were supposedly burning hoards of Juden to ashes. Same as the supposed gas chambers were sealed off by old school classroom doors... which is not the way you would want to stave off severely toxic gasses.

Not saying stuff of this nature didn't happen, but the extent of it seems highly dubious to say the least.


That being said I'd be interested to see big deal villians who you'd place above and below the Nazis assuming all the original stories are true (6 million).

Any villian you can add to the list actually. Skrulls, Thanos, Darkseid, Lex, etc

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure i agree with that. MOST (certainly there are villains/enemies who can be said to have done worse) villains in comics tend to have some rationale for what they do and have never achieved the widespread evil the nazi party achieved. there really isn't a rationale for what the nazis did to the jews, and genocide is a big deal, even in comics (look at some of the truly evil events in x-books over the last 3 decades). factor in how many jewish deaths the nazis were responsible for (say 2 million to be very conservative) and there aren't many 'villains' out there who can equal the real world evil of the nazis.



Great post. And much needed.

And let's be honest, villains in the superhero books often look like puppies in comparison. They rarely achieve their goals and do minimum damage if they do.

You even have the Juggernaut, the Kingpin, Doctor Octopus, Magneto and Victor von Doom crying together in front of the remains of World Trade Center. Magnus is even seen helping emergency services there.

the numbers can be fudged--i've seen some sources say that over the 4 years upwards of 20 million jews died from one thing or another as a result of the targeted nazi campaign. even if we say somewhat less than 2 million, that is....incomprehensible.

comic villains tend to be written in ways that often make them...likable. even the "most" evil. there of course is nothing mitigating or likable about the nazis. it would need to be villains who were responsible for the deaths of millions. i dunno. the ones you mentioned i guess want humanity enslaved or dead so...sure they would count. cosmic villains or other races seem less evil though for some reason. the nazis were distinctly human, so to view any villain as being THAT evil they would need to be human villains imo. red skull, obviously. joker? doesn't have the large scale impact though. i dunno. hard to compare any comic villain with something so horrifically real life.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Great post. And much needed.

And let's be honest, villains in the superhero books often look like puppies in comparison. They rarely achieve their goals and do minimum damage if they do.

You even have the Juggernaut, the Kingpin, Doctor Octopus, Magneto and Victor von Doom crying together in front of the remains of World Trade Center. Magnus is even seen helping emergency services there.



it's rare when a comic villain does anything TRULY horrific. most of the time feats and even character is mitigated (the world trade center is a very good example). and again, it's almost impossible to compare comics to real world for obvious reasons.

I'd imagine the lack of genocide is because most want to rule, rather than just wipe out everyone.

Though the 9/11 issue was ****ing weird, I thought.

Magneto giving a damn about humans dying in 9/11 was horrendously cringey.

Eichhorst was my favorite character in The Strain

Fighting at full potential Colossus takes this.

you're right of course--which is the same reason that "they were doing a job" is not a mitigating factor.

but you brought up a fair point. i was looking at the nazis and their achievements as a whole. i could focus on hitler as the (driving) architect i suppose. but you bring up thanos. again, not relatable. like bringing up mephisto. even the skrulls are a stretch for me. you said who do i view as being as evil as the nazis in the comic world. neither of those fit my eye, though skrulls more than thanos i guess. it would need to be someone human, as i said. even kletus is crazy/insane. it's another reason i hesitated to add joker. red skull is also the only villain i can recall off the top of my head holding a gun to a baby's head.... hard to get more evil.

honestly, i dunno. imo the list is pretty short. using the nazis as a whole, and finding a villain who is as evil, or more so? tough call, again, imo. /shrug

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Originally posted by Supermutant
Yes all the X-men were skrulls in that issue for starters. But for this thread Thing never fought or even encountered the real Colossus there. I realize that. It's been a few year since I saw that but I recall Thing saying that he was surprised that Skrull was so tough or some shit.

Originally posted by leonidas


it's rare when a comic villain does anything TRULY horrific. most of the time feats and even character is mitigated (the world trade center is a very good example). and again, it's almost impossible to compare comics to real world for obvious reasons.

Again, this argument is sort of "they suck at being evil" or "have stronger opposition" but many evil characters would do crazy stuff if left unimpeded. Extinction events routinely happen in comicdom that's the kind of stuff I was referring. I agree most villains appear to be random crooks, but that doesn't counterbalance the genocides that were barely avoided in a scale of who does greater evil. I mean, WW2 happened for several years, but individual attacks and events cannot compare with the Annihilation wave (for example). That kind of sh_t happens in comics every other year.

Kang is not mitigated, he has commited genocide on panel with permanent consequences. Same with Ultron. Same with Thanos etc.

Also, this;

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/125/992/944.jpg

Played for comedic effect, but this guy is wilfully ignoring the suffering of millions of people, and wants to mutate them irreversibly so that he can enslave them.

You say that as if it's irrational.

https://goo.gl/images/pyT1k6

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, this argument is sort of "they suck at being evil" or "have stronger opposition" but many evil characters would do crazy stuff if left unimpeded. Extinction events routinely happen in comicdom that's the kind of stuff I was referring. I agree most villains appear to be random crooks, but that doesn't counterbalance the genocides that were barely avoided in a scale of who does greater evil. I mean, WW2 happened for several years, but individual attacks and events cannot compare with the Annihilation wave (for example). That kind of sh_t happens in comics every other year.

Kang is not mitigated, he has commited genocide on panel with permanent consequences. Same with Ultron. Same with Thanos etc.

kang is a better example--since he's human. ultron? thanos? mephisto? darkseid? not human so have different standards imo.

as for the sauron scan--i don't consider that 'evil' in the sense you're saying ds, ONLY because if sauron has the tech to do it, how many other characters in comics could do the same? how many people could thor/ss heal if they used their power to the fullest? i see the "cancer issue" as being one that is simply irreconcilable in a comic setting. given the tech/magic in play, ALL suffering should likely be curable in a comic setting--ss alone could likely rewrite the genetic code of the planet. imagine if he and thor teamed up and ss used the hammer to amp his ability? or strange teamed with either one? i just see that situation as different. i agree though--as purely evil characters go, sauron is pretty high on the list.

Originally posted by leonidas
how many other characters in comics could do the same?

T'Challa already HAS the cure for cancer and he's refusing to share it with the world. Just because Wakanda fears it might get weaponized or some shit.

And neither Panther nor his people are the smartest inhabitants of Marvel Earth.

yeah, that's a perfect example.

But that's the thing. Not only CAN he do it (like T'Challa or whatever) - he knows he can, and actively wants to mutate and then enslave people.

At least BP fears weaponisation or whatever weak excuse the writers tried to think of when they wrote themselves into a corner.

It's like seeing a kid drop their ice cream and cry...and not only do you have the means to buy them another ice cream, you get them addicted to crack and then enslave them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
the writers

Aaand you're going back to being a Junior Member.

No plural form needed.

Reginald Hudlin is to blame.

How did a thread about three of the most basic ass bricks out there turn into this terrible discussion about extents of evil?

I have no idea, it seems like you have a rare talent for making threads, CC.

shrug blame bran?

i resent the terrible discussion part though. it was...passably deep by kmc standards i thought, but yeah, def off-topic. consider the case closed.

Best threads happen to be filled with off-topic.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I have no idea, it seems like you have a rare talent for making threads, CC. Heck of a thread CC

you are the devil.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
T'Challa already HAS the cure for cancer and he's refusing to share it with the world. Just because Wakanda fears it might get weaponized or some shit.

And neither Panther nor his people are the smartest inhabitants of Marvel Earth. Osborn did it too

What does an American (Rhino), a Juden (Thing), and a Russian (Colossus) have in common? That's right, Germany. CC knew what he was doing.

Aren't you a teacher Leon? You have to teach these kids to open their eyes and realize that potentially all conversations can be about Nazis. Are you teaching kids about storms and lightning bolts and not letting them see the signs about The SS and the Stormtroopers?

Will you speak about your breakfast of waffles and tell little Timmy Freethinking Heinrich that no, you're not actually speaking about The Luftwaffe and that he's off topic and offensive, or will you let him being able to see for the first time without sunglasses?

Let those kids breath Leon. Let them atme an der frischen luft.

Look man, all I'm saying is those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Without this conversation and without the schooling, you could be indirectly responsible for creating a Hitler army, where every soldier was the next generation of Hitler. Stow your class about waffles and storms every now and then and let these kids in on the real teaching lesson. Nazis

I'm glad CC created this thread about Nazis to remind us all here at this failing nation of KMC. We could really use a superpower to come in and take over.

That's all.

you should really consider another name change. nietzsche swift? branzsche? one big nietzsche? something.

I can't change my name. We've all been razzle dazzled

I thought the Hitler/Goebbels paraphrase in my sig was enough though. srug

didn't know that. lol and it's a start.

You didn't know that Raz left us more than 2 years ago?

i didn't know he couldn't change names.

Ah, yeah. Because that would require exploring KMC outside of CBvF, a nigh impossible task.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f13/t307525.html

Former kmc mods will start turning up dead in a few years.

Bada will be the last hold out against the returning scourge of Raz.

Oh, shit.

Can globals even make new mods? Like, who promoted Newjak?

lol i was a regular in the gdf a couple years back but there are some REAL freaks in that thing.

Yeah, I know. Staying away from it. It's a real shithole with an incredible ban rate.

I enjoy bagpipe music. Hope I'm not the only one.

Which of these three has the most appreciation for bagpipes you think?

CC please don't derail the thread

As a teen Colossus was strong enough to get a win over Thing in a armwrestling match.


http://i.imgur.com/UIDStJ9.png

Way to misread that scan

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Way to misread that scan Nothing I said was untrue.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
As a teen Colossus was strong enough to get a win over Thing in a armwrestling match.


http://i.imgur.com/UIDStJ9.png Is that actually supposed to be proof?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Is that actually supposed to be proof? Teen Colossus got a win over Thing.

http://i.imgur.com/7dg4zvu.png

Rhino is a beast:

https://i.imgur.com/2z3rSDI.jpg

Look at poor Colossus hanging on to Rhino for dear life

Or raping his arm. I can't tell.

Rhino > Spider-Man + Invisible Woman + Colossus (+ maybe even Mr. Fantastic + Human Torch)